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Title: Latest Java Runtime Environment - Jre 21.0.0 x64 silent installer <--°>
Post by: scarface on March 08, 2013, 10:00 PM
Jre 21.0.0 x64
Link : Jre (https://mega.nz/file/8cEiBQSS#zE3aSFfIXXDNOH6pyIHViGsgI660QSjI_I4Vo7MfgCw)

This is a silent installer.
Only x64 version is installed.
For windows 8.1/10/11 x64, not compatible with windows xp and 7.

(https://i.ibb.co/YkX64Cg/images.png)
Title: Re: Jre 7 update 17 x86-x64 silent installer
Post by: humbert on March 11, 2013, 02:27 AM
When a newer copy of Java comes up, what I do is go to the java web site and click around a little until I see both the 32bit and 64bit runtime environments (usually jre*). I know I could do with only the 32bit version which is the one Firefox uses, but I'm just picky.
Title: Re: Jre 7 update 51 x86-x64 silent installer
Post by: humbert on January 18, 2014, 04:29 AM
When I replaced Firefox with Waterfox, I didn't install Java at all. Firefox's configuration kept saying it was unsafe and disabled it by default. With all the web sites I've visited in the past few months, I've yet to encounter one that insists on Java to run something. I'm thinking Oracle's test site is the only one around.

Bottom line: don't even bother with Java
Title: Re: Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer
Post by: humbert on April 11, 2014, 04:16 AM
Last time I had Java on my system, Firefox disables it by default deeming it unsafe. It's been quite a while since I've run into a site that uses Java. The most recent is http://broadband.mpi-sws.org/transparency/bttest.php (http://broadband.mpi-sws.org/transparency/bttest.php) -- it's a good site, it tells you if your ISP is throttling or interfering with torrents. As I see it, for just one site installing Java is just not worth it.
Title: Re: Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer
Post by: scarface on April 11, 2014, 10:12 PM
To humbert: I tested this version and Firefox also disabled it (v28.0). If you have time perhaps you can find which registry key is changed or what to do to enable it automatically. I can insert that in my installer.
Java is not mandatory as you say except when you want to display a graphic or something which has contents requiring java.
For example the following graphic needed java to be displayed:
(https://image.ibb.co/fWfn0q/35773455ey.jpg)
I didnt choose this graphic randomly and I'm going to explain it to you.
This is the exchange of the Eur/Yen.
in August 2012 for 1Euro you had 95 Yen.
Now for 1Euro you have 141 Yen.
So there has been a big devaluation of the yen (losing in 1 year about 40% of its value) and it is due to the japan government printing a lot of money, because Japan is an ageing, ruined, terribly indebted country, and it needs to import a lot of commodities, like oil to produce electricity, since most nuclear plants have been shut down after the accident of Fukushima. And it's interesting to see that the US are following the same way by printing tons of dollars, not in the same proportion  that Japan though, but the dollar is being devalued anyway, impoverishing the vast majority of the population which is not very rich and which can't buy real assets like gold, lands, or even stocks...to be protected against the loss of value of the money.
I hope You have understood until now...
When There Is a devaluation, There Is an increase in the price of every asset, like food, commodities (for example the japanese are paying their oil 70% more in yen, as it Is priced in $). Its also true for Financial stocks. And if we look at the Nikkei, it Just soared from 8500 before the printing of money to 14000 now. If we "reprocess" the 14000 in a not devalued yen, we have to remove 40% to the index and then we are Just above 8500. So a well avised investor who has bought japanese shares, if these ones have followed, in average the Nikkei, didnt lose money, he's even more rich, in devalued yen. But for the huge majority of people who dont invest in anything There Is a big loss, their purchasing power Is weakened. And its the same thing with the current bubble at wall Street. A few bankers are making money while the population Is impoverished, all That with the assent of central bankers like Ben Bernanke  who dont want to take strong measures to reimburse an enormous debt and prefer to keep the economy afloat a few more weeks or months.
Title: Re: Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer
Post by: iih on April 13, 2014, 12:08 PM
Quote from: scarface on March 08, 2013, 10:00 PM
http://tinyurl.com/cco4ky6
Jre 8.0
both version x86 x64 are installed.
For windows7/8 x86/x64.
I got failed through auto java updates, i remember you've update Java silent installer,
tried to download. wow your link is very fast average 800KB/s.
After installed, now back to normal state with java auto updates, Thanks alot.

