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Title: What kind of meat it is
Post by: scarface on October 11, 2015, 11:02 AM
This week I stumbled upon a sausage than some of you may deem exotic of unfamiliar. Maybe Maher or Yoda are eating such a kind of meat, but it is not usual. So I'm going to ask you to vote if you have recognized what kind of meat it is. This "Saucisson" comes from South America, and as you can see on the photo, this reddish meat looks good.

(https://image.ibb.co/c6DZgV/580954-WP20151009007.jpg)
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: Yoda on October 11, 2015, 03:17 PM
Maybe Maher or Yoda are eating such a kind of meat, but it is not usual.
Well... Thats true... I m mostly eating meat (a lot of)...
There are a lot of similar looking meats in Greece, but it looks like a kind of Salami. So I ll say that should be pork meat... (My second guess should be donkey)

(I have no problem to deal with vegetarians though... I m eating vegetarians too...  :P )
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: scarface on October 11, 2015, 03:56 PM
Well, somebody voted pork in the poll, I guess it's you. I did not vote in order not to distort the results. I'll give the answer later.
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: scarface on October 15, 2015, 05:27 AM
I'm going to give you the answer.

It's not pork: had it been pork, the meat would have looked a bit more pinkish. It's true that chorizo is red, but it's due to the addition of paprika.
(https://mishmashfood.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/chorizo_maldonado_full.jpg)
It's not Mammoth nor E.T., indeed Both of them disappeared a long time ago.
Nor it is ostrich, even if its meat is also a bit red.
This is donkey meat. Maybe some of you are eating such food. I've been a bit mistaken since Islam forbids donkey meat, as well as dog, cat, monkey, lion, elephant... except wild donkeys, as mentioned in the hadith of Abou Qatâda.
(http://www.rantpets.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/1322302492_4c592fe82f_z.jpg)
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: Yoda on October 16, 2015, 02:39 AM
Aha!
I have tried a lot of type of meats (Ostrich, crocodile, frog etc) but never donkey
(Also the one in the photo is too cute to be eaten...) :D
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: humbert on October 17, 2015, 07:41 PM
Aha!
I have tried a lot of type of meats (Ostrich, crocodile, frog etc) but never donkey
(Also the one in the photo is too cute to be eaten...) :D

Crocodile meat is excellent. I tried it during a trip to Cuba several years ago. Sadly it's not available here in the USA.
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: Vasudev on October 28, 2015, 09:32 AM
Aha!
I have tried a lot of type of meats (Ostrich, crocodile, frog etc) but never donkey
(Also the one in the photo is too cute to be eaten...) :D

Crocodile meat is excellent. I tried it during a trip to Cuba several years ago. Sadly it's not available here in the USA.
Its first time hearing about croc and donkey meat, since I stopped eating meat and turned to veggies.
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: humbert on October 29, 2015, 07:48 PM
Its first time hearing about croc and donkey meat, since I stopped eating meat and turned to veggies.

How do you get the necessary proteins?

If it were up to me I'd become a vegetarian too. That's just not possible. My lady and almost everyone I know are total carnivores. I'd have to have a separate meal for myself instead of just eating what's being cooked for everybody.
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: Vasudev on October 30, 2015, 10:43 AM
I eat 2 chicken eggs every 2 days and also fish meat in small amounts. I was bored of eating meat frequently, so I stopped eating it.
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: humbert on November 01, 2015, 05:32 PM
I eat 2 chicken eggs every 2 days and also fish meat in small amounts. I was bored of eating meat frequently, so I stopped eating it.

Do you live with a family where a common meal is prepared for everyone? If so then how do you deal with others not sharing your views when it comes to meat, or anything else for that matter? This is my situation.
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: Vasudev on November 02, 2015, 08:05 AM
I eat 2 chicken eggs every 2 days and also fish meat in small amounts. I was bored of eating meat frequently, so I stopped eating it.

Do you live with a family where a common meal is prepared for everyone? If so then how do you deal with others not sharing your views when it comes to meat, or anything else for that matter? This is my situation.
Common meal is served and its not that they want meat frequently as I did in the past, meat serving for other members of the family use a minimal amount. At first, they were shocked and accepted it later.
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: scarface on November 02, 2015, 04:59 PM
Well, I stumbled upon an article about eggs and it made me think about the message posted by Vasudev on the forum. This article is in French, but you can translate it with google, currently I don't have the courage to translate it, but if someone does, I will put the translation. I guess the proficiency in French of certain users, like humbert or little iih might be sufficient to understand this article, even though it's using technical terms.


Manger des œufs tue. Peut-être verra-t-on bientôt cette inscription sur les boîtes d’œufs: selon une étude canadienne publiée le 13 août, consommer du jaune d’œuf serait presque aussi nocif pour la santé que fumer. Le Dr David Spence, de la Western University, a étudié les effets du jaune d’œuf sur 1.200 patients et en a conclu que manger cette partie grasse de l’œuf augmenterait le risque d’athéro-sclérose, qui se caractérise par le dépôt d’une plaque de lipides sur la paroi des artères, pouvant entraîner leur obstruction.

