Maher's Digital World

Computing => Microsoft Windows => Topic started by: Vasudev on December 13, 2014, 05:11 PM

Poll
Question: Which method was preferred while installing Windows 10?
Option 1: Clean Install votes: 26
Option 2: In-Place Upgrade votes: 2
Option 3: Sticking to Current OS votes: 2
Option 4: Ditched Win 10 because of telemetry votes: 3
Title: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on December 13, 2014, 05:11 PM
Windows 10 will be released in late 2015 so I decided to create topic on Windows 10 as majority of users will be switching to new OS from 8.x. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on December 14, 2014, 09:07 AM
gujjar-> If  you're able to install win 7 or win 8  then you're good to go. I guess 2gb ram isn't enough.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Daniil on December 23, 2014, 08:39 AM
Maybe on winter holidays I'll format my test machine and install Win10 there. :)
I thought, Intel Pentium D 945 with 4 gigs of RAM and NVidia GF 210 would be enough for it.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Daniil on December 23, 2014, 08:43 AM
Of course I will, comrade! :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on December 23, 2014, 07:00 PM
I haven't tested the OS myself, but from what I've been reading in magazines, the testers love it. Still, it's a bit too early to jump on the W10 bandwagon, let's wait a few more months.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on December 23, 2014, 09:46 PM
Quote from: Daniil on December 23, 2014, 08:39 AM
Maybe on winter holidays I'll format my test machine and install Win10 there. :)
I thought, Intel Pentium D 945 with 4 gigs of RAM and NVidia GF 210 would be enough for it.

I believe you said once that you managed to get your system running with 2 NVidia cards using SLI. Please tell me this:

1) To get the cards to run that way, is it a simple matter of connecting the SLI bridge, or is there more to it than that?

2) I know both cards must be NVidia, but do they have to be the same model? For example, can you pair 1 GTX-760 with a GTX-660, or must they both be the same?

3) If all you have is 1 monitor, do you just connect it to either card or what?

I ask because I'm thinking of adding another card and run it in SLI with my current GTX-660
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: xiaofei12 on December 24, 2014, 11:29 AM
i am not FIFA Coins (http://www.teragoldeu.com/) able to install Windows 8.1, but some days ago i tested the technical preview of Windows 10, it does'nt fit to my super old PC. but i hope it will be more better than any previous version.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on December 24, 2014, 04:39 PM
Quote from: humbert on December 23, 2014, 09:46 PM
Quote from: Daniil on December 23, 2014, 08:39 AM
Maybe on winter holidays I'll format my test machine and install Win10 there. :)
I thought, Intel Pentium D 945 with 4 gigs of RAM and NVidia GF 210 would be enough for it.

I believe you said once that you managed to get your system running with 2 NVidia cards using SLI. Please tell me this:

1) To get the cards to run that way, is it a simple matter of connecting the SLI bridge, or is there more to it than that?

2) I know both cards must be NVidia, but do they have to be the same model? For example, can you pair 1 GTX-760 with a GTX-660, or must they both be the same?

3) If all you have is 1 monitor, do you just connect it to either card or what?

I ask because I'm thinking of adding another card and run it in SLI with my current GTX-660
By pairing gtx 760 with 660, 760 will be forced to run at speeds of 660 which defeats ur overall  purpose of buying a new gpu.
Try pairing your monster cpu with another monster gpu probably r9 390x which will be arriving in Q1'15.
you could buy r9 285 or r9 290x, both come with bridge-less crossfire capability,mantle and many more.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on December 24, 2014, 04:40 PM
Merry Christmas everyone  :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Daniil on December 24, 2014, 05:24 PM
Quote from: Vasudev on December 24, 2014, 04:39 PM
By pairing gtx 760 with 660, 760 will be forced to run at speeds of 660 which defeats ur overall  purpose of buying a new gpu.
Try pairing your monster cpu with another monster gpu probably r9 390x which will be arriving in Q1'15.
you could buy r9 285 or r9 290x, both come with bridge-less crossfire capability,mantle and many more.
You're wrong, comrade. 760 + 660 will not work at true SLI. Also, SLI can work without SLI bridge.
I'm working hard now, later I'll add a complex manual about SLI.

Merry Christmas, кomяades!
(http://www.basenji-salonga.ru/images/forums/roghdestvo.gif) (http://www.basenji-salonga.ru/images/forums/roghdestvo.gif)
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: cha on December 24, 2014, 05:43 PM
Quote from: Vasudev on December 24, 2014, 04:40 PM
Merry Christmas everyone  :)
Merry Xmas to you and all Christian.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on December 24, 2014, 06:30 PM
Quote from: Daniil on December 24, 2014, 05:24 PM
Quote from: Vasudev on December 24, 2014, 04:39 PM
By pairing gtx 760 with 660, 760 will be forced to run at speeds of 660 which defeats ur overall  purpose of buying a new gpu.
Try pairing your monster cpu with another monster gpu probably r9 390x which will be arriving in Q1'15.
you could buy r9 285 or r9 290x, both come with bridge-less crossfire capability,mantle and many more.
You're wrong, comrade. 760 + 660 will not work at true SLI. Also, SLI can work without SLI bridge.
I'm working hard now, later I'll add a complex manual about SLI.

Merry Christmas, кomяades!
(http://www.basenji-salonga.ru/images/forums/roghdestvo.gif) (http://www.basenji-salonga.ru/images/forums/roghdestvo.gif)
Thanks comrade,  I didn't know SLI can work w/o bridges because I owned only amd cards.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: scarface on December 24, 2014, 08:17 PM
In fact gujjar has been tricked, but I'm not sure all those spams are due to bots. Someone wants to play with us.
xiaofei12 repeated what gujjar and me have said in old messages because someone wants to take the piss out of us. The forum has grown and it makes somebody jealous and angry. I suspect somebody who has already been warned a long time ago by the moderators. This man called jastreb is now back and oddly enough we are invaded by bots. Well, that's just an assumption. Let's hope somebody will remove the useless messages and fake users created lately.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Daniil on December 24, 2014, 09:12 PM
Quote from: scarface on December 24, 2014, 08:17 PM
In fact gujjar has been tricked, but I'm not sure all those spams are due to bots. Someone wants to play with us.
xiaofei12 repeated what gujjar and me have said in old messages because someone wants to take the piss out of us. The forum has grown and it makes somebody jealous and angry. I suspect somebody who has already been warned a long time ago by the moderators. This man called jastreb is now back and oddly enough we are invaded by bots. Well, that's just an assumption. Let's hope somebody will remove the useless messages and fake users created lately.
@scarface: What was matter with Jastreb? As for me, he looks maybe a bit impulsive, but quite normal in other things guy. Am I miss something?
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: fayyaz syed on January 20, 2015, 05:43 PM
Windows 10 is easily downloaded from Microsoft Insider program.
Installation very smooth.
works fine. windows 7 and 8.1 users will find it friendly.
it is combination of windows 7 & 8.1
only problem is booting'
sometimes it stuck at start up
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on January 21, 2015, 06:21 AM
@Fuj, et.al. - On several occasions I told Maher if he doesn't have the time to clean house, then to raise my priveleges to administrator so I could take care of these issues. He didn't exactly say no, all he said was he'd take care of it. I guess he must have his reasons, frankly I'm afraid to ask. In the mean time I'll continue deleting bot topic and post, which is all I can do.

@Daniil - You can run SLI without the SLI connector? If so then what's the connector for?

@Fayyaz - is it possible to install Windows 10 over Window 8 or 7? This inability is one of the scourges in trying to upgrade from XP to W7 or W8. Maybe MS found a solution.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: shhnedo on January 21, 2015, 08:41 PM
Quote from: humbert on January 21, 2015, 06:21 AM
@Fayyaz - is it possible to install Windows 10 over Window 8 or 7? This inability is one of the scourges in trying to upgrade from XP to W7 or W8. Maybe MS found a solution.

http://www.techpowerup.com/209111/windows-10-to-be-free-upgrade-for-windows-8-1-and-windows-7-users.html
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on January 22, 2015, 04:14 AM
Yes, that's right. My post was prior to MS's statement concerning Windows 10. A bunch of other stuff was announced too, such as Cortana being included. Would any of you guys use Cortana? I for one hate talking to the computer, especially if you're in a place where the walls have ears. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on January 22, 2015, 01:54 PM
No I don't like speaking to computer. I'd love wearing a head gear with thunderbolt 3.0 that directly interface with the brain. ;)
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on January 23, 2015, 04:33 PM
Quote from: usmangujjar on January 23, 2015, 03:06 PM
Win10 is not released yet, you tried beta version of it. It is just for testing purpose, not for our routine usage. And may be your harware configuration, which is causing problems.
Usman-> I didn't even try win 10 because its alpha version & beta will out now in jan. What H/w problems are you referring to?
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Shadow.97 on January 31, 2015, 03:20 AM
I've been using this for quite some time on my laptop. I like it a lot, I can't install further updates due to an error. Only crash I've seen is when my computer has been in sleeping mode for a long period of time and I try to start it again
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on January 31, 2015, 03:55 AM
Quote from: Shadow.97 on January 31, 2015, 03:20 AM
I've been using this for quite some time on my laptop. I like it a lot, I can't install further updates due to an error. Only crash I've seen is when my computer has been in sleeping mode for a long period of time and I try to start it again

Before anything else let me be the first one to welcome you back. You're a valuable member of our little family and an asset to the forum.

As for the downloadable copy of Windows 10 you mentioned, can you simply download it from MS and install it over the current Windows 7 or 8.1 installation? I know MS is going to offer this as a free upgrade, but even so I'm not sure if a fresh install is the best way to go. What did you do?

I think before I put it in I'll wait until they iron out most of the bugs. They'll never get all of them, but as I see it the more they get, the better.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Shadow.97 on January 31, 2015, 04:39 AM
Quote from: humbert on January 31, 2015, 03:55 AM
Quote from: Shadow.97 on January 31, 2015, 03:20 AM
I've been using this for quite some time on my laptop. I like it a lot, I can't install further updates due to an error. Only crash I've seen is when my computer has been in sleeping mode for a long period of time and I try to start it again

Before anything else let me be the first one to welcome you back. You're a valuable member of our little family and an asset to the forum.

As for the downloadable copy of Windows 10 you mentioned, can you simply download it from MS and install it over the current Windows 7 or 8.1 installation? I know MS is going to offer this as a free upgrade, but even so I'm not sure if a fresh install is the best way to go. What did you do?

I think before I put it in I'll wait until they iron out most of the bugs. They'll never get all of them, but as I see it the more they get, the better.
Okay, it's a little hard to remember how I did. Basically the computer I have uses a 500gb hdd, with one partition that can be changed in size. The original windows 7 that came with it is quite bricked, so i restored it to its original point. (Leftclick doesnt work for some reason) so I downloaded windows 10 full install and put it on a flashdrive. I then plugged it into the computer and ran the setup without issues. I still have a 30gb partition on it that Win 7 uses. I guess it's a fresh install
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on February 02, 2015, 01:55 PM
Shadow97-> Check keyboard & mouse problems with keytest from passmark. Good to have you back.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Shadow.97 on February 06, 2015, 06:03 PM
Quote from: Vasudev on February 02, 2015, 01:55 PM
Shadow97-> Check keyboard & mouse problems with keytest from passmark. Good to have you back.
Thank you. :) I will try this next week, when I'm in school.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on February 06, 2015, 07:40 PM
I'm in college now, thought of taking a long leave from all forums.
Edit: I'm back in action.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: fayyaz syed on February 21, 2015, 08:04 PM
windows 10 running fine.activated and being updated by Microsoft.
wonderful experience.
fast with extra features.But this copy of tech. preview lacks many features which will be added in the retail addition.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: shhnedo on February 23, 2015, 01:34 PM
No, they didn't. Official Windows 10 release is in Q4 I think, but it sure as hell isn't H1. The latest TP build released by MS for download is 9926 (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-iso).
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: akaubee on March 11, 2015, 10:02 AM
Windows 10 preview has same problems like windows 8.1 WZT except IE internal bugs

but windows 10 preview has many problems compared to windows 8.1. The first time i had installed, icons does not display well, then internet explorer, it says 'cannot open. internal bug' (i dont recall exactly the problem in internet explorer but i will try installing again and tell you), app error 0xc00d36c4, start menu does not start correctly (must start it 2 or 3 times to start well), I set the taskbar long just to check. In next reboot, it returns normal and I often get BSOD: BAD_POOL_CALLER like i had always get in w8.1. Windows 8 preview is better than the new preview copies. I have never never got BSOD in Win7, XP. WIndows 8 get bsod BUT it got fixed. The problem in my w8 is only about drivers and softwares.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on March 12, 2015, 02:39 AM
You can't expect a pre-release version of anything to work perfectly. Unless you're a tester, the best thing to do is to sit back and wait for the official release - and even then you're going to have all kinds of updates and bug fixes coming down the pipe.

What kind driver and software issues do you have with W8? I've been on W8 and W8.1 for over 2 years and I've never run into a problem.  Or is it you're using 20 year old hardware that nobody's bothered to write a driver for in 15 years?
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: straycat19 on March 29, 2015, 08:34 PM
Quote from: usmangujjar on March 20, 2015, 05:33 AM
the latest build Windows 10 Technical Preview Build 10041, anyone tried??