(https://i.ibb.co/8DXYqxZ/java-scarface.png)
Title: Re: Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer
Post by: humbert on April 15, 2014, 06:40 AM
Do you visit enough Java-based web sites that it becomes necessary to install it? I'd love, for example, not to have to install Flash, but unfortunately too many web sites use it, and I don't mean Youtube. They have HTML5 available with which you can skip Flash, but sadly that's the not case with so many others.
Title: Re: Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer
Post by: scarface on May 01, 2014, 12:12 AM
To humbert: probably not, but I dont see why I wouldnt install it. Now I use essentially my phone to browse websites, And there is no java, nor flash available for win8, for me no flash is often disabling.
some updates are out but I Will update jre8 when major updates are released.
Title: Re: Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer
Post by: humbert on May 01, 2014, 03:34 AM
Quote from: scarface on May 01, 2014, 12:12 AM
To humbert: probably not, but I dont see why I wouldnt install it. Now I use essentially my phone to browse websites, And there is no java, nor flash available for win8, for me no flash is often disabling.
some updates are out but I Will update jre8 when major updates are released.

I use plugins only if I feel I need them. In my case I've only run into 1 Java-using site in the past year or more. Not only that, but Firefox disables Java by default and says it's unsafe. I don't like flash any more than you do, but unlike Java, many sites use it. For example, if 100% of all videos I look at were from Youtube, I'd remove Flash and just use the much safer HTML5.
Title: Re: Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer
Post by: humbert on March 06, 2015, 03:59 AM
How many of you guys have Java installed anyway?
Title: Re: Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer
Post by: Vasudev on March 08, 2015, 07:56 AM
Count me in. For full functionality of libreoffice you need java.
Title: Re: Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer
Post by: humbert on March 09, 2015, 02:38 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on March 08, 2015, 07:56 AM
Count me in. For full functionality of libreoffice you need java.

Really? When I installed it on a computer it did not ask for Java nor did I receive any warning anywhere that Java was necessary. Be that as it may, is this your only use for Java?
Title: Re: Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer
Post by: humbert on March 09, 2015, 07:44 PM
Quote from: Fuj on March 09, 2015, 05:10 AM
Another one of your eternal questions. :) It is true that in practice you can do without JRE. Only a very small percentage of web sites actually use Java on the client side. If you use desktop apps written in Java then you need it, of course. There aren't many, relatively speaking. FrostWire springs to mind, I know it's Java based. Minecraft too.

You are the only one here who answers my eternal questions and satisfies my curiosity totally. Thanks :)

I used to use a pre-torrent file sharing app called Limewire that wouldn't work unless Java was installed.
Title: Re: Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer
Post by: scarface on April 15, 2015, 04:49 AM
updated.
Title: Re: Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer
Post by: humbert on April 16, 2015, 05:40 AM
Quote from: scarface on April 15, 2015, 04:49 AM
updated.

are you iih 2.0 :) ?
Title: Re: Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer
Post by: Vasudev on April 30, 2015, 10:01 AM
BTW, where is iih?
Title: Re: Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer
Post by: humbert on May 01, 2015, 07:17 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on April 30, 2015, 10:01 AM
BTW, where is iih?

Well, I heard on the news in Indonesia some people had been executed. Maybe they got him confused with those guys. :)
Title: Re: Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer
Post by: Vasudev on May 01, 2015, 10:00 AM
Quote from: usmangujjar on May 01, 2015, 08:36 AM
IIH is not here now, he will be here. I know he is fine.
We are discussing in his created updates threads, humbert many times said him about updates, but never taken too strict action, its nice part of his moderation.
usman I've deleted some posts of iih's updated bots and i've only deleted his older "updated" posts.
Title: Re: Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer
Post by: Shadow.97 on May 01, 2015, 03:44 PM
Quote from: humbert on March 06, 2015, 03:59 AM
How many of you guys have Java installed anyway?
I do! It's required by silly programs and silly games.
Title: Re: Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer
Post by: scarface on July 15, 2015, 10:07 PM
updated to u51.