Selon les scientifiques, le risque de développer une athéro-sclérose pour les mangeurs de jaune d’œuf serait seulement inférieure d’un tiers à celui des fumeurs. Les 1.231 personnes étudiées, hommes et femmes âgés de 61,5 ans en moyenne, sont des patients d’une clinique de prévention des maladies cardio-vasculaires à Londres. Les médecins ont observé une corrélation entre l’épaisseur de la plaque de lipides présente dans leurs artères et leur consommation de jaunes d’œufs et de cigarettes.
Le cholestérol en cause

Au-dessus de trois œufs par semaine, les risques augmentent significativement: «Nous savons depuis longtemps qu’un taux élevé de cholestérol augmente les risques de maladies cardiovasculaires, explique le Dr David Spence. Les jaunes d’œufs sont riches en cholestérol et pour les diabétiques un œuf par jour peut multiplier par deux, et même parfois par cinq, les risques coronariens.» D’autres recherches seront menées pour prendre en compte de nouveaux éléments comme le poids des patients ou leur activité physique, mais les médecins recommandent d’ores et déjà aux personnes à risque de ne pas consommer de jaunes d’œufs.

Selon l’Institut national de la santé et de la recherche médicale (Inserm), les facteurs les plus importants d’arthéro-sclérose sont les excès de cholestérol et de triglycérides, l’hypertension artérielle, l’obésité, le diabète mais aussi le tabac, le stress et la sédentarité. Des prédispositions génétiques peuvent aussi favoriser son apparition. En 2007, une équipe de chercheurs français avait démontré que l'exposition à la pollution atmosphérique parisienne affectait également la paroi des vaisseaux sanguins
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: Vasudev on November 03, 2015, 11:52 AM
Well, I stumbled upon an article about eggs and it made me think about the message posted by Vasudev on the forum. This article is in French, but you can translate it with google, currently I don't have the courage to translate it, but if someone does, I will put the translation. I guess the proficiency in French of certain users, like humbert or little iih might be sufficient to understand this article, even though it's using technical terms.


Manger des œufs tue. Peut-être verra-t-on bientôt cette inscription sur les boîtes d’œufs: selon une étude canadienne publiée le 13 août, consommer du jaune d’œuf serait presque aussi nocif pour la santé que fumer. Le Dr David Spence, de la Western University, a étudié les effets du jaune d’œuf sur 1.200 patients et en a conclu que manger cette partie grasse de l’œuf augmenterait le risque d’athéro-sclérose, qui se caractérise par le dépôt d’une plaque de lipides sur la paroi des artères, pouvant entraîner leur obstruction.

Selon les scientifiques, le risque de développer une athéro-sclérose pour les mangeurs de jaune d’œuf serait seulement inférieure d’un tiers à celui des fumeurs. Les 1.231 personnes étudiées, hommes et femmes âgés de 61,5 ans en moyenne, sont des patients d’une clinique de prévention des maladies cardio-vasculaires à Londres. Les médecins ont observé une corrélation entre l’épaisseur de la plaque de lipides présente dans leurs artères et leur consommation de jaunes d’œufs et de cigarettes.
Le cholestérol en cause

Au-dessus de trois œufs par semaine, les risques augmentent significativement: «Nous savons depuis longtemps qu’un taux élevé de cholestérol augmente les risques de maladies cardiovasculaires, explique le Dr David Spence. Les jaunes d’œufs sont riches en cholestérol et pour les diabétiques un œuf par jour peut multiplier par deux, et même parfois par cinq, les risques coronariens.» D’autres recherches seront menées pour prendre en compte de nouveaux éléments comme le poids des patients ou leur activité physique, mais les médecins recommandent d’ores et déjà aux personnes à risque de ne pas consommer de jaunes d’œufs.

Selon l’Institut national de la santé et de la recherche médicale (Inserm), les facteurs les plus importants d’arthéro-sclérose sont les excès de cholestérol et de triglycérides, l’hypertension artérielle, l’obésité, le diabète mais aussi le tabac, le stress et la sédentarité. Des prédispositions génétiques peuvent aussi favoriser son apparition. En 2007, une équipe de chercheurs français avait démontré que l'exposition à la pollution atmosphérique parisienne affectait également la paroi des vaisseaux sanguins
@scarface:How do you type french w/o any errors? Yes I get it, eat more eggs is bad for health in the long run.
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: humbert on November 03, 2015, 10:17 PM
@Vasu - I was under the impression you stopped eating meat because you're a Hindu. As far as I know Hindus aren't allowed to eat meat. Pls correct me if I'm wrong.