I installed this update.  Note:  You must be running build 9926 to update, if you are running a leaked build it won't work.  This build is not sufficient to run on your production/game/development computer.  There are some things missing. You might not even find Mail, Calendar, and People. But if you do, you can easily tell that they’re toast â€" their tiles will look weird (saying @{Microsoft.win or something equally incomprehensible) â€" and when you click the tiles, absolutely nothing happens.

If you really want those three Universal apps, here’s how to bring them back:

Click or tap Start/All apps/Windows System. Right-click PowerShell and choose Run as Administrator.
Copy the following command into PowerShell and press Enter:

get-appxprovisionedpackage -online | where-object {$_.packagename -like “*windowscommunicationsapps*”} | remove-appxprovisionedpackage -online

That’s all one line. If it pastes into PowerShell as multiple lines, you need to go in and manually remove the page breaks. (I recommend pasting or entering the command into Notepad, just in case you need to paste it into PowerShell again.)

PowerShell should return three lines that look like this:
Path:

Online: True

RestartNeeded: False

If you don’t see those three lines, go back and make sure you (a) ran PowerShell as administrator and (b) copied the command line correctly. Run it again if need be.

Close PowerShell, click Start/All Apps, and then click the green Store icon. (The black Store (beta) icon won’t work.)
In the store, enter Mail in the search box and then click the “Mail, Calendar, and People” app when it appears. (They’re all just one app.) Choose Install.
Once the notification pops up that “Mail, Calendar, and People” is installed, close out of the Store. Click Start/All apps, then click the first @{Microsoft.win tile on the left. That should bring up the People app. Click on the next tile, and you should see Metro Mail. Click on the third tile and get Calendar.
See why I warned you that build 10041 isn’t appropriate for your production/game/development computer?

I am running it as a dual boot with Win 8.1 though you could run it in a virtual machine but running it in dual boot lets me test its ability to install actual hardware drivers.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on April 06, 2015, 04:11 AM
@straycat19 - Did you download and install the Windows 10 preview version just to play around with it on another computer? In my opinion this is the only reason that makes sense. Never get these pre-release alpha versions for every day use. Let them fix it first -- and trust me, eventually they will.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: scarface on July 16, 2015, 09:33 PM
Here you can find windows 10 RTM, released today: http://microsoft-news.com/download-windows-10-rtm-build-10240-iso/
Well I don't have the courage to look for answers, so is there anyone who knows if the rtm build can be installed over a legit oem version of windows 8.1, and be detected as activated? I heard it was free as an upgrade.

In the meantime, maybe I could trim it with sysprep, maybe harkaz or somebody else would be interested by a reduced version.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on July 17, 2015, 03:36 AM
Even if you don't get your copy of Windows 10 on July 29th, it's pretty safe to say you'll have it in less than a month. You can download it from Windows Update where (I assume) it will install over your existing Windows 7 or 8.1. What's the rush of getting all these pre-builds or RTM's? Have some patience.

They're saying "pirates" won't get a copy. If your copy says it's activated and you're downloading updates without a problem, then how do they know you never paid for it?
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on July 17, 2015, 08:52 AM
Quote from: humbert on July 17, 2015, 03:36 AM
They're saying "pirates" won't get a copy. If your copy says it's activated and you're downloading updates without a problem, then how do they know you never paid for it?
Unlikely Win 10 would be more like Win phone 8.1 wherein OS is tied strictly to device ID I think.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Yoda on July 17, 2015, 10:35 AM
Although I have the hardware, I think I ll stay with my Win 7 for the same reason I didn't tried Win 8 too.
For me, Win 10 is something like ... Windows 8.2 ... so... Win7 is fine...  :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: scarface on July 17, 2015, 11:59 AM
Well I tried windows 10. I found it slower than the previous ones.
I can't stand the new start menu. But at least it's back.

I removed a lot of garbage, like cortana and other folders in winsxs that were hampering the system. There is a new folder "infusedapps" in windows weighing 700mb, I removed it too. Everything seems to work, but in the end, when cloning the image with sysprep, I get an error " Sysprep failed to remove apps for the current user".

Finally I'm going to do like Yoda, but I'm afraid we'll have to upgrade one day because of drivers compatibility. On my current computer with windows 7, I've already been obliged to install the wifi drivers by disabling signature verification...
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: harkaz on July 17, 2015, 10:50 PM
First glitch found: Cannot complete OOBE. It will auto-restart and start from scratch.

Probably this has to do with the fact that I didn't enter a product key (although it was supposed to skip it).

Windows 10 seems rather buggy. Avoid installing it, at least for now.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on July 18, 2015, 08:53 AM
Quote from: harkaz on July 17, 2015, 10:50 PM
First glitch found: Cannot complete OOBE. It will auto-restart and start from scratch.

Probably this has to do with the fact that I didn't enter a product key (although it was supposed to skip it).

Windows 10 seems rather buggy. Avoid installing it, at least for now.
Just type in product key given to insiders: NKJFK-GPHP7-G8C3J-P6JXR-HQRJR
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on July 19, 2015, 04:49 AM
@Scarface - When you put that version of Windows 10 in, did you do a clean install or were you able to install it over Windows 7?

It's normal for the first release of anything to have some quirks. They patch these bugs as time goes on. All OS's are like that. Also keep in mind that you're probably installing a pre-release version, unless of course you got your hands on a "leaked" RTM copy or something. Besides, what's the rush? Wait 2 weeks or so for the real thing.

For Yoda and some other Windows 7 lovers, keep in mind you will not be running W7 until the 22nd century. As has always been the case, the day will come when an upgrade becomes mandatory. Maybe not right now, but sooner or later.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: jastreb on July 19, 2015, 11:04 PM
Quote from: murphy78This is Windows 10 Build 10240 that was released to Windows Insiders.
We have unconfirmed reports that it was the same build that was sent to RTMs,
but that does not mean that it will be the same build that gets released to the public with the
General Availability release (GA) on July 29th.

Please don't ask if it's the RTM. It likely was sent to Manufacturing, but also likely not the same that the public will get with GA.
RTM does not mean what it used to. It is likely going to be patched or re-built for GA.
We don't know.

*ACTIVATION NOTICE*:

    Upgrade from a Win7 (activated by daz loader in BIOS or CSM mode) or a legit 7/8/8.1 activated system (no KMS)
    After upgrade, make sure your system is activated
    After your system was activated you can clean install and just skip the key entry and it will be activated
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on July 20, 2015, 03:20 AM
@Jastreb - In compliance with our rules, please include an English translation in your signature. I suggest you leave the original in Cyrillic script and put the translation in parenthesis. It doesn't make too much sense to write that same text in Latin characters, that's not a translation.

As for Windows 10 - PATIENCE!! - Another 2 weeks of waiting won't kill you. Besides, it's a little too late to be playing around with pre-release versions.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: jastreb on July 20, 2015, 11:05 AM
Quote from: humbert on July 20, 2015, 03:20 AM
As for Windows 10 - PATIENCE!! - Another 2 weeks of waiting won't kill you. Besides, it's a little too late to be playing around with pre-release versions.

Do you have a problem with a simple info?
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on July 21, 2015, 01:27 AM
Quote from: jastreb on July 20, 2015, 11:05 AM
Do you have a problem with a simple info?

Absolutely not! Forums exist so information can proliferate. My post was to remind everyone there was no need to hurry and play around with pre-release versions because the real thing will be available in about 2 weeks or less. Add to this the fact that these are unfinished test versions which tend to be buggy - or at least buggier than the official release.

Certainly an excellent reason to run Win 10 pre-release is to avoid activation hassles when the real thing is out. I posted the link.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on July 28, 2015, 03:23 AM
As you all know, I had been suggesting a little patience when it comes to Windows 10. This morning I spoke to Maher. He informed me the official release of Windows 10 had been "leaked". He was running it and gave it awesome reviews. Based on his opinion, I changed my mind and decided to grab it. Sure enough, this thing is awesome - very stable and runs very fast.

If you guys want to install it, go to forums.digitallife.info -> Windows 10 forums -> Windows 10 RTM (Wzor Leak) and grab it. There were so many seeds and peers that my download speed reached an unbelievable 41.5 MiB/sec! I have never seen anything that fast. This is truly the real deal! The file is about 6GB and contains both the x64 and x86 versions. To install, simply mount the ISO and run the setup.exe program. It will install over Windows 7 or 8/8.1. There are no activation hassles. If your copy of Windows is activated, so will this.

Fortunately it gives you the option of restoring the start screen rather than using the new start menu (sort of). I guess the only thing I don't like about it so far is that many of the new included Metro apps can't be uninstalled. Also, if one of these apps is the default, when changing the default it points you to another pre-installed app or one in the Window Store (this does NOT apply to the browser). None of this scares me. If history has taught us anything, it's that before you even blink someone out there will find a solution.

I strongly recommend it, in particular for you guys who are still on Windows 7.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on July 28, 2015, 08:41 AM
Tomorrow is the official release of Win 10.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: somemayr on July 28, 2015, 11:01 PM
I have a copy of Windows 8.1 by Maher will Windows 10 install and Activate?
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: scarface on July 29, 2015, 04:47 AM
create a cmd file with notepad, paste this and execute it. If you don't have an invalid key name, you should see an icon appear to install windows 10 in the taskbar.
REG QUERY « HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\UpgradeExperienceIndicators » /v UpgEx | findstr UpgEx

if « %errorlevel% » == « 0 » GOTO RunGWX

reg add « HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Appraiser » /v UtcOnetimeSend /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f

schtasks /run /TN « \Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser »

:CompatCheckRunning

schtasks /query /TN « \Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser »

Powershell -Command « Get-ScheduledTask -TaskName ‘Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser’ -TaskPath ‘\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\' » | Find « Ready »

if NOT « %errorlevel% » == « 0 » ping localhost >nul &goto :CompatCheckRunning

:RunGWX

schtasks /run /TN « \Microsoft\Windows\Setup\gwx\refreshgwxconfig »
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Shadow.97 on July 29, 2015, 06:21 AM
I did the move to windows 8.1 a while ago. While sure 8 is great. There is a few features that I miss from Windows 7 still. I'm a bit lazy to explain right now. But basically, I really hope that these gets fixed. I have huge hopes from Windows 10. I was in contact with Microsoft USA Tollfree support through skype and asked a lot of questions regarding my cd key. If I'll be allowed to download an ISO from their official servers because I have a windows 8 cd key. The case is that you're not allowed an ISO download unlike when you have a cd key for windows 8 you can download it from their servers if you submit the cd key.
Sure though.. Their support which is most likely based in india(based on the accent) had huge issues understanding because I was speaking too fast. It's really interesting though seeing that a lot supports have their teams based in india. The queue times weren't horrible, but the things I love the most is that it doesn't cost anything to call unlike the numbers you usually call here in sweden for support. I'm quite amazed, as this queue was surprisingly fast compared to most swedish supports I've been in contact with. The support was lovely.

For the people who has downloaded it from mydigitallife. How do you deem the leakers trustworthy that they arent putting malware or other malicious files in your computer?
Fully honest I did not trust Maher's release enough to have it for an extremely long while. (Ex. payments, banklogin, main email. has not been accessed from the computers that have the ISO.)
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on July 29, 2015, 06:38 AM
While certainly I can understand your concern about obtaining a "non-official" versionn of Windows 10, I only went for it because Maher recommended it. If anybody know if something is legit, he does. Another thing - even if this is some sort of pre-release, rest assured it will be upgraded to the real thing in a matter of days.

Just like all releases of Windows, 10 has its annoyances. You can't uninstall many of the built-in "features" although you can disable them. Also, if you disable Windows Defender it keeps enabling itself AND the service can't be stopped. I found a goodie on winaero.com called "No Defender" which did shut it down. Some people may not like the new interface. I for one think it's a simple matter of learning it. Also - I will bet borrowed money that in the very near future there will be all kinds of Windows 10 programs and hacks that will eliminate these limitations, which is why I'm not too worried.  For now I like it and see no reason to downgrade.

@somemayr - if your copy of Windows 8.1 is activated then you're in luck. Windows 10 installs over it and retains the activation. I suggest you install it. See my post about how I got it. Get it from there, it works great.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: scarface on July 29, 2015, 06:55 AM
QuoteTheir support which is most likely based in india(based on the accent) had huge issues understanding because I was speaking too fast
Don't you guess why they are in India and not in Sweden? Well, they speak English and above all they are probably eager to work, albeit low wages. In France there are practically 4 million unemployed people, but when you are solicited by call centers, they are calling from Morocco or Tunisia. They are even asked to give French names like Julie or Sandrine. That's what globalization looks like.