Quoteare you iih 2.0 :) ?
btw I'm not iih 2.0... I would have deleted the message if humbert had not quoted the "updated".
I'm not taking the responsibility to delete them though. if the administrator and usman are allowing me, I will.
Title: Re: Latest Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer
Post by: humbert on July 17, 2015, 03:53 AM
Do you visit many sites that use Java? I haven't run into one in ages, nor do I run any apps that require Java to be installed. This contrasts sharply with flash. As much as I may hate flash, it's everywhere and many sites will not work without it. Only on Youtube do you not need flash, and even then you have to have the "Youtube All HTML5" addon installed.
Title: Re: Latest Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer
Post by: Vasudev on July 17, 2015, 09:03 AM
Quote from: humbert on July 17, 2015, 03:53 AM
Do you visit many sites that use Java? I haven't run into one in ages, nor do I run any apps that require Java to be installed. This contrasts sharply with flash. As much as I may hate flash, it's everywhere and many sites will not work without it. Only on Youtube do you not need flash, and even then you have to have the "Youtube All HTML5" addon installed.
Humbert and others: Did anyone notice change in name of this thread?
Title: Re: Latest Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer - <--°>
Post by: scarface on July 18, 2015, 06:14 PM
QuoteHumbert and others: Did anyone notice change in name of this thread?

Yes...it seems humbert you edited the first message of the topic...

Btw, I sent a message to a few users on the forum, like Ahmad, DAWxp32, Commander Rylak, aa1234779, usmangujjar, vasudev, harkaz and maher. It's just a little gift, a link for a mod of win7. Hoping some of them will be back one day.
Title: Re: Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer
Post by: Yoda on July 19, 2015, 08:19 AM
Quote from: humbert on March 06, 2015, 03:59 AM
How many of you guys have Java installed anyway?
I m using both 32bit and 64bit versions for my Windows 7x64.
Title: Re: Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer
Post by: humbert on July 20, 2015, 03:45 AM
Quote from: Yoda on July 19, 2015, 08:19 AM
I m using both 32bit and 64bit versions for my Windows 7x64.

Why? Do you run into too many sites that use Java? Or is it that you're running Java-based apps? Also, why both 32bit and 64bit versions?


Title: Re: Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer
Post by: Vasudev on July 20, 2015, 11:34 AM
Quote from: humbert on July 20, 2015, 03:45 AM
Quote from: Yoda on July 19, 2015, 08:19 AM
I m using both 32bit and 64bit versions for my Windows 7x64.

Why? Do you run into too many sites that use Java? Or is it that you're running Java-based apps? Also, why both 32bit and 64bit versions?
Humb: Did you try speedtest's ping test, it incorporates java for testing the latency.
Title: Re: Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer
Post by: humbert on July 21, 2015, 01:17 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on July 20, 2015, 11:34 AM
Humb: Did you try speedtest's ping test, it incorporates java for testing the latency.

That links you to pingtest.net. Java is only required for determining packet loss. Ping and jitter don't need it. The only other interesting Java site would probably be http://broadband.mpi-sws.org/transparency/bttest.php (http://broadband.mpi-sws.org/transparency/bttest.php). This tells you if your ISP is throttling torrents. For me installing Java for just these 2 sites is not worth the effort.

I accidentally found a site called http://www.bandwidthplace.com/ (http://www.bandwidthplace.com/). This thing tests ping and speed using HTML5. I just ran a test -- ping and upload speed were on target, but download speed was notoriously off the mark.

Title: Re: Latest Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer <--°>
Post by: Yoda on July 21, 2015, 02:59 PM
I have Windows 7 x64 but using Firefox (32bit) so I think I should have both 32bit and 64 bit java...


By the way... I am using ookla speed test.
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/4520545760.png) (http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4520545760)
(My stats :) )
Title: Re: Latest Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer <--°>
Post by: humbert on July 22, 2015, 03:18 AM
Quote from: Yoda on July 21, 2015, 02:59 PM
I have Windows 7 x64 but using Firefox (32bit) so I think I should have both 32bit and 64 bit java...

If Java is being used as a Firefox plugin, then the 32bit version is enough. Are you running a Java based 64bit app?

You're in Greece?
Title: Re: Latest Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer <--°>
Post by: Yoda on July 22, 2015, 10:42 AM
Quote from: humbert on July 22, 2015, 03:18 AM
Quote from: Yoda on July 21, 2015, 02:59 PM
I have Windows 7 x64 but using Firefox (32bit) so I think I should have both 32bit and 64 bit java...