You asked Scarface how he typed French with no errors. I realize the question is for him, but I don't know what you mean.
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: Vasudev on November 05, 2015, 07:21 AM
@Vasu - I was under the impression you stopped eating meat because you're a Hindu. As far as I know Hindus aren't allowed to eat meat. Pls correct me if I'm wrong.

You asked Scarface how he typed French with no errors. I realize the question is for him, but I don't know what you mean.
Nah, if you belong to brahmin(which comes under Hindu religion) in simple words: Those who offer pujas to Gods aren't allowed to eat meat,onion & garlic. I don't belong to that sect. Normally my daily routine was to have 4-5 meat pieces each day.
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: humbert on November 05, 2015, 05:26 PM
Nah, if you belong to brahmin(which comes under Hindu religion) in simple words: Those who offer pujas to Gods aren't allowed to eat meat,onion & garlic. I don't belong to that sect. Normally my daily routine was to have 4-5 meat pieces each day.

First, if you feel these questions should be moved to another topic, please go ahead and move them.

Then only Brahmins offer pujas to gods? Other castes don't and can therefore eat meat? You told me what your caste was. I looked it up and you were way up there, maybe not as high as a Brahmin.

I keep seeing on National Geographic countless pictures of sacred cows walking the streets. If indeed this is true and if eating meat is OK for non-Brahmins, then how is it those cows haven't been eaten?

Meat 4-5 times a day is a lot! Unhealthy at those quantities.
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: Vasudev on November 06, 2015, 08:31 AM
Nah, if you belong to brahmin(which comes under Hindu religion) in simple words: Those who offer pujas to Gods aren't allowed to eat meat,onion & garlic. I don't belong to that sect. Normally my daily routine was to have 4-5 meat pieces each day.

Then only Brahmins offer pujas to gods? Other castes don't and can therefore eat meat? You told me what your caste was. I looked it up and you were way up there, maybe not as high as a Brahmin.

I keep seeing on National Geographic countless pictures of sacred cows walking the streets. If indeed this is true and if eating meat is OK for non-Brahmins, then how is it those cows haven't been eaten?

Meat 4-5 times a day is a lot! Unhealthy at those quantities.
Those who Offer pujas inside a temple aren't allowed to eat said things.
At my place, people eat beaf, according to holy scriptures, cow shouldn't be killed because its seen as a  deity.
Its Unhealthly I know, but when you walk around 1-2km everyday you need that quantity. Mind you, even after eating so much, I am slim as ever bo fat deposit whatsoever(pun intended).
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: scarface on November 07, 2015, 05:14 AM
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@scarface:How do you type french w/o any errors?
It's just a question of habit.
The article in French was a copied/pasted of a report found in a newspaper. Generally speaking, French is a complex language and it's particularly difficult to master the accents and the gender/number agreements. In English as well as French, a letter s is added in the plural (une orange, des oranges), but there are many exceptions (un cheval, des chevaux)
The spelling checker can distinguish misspelled words, but not the grammar errors.

We have seen that eating eggs regularly was dangerous. Vasudev did not precise it, but of course we assumed he was talking about chicken eggs and not about lumpfish roe (the word "oeufs" is used in both cases in French)
(https://i.ibb.co/MD1vKVz/poule.jpg)
(http://www.dompetroff.fr/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/140304-pack-lompe-ld.jpg)
While egg yolks and liver contain large amounts of cholesterol, many foods like fruit, vegetables, and fish are quite low in cholesterol.
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: Vasudev on November 07, 2015, 07:40 AM
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@scarface:How do you type french w/o any errors?
It's just a question of habit.
The article in French was a copied/pasted of a report found in a newspaper. Generally speaking, French is a complex language and it's particularly difficult to master the accents and the gender/number agreements. In English as well as French, a letter s is added in the plural (une orange, des oranges), but there are many exceptions (un cheval, des chevaux)
The spelling checker can distinguish misspelled words, but not the grammar errors.

We have seen that eating eggs regularly was dangerous. Vasudev did not precise it, but of course we assumed he was talking about chicken eggs and not about lumpfish roe (the word "oeufs" is used in both cases in French)
(https://i.ibb.co/MD1vKVz/poule.jpg)
(http://www.dompetroff.fr/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/140304-pack-lompe-ld.jpg)
While egg yolks and liver contain large amounts of cholesterol, many foods like fruit, vegetables, and fish are quite low in cholesterol.
of course, only chicken eggs btw i also eat fish and green leafy veggies.
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: humbert on November 07, 2015, 01:44 PM
At my place, people eat beaf, according to holy scriptures, cow shouldn't be killed because its seen as a  deity.
Its Unhealthly I know, but when you walk around 1-2km everyday you need that quantity.

Then it is that the bovine specie that is slaughtered for food is not the same than the one that walks around in the street, and scriptures identify that specie as the diety?