Watch this video (a parody made by groland), it's the story of Laurent Montel who is ordering a pizza. He is a customer who wants to pay less and for that he's calling pizza 12 which makes its pizzas in Poland. The cheese of the pizza is made with the milk of the pregnancy of Olga and the meat is made with some delicious rat ham. He also has to deal with a call center in India (hence the dictionary French Bengali he bought...), and a few hours later a bum will deliver his pizza (and he really likes it).
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9prr9_grolandsat-pizza12_fun
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Maher on July 29, 2015, 08:20 AM
Fast reply:
Leaked ISO images by WZor are the same originals Microsoft released today http://www.neowin.net/news/download-windows-10-isos
;)

Plus, there is no real RTM.. It's gone!
Since I installed the OS 4 days ago I've been getting updates from Microsoft.
They are trying hard to polish the system to make it as close to perfection as they could.

http://www.neowin.net/news/new-windows-10-patch-available-fixes-issues-created-by-previous-update

Love you all guys ;)
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Shadow.97 on July 30, 2015, 07:26 AM
Do NOT upgrade from Windows 8 to Windows 10.
Do make sure to Upgrade to Windows 8.1 and then to Windows 10.
I did this mistake. It reported as an invalid key, don't forget to make a solid backup point so you can always go back. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Shadow.97 on July 30, 2015, 07:29 AM
Quote from: scarface on July 29, 2015, 06:55 AM
QuoteTheir support which is most likely based in india(based on the accent) had huge issues understanding because I was speaking too fast
Don't you guess why they are in India and not in Sweden? Well, they speak English and above all they are probably eager to work, albeit low wages. In France there are practically 4 million unemployed people, but when you are solicited by call centers, they are calling from Morocco or Tunisia. They are even asked to give French names like Julie or Sandrine. That's what globalization looks like.

Watch this video (a parody made by groland), it's the story of Laurent Montel who is ordering a pizza. He is a customer who wants to pay less and for that he's calling pizza 12 which makes its pizzas in Poland. The cheese of the pizza is made with the milk of the pregnancy of Olga and the meat is made with some delicious rat ham. He also has to deal with a call center in India (hence the dictionary French Bengali he bought...), and a few hours later a bum will deliver his pizza (and he really likes it).
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9prr9_grolandsat-pizza12_fun
They have a Swedish support number though, which gives the support in Swedish.
Problem for me is that I like to do my upgrades etc at nighttime, when the support is not open. Swedish support team is not there 24/7.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on July 31, 2015, 04:31 AM
@Shadow - But "upgrades" do you mean Windows updates or what? Also, if you upgrade at night and something goes wrong, can't you wait a few hours to call tech support? Also, wouldn't playing around with the upgrade for a while totally rule out the possibility the problem is on your end?

Fortunately I don't have an activation problem this time around, but I'm wondering if that strange system with these bizarre MAK keys activated by calling the UK will also work for Windows 10.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Shadow.97 on July 31, 2015, 07:46 AM
Quote from: humbert on July 31, 2015, 04:31 AM
@Shadow - But "upgrades" do you mean Windows updates or what? Also, if you upgrade at night and something goes wrong, can't you wait a few hours to call tech support? Also, wouldn't playing around with the upgrade for a while totally rule out the possibility the problem is on your end?

Fortunately I don't have an activation problem this time around, but I'm wondering if that strange system with these bizarre MAK keys activated by calling the UK will also work for Windows 10.
No, upgrade, not update.
Do not go from Windows 8OS, to Windows 10OS. GO to windows 8.1OS first, before going to Windows 10OS.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on July 31, 2015, 09:23 AM
Download torrent of Win 10 pro.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: scarface on July 31, 2015, 11:22 PM
After testing windows 10, I'm not fully convinced. There are new applications like cortana or the new edge browser, but I'm not sure they are very useful. What's more the start menu is a bit "clogged up" by unnecessary items.
To reassure harkaz, sysprep is working, but it seems it requires the applications in the infusedapps folder like windows store...
in the end, I think like Fuj, it's not urgent to upgrade to windows 10.

QuoteWhen you put that version of Windows 10 in, did you do a clean install or were you able to install it over Windows 7?
Btw, to answer an old message of humbert, I installed a full version by using vmware.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on August 02, 2015, 12:43 AM
There is indeed a lot of Metro stuff you can't delete. You can delete some, but not all. I did find a tweak that allows you to delete all of them in one shot. I didn't like it because there are some I don't want get rid of. In any case, you can bet borrowed money that sooner or later a tweaking program will overcome these limitations.

You can disable Windows Defender and Cortana in the Group Policy Editor. I'll post the tweaks if you want. Another thing that you might like is virtual desktops. Click the task view button on the taskbar or just Crtl-Winkey D for a new desktop, and Crtl-Winkey F4 to kill it. Crtl-Winkey left or right arrow moves between them.

Overall I do like Windows 10 and find that it runs better than previous incarnations of the OS. I'm not returning to 8.1, let alone 7.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on August 02, 2015, 10:05 AM
Quote from: humbert on August 02, 2015, 12:43 AM
There is indeed a lot of Metro stuff you can't delete. You can delete some, but not all. I did find a tweak that allows you to delete all of them in one shot. I didn't like it because there are some I don't want get rid of. In any case, you can bet borrowed money that sooner or later a tweaking program will overcome these limitations.

You can disable Windows Defender and Cortana in the Group Policy Editor. I'll post the tweaks if you want. Another thing that you might like is virtual desktops. Click the task view button on the taskbar or just Crtl-Winkey D for a new desktop, and Crtl-Winkey F4 to kill it. Crtl-Winkey left or right arrow moves between them.

Overall I do like Windows 10 and find that it runs better than previous incarnations of the OS. I'm not returning to 8.1, let alone 7.
My lenovo lappie has so called shortcut keys for closing apps, switching between apps and etc.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: lite on August 02, 2015, 03:39 PM
I hate official downloader for this Windows.
If anyone uploaded their ISOs, please give here links. Thanks
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on August 02, 2015, 05:19 PM
Look for torrents. There are tons of links.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on August 03, 2015, 08:38 PM
Quote from: lite on August 02, 2015, 03:39 PM
I hate official downloader for this Windows.
If anyone uploaded their ISOs, please give here links. Thanks

I agree with Vasudev. Windows 10 is everywhere. If you don't like the idea of getting it through Windows Update then either check the torrents or the link I posted, i.e forums.mydigitallife.com  (http://forums.mydigitallife.com)- Windows 10 section. There is no need to keep posting strange links. I deleted one of your topics because it linked to a bizarre download site that requires a strange downloader - at least that's what happened when I tested it.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on August 03, 2015, 09:31 PM
Quote from: humbert on August 03, 2015, 08:38 PM
Quote from: lite on August 02, 2015, 03:39 PM
I hate official downloader for this Windows.
If anyone uploaded their ISOs, please give here links. Thanks

I agree with Vasudev. Windows 10 is everywhere. If you don't like the idea of getting it through Windows Update then either check the torrents or the link I posted, i.e forums.mydigitallife.com  (http://forums.mydigitallife.com)- Windows 10 section. There is no need to keep posting strange links. I deleted one of your topics because it linked to a bizarre download site that requires a strange downloader - at least that's what happened when I tested it.
One update on WIn 10: You must perform in-place upgrade from Win 7/8.1 to win 10 first to preserve the product key of win 7/8.1 to be converted to Win 10, after successful upgrade the key is placed to Onedrive and then you can perform a clean install of the same.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: lite on August 03, 2015, 10:44 PM
Quote from: Vasudev on August 03, 2015, 09:31 PM
One update on WIn 10: You must perform in-place upgrade from Win 7/8.1 to win 10 first to preserve the product key of win 7/8.1 to be converted to Win 10, after successful upgrade the key is placed to Onedrive and then you can perform a clean install of the same.
On the Installed Windows 7/8.1, mount the Windows 10 iso and start installing, after this what the next procedure? Please explain with more simplicity, I am confused. Now downloading the Windows 10 iso.
Also tell me that this method will work on pirated copies of Windows 7?
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on August 04, 2015, 12:31 PM
Quote from: Fuj on August 04, 2015, 05:03 AM
You Win10 users should be aware that MS is by default collecting your personal data. Read this:
http://boingboing.net/2015/08/03/windows-10-defaults-to-keylogg.html (http://boingboing.net/2015/08/03/windows-10-defaults-to-keylogg.html)
Follow the link at the end of the article to learn how to disable it all.
I would like to add that you should probably start being extra careful when installing updates; don't install them automatically without knowing what they're for.
Google been doing the same for years, though. Win 7 suits me.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: lite on August 04, 2015, 02:39 PM
Google, FaceBook, Microsoft, AV programs' companies, Mac, everyone is spying. All these collecting data.
Some of these are using this specially for targeted ads, and some others reasons behind monitoring their users.
If we use mobile phones, mac and computers, there is no way to avoid from their spying.
But there are some ways to less the chances.
Still someone is too worried, he should disconnect the internet and shutdown the computer...)
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on August 04, 2015, 06:50 PM
Quote from: Fuj on August 04, 2015, 01:52 PM
Quote from: Vasudev on August 04, 2015, 12:31 PM
Google been doing the same for years, though.
...which is why Google is under constant criticism and why I would never use their browser even if I liked it and why we're using tracking protection. Now MS took it a step further, trying to profile all your activity, not just online. Not a huge surprise really, this is basically what I expected when I heard "Windows" and "free upgrade" in the same sentence. Sure you can opt-out but only a relatively small percentage of users will do that, as I argued in tracking protection thread the other day. Plus there's little doubt there will be hidden backdoors for use by government spy agencies, with whom MS is closely cooperating (example: Skype). Plus enforcing your privacy will likely get you flagged as suspicious (like NSA is retaining collected data on all who used Tor).
Quote
Win 7 suits me.
It will be remembered as the last 'normal' Windows. Sadly, we only get to use it for a few more years before we're inevitably forced to move on. After that it's Linux for me.
@Fuj: Do you use an android phone or others?
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on August 04, 2015, 09:32 PM
@Vasu - Regarding the installation of W10, the ISO simply installed it over W8.1 with no problems. There is no saving the activation to Onedrive, in fact I have nothing on Onedrive.

Any time I install anything the first thing I do is go to the settings and disable anything that smells like tracking, ads or anything similar. I was no different for W10. Also, the sad truth is that true privacy is a thing of the past. The most we can do is put a dent in it by disabling whatever they allow us to disable and using anti-tracking addons, private browsing and Ccleaner to wipe your tracks. True privacy will never return so stop daydreaming.

@lite - Simply mount the ISO, click setup.exe and just sit back. This is what I did and it worked great. Also, the only difference between a "pirated" copy of Windows and a "non-pirated" one is whether or not you paid for it. If you didn't you have a pirated copy no matter where you go it. Naturally if it came preloaded on a laptop it's a legal copy also since its price was included in the laptop purchase.

@Fuj - there are many other Chromium browsers you can use that have nothing to do with Google. Also, if you have no cell phone then how do you communicate? Do you at least have a land line? And finally, I too prefer a distro Linux instead of Windows. The problem is lack of support. I've mentioned examples of why for me a transition is just not possible.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on August 05, 2015, 08:19 PM
Quote from: humbert on August 04, 2015, 09:32 PM
@Vasu - Regarding the installation of W10, the ISO simply installed it over W8.1 with no problems. There is no saving the activation to Onedrive, in fact I have nothing on Onedrive.

@lite - Simply mount the ISO, click setup.exe and just sit back. This is what I did and it worked great. Also, the only difference between a "pirated" copy of Windows and a "non-pirated" one is whether or not you paid for it. If you didn't you have a pirated copy no matter where you go it. Naturally if it came preloaded on a laptop it's a legal copy also since its price was included in the laptop purchase.

@humb: You can't see the license file unless you've coded yourself as one of Win 10 developers. In fact, its hidden. I think it'll stored on ODrive under User Accounts & settings.
But, I've disabled all tracking through custom settings while installing on a VM. I'm impressed with win 10, but I think its win 98 in disguise with under the hood performance improvements.
I hope MS Toolkit 2.5.3 activates my Win 10.
I think settings app should be removed from Win 10 while installing on desktop or laptops. Settings App is best for smartphone & tablets. I'll post some pics of Win 10 in Win 10 thread.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on August 06, 2015, 04:24 AM
Windows 10 also has a C:\Windows\System32\spp\store folder. This is where Windows 8.1 stored the activation, and you're urged to make a backup and restore it if necessary. This is for Windows 8.1, but I'm thinking W10 follows the same logic.

@Fuj - Thanks for the links. I'm going to check them out.

a few minutes later:

I just tested Fuj's links. The second link {Destroy Windows 10 Spying} is an absolute must for any Windows 10 user. It even deletes many undeletable Windows 10 apps. The first one {Do Not Spy} tries to sneak a PUP into your system which goes against the nature of what this program is supposed to be about. I proceeded with the installation and tested. Most of the stuff it disables can be done manually. I advise using Destroy Windows 10 Spying and forgetting the other one. It's portable - no installation.

I like uBlock Origin and replaced ABE with it. To configure open the addons page, go to uBlock Origin, click Options, and at the bottom click "Show Dashboard". It's great! I even got rid of Majorgeek's message about ads being blocked! Check it out.

Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: magrat427 on August 06, 2015, 09:48 PM
Quote from: Vasudev on August 05, 2015, 08:19 PM
Quote from: humbert on August 04, 2015, 09:32 PM
@Vasu - Regarding the installation of W10, the ISO simply installed it over W8.1 with no problems. There is no saving the activation to Onedrive, in fact I have nothing on Onedrive.

@lite - Simply mount the ISO, click setup.exe and just sit back. This is what I did and it worked great. Also, the only difference between a "pirated" copy of Windows and a "non-pirated" one is whether or not you paid for it. If you didn't you have a pirated copy no matter where you go it. Naturally if it came preloaded on a laptop it's a legal copy also since its price was included in the laptop purchase.