If Java is being used as a Firefox plugin, then the 32bit version is enough. Are you running a Java based 64bit app?

You're in Greece?

Thanks for that advice, and yes... I am in Greece  :)
(But... right now is a bad time to be in Greece my friends  :'( )
Title: Re: Latest Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer <--°>
Post by: Yoda on July 23, 2015, 01:56 PM
Because of this conversation I decided to give a try to Waterfox.
Perhaps I should use Waterfox instead of Firefox, and keep Java 64bit version only...

By the way, sorry for the off-topic but is Waterfox really faster than Firefox?
Is it worth trying?
Title: Re: Latest Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer <--°>
Post by: humbert on July 24, 2015, 03:28 AM
Quote from: Yoda on July 23, 2015, 01:56 PM
By the way, sorry for the off-topic but is Waterfox really faster than Firefox?
Is it worth trying?

Absolutely YES! I've been running it for several months and it works like a champ. I have almost 50 Firefox plugins running on Waterfox and they run seamlessly. It's very fast and highly dependable. Fuj explained this is because they write it specifically for Windows, whereas regular Firefox is mostly for Linux and ported to Windows. Details are available at their web site.
Title: Re: Latest Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer <--°>
Post by: Yoda on July 24, 2015, 11:38 AM
Quote from: humbert on July 24, 2015, 03:28 AM
Absolutely YES!
I replaced Firefox with Waterfox to my 64 bit machines and everything is fine.
All plugins are working with no problem.

- Today I will remove the 32bit java from all 64bit machines.

For the story:
I have 3 machines with Win 7x64 (Waterfox now)
and 2 machines with Win7x32 (keep Firefox)

Thanks for the advices guys...
Title: Re: Latest Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer <--°>
Post by: humbert on July 26, 2015, 04:30 AM
Quote from: Yoda on July 24, 2015, 11:38 AM
I replaced Firefox with Waterfox to my 64 bit machines and everything is fine.
All plugins are working with no problem.

Excellent choice! I don't know about Java but on Flash, the same one that's available everywhere works seamlessly with Waterfox. No need to chase down a 64bit version. Incidentally I opened a tab to their web site and found out it has upgraded to 39.
Title: Re: Latest Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer <--°>
Post by: humbert on February 16, 2016, 03:30 AM
What sites do you visit and/or what programs do you run that require Java to be installed? Also, how safe it Java?
Title: Re: Latest Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer <--°>
Post by: Vasudev on February 16, 2016, 08:11 AM
Quote from: humbert on February 16, 2016, 03:30 AM
What sites do you visit and/or what programs do you run that require Java to be installed? Also, how safe it Java?
Its just installed for checking ping on speetest.net and for libreoffice.
Title: Re: Latest Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer <--°>
Post by: humbert on February 19, 2016, 03:32 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on February 16, 2016, 08:11 AM
Quote from: humbert on February 16, 2016, 03:30 AM
What sites do you visit and/or what programs do you run that require Java to be installed? Also, how safe it Java?
Its just installed for checking ping on speetest.net and for libreoffice.

Doesn't speedtest.net use Flash? I had no idea Libreoffice needed Java. I installed it once and it didn't ask for Java.
Title: Re: Latest Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer <--°>
Post by: Vasudev on February 21, 2016, 11:39 AM
Quote from: humbert on February 19, 2016, 03:32 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on February 16, 2016, 08:11 AM
Quote from: humbert on February 16, 2016, 03:30 AM
What sites do you visit and/or what programs do you run that require Java to be installed? Also, how safe it Java?
Its just installed for checking ping on speetest.net and for libreoffice.

Doesn't speedtest.net use Flash? I had no idea Libreoffice needed Java. I installed it once and it didn't ask for Java.
For testing pings java is used.
Title: Re: Latest Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer <--°>
Post by: humbert on February 22, 2016, 03:43 AM
For you Java lovers, here's a nice little article I found on Webuser magazine.