Walking 1-2 km a day is not very much. I walk 3-4 km every morning for exercise, not to mention my movements the rest of the day.

Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: Vasudev on November 08, 2015, 10:04 AM
At my place, people eat beaf, according to holy scriptures, cow shouldn't be killed because its seen as a  deity.
Its Unhealthly I know, but when you walk around 1-2km everyday you need that quantity.

Then it is that the bovine specie that is slaughtered for food is not the same than the one that walks around in the street, and scriptures identify that specie as the diety?

Walking 1-2 km a day is not very much. I walk 3-4 km every morning for exercise, not to mention my movements the rest of the day.
Its very difficult to distinguish between those meats, sometime it could be a cow or an ox. I never tasted a beef but my relative at my place love 'em.
I know, and you need to listen to lectures too, which is tiring. It is just an approx. calculation given by my phone which tracks these things.
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: scarface on June 11, 2016, 03:38 PM
In this topic, we have seen that Vasudev eat eggs, and probably everyone on this forum does. Well, except me. Not only because the yolk of eggs contains cholesterol. It's also because in France most eggs come from intensive farming, they are not very good, and the documentaries showing the life conditions of chickens in the factory farming are rather explicit.
Here is a video showing a factory farming of 200 000 chickens in the Ain department, between Lyon and Geneva. This video sparked outrage and the factory was shut down. Before that, the eggs of the 200 000 chickens crammed into the cages were sold in supermarkets: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AJfhZDjrzc
As far as Vasudev is concerned, I assume Indians are eating good eggs. I imagine some chickens and sheep chirping and bleating in his house, between his computer and the laying nest. A perfect household.
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: humbert on June 14, 2016, 11:49 AM
I also hold out hope that some day the enslavement of non-human animals will end forever. Sadly there's a problem with this -- the simple fact that the human digestive system is basically the digestive system of a carnivore, not a herbivore. Getting all the necessary protein from plant-based products alone is difficult if not impossible. Since we are not equipped with multi-chambered rumin stomachs, digesting the majority of plant-based products is impossible.

For many years I've proposed that humans begin eating insects. They're packed with protein, easy to raise, and represent a virtually inexhaustible food source. Many species can be cooked and prepared in such a way as to really taste good. For example, in the Colombian department of Santander (see map), there is a specie of ant they fry and add salt. During my visits to that region I've eaten bags and bags of fried ants, and they're delicious! On this planet, almost 75% of all animals are insects. The untapped potential is vast!
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: scarface on March 19, 2019, 02:29 PM
Tonight, I’m going to hold a conference about a particular type of food.

You have to look carefully at the picture below and answer the following question: What kind of food is it ?

(https://i.ibb.co/4NFKH4X/20190307-005946.jpg)

I can send one lump to Maher if he wants. But Since the first image of the topic was showing a donkey saucisson, he must be thinking that it is an expired donkey saucisson. It doesn't really look good. What if I wanted to poison him?

Therefore, knowing what kind of food it is becomes an existential question. I assume that Vasudev and usmangujjar are currently reading Kant’s books to find the answer.
So I’m going to give you one clue: when we go to Palestine with humbert, shadow.97, aa1234479 and Vasudev, we’ll problably make that kind of food.
I already imagine humbert and Maher breeding the goats,  aa1234779 and Vasudev making the final product. You'll have the answer later.
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: Shadow.97 on March 20, 2019, 01:05 AM
Tonight, I’m going to hold a conference about a particular type of food.

You have to look carefully at the picture below and answer the following question: What kind of food is it ?

(https://i.ibb.co/4NFKH4X/20190307-005946.jpg)

I can send one lump to Maher if he wants. But Since the first image of the topic was showing a donkey saucisson, he must be thinking that it is an expired donkey saucisson. It doesn't really look good. What if I wanted to poison him?

Therefore, knowing what kind of food it is becomes an existential question. I assume that Vasudev and usmangujjar are currently reading Kant’s books to find the answer.
So I’m going to give you one clue: when we go to Palestine with humbert, shadow.97, aa1234479 and Vasudev, we’ll problably make that kind of food.
I already imagine humbert and Maher breeding the goats,  aa1234779 and Vasudev making the final product. You'll have the answer later.

My guess is either:
Goat cheese.
Or squid?
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: scarface on March 20, 2019, 05:16 AM
My guess is either:
Goat cheese.
Or squid?
I guess you figured it out. it is goat cheese. It was a hard question but it seems cheese holds no secret for you.
But I'm a biz puzzled by the second answer. This quality cheese doesnt look viscous, and I hope you meant no blasphemy.
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: scarface on March 22, 2019, 07:16 AM
Since shadow.97 talked about squid, I'll hold a conference titled "how to cook squid" during the week end.
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: aa1234779 on March 23, 2019, 09:32 PM
This is the most popular way of cooking rice in Arabia

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSwphBKT3l-5OGEAfS9phfT5K977pin4uafHZT9HG09Go-itAHuTg)

It's called Kabsah

I wish I could invite you guys & gals one day to eat with me this delicious dish.