@humb: You can't see the license file unless you've coded yourself as one of Win 10 developers. In fact, its hidden. I think it'll stored on ODrive under User Accounts & settings.
But, I've disabled all tracking through custom settings while installing on a VM. I'm impressed with win 10, but I think its win 98 in disguise with under the hood performance improvements.
I hope MS Toolkit 2.5.3 activates my Win 10.
I think settings app should be removed from Win 10 while installing on desktop or laptops. Settings App is best for smartphone & tablets. I'll post some pics of Win 10 in Win 10 thread.
MS Toolkit 2.6 BETA 1 is out and works great: http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/28669-Microsoft-Toolkit-Official-KMS-Solution-for-Microsoft-Products
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on August 07, 2015, 04:06 AM
Quote from: humbert on August 06, 2015, 04:24 AM
I like uBlock Origin and replaced ABE with it. To configure open the addons page, go to uBlock Origin, click Options, and at the bottom click "Show Dashboard". It's great! I even got rid of Majorgeek's message about ads being blocked! Check it out.

This post is probably off the topic, but let me go ahead and finish what I started.

After some more testing there is no question that uBlock Origin is one of the best FF addons I've seen. It's very efficient, very reliable and highly configurable. You can easily remove ABP, ABE, ABP Elements Hider and Greasemonkey with Anti-Adblock script. UBO also supports every filter subscription that's ever been written. When I went into sourceforge to get a file, it blocked the download but gave me the option of making a temporary or permanent exception.  This addon is solid 5 star and I highly recommend it. My thanks to Fuj for altering me to ABE being discontinued. This allowed me to stumble upon UBO.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on August 09, 2015, 10:53 AM
Looks like my pc doesn't have drivers certified for win 10, too bad.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on August 10, 2015, 07:52 PM
Quote from: Vasudev on August 09, 2015, 10:53 AM
Looks like my pc doesn't have drivers certified for win 10, too bad.

Do they work or don't they? If they work, just use them and forget everything else. MS keeps insisting any computer than can run Windows 7 or 8.1 will run W10.

What hardware do you have?
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on August 11, 2015, 09:59 AM
Quote from: humbert on August 10, 2015, 07:52 PM
Quote from: Vasudev on August 09, 2015, 10:53 AM
Looks like my pc doesn't have drivers certified for win 10, too bad.

Do they work or don't they? If they work, just use them and forget everything else. MS keeps insisting any computer than can run Windows 7 or 8.1 will run W10.

What hardware do you have?
Components are little old, based on Ivybridge. I tested w10 on VM and works fluidly, but lack of driver support for the same has compelled me to stay with w7. Probably I'll upgrade to w10.1 or  SP if there's driver support. So far, I've found drivers for Intel GPU & its chipset SW only for w10.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on August 12, 2015, 09:16 PM
Quote from: Vasudev on August 11, 2015, 09:59 AM
Components are little old, based on Ivybridge. I tested w10 on VM and works fluidly, but lack of driver support for the same has compelled me to stay with w7. Probably I'll upgrade to w10.1 or  SP if there's driver support. So far, I've found drivers for Intel GPU & its chipset SW only for w10.

Ivy Bridge isn't that old. I'm surprised you're having a problem finding drivers. Have you used one of the many driver finding tools out there?
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on August 12, 2015, 09:50 PM
Quote from: humbert on August 12, 2015, 09:16 PM
Quote from: Vasudev on August 11, 2015, 09:59 AM
Components are little old, based on Ivybridge. I tested w10 on VM and works fluidly, but lack of driver support for the same has compelled me to stay with w7. Probably I'll upgrade to w10.1 or  SP if there's driver support. So far, I've found drivers for Intel GPU & its chipset SW only for w10.

Ivy Bridge isn't that old. I'm surprised you're having a problem finding drivers. Have you used one of the many driver finding tools out there?
Main concern is I'd lose Dolby audio if win 10 is installed.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Player2 on August 12, 2015, 10:16 PM
I think that Intel is rude for not making W10 drivers for integrated graphics older than Ivy Bridge processors. They should make drivers for all I series processors. The oldest are from 2010. Nvidia made W10 drivers for 8 series cards from 2007.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on August 12, 2015, 10:38 PM
Quote from: Player2 on August 12, 2015, 10:16 PM
I think that Intel is rude for not making W10 drivers for integrated graphics older than Ivy Bridge processors. They should make drivers for all I series processors. The oldest are from 2010. Nvidia made W10 drivers for 8 series cards from 2007.
Intel is lazy for supporting & maintaining older chipsets and wants everyone to get a new board/chipset so they could get more money. Nvidia supports older hardware even-though the same runs like crap or stutters like hell on demanding apps or games which is not worth it. 
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on August 14, 2015, 01:38 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on August 12, 2015, 10:38 PM
Intel is lazy for supporting & maintaining older chipsets and wants everyone to get a new board/chipset so they could get more money. Nvidia supports older hardware even-though the same runs like crap or stutters like hell on demanding apps or games which is not worth it.

You gotta keep in mind that the majority of lamers out there use their computers for logging on Facebook, checking email or some other task that a vintage 2007 CPU will do perfectly. Add to this they gotta try to keep the price down so these people can have access to computers. Naturally, higher end CPU's are available for the rest of us with more demanding tasks.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Player2 on August 15, 2015, 08:46 AM
Quote from: humbert on August 14, 2015, 01:38 AM
You gotta keep in mind that the majority of lamers out there use their computers for logging on Facebook, checking email or some other task that a vintage 2007 CPU will do perfectly. Add to this they gotta try to keep the price down so these people can have access to computers. Naturally, higher end CPU's are available for the rest of us with more demanding tasks.
But you forget that all these users that use computers for Facebook bought machines with windows pre installed and are using built in graphics. Based on the time of release of these processors it was windows 7. Now they are seeing commercials that are encouraging them to update because it is free.
On the other hand all that these users need is a driver that send picture to their monitor. The built in driver is capable of doing that. If everything else is not working as it should they will not notice.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on August 15, 2015, 09:29 PM
Quote from: Player2 on August 15, 2015, 08:46 AM
But you forget that all these users that use computers for Facebook bought machines with windows pre installed and are using built in graphics. Based on the time of release of these processors it was windows 7. Now they are seeing commercials that are encouraging them to update because it is free.
On the other hand all that these users need is a driver that send picture to their monitor. The built in driver is capable of doing that. If everything else is not working as it should they will not notice.

If the laptop they have came preloaded with Windows 7, according to Microsoft it should updated to Windows 10 with no problems. Problems begin with older hardware preloaded with XP. In your example, for what they do the built-in driver is pretty much all they need.

Keep in mind too that Vasudev was talking about hardware 2007 and prior. Windows 7 came out in 2009.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on August 15, 2015, 10:15 PM
Quote from: humbert on August 15, 2015, 09:29 PM
Quote from: Player2 on August 15, 2015, 08:46 AM
But you forget that all these users that use computers for Facebook bought machines with windows pre installed and are using built in graphics. Based on the time of release of these processors it was windows 7. Now they are seeing commercials that are encouraging them to update because it is free.
On the other hand all that these users need is a driver that send picture to their monitor. The built in driver is capable of doing that. If everything else is not working as it should they will not notice.

If the laptop they have came preloaded with Windows 7, according to Microsoft it should updated to Windows 10 with no problems. Problems begin with older hardware preloaded with XP. In your example, for what they do the built-in driver is pretty much all they need.

Keep in mind too that Vasudev was talking about hardware 2007 and prior. Windows 7 came out in 2009.
I have a PC that ran Xp fine and after MS pulled the plug on Xp moved to 7 which was buttery smooth and you can guess how 10.x will run.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on August 16, 2015, 08:44 PM
@Vasu - If your system can run Windows 7 OK, I don't think you'll have a problem with W10. I've been running W10 with no problems of any kind since it came out. In fact it runs better and faster. There's also a whole bunch of stuff out there to help get past W10's annoyances. Destroy Windows Spying is an absolute must have.

@Scarface - It's great you decided to do a W10 ISO.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on August 16, 2015, 10:38 PM
Quote from: humbert on August 16, 2015, 08:44 PM
@Vasu - If your system can run Windows 7 OK, I don't think you'll have a problem with W10. I've been running W10 with no problems of any kind since it came out. In fact it runs better and faster. There's also a whole bunch of stuff out there to help get past W10's annoyances. Destroy Windows Spying is an absolute must have.

@Scarface - It's great you decided to do a W10 ISO.
For me windows search was not working.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on August 19, 2015, 06:55 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on August 16, 2015, 10:38 PM
For me windows search was not working.

Who in their right mind uses Windows search? I disabled it on my copy immediately. In fact, as with any copy of Windows, the first thing you have to do is remove or disable "features".
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Shadow.97 on August 19, 2015, 09:58 PM
Quote from: humbert on August 19, 2015, 06:55 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on August 16, 2015, 10:38 PM
For me windows search was not working.

Who in their right mind uses Windows search? I disabled it on my copy immediately. In fact, as with any copy of Windows, the first thing you have to do is remove or disable "features".
I use it alot to go to CMD, device manager etc.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on August 20, 2015, 08:09 AM
Quote from: Shadow.97 on August 19, 2015, 09:58 PM
Quote from: humbert on August 19, 2015, 06:55 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on August 16, 2015, 10:38 PM
For me windows search was not working.

Who in their right mind uses Windows search? I disabled it on my copy immediately. In fact, as with any copy of Windows, the first thing you have to do is remove or disable "features".
I use it alot to go to CMD, device manager etc.
Quote from: humbert on August 19, 2015, 06:55 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on August 16, 2015, 10:38 PM
For me windows search was not working.

Who in their right mind uses Windows search? I disabled it on my copy immediately. In fact, as with any copy of Windows, the first thing you have to do is remove or disable "features".
I always disabled MS search service, search just won't work even if I disabled or enabled windows search. MS just resolved it by releasing a cumulative update of 325MB. @Humbert: Does MSO 2010 work on w10?
@shadow97: You don't need search service to be enabled, and even if its disabled, you can search for finding anything.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on August 21, 2015, 06:36 AM
@Shadow - for Windows 8 and higher, simply type Win-X and in the menu you'll see Command Prompt, Device Manager and plenty more. I don't see why you'd need search. Sadly MS had it right with the Windows 8 start menu - all you did was type and the program would come up. Now they tried to mix it together with a Bing search and formed a disaster, leaving us with no alternative but to disable search.

@Vasu - you who love acronyms - is MSO Microsoft Office2010? I only tested 2013 so far, but I see no reason 2010 won't work.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on August 25, 2015, 10:22 PM
Quote from: humbert on August 21, 2015, 06:36 AM
@Shadow - for Windows 8 and higher, simply type Win-X and in the menu you'll see Command Prompt, Device Manager and plenty more. I don't see why you'd need search. Sadly MS had it right with the Windows 8 start menu - all you did was type and the program would come up. Now they tried to mix it together with a Bing search and formed a disaster, leaving us with no alternative but to disable search.

@Vasu - you who love acronyms - is MSO Microsoft Office2010? I only tested 2013 so far, but I see no reason 2010 won't work.
Last time you told me that MSO 2013 felt more cloudy & you opted for 2010, what made you switch? One thing I noticed with MS search is that search service must be atleast running at manual instead of disabling. In win 10, MS search no longer appears on Windows Features. Its because you upgraded your 8.1 to 10 and probably some of the older packages are being retained even after installation of windows 10. Which activators is foolproof for activating Win 8.1?
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on August 26, 2015, 12:24 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on August 25, 2015, 10:22 PM
Last time you told me that MSO 2013 felt more cloudy & you opted for 2010, what made you switch? One thing I noticed with MS search is that search service must be atleast running at manual instead of disabling. In win 10, MS search no longer appears on Windows Features. Its because you upgraded your 8.1 to 10 and probably some of the older packages are being retained even after installation of windows 10. Which activators is foolproof for activating Win 8.1?

I was testing MSO 2013 on my system but then I had to do a full restore and didn't put it back. It is more cloudy but fortunately it doesn't force you to use the cloud. What's worse is these online versions of Office and everything else. They love to track you.

You can search Windows 10 by typing Winkey-Q. It can be configured to search the internet through Bing, just locally or both. You can also not include Cortana if you prefer. In fact, a lot of these new "features" you don't use can be turned off through the group policy editor, if not uninstalled.

Regarding Windows 8.1, last I checked the truly foolproof activator was that scheme of getting one of those strange MAK keys and activating through the UK server through Skype. I believed I explained that once.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on August 26, 2015, 06:08 PM
Quote from: humbert on August 26, 2015, 12:24 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on August 25, 2015, 10:22 PM
Last time you told me that MSO 2013 felt more cloudy & you opted for 2010, what made you switch? One thing I noticed with MS search is that search service must be atleast running at manual instead of disabling. In win 10, MS search no longer appears on Windows Features. Its because you upgraded your 8.1 to 10 and probably some of the older packages are being retained even after installation of windows 10. Which activators is foolproof for activating Win 8.1?

I was testing MSO 2013 on my system but then I had to do a full restore and didn't put it back. It is more cloudy but fortunately it doesn't force you to use the cloud. What's worse is these online versions of Office and everything else. They love to track you.

You can search Windows 10 by typing Winkey-Q. It can be configured to search the internet through Bing, just locally or both. You can also not include Cortana if you prefer. In fact, a lot of these new "features" you don't use can be turned off through the group policy editor, if not uninstalled.