(https://i.ibb.co/yFZk2jF/833703java.png)
Title: Re: Latest Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer <--°>
Post by: Vasudev on February 22, 2016, 05:25 PM
Usually JRE is set to activate on my permission on firefox and also set to very high security options in JRE. LO needs jre for some functions to work. I hope JRE to disappear soon, better late than never.
Title: Re: Latest Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer <--°>
Post by: humbert on July 23, 2016, 04:55 AM
Why exactly do you guys need Java?

Flash I can understand. Despite the security risk there are trillions of sites out there that still use it. As much we may hate it, Flash is a necesity. Not so with Java. Rarely do I ever run into a Java-based site.

Are there still any important (i.e., no better alternative) PC programs that require Java? Last one I remember was Limewire. I used that many years ago.
Title: Re: Latest Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer <--°>
Post by: Vasudev on August 01, 2016, 05:39 PM
Quote from: humbert on July 23, 2016, 04:55 AM
Why exactly do you guys need Java?

Flash I can understand. Despite the security risk there are trillions of sites out there that still use it. As much we may hate it, Flash is a necesity. Not so with Java. Rarely do I ever run into a Java-based site.

Are there still any important (i.e., no better alternative) PC programs that require Java? Last one I remember was Limewire. I used that many years ago.
Damn! I hate Java and as of now, I uninstalled Java but recently I want the damn thing because of dependency for LaTeXDraw. Has anyone used any other vector drawing programs for LaTeX apart from Xfig?
Title: Re: Latest Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer <--°>
Post by: humbert on August 08, 2016, 04:00 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on August 01, 2016, 05:39 PM
Damn! I hate Java and as of now, I uninstalled Java but recently I want the damn thing because of dependency for LaTeXDraw. Has anyone used any other vector drawing programs for LaTeX apart from Xfig?

Must you use LaTex for your studies or your job? Is there no alternative?
Title: Re: Latest Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer <--°>
Post by: Vasudev on August 08, 2016, 06:11 PM
Quote from: humbert on August 08, 2016, 04:00 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on August 01, 2016, 05:39 PM
Damn! I hate Java and as of now, I uninstalled Java but recently I want the damn thing because of dependency for LaTeXDraw. Has anyone used any other vector drawing programs for LaTeX apart from Xfig?

Must you use LaTex for your studies or your job? Is there no alternative?
Actually its for my thesis/project, not that MSO is disallowed, but our dept. made it mandatory to submit thesis. They said its easy to keep track of page nos., table of contents and citations.
Actually I found an alternative for xfig called Dia.
I'm going a little off-topic, did anyone notice UWP apps problems after upgrading from TH2 to Redstone? As of now, Win Store isn't working it used to work but it a'int workin' now. Should I perform a Hard Reset just like do on WP after upgrading to new Build.
Title: Re: Latest Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer <--°>
Post by: humbert on October 25, 2016, 05:10 AM
Quote from: scarface on October 21, 2016, 01:18 AM
updated to jre8 u112.

Why are you still using Java? Is there an important Java-based site in your bookmarks, or are you like Vasudev who is stuck with a program that relies on it?
Title: Re: Latest Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer <--°>
Post by: scarface on October 30, 2016, 11:14 PM
You already asked me the same question a few years ago. It seems you don't really like Java. Yes there are still websites using java, on this one you won't be able to display graphics without jre for example: http://www.boursorama.com/bourse/cours/graphiques/historique.phtml?&symbole=GG&applet=1
And sometimes you can stumble upon some apps that still needs it. They are not numerous, I admit it.
Title: Re: Latest Java Runtime Environment - Jre 8.0 x86-x64 silent installer <--°>
Post by: humbert on November 01, 2016, 04:24 AM
It's not a matter of not liking Java. It the fact that not that many sites are using it and very few programs that need it. In fact, what I'm seeing is less and less use of Java as the days go by. I don't like Flash either, but unlike Java, with Flash I have no choice but to install it. Too many sites out there use it for videos and games. Even so, Flash's days are also numbered. For example, pornhub.com (http://pornhub.com) upgraded to HTML5. Check them out. Surely I'm not the only pervert on this site. :)
Title: Re: Latest Java Runtime Environment - Jre 14 x64 silent installer <--°>
Post by: scarface on April 18, 2020, 12:33 AM
Updated to Jre 16.

You need to use Firefox 52 ESR to keep using it.


(https://i.ibb.co/PrdVx9C/c82-java-logo.png)