My challenge: What kind of meat is it?
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: Shadow.97 on March 23, 2019, 09:43 PM
This is the most popular way of cooking rice in Arabia

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSwphBKT3l-5OGEAfS9phfT5K977pin4uafHZT9HG09Go-itAHuTg)

It's called Kabsah

I wish I could invite you guys & gals one day to eat with me this delicious dish.

My challenge: What kind of meat is it?
Chicken?
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: aa1234779 on March 23, 2019, 10:23 PM
not even close  :D
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: Vasudev on March 24, 2019, 01:35 AM
not even close  :D
Mutton or lamb, correct? Rice is cooked with chicken stock, I ate it few weeks ago!
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: scarface on March 24, 2019, 04:33 AM
It's called Kabsah

I wish I could invite you guys & gals one day to eat with me this delicious dish.

My challenge: What kind of meat is it?

It doesn’t look like Poultry meat indeed. (My favorite meat is duck breast).
And it’s a bit too redish to be pork. I’m pretty sure you don’t eat that kind of meat anyway.
Therefore, I would say it’s veal with rice. Now what kind of part is it? It doesn’t look like grilled veal liver seasoned with parsley, instead, it looks like spring veal sauté, the one that combines small chunks of veal with spring onions in a white-wine sauce with just a dash of cream.

Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: aa1234779 on March 24, 2019, 04:48 AM
Nope. Unfortunately, you are all wrong.

I won't keep you guessing.

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170503/cd6872400b283303c2eb297377122086.jpg)

It's these beautiful special creatures.

Camels provide lean, tasty, and healthy meat.

(https://modo3.com/thumbs/fit630x300/145435/1479664500/%D9%85%D8%A7_%D9%81%D8%A7%D8%A6%D8%AF%D8%A9_%D8%AD%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%A8_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%A8%D9%84.jpg)

Also, female camel milk is amazing.
I used to get 2 liters free every few days, fresh and unpasteurized.
What might surprise you is not just the unique sweet/salty taste, but the somnolence that takes over you & makes you just want to sleep.
From my experience, if you ever want to try camel milk, find a female that had only given birth once, trust me.
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: Shadow.97 on March 24, 2019, 02:04 PM
Nope. Unfortunately, you are all wrong.

I won't keep you guessing.

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170503/cd6872400b283303c2eb297377122086.jpg)

It's these beautiful special creatures.

Camels provide lean, tasty, and healthy meat.

(https://modo3.com/thumbs/fit630x300/145435/1479664500/%D9%85%D8%A7_%D9%81%D8%A7%D8%A6%D8%AF%D8%A9_%D8%AD%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%A8_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%A8%D9%84.jpg)

Also, female camel milk is amazing.
I used to get 2 liters free every few days, fresh and unpasteurized.
What might surprise you is not just the unique sweet/salty taste, but the somnolence that takes over you & makes you just want to sleep.
From my experience, if you ever want to try camel milk, find a female that had only given birth once, trust me.

I do believe you on the last row 'From my experience, if you ever want to try camel milk, find a female that had only given birth once, trust me.'
It's the same with Cow.

I was given twice in my life a certain dish that is made from the first Cow milk that was produced after the cow had only given birth once.
It's one of the best things I can remember, in terms of food.
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: Vasudev on March 25, 2019, 01:42 AM
Nope. Unfortunately, you are all wrong.

I won't keep you guessing.

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170503/cd6872400b283303c2eb297377122086.jpg)

It's these beautiful special creatures.

Camels provide lean, tasty, and healthy meat.

(https://modo3.com/thumbs/fit630x300/145435/1479664500/%D9%85%D8%A7_%D9%81%D8%A7%D8%A6%D8%AF%D8%A9_%D8%AD%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%A8_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%A8%D9%84.jpg)

Also, female camel milk is amazing.
I used to get 2 liters free every few days, fresh and unpasteurized.
What might surprise you is not just the unique sweet/salty taste, but the somnolence that takes over you & makes you just want to sleep.
From my experience, if you ever want to try camel milk, find a female that had only given birth once, trust me.
I heard Camel meat is tasty and I always thought it was only for rich arabs who buy them for special occasions.
Can I ask you something? Can a male camel give milk when you specifically said female camel milk? I think only females can secrete milk because of their.. .. you know what I'm saying. I don't want to offend females. I lose my mind when I speak about science and often people around me look offended or throw up when I talk about Biology and personal stuffs related to mammalian species.
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: scarface on March 25, 2019, 12:40 PM
Well, concerning the dromedary meat, I would not have thought of that.
But I guess that Arabian camels are valuable for the Bedouins of the desert. They must use them to reach Makkah. They might not eat such meat every day.