Regarding Windows 8.1, last I checked the truly foolproof activator was that scheme of getting one of those strange MAK keys and activating through the UK server through Skype. I believed I explained that once.
Sorry activators for win 10, couldn't find any foolproof ones.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on August 28, 2015, 02:00 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on August 26, 2015, 06:08 PM
Sorry activators for win 10, couldn't find any foolproof ones.

Remember that for us pirates there is no such thing as "foolproof". That's why we don't pay.

What exactly did you do? Did you test one of the many activators on TPB? Did you look for a phone activation MAK key on Pastebin? I'm assuming this is a new installation because I believe you still have another 11 months to upgrade a working Windows 7 or 8.1 machine.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on August 28, 2015, 11:33 AM
Quote from: humbert on August 28, 2015, 02:00 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on August 26, 2015, 06:08 PM
Sorry activators for win 10, couldn't find any foolproof ones.

Remember that for us pirates there is no such thing as "foolproof". That's why we don't pay.

What exactly did you do? Did you test one of the many activators on TPB? Did you look for a phone activation MAK key on Pastebin? I'm assuming this is a new installation because I believe you still have another 11 months to upgrade a working Windows 7 or 8.1 machine.
But, W7 itself is pirated one. But I suspect something fishy with MS's intentions. What if?, They're trying to get rid of all pirated copies by looking at Machine signatures and locking out our chances of getting back to w7/w8.1. I think NSA took over MS and transform into MSA. 
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on August 29, 2015, 03:35 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on August 28, 2015, 11:33 AM
But, W7 itself is pirated one. But I suspect something fishy with MS's intentions. What if?, They're trying to get rid of all pirated copies by looking at Machine signatures and locking out our chances of getting back to w7/w8.1. I think NSA took over MS and transform into MSA.

Your assumptions are totally wrong. Consider this:

1) I've explained several times how MS has historically used pirates to advance its agenda. "Windows Everywhere" without piracy is impossible. They always create a situation where they purposely leave the door open just a little bit so pirates can get their copies and spread them around.

2) When it comes to the NSA, you've been paying too much attention to the news media. The NSA knows all about piracy, torrent sites, cracks etc. -- and much more than we do. They don't care if somebody's "stealing" from MS or the MPAA -- that's not their problem. They chase down people who do real harm, such as terrorists.

3) You can rest assured that this "machine signature" thing will be defeated the very day it comes out, and the big companies know it. That's one reason you're not seeing it anywhere.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on August 29, 2015, 06:35 PM
Quote from: humbert on August 29, 2015, 03:35 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on August 28, 2015, 11:33 AM
But, W7 itself is pirated one. But I suspect something fishy with MS's intentions. What if?, They're trying to get rid of all pirated copies by looking at Machine signatures and locking out our chances of getting back to w7/w8.1. I think NSA took over MS and transform into MSA.

Your assumptions are totally wrong. Consider this:

1) I've explained several times how MS has historically used pirates to advance its agenda. "Windows Everywhere" without piracy is impossible. They always create a situation where they purposely leave the door open just a little bit so pirates can get their copies and spread them around.

2) When it comes to the NSA, you've been paying too much attention to the news media. The NSA knows all about piracy, torrent sites, cracks etc. -- and much more than we do. They don't care if somebody's "stealing" from MS or the MPAA -- that's not their problem. They chase down people who do real harm, such as terrorists.

3) You can rest assured that this "machine signature" thing will be defeated the very day it comes out, and the big companies know it. That's one reason you're not seeing it anywhere.
The first 2 points are correct and we've been discussing this matter related to piracy & pirate which I understood, but my point is, Will MS turn over new leaf to kill pirates & stop privacy one step at a time. Machine sign could be defeated by using CSM in UEFI.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on August 31, 2015, 04:06 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on August 29, 2015, 06:35 PM
The first 2 points are correct and we've been discussing this matter related to piracy & pirate which I understood, but my point is, Will MS turn over new leaf to kill pirates & stop privacy one step at a time. Machine sign could be defeated by using CSM in UEFI.

MS will never kill piracy. They depend on it to spread Windows around, using nerds like ourselves to do the dirty work for them. Their anti-piracy schemes are designed to stop regular people who don't know what an OS is. And of course companies always pay.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on August 31, 2015, 09:57 AM
Quote from: humbert on August 31, 2015, 04:06 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on August 29, 2015, 06:35 PM
The first 2 points are correct and we've been discussing this matter related to piracy & pirate which I understood, but my point is, Will MS turn over new leaf to kill pirates & stop privacy one step at a time. Machine sign could be defeated by using CSM in UEFI.

MS will never kill piracy. They depend on it to spread Windows around, using nerds like ourselves to do the dirty work for them. Their anti-piracy schemes are designed to stop regular people who don't know what an OS is. And of course companies always pay.
Companies?? you mean, organization who pays MS to run their OS & services.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on September 01, 2015, 02:56 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on August 31, 2015, 09:57 AM
Companies?? you mean, organization who pays MS to run their OS & services.

I refer to any medium to large company that uses Windows for its business (e.g. 10 workers or more). It's easier to catch and go after them because all companies have to be public, otherwise they would not be in business. They prefer to pay and be safe anyway.

Today on Betanews it said that MS put out a press release that Windows 10 was already powering 75 million computers. Notice here it's not what they're saying, it's what they're not saying. There is no mention of how many licenses they've sold or anything that even comes close. it's not hard for them to check their accounting department to see if that many people paid for W10 or an earlier version that qualified them for a legal upgrade.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on September 01, 2015, 04:56 PM
Quote from: humbert on September 01, 2015, 02:56 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on August 31, 2015, 09:57 AM
Companies?? you mean, organization who pays MS to run their OS & services.

I refer to any medium to large company that uses Windows for its business (e.g. 10 workers or more). It's easier to catch and go after them because all companies have to be public, otherwise they would not be in business. They prefer to pay and be safe anyway.

Today on Betanews it said that MS put out a press release that Windows 10 was already powering 75 million computers. Notice here it's not what they're saying, it's what they're not saying. There is no mention of how many licenses they've sold or anything that even comes close. it's not hard for them to check their accounting department to see if that many people paid for W10 or an earlier version that qualified them for a legal upgrade.
So, they want a big chunk of market share?
My dad told me, a private bank spends Rs.10 lacs per annum just for AV and you can just assume what windows costs would be.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on September 03, 2015, 06:06 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on September 01, 2015, 04:56 PM
My dad told me, a private bank spends Rs.10 lacs per annum just for AV and you can just assume what windows costs would be.

10â,¹ per annum per computer is not very much. And yes, MS made its fortune on market share and they did it because of piracy. Compare this with Apple. They had a much superior system but Steve Jobs was vehemently against the notion of anyone getting the MacOS for free. That's how MS won out.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on September 05, 2015, 05:30 PM
Quote from: humbert on September 03, 2015, 06:06 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on September 01, 2015, 04:56 PM
My dad told me, a private bank spends Rs.10 lacs per annum just for AV and you can just assume what windows costs would be.

10â,¹ per annum per computer is not very much. And yes, MS made its fortune on market share and they did it because of piracy. Compare this with Apple. They had a much superior system but Steve Jobs was vehemently against the notion of anyone getting the MacOS for free. That's how MS won out.
Rs.10 Lakhs=$15000.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on September 07, 2015, 03:31 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on September 05, 2015, 05:30 PM
Rs.10 Lakhs=$15000.

Wiki defines a "lakh" as a unit of the Indian numbering system equal to 105 (100,000). Therefore, 10 lakh should be â,¹1,000,000 (one million rupees). At today's exchange rate (6/9/2015) this comes to UD$14,995.56

Assuming the math is correct, then how much money per computer per year do Indian companies pay for their AV? Which do they use and is there no other alternative?
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on September 07, 2015, 07:48 PM
Quote from: humbert on September 07, 2015, 03:31 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on September 05, 2015, 05:30 PM
Rs.10 Lakhs=$15000.

Wiki defines a "lakh" as a unit of the Indian numbering system equal to 105 (100,000). Therefore, 10 lakh should be â,¹1,000,000 (one million rupees). At today's exchange rate (6/9/2015) this comes to UD$14,995.56

Assuming the math is correct, then how much money per computer per year do Indian companies pay for their AV? Which do they use and is there no other alternative?
Banks rely on windows too much and so far, there's no alternative but in distant future open source softwares would takeover, I suppose.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on September 09, 2015, 06:43 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on September 07, 2015, 07:48 PM
Banks rely on windows too much and so far, there's no alternative but in distant future open source softwares would takeover, I suppose.

That may be so but you didn't answer my question. How many Rupees do banks pay per computer per year? What AV company reaps the benefits?
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on September 10, 2015, 08:50 PM
Quote from: humbert on September 09, 2015, 06:43 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on September 07, 2015, 07:48 PM
Banks rely on windows too much and so far, there's no alternative but in distant future open source softwares would takeover, I suppose.

That may be so but you didn't answer my question. How many Rupees do banks pay per computer per year? What AV company reaps the benefits?
Honestly i don't know, my last visit to bank where I saw the PCs were same as mine (yes 6 y.o) and OS was w7 x32(I suppose) and employees were complaining that network is slow and are causing lot of delays during transaction and I spoke to myself saying "Run CCleaner or Just Dump your old HW and embrace the power of Devil Canyon or Skylake or perhaps AMD Zen".
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on September 10, 2015, 08:56 PM
Update: Successfully slipstreamed Win 10 to latest updates using NTLite and size is 3.9GB, everything is working w/o issues.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on September 13, 2015, 06:49 PM
With Win 10, slipstreaming would be a thing of the past since all users will automatically update to latest updates. But there's a catch, yes updates are massive.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on September 15, 2015, 05:02 PM
Anti-spy tool from Spybot (http://www.majorgeeks.com/news/story/new_on_majorgeeks_spybot_anti_beacon_for_windows.html)
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on September 16, 2015, 04:42 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on September 13, 2015, 06:49 PM
With Win 10, slipstreaming would be a thing of the past since all users will automatically update to latest updates. But there's a catch, yes updates are massive.

Slipstreaming was useful back in the days of dial-up internet when getting updates through a telephone line took all day. Today everybody has broadband, so all you have to do is let it update in the background. The beauty of it is that the updates don't need to be installed for Windows to run. Just sit back and let it do its thing.

Updates have always been "massive", not to mention it takes a while to get the slipstreamed ISO if you have a slow connection.

My point has always been that slipstreaming, although very nice, is not really necessary. Any one of Maher's old ISO will do just fine.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on September 16, 2015, 03:54 PM
Quote from: humbert on September 16, 2015, 04:42 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on September 13, 2015, 06:49 PM
With Win 10, slipstreaming would be a thing of the past since all users will automatically update to latest updates. But there's a catch, yes updates are massive.

Slipstreaming was useful back in the days of dial-up internet when getting updates through a telephone line took all day. Today everybody has broadband, so all you have to do is let it update in the background. The beauty of it is that the updates don't need to be installed for Windows to run. Just sit back and let it do its thing.

Updates have always been "massive", not to mention it takes a while to get the slipstreamed ISO if you have a slow connection.

My point has always been that slipstreaming, although very nice, is not really necessary. Any one of Maher's old ISO will do just fine.
Does Win 10 search work when its service is disabled? I've tried numerous times and found that search no longer works after disabling search service. I reckon that in-place upgrade did the trick for you. On fresh install search cannot be disabled if you use search to run programs & files.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on September 18, 2015, 03:56 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on September 16, 2015, 03:54 PM
Does Win 10 search work when its service is disabled? I've tried numerous times and found that search no longer works after disabling search service. I reckon that in-place upgrade did the trick for you. On fresh install search cannot be disabled if you use search to run programs & files.

I'd have to review my exact settings, but one thing I definitely did do was disable internet search. On my system if I hit Winkey-Q I get search, but it only searches locally. I also disable Cortana, of course.

What are you trying to find in your searches?
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on September 18, 2015, 10:08 PM
Quote from: humbert on September 18, 2015, 03:56 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on September 16, 2015, 03:54 PM
Does Win 10 search work when its service is disabled? I've tried numerous times and found that search no longer works after disabling search service. I reckon that in-place upgrade did the trick for you. On fresh install search cannot be disabled if you use search to run programs & files.

I'd have to review my exact settings, but one thing I definitely did do was disable internet search. On my system if I hit Winkey-Q I get search, but it only searches locally. I also disable Cortana, of course.

What are you trying to find in your searches?
Just to access installed software & Microsoft console add-ins(*.msc). Cortana is a resource hog at times.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on September 20, 2015, 01:48 AM
Basically what I did was disable the Bing search that is part of Windows 10 search. It only looks for stuff locally. For example, if I want character map, I just type "charmap" and it comes up.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on September 23, 2015, 03:59 PM
Quote from: humbert on September 20, 2015, 01:48 AM
Basically what I did was disable the Bing search that is part of Windows 10 search. It only looks for stuff locally. For example, if I want character map, I just type "charmap" and it comes up.
So search is working,even when search indexing service is disabled. If its working fine, then don't do clean install because whilst clean install win search won't work if the same service is disabled, this is what I observed. 
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on October 18, 2015, 03:53 AM
I'm probably the last guy you'd ever expect would post this, but I suppose that's life.  :)  Does anyone know where you obtain a slipstreamed version of Windows 10 Pro and, most importantly, how you install it would having to reformat the system and start from scratch.

I'm having a problem with Windows Update. It's set to update automatically and to notify me when a reboot is necessary. For quite a while now, after rebooting, it keeps saying "update failed" (or something). Looking into Windows Update, it shows a whole bunch of failed updates. I don't know why, it won't tell me. I'm trying to see if I can get updates another way, and slipstreaming came to mind.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on October 18, 2015, 12:07 PM
I have it, but only 200 MB is uploaded in KAT under the name of TOR_Anonymous. Are you able to remove/move Windows Update cache present under C:\Windows\Software Distribution or else perform a diagnostic using WinPE on Windows 10 Disk.
Try booting from Win 10 installation and perform system restore since KB3081424 update is known to cause problems. Here's the article http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/aug/11/windows-10-broken-update-endless-reboot-loop (http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/aug/11/windows-10-broken-update-endless-reboot-loop)
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on October 22, 2015, 02:03 AM
Thanks for the tip. I saved the link you provided and I'll read it later.

Ccleaner with winapp2.ini removes everything in C:\Windows\Software Distribution and the problem persists. Let me see what the article says and what they recommend.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on October 22, 2015, 10:32 AM
Quote from: humbert on October 22, 2015, 02:03 AM
Thanks for the tip. I saved the link you provided and I'll read it later.

Ccleaner with winapp2.ini removes everything in C:\Windows\Software Distribution and the problem persists. Let me see what the article says and what they recommend.
Try bleachbit & make sure Win update service is stopped during cleaning.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on October 23, 2015, 03:10 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on October 22, 2015, 10:32 AM
Try bleachbit & make sure Win update service is stopped during cleaning.

I've had all kinds of trouble with Bleachbit. I don't know why. Does Bleachbit get rid of stuff that Ccleaner doesn't touch, assuming the same winapp2.ini file is installed on both programs?

With respect to stopping the Windows Update service, do you mean check and see if everything in the C:\Windows\Software Distribution file is deleted - because having the service on might prevent a deletion? I manually added that directory to Ccleaner's list of directories to be cleaned.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on October 23, 2015, 11:08 AM
Quote from: humbert on October 23, 2015, 03:10 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on October 22, 2015, 10:32 AM
Try bleachbit & make sure Win update service is stopped during cleaning.

I've had all kinds of trouble with Bleachbit. I don't know why. Does Bleachbit get rid of stuff that Ccleaner doesn't touch, assuming the same winapp2.ini file is installed on both programs?

With respect to stopping the Windows Update service, do you mean check and see if everything in the C:\Windows\Software Distribution file is deleted - because having the service on might prevent a deletion? I manually added that directory to Ccleaner's list of directories to be cleaned.
Just check Windows Update uninstallers in Bleachbit. When Windows update service is turned on, it locks old updates and logs which prevents deletion. Just checking, does BB run under admin privileges on w10, for me it wasn't working w/o admin privilege and which crashed BB and cleanup wasn't working. Go to program files(x86)\Bleachbit\ and set BB to run in admin under compatibility Tab.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on October 24, 2015, 03:42 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on October 23, 2015, 11:08 AM
Just check Windows Update uninstallers in Bleachbit. When Windows update service is turned on, it locks old updates and logs which prevents deletion. Just checking, does BB run under admin privileges on w10, for me it wasn't working w/o admin privilege and which crashed BB and cleanup wasn't working. Go to program files(x86)\Bleachbit\ and set BB to run in admin under compatibility Tab.

Every time I bring up BB it gives me an error message when I close the app. This happens even when no cleaning has been performed. Also, before doing what you said I right-clicked on the exe and clicked "run as administrator". I not noticing any difference.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on October 24, 2015, 10:24 PM
Quote from: humbert on October 24, 2015, 03:42 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on October 23, 2015, 11:08 AM
Just check Windows Update uninstallers in Bleachbit. When Windows update service is turned on, it locks old updates and logs which prevents deletion. Just checking, does BB run under admin privileges on w10, for me it wasn't working w/o admin privilege and which crashed BB and cleanup wasn't working. Go to program files(x86)\Bleachbit\ and set BB to run in admin under compatibility Tab.

Every time I bring up BB it gives me an error message when I close the app. This happens even when no cleaning has been performed. Also, before doing what you said I right-clicked on the exe and clicked "run as administrator". I not noticing any difference.
if you're seeing bb error log window, you can safely ignore it.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: wallofasgard on December 14, 2015, 12:00 PM
Hi to all, its been a while... i hope that everyone is doing fine especially Mr.Maher. :)

Maybe you guys are wondering why i am posting to Windows 10 section of the Forum...it is because,now i am currently trying to test this OS on my spare machine.To be specific , i am currently running Windows 10 TH2 1511. :) Though this OS is a little big buggy according to my observation,still i have to slowly cope to this new version and because of that,i think i need some help from experts here in the forum.

As i am learning to adopt to this new OS,i also have to learn the nature of Windows Update since most of them says that Windows 10 updates are inevitable and you are to get it whether you like it or not.As i read some informations about the windows updates,they came with many types like Security updates,optional updates and this cumulative updates.

My question is about the so called "cumulative updates".Is it true that this update is the bundle of all previous updates combined in one installer? Also,is it allright if i am to wait every month for MS to release these cumulative updates and install ONLY these updates and forget about the other? And lastly...do i have to install these cumulative updates in order beginning from the oldest release or is it fine to install only the latest cumulative update and forget older versions of cumulative updates?

Thank you for reading guys and i hope you could enlighten me about this. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on December 14, 2015, 04:51 PM
Cumulative updates are bundled for each version. Build 10240 has different set of updates and latest build 1511 has different set of updates. You cannot use v10240 cumulative update on 1511 as the updates were already integrated and I hope I answered your query. Looks Like MS wants windows slipstreamers to be out of business with their new OS model.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: wallofasgard on December 15, 2015, 02:45 AM
Thanks. :) So,it means that i should only get those cumulative update for 1511. Last question if you dont mind.Do i have to install all these cumulative updates from the oldest release or is it alright to just install the latest one? :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on December 15, 2015, 03:50 PM
Quote from: wallofasgard on December 15, 2015, 02:45 AM
Thanks. :) So,it means that i should only get those cumulative update for 1511. Last question if you dont mind.Do i have to install all these cumulative updates from the oldest release or is it alright to just install the latest one? :)
I think you've answered it yourself. If you're confused about which update(s) to get, try WHDownloader and it says which update is recommended for which build version for ex. 1511.
Not necessary if you've the latest version, otherwise if you intend on slipstreaming from 10240 to all the way to 1511/10586 you need to include all updates. Its better to download the latest ISO since its size fits within a standard DVD and easier to slipstream for future updates without worrying about breaking the windows.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on December 17, 2015, 04:57 AM
I can't understand why people are so overly concerned about MS's mandatory update policy. Just update and keep on going, what's the problem? That's how my system is set up and so far I have no complaints.

@Wallofasgard - You're checking out Windows 10. What version were you running prior to this? I'm asking so I can maybe give you some pointers.

One thing we must all understand - upgrades are a fact of life. Sooner or later you'll have to make the jump.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on December 17, 2015, 05:32 PM
Quote from: humbert on December 17, 2015, 04:57 AM
I can't understand why people are so overly concerned about MS's mandatory update policy. Just update and keep on going, what's the problem? That's how my system is set up and so far I have no complaints.

@Wallofasgard - You're checking out Windows 10. What version were you running prior to this? I'm asking so I can maybe give you some pointers.

One thing we must all understand - upgrades are a fact of life. Sooner or later you'll have to make the jump.
I totally agree with your statement(s). But there's one thing we're having limited data  plan that are within our budget. If w10 downloads everything w/o user noticing and emptying all data then its frustrating. After 3-5 years, no one will bother about double digit data-plans but there will triple digit data-plans and I hope it comes to India ASAP.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: wallofasgard on December 18, 2015, 01:52 PM
currently i am using Windows 10 version 1511 build 10586.36. You see,since i cant do update integration and since my internet is so crappy most of the time,now i am planning to install these cumulative updates manually by downloading the .msu first using IDM instead of letting my PC to download and install it automatically.

I am not planning to stop the updates in Windows 10 since they are intended to polish the OS..i only want to install them first before my PC do it automatically for me.

Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on December 18, 2015, 08:52 PM
Quote from: wallofasgard on December 18, 2015, 01:52 PM
currently i am using Windows 10 version 1511 build 10586.36. You see,since i cant do update integration and since my internet is so crappy most of the time,now i am planning to install these cumulative updates manually by downloading the .msu first using IDM instead of letting my PC to download and install it automatically.

I am not planning to stop the updates in Windows 10 since they are intended to polish the OS..i only want to install them first before my PC do it automatically for me.
If you're using a education or enterprise or pro editions , you can defer some updates upto a month or two, after that it'll be installed automatically.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on February 02, 2016, 04:33 PM
Now, W10 is a recommended update from MS for 7 & 8.1. I finally upgraded to 10. Frankly, the experience is smooth and overall great performance. Mind you, i did upgrade  from 7 to W10.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: wallofasgard on February 03, 2016, 02:28 PM
What windows 10 version do you prefer the most? i am currently using version 1511 and i am quite satisfied with it.Also,there is this version before 1511 and also this redstone version so i am not sure what version to stick with (there are currently 3 versions of Windows 10,right?) .

sigh
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on February 03, 2016, 06:09 PM
Quote from: wallofasgard on February 03, 2016, 02:28 PM
What windows 10 version do you prefer the most? i am currently using version 1511 and i am quite satisfied with it.Also,there is this version before 1511 and also this redstone version so i am not sure what version to stick with (there are currently 3 versions of Windows 10,right?) .

sigh
It looks like you haven't followed MS update lifecycle, currently 10240 version is literally dead, now 1511 or TH2 is the successor to 10240 and I haven't opted for insider preview so current version is 10.0.1586.63 all updated.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on February 04, 2016, 05:13 AM
I agree with Vasudev. Windows updates itself. Go for the Pro version since you can do more stuff with it than the home version.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on February 04, 2016, 07:36 PM
Quote from: humbert on February 04, 2016, 05:13 AM
I agree with Vasudev. Windows updates itself. Go for the Pro version since you can do more stuff with it than the home version.
I update windows manually through WHD. I even made a slipstreamed version of w10 with ESD compression which reduced 4GB ISO to mere 2.85GB ISO using NTLite.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on February 07, 2016, 03:30 PM
What is WHD and how exactly do you upgrade? Maybe you know a better way than simply downloading from MS.

I assume you've disabled automatic updates. How?
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on February 09, 2016, 06:32 PM
Quote from: humbert on February 07, 2016, 03:30 PM
What is WHD and how exactly do you upgrade? Maybe you know a better way than simply downloading from MS.

I assume you've disabled automatic updates. How?
Disabled BITS and WU services and make sure connected platform & telemetry is disabled otherwise it can override disabled items(BITS & WU) to set startup to auto.
WHD: Windows Hotfix Downloader 0.2.2. Upgrade is painless, I presume you are aware of it already. Here is the WHD (http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/windows_hotfix_downloader.html)
BTW, I'm looking to buy alienware 15 r2 base model. I really like AMD GPU, it seems its not available. @humbert tell me, is it good?
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on February 16, 2016, 03:32 AM
I've never had a problem with AMD products. Currently I'm using NVidia, but you'll have no problems with AMD.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on February 16, 2016, 08:09 AM
Quote from: humbert on February 16, 2016, 03:32 AM
I've never had a problem with AMD products. Currently I'm using NVidia, but you'll have no problems with AMD.
I asked about dell alienware 15 r2.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: harkaz on March 13, 2016, 09:29 PM
Slipstreaming is indeed a thing of the past for the third patries.

There are now slipstreamed ISOs with the latest updates at MSDN.

There are no updated ISOs for the LTSB however :(
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: shhnedo on March 14, 2016, 06:50 PM
LTSB iso's won't be updated as often as mainstream iso's are.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on March 15, 2016, 05:12 PM
Quote from: shhnedo on March 14, 2016, 06:50 PM
LTSB iso's won't be updated as often as mainstream iso's are.
Don't mind if I ask you, whats LTSB?
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: harkaz on March 15, 2016, 11:10 PM
LTSB is an excellent flavour of Windows 10 Enterprise.
It has most of modern apps removed and is supported up to 10 years after each original release.

It is geared towards mission-critical machines in the Enterprise.

However, it's also ideal for privacy.

I have just created a professionally remastered ISO of Windows 10 Enterprise 2015 LTSB with many privacy/security tweaks you'll not find anywhere else. This is the first attempt I make to create something like this.

As always, setup files and PE images are also updated, sysprep -generalize in Hyper-V + WPA is original (1001 rearms) plus dism /resetbase has been executed.
.NET FW 3.5.1 is not preinstalled in the image, default component configuration has been used.

I will upload it for the good people in this forum.  Stay tuned. :)
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: shhnedo on March 16, 2016, 12:08 AM
^ Yup, basically Ent LTSB is the best form of windows 10 with most of the junk and spying missing due to the edition being built for the enterprise, where "performance is life" and spying is not so much an option. So Long Term Service Edition is missing MOST Of the spying junk.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: harkaz on March 16, 2016, 01:24 PM
Windows 10 Enterprise 2015 LTSB Privacy Edition Updated March 2016 by harkaz:

ISO: https://mega.nz/#!IIkiyAAK!Wbj7m28PTNwHhjpSFn81_faPVd3vkzvvVWDSnj5wQnk

This version is very strict with some things.
For example, Microsoft accounts are completely blocked and you won't be able to access many options from the WinRE (Windows Recovery) because it will fail to detect the Administrator accounts. You will still be able to recover your system via Recovery media and perform a refresh/reset.
You can change the respective GPO setting to restrict adding new Microsoft accounts but not logon to allow the Winre to recognize the existing accounts
(https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj966262.aspx).
I recommend keeping the default settings anyway if you are paranoid about privacy.