I have a technical question concerning the movie "when pigs have wings"for the scholars who are speaking Arabic fluently.
In Arabic, the usual word for pork is "halouf". But I noticed that the main character is using the word "hinzir". Is this a common word? Do they have the same meaning?
In French the word "porc" is generally used for the meat while "cochon" is used as the generic term for the pig.
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: aa1234779 on March 26, 2019, 05:32 PM
I heard Camel meat is tasty and I always thought it was only for rich arabs who buy them for special occasions.
Can I ask you something? Can a male camel give milk when you specifically said female camel milk? I think only females can secrete milk because of their.. .. you know what I'm saying. I don't want to offend females. I lose my mind when I speak about science and often people around me look offended or throw up when I talk about Biology and personal stuffs related to mammalian species.

Camel meat is surely great tasting. It costs around 45-50 riyals.. around 13$ a kilo.
As to male Camels, no they don't give milk.  ;D
That's exactly the reason I said female Camel milk..
The word Camel refers to a male (Jamal).. The female in Arabic is called a Nagah.
If an Arab says Camel milk, people usually laugh at him/her for the obvious and gross unintended pun. ;D
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: aa1234779 on March 26, 2019, 06:02 PM
I have a technical question concerning the movie "when pigs have wings"for the scholars who are speaking Arabic fluently.
In Arabic, the usual word for pork is "halouf". But I noticed that the main character is using the word "hinzir". Is this a common word? Do they have the same meaning?
In French the word "porc" is generally used for the meat while "cochon" is used as the generic term for the pig.

Khinzeer is the true Arabic word for pig or swine. Khanazeer is the plural. Halouf is modern slang.
It's in the Quran:
Say, "I do not find within that which was revealed to me [anything] forbidden to one who would eat it unless it be a dead animal or blood spilled out or the flesh of swine - for indeed, it is impure - or it be [that slaughtered in] disobedience, dedicated to other than Allah . But whoever is forced [by necessity], neither desiring [it] nor transgressing [its limit], then indeed, your Lord is Forgiving and Merciful."
6:125

The prophet (peace be upon him) also spoke of it:
"The son of Mary will soon descend among you and will judge justly: he will break the cross and kill the pig"
(Narrated by Al-Bukhari)

As to "When Pigs Fly"
I always had kids in the states telling me "Do pigs fly in Saudi Arabia"
Arabs have a similar metaphor referring to the impossible
The say "When cows come to Hajj on their horns" :)
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: scarface on March 26, 2019, 07:00 PM
Khinzeer is the true Arabic word for pig or swine. Khanazeer is the plural. Halouf is modern slang.
It's in the Quran:
Say, "I do not find within that which was revealed to me [anything] forbidden to one who would eat it unless it be a dead animal or blood spilled out or the flesh of swine - for indeed, it is impure - or it be [that slaughtered in] disobedience, dedicated to other than Allah . But whoever is forced [by necessity], neither desiring [it] nor transgressing [its limit], then indeed, your Lord is Forgiving and Merciful."
6:125
Thanks for these explanations. Thanks to you I'll be able to speak Arabic pretty soon.

The prophet (peace be upon him) also spoke of it:
"The son of Mary will soon descend among you and will judge justly: he will break the cross and kill the pig"
(Narrated by Al-Bukhari)
I knew that he walked on water and rose from the dead, but I didn't know he killed a pig. This event might not be present in the bible. But maybe it's not a miracle.
I don't know who this Al-Bukhari is, but I remember I heard this name in a debate about Islam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1BsWcrju1E
Apparently Karim al Hanafi got himself in a tough situation confronting a specialist like Odon Lafontaine, who wrote a book about Islam.
It's in French, but you might understand it more than I did.
Note that a certain Majid was afraid to debate with Karim: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_dSj8Dio4U
However, feel free to contact Karim, I like watching interesting debates. If you are swearing in Arabic, I might be able to understand, otherwise English subtitles will be needed.
Note that I don't know if Karim Al Hanifi speaks Arabic since he's a convert to Islam but I guess that aa1234779 knows Islam so well that it's preferable if you don't understand each other.
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: aa1234779 on March 27, 2019, 12:03 AM
I'm not a specialist in debates even though I know my religion to a certain degree, the Quran & the sayings of Muhammad (peace be upon him) which are narrated in books such as that compiled by Al-Bukhari which is the most correct book after the Quran.
Then comes the book compiled by Imam Muslim, then 4 other books which vary in correctness.
Many scholars have figured out the correctness of many Hadiths (sayings) through studying the life of thousands of narrators.
It's something I like to describe as spontaneous 'Intelligence work' in the first 3 centuries after the Prophet.
Coming back to debates.
I saw a minute of the video.
The Muslim guy's body language says he's very nervous.
Unfortunately, my knowledge of French is very bad.
I took 2 French courses in the University in order to graduate in an English bachelors degree.
Good for me, it was a summer semester and I was one of two students in that class.
I befriended the professor who was also the head of the European languages section.
I barely passed with a 65 & a 60.
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: scarface on March 27, 2019, 04:32 PM
Actually, I'm going to explain the main thesis of Olaf about Islam, which is quite interesting. Of course, it subject of disagreement.