In addition, the Steps Recorder app has been disabled and running it from the Start Menu will do nothing. You can enable it via GPO only if you need it, because it sends data to Microsoft.

System Restore has been disabled to make recovery more difficult for forensic analysts. Plus many other tweaks.

All this with the latest March 2016 updates professionally slipstreamed (WPA remains original at 1001 rearms).

There are more advanced options to keep your system secure but this is an essential starting point.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on March 18, 2016, 02:45 AM
Why would anyone want to install Windows 10 Enterprise? Does it really have any advantages over Pro that a typical pirate like any one of use would need?

In the poll, this business of ditching Windows 10 because of telemetry is no excuse. This can very easily be defeated. I've lost count of the many Windows 10 Privacy apps available for download.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: harkaz on March 19, 2016, 11:16 AM
Enterprise edition has some security features not available in Pro.

The most important is Virtualization-based security.
That means: "Windows services that manage derived domain credentials and other secrets run in a protected environment that is isolated from the running operating system". This can be enabled via GPO.

In addition, Enterprise offers more control via GPO. The LTSB ships with no Modern apps by default, and this is good if you don't need them. In addition, it won't be upgraded as frequently as other OS editions, which is good for me.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: scarface on March 19, 2016, 12:00 PM
Well, the version given by harkaz above is not available any more. No matter, I downloaded a windows 10 x64 pro edition on the Microsoft website.
And, to remove all provisioned apps, I used the following command (750 mb saved with this mere cmd in powershell)
Get-AppXProvisionedPackage -Online | Remove-AppxProvisionedPackage -Online
Like this it looks like the Enterprise edition, with a bare start menu.

What's more I used the command: Dism.exe /online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup /ResetBase
to clean winsxs. But it's not done yet. Maybe next week I will upload it.

Note: the Enterprise version uses a License volume key if I'm not mistaken. Well, few users on the forum are liable to activate their versions with a legit key with such an edition. As for the security features, I dont think the users of the forum are Mossad agents...
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: harkaz on March 19, 2016, 12:43 PM
Takedown notice... Well, if anyone is still interested the ISO please contact me via PM.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: scarface on March 19, 2016, 05:20 PM
Well, I think I will not release a windows 10 version anytime soon:
As I said: I downloaded windows 10 v1511 and updated it. After a reboot it keeps updating. I had almost finished my customization, a few hours of work. Then comes the last update: KB3140768 cumulative update.
After a reboot, I'm stuck with a spinning circle with no possibiliy to log on.
Since I didn't delete any critical file, I checked on the internet and bingo, there is a bug with KB3140768...
It seems I'm not the only one...but in safe mode kb3140768 failed to uninstall, so I can't reboot (in audit mode).
Well, it's one more reason to stick with windows 7.

http://pcquestions.pro/windows-10/17691-Windows-update-woes-Infinite-blue-screen-with-spinning-dots-on-startup
As this user says: "I am terrified to install updates on my machine in case this happens again…. and I’m not even given the chance to choose to install them or not. This is a business machine and it potentially going down for hours has catastrophic repercussions for my business."

http://news.softpedia.com/news/it-might-happen-again-windows-10-cumulative-update-kb3140768-fails-to-install-501522.shtml
http://news.softpedia.com/news/how-to-fix-issues-caused-by-windows-10-cumulative-update-kb3140743-501298.shtml
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on March 20, 2016, 11:48 AM
Quote from: scarface on March 19, 2016, 05:20 PM
Well, I think I will not release a windows 10 version anytime soon:
As I said: I downloaded windows 10 v1511 and updated it. After a reboot it keeps updating. I had almost finished my customization, a few hours of work. Then comes the last update: KB3140768 cumulative update.
After a reboot, I'm stuck with a spinning circle with no possibiliy to log on.
Since I didn't delete any critical file, I checked on the internet and bingo, there is a bug with KB3140768...
It seems I'm not the only one...but in safe mode kb3140768 failed to uninstall, so I can't reboot (in audit mode).
Well, it's one more reason to stick with windows 7.

http://pcquestions.pro/windows-10/17691-Windows-update-woes-Infinite-blue-screen-with-spinning-dots-on-startup
As this user says: "I am terrified to install updates on my machine in case this happens again…. and I’m not even given the chance to choose to install them or not. This is a business machine and it potentially going down for hours has catastrophic repercussions for my business."

http://news.softpedia.com/news/it-might-happen-again-windows-10-cumulative-update-kb3140768-fails-to-install-501522.shtml
http://news.softpedia.com/news/how-to-fix-issues-caused-by-windows-10-cumulative-update-kb3140743-501298.shtml
I didn't face any problems like that. Did you integrate skylake drivers or something, I observed a huge startup delay and responsiveness issues on Broadwell and Skylake chipsets on w10, considerable slowdown w/o any reason, yeah it happens only sometimes, though.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: scarface on March 20, 2016, 06:21 PM
QuoteI didn't face any problems like that. Did you integrate skylake drivers or something, I observed a huge startup delay and responsiveness issues on Broadwell and Skylake chipsets on w10, considerable slowdown w/o any reason, yeah it happens only sometimes, though.

No, I was just updating windows 10 in a virtual machine to sysprep the image (on my old computer, it's a broadwell i7 5500u). If you are searching on the internet it seems there is a real problem with the latest cumulative updates, preventing the system from booting. 2 years ago I already made a fuss on the champs elysées, because I was told I couldn't buy a computer without windows 8 or without OS. I used windows 7 thereafter anyway. But this time I've been able to switch to a new computer, without os (sold with freedos). I don't regret my choice, I saved some money and I'm avoiding the bugs surrounding windows 10.
For your information, my old computer is a hp (which was not providing any drivers for windows 7, and I had to use the driver of another laptop for the wifi, the ones for windows were not compatible). Well, I'm not a spendthrift, but I stumbled upon an unexpected opportunity, a special offer due to a liquidation. Instead of 1300e, I paid 1000e. The brand is msi, with an intel 6700hq, 8gb of ram and a nvidia 960gtx. There was no OS, but I found out that msi was providing some drivers for win7-8-10 for this computer. Now I just have to sell the other one.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on March 21, 2016, 02:08 PM
Have you tried Snappy Driver Installer(an alternative to DPS)? I found my drivers through the same SW and pick driver only packages from station-drivers.com, yeah even I'm looking for a gaming laptop from AW, mostly AW 15 series.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: scarface on March 21, 2016, 04:26 PM
QuoteHave you tried Snappy Driver Installer
I said I was using a virtual machine. No driver was installed.
It's a bug of Microsoft, as confirmed by the links I pasted on the forum.

btw, I was thinking it would be good to clean the windows 7/8/10 topics and the one about rebase. I deleted a few of my very first post one month ago for example (about windows lite in the windows 7 support...). 
we dont see anymore my win 7 lite links and the presentation of the program sold by harkaz. If you can delete your unnecessary messages.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on March 22, 2016, 04:48 AM
I upgraded to Windows 10 v1511 manually. I download and ran MS' Media Creation Tool and it did it all. Not surprisingly, the upgrade re-installed all those garbage Metro apps and re-enabled spying. I took care of that by downloading and runnning Destroy Windows Spying, and then changing some other settings the program missed. It's running great so far.

I suppose one positive thing to be said about Windows is that either MS will give you a way to disable the "features" or someone else will figure a way to do it. If garbage apps don't have an uninstall option, you can still use Powershell to nuke them. Incidentally, if you want to disable Cortana completely, do this:

1) Download and install Unlocker 1.92, an excellent tool

2) Goto C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.Windows.Cortana_cw5n1h2txyeny

3) Find "SearchUI.exe" and, using Unlocker, rename it to [for example] disable.SearchUI.exe"

4) Go to Task Manager, look for the Cortana process and kill it. You'll never see it again
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on March 22, 2016, 04:29 PM
Quote from: Fuj on March 22, 2016, 05:26 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on March 20, 2016, 11:48 AM
I observed a huge startup delay and responsiveness issues on Broadwell and Skylake chipsets on w10, considerable slowdown w/o any reason, yeah it happens only sometimes, though.
Hi, Vasudev. Random freezing and stalling is a known Skylake issue. Reportedly it can happen a few times a week up to several times a day. In some cases it seems to be tied to C-states and disabling them helps but in others it doesn't. Intel has acknowledged and is investigating the issue and it will hopefully be fixed through a microcode update. Not all Skylake owners experience this problem but an unusually high number does. It seems you are among those who lost at Intel's silicon lottery. And this is not the only 'infancy problem' Skylake has. It freezes when running some specific tests in Prime95 and possibly in other scenarios. Intel has acknowledged this one too; people are comparing it to original Pentium's FDIV bug. Next, Skylakes are cut from a thinner wafer that can bend under the weight of some aftermarket coolers, destroying the processor. Again, Intel has recognized the issue but this one certainly can't be fixed with a microcode update. Other things worth mentioning is no EHCI support, meaning Win7 can't be installed from usb without slipstreaming special drivers; some mobo manufacturers like Asrock provide a utility to directly patch the iso. Also, H170/Z170 chipset has dropped VGA (D-SUB) connector for onboard video. Not a big deal for majority of users but for some it might be because not everyone buys a discrete gfx card and if they need to connect the PC to an older screen they can't. Finally, you're tied to DDR4; it's technically possible to use DDR3 but Intel claims it can damage the CPU due to higher voltage. DDR4 is quite a bit pricier while providing only marginally better performance; frequencies are higher but so are latencies. It will be awhile before DDR4 becomes truly superior but those new modules won't be properly utilized on the chipset you get now.
On the plus side, Skylakes are more power-efficient and have lower temps due to 14nm and voltage regulator back on mobo instead of FIVR. Overall Skylake+DDR4 performance is 10-15% better than comparable Haswell+DDR3 models but that should be taken with a grain of salt because we're talking benchmarks, not real world.
I'm pretty well informed as I'm in the process of building a new rig (components should arrive in a few days) so I did thorough research. I'm not an early adopter, I prefer time-tested and polished products with good price value. Definitely not a sucker for bleeding edge. Skylake is just half a year old so I was inclined to Haswell from the start (no Broadwell for desktops) and when I found out about the issues, the decision was made. I also saved some money (~80 euros, mostly because I got a great deal on DDR3). If it gave me substantially more processing power, I'd take the chance and go with Skylake, but that's not the case. We're way past the days of Moore's law; certain physical limits have been reached and you can only expect performance bumps to get smaller with each gen until we get commercial quantum computers, which is at least 15 years away. In the meantime there will be less and less reasons to upgrade. I already fear the marketing bullcrap they'll think of to convince/force us to buy new hardware. In conclusion, Skylake is a step forward but not a big step. People who want to upgrade should probably wait until it becomes more reliable and if they can't afford to wait they might be better off with Haswell for now. My opinion.
I just felt when doing normal tasks took longer than usual. Yeah IB, Haswell and DC don't have this trouble. Yeah good choice @Fuj. I'm upgrading to Kaby Lake CPU and newer GPU before the end of this year. I hope AMD Zen would pull up their business and deliver their promise. I think KabyLake will be refined edition on 14nm wafer.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on March 23, 2016, 08:29 PM
Quote from: Fuj on March 22, 2016, 05:44 PM
I also hope Zen does well. I'm no Intel fanboy and I actually like AMD better as a company but the cold truth is that Intel is currently wiping the floor with them, especially in the high end segment. If you want performance and are willing to pay for it, you will go with i5/i7. Things like these Skylake issues would be less likely to happen if Intel had fierce competition and it would also bring the prices down.
Yeah I agree. This time AMD has to fight both Blue Team and Green Team with CPu and GPU which are arriving in Q2 2016.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on March 24, 2016, 04:24 AM
It's not the first time that Intel has come out with a problem their CPU's and it won't be the last. I remember that when the Pentium was released in the mid 1990's, the floating point unit was working. There were times the Windows calculator actually gave you the wrong answer to a simple division problem. There was a massive recall and all affected CPU's were replaced in full warranty regardless of how long ago you bought it.

Always keep in mind fixing these errors is costly for these companies.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on March 24, 2016, 05:11 PM
Quote from: Fuj on March 24, 2016, 02:15 PM
Yes, the infamous FDIV bug. What do Pentium and a rabbit have in common? They can multiply but can't divide. :) Such major fiascos don't happen these days because they don't need to recall, they just issue a microcode update.
Similar inaccurate results were obtained whilst running prime 95 with HT at 90% load on latest skylakes.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on March 25, 2016, 06:18 AM
Quote from: Fuj on March 24, 2016, 02:15 PM
Yes, the infamous FDIV bug. What do Pentium and a rabbit have in common? They can multiply but can't divide. :) Such major fiascos don't happen these days because they don't need to recall, they just issue a microcode update.