Very intrigued by Islam, Olaf (a nickname) sought to know it. During his reading of the Qur'an, the biography of Muhammad (Ibn Hicham's sira), the discovery of Islamic discourse and discussions with Muslims, he could not prevent the rise of a feeling of unease and misunderstanding of this religion as he discovered what was for him contradictions. To try to explain them, he wanted to learn more about the historical origins of Islam.

Thus he discovered the work of Father Edouard-Marie Gallez, Doctor of Theology and History of Religions, and met him. His thesis, titled The Messiah and His Prophet and our Exchanges made him discover a lot of exciting historical research. Like everyone else, Olaf had learnt Muslim history at school, the story of a desert prophet who transformed the world through the revelation of the Qur'an. The reading of "Al-sīra", the Islamic biography of Muhammad, had already relativized this soft version of a preacher of peace. But this research has transformed his vision of Islam, revealing him a different story than the ambient discourse wants to make believe: Islam is not the result of a divine revelation - or the mere preaching of Muhammad - but that of a very long and very complex process of rewriting history, rooted in some of the denatured Jewish and Christian ideas that prevailed in late-6th-century Syria (what scholars call "the Late Antiquity"), a process manipulated by the first Muslim rulers to satisfy their aims of political domination.

This discovery remained to this day almost unknown to the public. The fault probably lies in the complexity of the subject and its very sensitive nature, which has confined it to narrow circles of research. How then to make it accessible to the greatest number? This is what Olaf hopes to contribute with the Great Secret of Islam, fruit of a long personal work and his collaboration with Edouard-Marie Gallez. This little book presents itself as a historical perspective and a development of the main results achieved by this researcher, based on the work of the impressive cohort of researchers on which it is based.
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: scarface on March 28, 2019, 02:52 PM
Note that the recipe of the squid and beans with shallot and white wine sauce will take place during the week end.
First photo here:
(https://i.ibb.co/g9K8sJs/20190328-204012.jpg)
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: scarface on April 06, 2019, 08:35 AM
Today, I'm going to disclose the recipe of the gratin dauphinois with pure pork saucisson in a white wine sauce.


In a large nonstick pan, heat butter over medium heat with white wine. Add potatoes and shallot; cook and stir 20 minutes.
(https://i.ibb.co/PrCRzJp/20190406-124136.jpg)

If there is no more wine, don’t hesitate to put more in.
(https://i.ibb.co/hsRWGN6/20190406-130217.jpg)

When it’s ready add grated gruyere cheese on the sauteed potatoes, and arrange the slices of saucisson. The pure pork saucisson must be French, if you see EU on the package without other indication, it means that it’s probably old pork meat coming from Poland or Bulgaria. If you don’t like saucisson, you can put some Italian coppa or some high quality lomo embuchado from Spain (which is cured pork tenderloin left whole and virtually untouched in the curing process).
(https://i.ibb.co/FVDFr69/20190406-133329.jpg)


Note that if you want this recipe to become a bit more Islamic, you can replace the pork meat with the camel meat of aa1234779.
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: scarface on April 11, 2019, 11:15 AM
I see that panzer24 is on the forum. I was thinking about him since I'm going to disclose the recipe of the couscous.
I was thinking he was English or Swedish because he speaks English very well, but maybe it's a cliché since he told us he was from Tunisia.
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: humbert on April 12, 2019, 09:44 PM
Today, I'm going to disclose the recipe of the gratin dauphinois with pure pork saucisson in a white wine sauce.

That small gas stove you have. How does it ignite the gas? Do you have to use a match, or does it have some sort of pilot like a water heater?


Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: scarface on April 13, 2019, 05:41 AM
Quote from: humbert link=topic=3197.msg30230#msg30230
That small gas stove you have. How does it ignite the gas? Do you have to use a match, or does it have some sort of pilot like a water heater?
Actually, it does not require matches, it's an auto-ignition gas stove, an electronic lighter is integrated in the burner setup.
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: scarface on April 13, 2019, 05:44 AM
Tonight, I’m going to disclose the recipe of the couscous. Panzer24 and aa1234779 probably know it already. But cooking a good couscous is a task that shoud not be taken lightly.