Perhaps not, but I vividly remember I had to take my desktop into a dealer of their choosing. They replaced the CPU outright. In fact the talk going around was that Intel was grounding up the used CPU and reusing them for something.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: usmangujjar on August 19, 2016, 09:10 PM
In few days, I will give another try to windows 10 Pro.
I will create a Lite version. I never care for updates, and like to trash many Windows builtin apps and features. I do this for routine use, internet surfing, MS Office and for some games.
Now downloaded up-to date iso from a torrent site.
I don't know anything about Windows 10 spying, maybe scarface and Vasudev have some tips.
Hope some members interested and give me suggestions.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on August 19, 2016, 11:19 PM
Quote from: usmangujjar on August 19, 2016, 09:10 PM
In few days, I will give another try to windows 10 Pro.
I will create a Lite version. I never care for updates, and like to trash many Windows builtin apps and features. I do this for routine use, internet surfing, MS Office and for some games.
Now downloaded up-to date iso from a torrent site.
I don't know anything about Windows 10 spying, maybe scarface and Vasudev have some tips.
Hope some members interested and give me suggestions.
Disable Connected user and telemetry,delivery optimisation and most of the spy would be disabled, around 60-70%. Will upload my service list if there's any new changes.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on August 26, 2016, 03:43 AM
Quote from: usmangujjar on August 19, 2016, 09:10 PM
I don't know anything about Windows 10 spying, maybe scarface and Vasudev have some tips.
Hope some members interested and give me suggestions.

Disabling these "features" isn't difficult. If you want to go the fast way, you can use apps such as Do Not Spy or Destroy Windows Spying. Google them and simply follow the instructions. They'll even get rid of many of these useless Metro apps which come bundled with W10.

I know this is a pain but I feel it's worth it. The OS is very stable and works great.
Title: Windows 10 Support
Post by: peter47 on October 10, 2016, 11:27 AM
Is there any link which helps me for free download of Windows 10 ?
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on October 11, 2016, 10:04 AM
You can directly download Win 10 from Microsoft. Choose the correct edition depending on your system Win 10 Single Language or Win 10 (can support wide array of languages). Approx size is 4 GB. Most OEMs use single lang. and simply Win 10 is your retail version.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Denied on December 06, 2016, 09:39 AM
yeah but will these programs disable mostly everthing? yesterday i did read about windows 10. i have done it before. but yesterday i did it again. read some articles and watched some videos. as i understand windows 10 is a malware spybot or something like that. i mean the data that they collect from a user is horrifying. from personal info: data, key strokes, relationship status, passwords etc and so on. the list goes on. doesn't that seem very strange? so really is there a way to turn all of this off? like almost everything? will the custom software do it? or do we need to go deeper into the registry and hosts file...

and what about software like O&O ShutUp10 & Spybot Anti-Beacon???
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on December 06, 2016, 03:59 PM
Yeah it must and should work, otherwise these SW are useless. If you use Express Settings whilst installation process, you must use these SW otherwise disable unnecessary service like Connected Users and Telemetry to get rid of telemetry completely.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on December 07, 2016, 03:14 AM
I agree with Vasudev. Disabling spying and telemetry will NOT break the OS. It's all disabled on my end. I used tools such as Do Not Spy, Destroy Windows Spying, and O & O Shut Up without any problems. If you prefer to play it safe, you can also disable most of this in the settings. Hit Winkey-I, select Privacy and shut all that stuff off. You can also use the Group Policy Editor to disable Cortana, Windows Defender, etc. Search Google and you'll find it immediately.

In my opinion once you've done all this the OS works great. I see no reason to downgrade to a previous version.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on December 07, 2016, 09:31 AM
Quote from: humbert on December 07, 2016, 03:14 AM
I agree with Vasudev. Disabling spying and telemetry will NOT break the OS. It's all disabled on my end. I used tools such as Do Not Spy, Destroy Windows Spying, and O & O Shut Up without any problems. If you prefer to play it safe, you can also disable most of this in the settings. Hit Winkey-I, select Privacy and shut all that stuff off. You can also use the Group Policy Editor to disable Cortana, Windows Defender, etc. Search Google and you'll find it immediately.

In my opinion once you've done all this the OS works great. I see no reason to downgrade to a previous version.
I think its best to create a thread about "W10 privacy concerns and how to get rid of them" and pin it in W10 Support.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Yoda on February 19, 2017, 06:43 PM
I am still using Win7 (x64) to all my machines, but... just in case... is there any working win10 activator?
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Yoda on February 20, 2017, 06:43 PM
Quote from: scarface on February 19, 2017, 10:39 PM
... I advise you to keep windows 7.

He he...  That was my thought too my friend... I'm not interested in windows 10 yet.
I just want to play with W10 in a VM....

Thanks for the KMSTools link  ;)
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on February 20, 2017, 07:17 PM
Quote from: scarface on February 20, 2017, 07:00 PM
Quote from: Yoda on February 20, 2017, 06:43 PM
Quote from: scarface on February 19, 2017, 10:39 PM
... I advise you to keep windows 7.

He he...  That was my thought too my friend... I'm not interested in windows 10 yet.
I just want to play with W10 in a VM....

Yes... And yet, I will try to release an edition of windows 10 when windows 10 redstone 2 is out.
One of the biggest problems I've encountered with windows 10 is the fact that upgrades are not possible while using sysprep. It's a big problem since I don't want to download a new edition each time an upgrade is released. And I'm sure harkaz is aware of this problem.
by the way Since you are from Greece, maybe you have already met this specialist living in Athens.
Well, I'm looking forward to releasing sth with windows 10 in case I would buy a brand new computer (I'd like to be a computer with freedos, but the latest ones only provide drivers for windows 10, even if I'm sure it's possible to find some drivers for windows 7 too). Unfortunately, I'm going to keep mine for some time (it's already an excellent computer). Because the i7 kabylake turns out to be disappointing compared to the i7 skylake (only a bit faster, because the cpu has a better frequency, but it tends to be like the old pentium 4, it tends to heat up quickly). And also because I'm losing a hell lot of money on the stock markets with my short positions.
I still advise you to sell your stocks though. And cgg veritas...-3% once again, This week end I was telling you to stay away from this one in the topic about finance: http://www.boursorama.com/cours.phtml?symbole=1rPCGG
Quote
Yes on Windows 10 one must download new editions to keep it updated. Even I'm waiting for RS2. BTW, Cumulative updates for windows is becoming a norm these days and slipstreaming is proving to be a thing of the past, as @humbert pointed out few years ago. Those with slower connections needs slipstreamed windows no matter what.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Yoda on February 21, 2017, 06:37 PM
Slightly off-topic:
Speaking about CPUs, Last week I upgraded my CPU to an Octacore AMD FX8350 (AM3+/4.00GHz) and I am very happy with it.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: scarface on February 21, 2017, 11:15 PM
Quote from: Yoda on February 21, 2017, 06:37 PM
Slightly off-topic:
Speaking about CPUs, Last week I upgraded my CPU to an Octacore AMD FX8350 (AM3+/4.00GHz) and I am very happy with it.

It seems to be a good one indeed. I compared it to sth I know, the i7 6700hq, and it turns out to be very close in terms of performance. In any case, I think you should avoid the latest cpus of Intel (kabylake), I read negative feedback several times.
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-6700HQ-vs-AMD-FX-8350/m34954vs1489
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on February 22, 2017, 06:44 AM
Quote from: scarface on February 21, 2017, 11:15 PM
Quote from: Yoda on February 21, 2017, 06:37 PM
Slightly off-topic:
Speaking about CPUs, Last week I upgraded my CPU to an Octacore AMD FX8350 (AM3+/4.00GHz) and I am very happy with it.

It seems to be a good one indeed. I compared it to sth I know, the i7 6700hq, and it turns out to be very close in terms of performance. In any case, I think you should avoid the latest cpus of Intel (kabylake), I read negative feedback several times.
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-6700HQ-vs-AMD-FX-8350/m34954vs1489
Even the successor to KL doesn't sound promising, a mere optimisation of 14nm node.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on February 22, 2017, 07:03 AM
Quote from: Yoda on February 21, 2017, 06:37 PM
Slightly off-topic:
Speaking about CPUs, Last week I upgraded my CPU to an Octacore AMD FX8350 (AM3+/4.00GHz) and I am very happy with it.

I used to have one. It's pretty good but it's not as fast as Intel. Even a good i5 can beat it. It also runs hot and eats power like crazy. Other than that it's fine.

What mobo did you put that in?
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on February 23, 2017, 07:11 AM
Now that we're discussing CPU's, check out this awesome link (https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/244837-amd-unveils-ryzen-launch-dates-clock-speeds-performance-pricing). Benchmarks on AMD's new Ryzen against Intel's best are impressive. Power consumption is much less. Of course the price is right!

If AMD can pull this off it'll give Intel something to worry about. If Ryzen they're probably out of the CPU business and Intel is left with virtually no serious competition. I suppose time will tell. Let's wish them luck.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Yoda on February 23, 2017, 02:09 PM
Quote from: humbert on February 22, 2017, 07:03 AM
What mobo did you put that in?
MSI 970A SLI Krait Edition
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on October 21, 2017, 03:55 AM
Have you guys upgraded your copy of Windows 10 to Creators? It seems OK. As always with Micro$haft, they reinstall all their bloat and telemetry, so I have to go in and remove it.

Have you guys checked out Ubuntu on the Windows store? This is different from the bash shell, it's apparently the distro itself. Interesting thing: all over the net it says how to get and install it, there is NO mention of exactly what you can do with it. I've searched and I haven't even found a simple example. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: Vasudev on October 21, 2017, 10:49 AM
Quote from: humbert on October 21, 2017, 03:55 AM
Have you guys upgraded your copy of Windows 10 to Creators? It seems OK. As always with Micro$haft, they reinstall all their bloat and telemetry, so I have to go in and remove it.
I'm not upgrading to Fall Creators Update but sticking with Creators update for a long time before upgrading. O&O SP 10, Winaero tweaker are your friends for removing bloatware. Alternatively, you can check NBR forums for W10 Bloatware Free ISO that removes most garbage from Win 10 including Windows Defender.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: PANZER24 on November 12, 2017, 07:10 PM
About windows 10, my sister bought a new laptop and itis running windows 10x64!!!!I noticed some flickering font like it is the cause of resolutions, I checked it, the resolution was the highest one!!!I enabled all the visual options in advanced system options but nothing works!!!it looks like a damaged textures or a damaged internet browser
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: scarface on November 12, 2017, 08:27 PM
Quote from: PANZER24 on November 12, 2017, 07:10 PM
About windows 10, my sister bought a new laptop and itis running windows 10x64!!!!I noticed some flickering font like it is the cause of resolutions, I checked it, the resolution was the highest one!!!I enabled all the visual options in advanced system options but nothing works!!!it looks like a damaged textures or a damaged internet browser

Well, try 1080x1024 1920x1080.
As for me, the computer I bought was sold with freedos... a free os. Of course I uninstalled it and put something better on it. I bought it last year. It was a high-end configuration.  With a 10% promotion and without microfock, I saved 250 euros.
Actually, this year is a bit dramatic for me, financially speaking. I won't buy a computer for the moment. And this one is really good anyway. The i9 is really expensive. Well lately I bought a hdd (wanted to buy a ssd and I finally bought a 1To hd, less than a quarter of a ssd price, I guess it's enough for storage).
And I learnt 2 days ago that I have to spend 700â,¬ for my cars (the tailpipe is dead, the engine is making the noise of a porsche, but with 120 horsepower I can get fined). Plus the brakes and a shock absorber which are dead too...
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on November 13, 2017, 03:33 AM
Panzer -> I have never seen a computer with flickering fonts. In fact, even when booting from Strelec which uses 1024x768 as default, there is no flickering of any kind. I'm under the impression the graphics card driver might be bad or the card's software might be misconfigured. I'm thinking it might not be set at 60Hz or, even worse, might be set to interlaced. Check this first, if that doesn't work then can you swap the computer out?

Scarface -> Honestly, do you really need a car is Paris? When I visited the City of Lights, almost always rode the Métro and it's excellent. You can go from one place to another without the slightest problem. In fact, the streets are narrow, the traffic is congested, and finding a place to park is next to impossible. All this plus the high cost of fuel and maintenance. Seems to me cars are more a disturbance than a necessity.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: PANZER24 on November 13, 2017, 09:23 PM
About scarface's car, it makes my remeber of my dad's one: Turbo is dead, wheels are old, injectors are  dead, everything is dead, he had to pay 3.000TD(1300 euro) to fix it and he did!!!!and the problem is when I insist to tell him to add another RAM to the pentuim computer he shouts at me stating that he doesnt have money. one 1gb ram costs 45TD(18euro) I wanted him to take a one :'( :'( :'(
3.000TD-45TD=2.955TD!!!(this made me crazy!!) in short words if they tell him to sell himself for the car he do but when they tell him to buy a 1gb ram he says that it is expensive!!!!
Title: Re: Windows 10 Support
Post by: humbert on November 14, 2017, 05:18 AM
I know all about people like your father. It boils down to the fact that we all have our likes and dislikes, plus the fact that everyone enjoys their money differently. Let me give you a more extreme example. I had an uncle who did nothing more than put his money in the bank, save it all and not spend a penny. I couldn't understand this until someone explained to me that's how he enjoys his money. Spending money on [for example] an expensive car would make him go crazy, he could never enjoy the car.