Couscous is a North African dish made from tiny steamed balls of semolina flour. Though we think of it and cook it as a grain, couscous is actually a type of pasta.
First and foremost, bring the cooking liquid to a boil in a medium pot. Add a drizzle of olive oil, a pad of butter, and a little salt. Then add the couscous.
(https://i.ibb.co/DYj48ww/20190411-204754.jpg)

Take the pan off the heat, cover, and let the couscous steam for 5 minutes.
When you lift the lid, the grains will appear flat in an even layer. Use a fork to fluff it up and break up the clumps for light and fluffy couscous.
(https://i.ibb.co/QYtLLDS/20190411-205342.jpg)

Now heat a large skillet over medium-high heat. Add oil to pan. Pour the side dish into the skillet; cook a few minutes or until done.
(https://i.ibb.co/c2wNNPW/20190411-205914.jpg)

When it’s over, you can also pour some lemon juice on the couscous. Then you can mix the side dish with it.

(https://i.ibb.co/hK8r1qS/boulaouane.jpg)
For the wine, I recommend a Boulaouane bottle, a red wine from Morocco. Morocco is considered to have the best natural potential for producing quality wines, due to its high mountains and cooling influence of the Atlantic, as these factors offset the risk of having too hot vineyards.
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: humbert on April 14, 2019, 10:15 PM
Seems like an awful lot of food for just you. Are you living alone or do you have a visitor?
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: scarface on April 15, 2019, 06:22 AM
Seems like an awful lot of food for just you. Are you living alone or do you have a visitor?
It's a good question indeed. As far as this dish is concerned, I ate it alone. Maher and aa1234779 were not here. Had it not been for the forum, I would not have prepared this enormous meal. Note that I don't eat usually much at noon.
today: http://imgur.com/a/MNQhQY3
In my opinion this couscous is a dietary meal, enhanced by quality wine, and it's probably healthier than a mcdonald.
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: scarface on April 15, 2019, 12:40 PM
in terms of calories, we must recognize that humbert is right, it's not healthy to eat a big couscous every day. At least not that big. If I did that, I would end up like monsieur gorilla.
I calculated that the couscous above contained roughly 1100 calories. But for somebody who is playing a sport, it's just half of the daily caloric needs.
Now let's see the calories in the mcdonald's "burgers".

The small hamburger
(https://img.static-rmg.be/a/view/q75/w/h450/1683588/hamburger-254-kcal.png)
254 Calories.

The Filet-o-fish
(https://img.static-rmg.be/a/view/q75/w/h450/1683584/filet-o-fish-333-kcal.png)
333 Calories

The Maestro glorious giorgio
(https://img.static-rmg.be/a/view/q75/w/h450/1956676/giorgio-png.png)
762 Calories

Well, I'm not sure that you can find the small burger in the USA. But now if you take a supersize menu, things are different:
First, the drink. A Supersize Coke comes in a 42-ounce cup (1.25 liter!) and, according to McDonald's, is supposed to contain 410 calories.
Now for the french fries: The Supersize serving, according to McDonald's' own guidelines, is supposed to be 7 ounces and contain 610 calories and 29 grams of fat -- or about half of your daily recommended fat intake. The "large" is less than 1 ounce smaller -- 6.2 ounces -- and contains 540 calories and 26 grams of fat.
Now for the burger: What about the Double Quarter Pounder with cheese, which contains 770 calories and 47 grams of fat? Or the Spanish Omelette Bagel, which has 710 calories and 40 grams of fat?
If we are totalling the number of calories, the menu is reaching 410+610+770=1790 calories. I guess that humbert or aa1234779 are not eating mcdonald's supersize menu every day. They would be at the Pere Lachaise otherwise.
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: scarface on April 16, 2019, 06:41 AM
Today, I'm eating a "petite tourte chèvre courgette". I wanted to reassure humbert since he was afraid I might be eating too much.
http://imgur.com/a/SnAMRKe
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: humbert on April 16, 2019, 10:20 PM
Today, I'm eating a "petite tourte chèvre courgette". I wanted to reassure humbert since he was afraid I might be eating too
much.

The food you showed in the picture appeared to be quite a lot. Maybe you weren't planning to eat part of it and put the rest in the refrigerator to eat it later. Maybe you had a sexy babe visiting you and you were planning to eat her first, and then share the meal. ;)

Oh, and before I forget, remember that there are calories in and calories out. You might eat a lot (in), but a the same time you might do quite a bit of walking or other physical activity (out). If everything is more or less balanced, you're in business.
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: scarface on April 19, 2019, 05:53 AM
Note that I'm going to reveal another secret on the forum: the recipe  of the cheese fondue with potatoes.
Title: Re: What kind of meat it is
Post by: scarface on April 19, 2019, 01:55 PM
I'm going to reveal the recipe of the duck breast with rice in a  nice white wine sauce with shallot (The recipe of the fondue with potatoes will be presented next time).
I'm on vacation for a week so it's a dinner party.

Here is the first photo. Look how beautiful the duck breast is.
(https://i.ibb.co/cNt4q9s/20190419-203154.jpg)