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UPDATE: Maxthon Added

My favorite is Firefox, after it, it'll be Chrome.

I trust Firefox for its name and I haven't faced any problem with it yet.

Regarding surfing speed, [on my own internet and customizations], I find that Firefox is the fastest in browsing speed, but Chrome is lighter and starts faster.

Regarding stability, I didn't use Chrome enough to judge.

yeah, Most Of The Professionals Use FireFox Too.

Quote from: The Nawab on August 14, 2012, 05:34 PM
yeah, Most Of The Professionals Use FireFox Too.

I totally agree. I haven't seen anything better than Firefox or that even comes close.

I have 2 beefs with Google Chrome: (1) It's nowhere near as configurable and has maybe 10% of the add-ons FF has, and (2) it's speed is due to the simple fact that it caches everything. Every night when my wife (who prefers Chrome) cleans her system with Ccleaner, it indicates that Chrome left behind some 400 MB of garbage - and there's simply no way to change that.

+1 to Firefox :D

Maxthon :p fast, new, and uses chrome's fast engine and can also use IE's site's as it got comp ability for it (My school website is IE only)
After Maxthon Firefox.
Biggest reason i use Maxthon now is because of Fear.FM and the funny + easy options

Cool Choice, @humbert And @BLADESHARK.

@Shadow.97, Maxthon Added :D

Quote from: Shadow.97 on August 15, 2012, 02:26 PM
Maxthon :p fast, new, and uses chrome's fast engine and can also use IE's site's as it got comp ability for it (My school website is IE only)
After Maxthon Firefox.
Biggest reason i use Maxthon now is because of Fear.FM and the funny + easy options

Are you using Maxthon 3? I used to use Maxthon 1.xx because it was very lean and efficient. Then with M3 they filled it with all kinds of bloat. Let me ask you - is it possible to use only the bloat you want and disable the one you don't? Are there add-ons available for download like in Firefox? Also, what happens if you log onto your school's website using any browser that doesn't use the IE engine like Maxthon does?

Been using chrome & firefox... Wow! This is the first time I've "heard" of Maxthon, might give it a try...

Quote from: humbert on August 17, 2012, 05:27 AM

Quote from: Shadow.97 on August 15, 2012, 02:26 PM
Maxthon :p fast, new, and uses chrome's fast engine and can also use IE's site's as it got comp ability for it (My school website is IE only)
After Maxthon Firefox.
Biggest reason i use Maxthon now is because of Fear.FM and the funny + easy options

Are you using Maxthon 3? I used to use Maxthon 1.xx because it was very lean and efficient. Then with M3 they filled it with all kinds of bloat. Let me ask you - is it possible to use only the bloat you want and disable the one you don't? Are there add-ons available for download like in Firefox? Also, what happens if you log onto your school's website using any browser that doesn't use the IE engine like Maxthon does?

When i enter the school's website, just text appears some of the links/IE programs are broken and cannot be used.
And Bloat? Haven't noticed honestly if it is on the tab to the left you can disable it and you can also remove the bar to the left if it suits you. Also there are alot of addons though as the Maxthon community isn't as big as FireFox's it does not have close to the same amount of Addons. And Yes i use the "Latest" Maxthon3 I dont use the Beta currently.

Guys, Check This Out:- http://www.nomaher.com/forum/index.php?topic=758.0

Firefox + Chrome, that's my choice.

Join the katana, never heared about Maxton before. I'll try it, just to know what the "heck" it is.  :)

Quote from: Daniil on August 17, 2012, 05:19 PM
Firefox + Chrome, that's my choice.

Join the katana, never heared about Maxton before. I'll try it, just to know what the "heck" it is.  :)

haha, i have only 2 "mayor" problems, 1 it is made for x86.. (32bit java limitation) + sometimes when i play Battlefield 3 fullscreen the browser turns black, then i just drag it down and up and its fixed.

Quote from: Shadow.97 on August 19, 2012, 07:28 PM
haha, i have only 2 "mayor" problems, 1 it is made for x86.. (32bit java limitation) + sometimes when i play Battlefield 3 fullscreen the browser turns black, then i just drag it down and up and its fixed.

I'm confused. Aren't all browsers for x86 (i.e., 32bit)? As far as I know the only 64bit browser is IE64, which nobody uses.

Incidentally, as we all know sooner or later Firefox, like everything else, will also have to go 64bit. I'm just thinking of the nightmare involved in porting over the thousands of extensions.

im sure chrome is available for 64.

(http://cdn.portableapps.com/IronPortable_128.png)

Iron. My choice of browser these days + FF/Tor

@topdog,

Saw That. Seemed To Be Very Interesting As Based On A Chromium Project.

I didnt love iron when i tried it.. Though i cant remember why

(http://i.imgur.com/MeLVX.jpg)

Amazed, huh?

I've been using IE for life, tried every other browser, but never felt comfortable as I feel with IE.
It lacks lots of featuers other browsers has, but even though I only feel myself comfortable with IE.

PS: I added a poll to make things more interesting ;)

QuoteAmazed, huh?

I've been using IE for life, tried every other browser, but never felt comfortable as I feel with IE.
It lacks lots of featuers other browsers has, but even though I only feel myself comfortable with IE.

My Doctor Sister, Who Had A Lot Interest In Computers During College Also Loved IE. I Never Understood Why.

Quote from: The Nawab on August 22, 2012, 02:10 PM

QuoteAmazed, huh?

I've been using IE for life, tried every other browser, but never felt comfortable as I feel with IE.
It lacks lots of featuers other browsers has, but even though I only feel myself comfortable with IE.

My Doctor Sister, Who Had A Lot Interest In Computers During College Also Loved IE. I Never Understood Why.

I have a friend who always used I.E and i asked him why he didn't use another browser he simply said "I know the menu's and i know where my history is" i never got an answer when i asked why he didn't imported the data o_o

Quote from: Shadow.97 on August 22, 2012, 11:43 PM
I have a friend who always used I.E and i asked him why he didn't use another browser he simply said "I know the menu's and i know where my history is" i never got an answer when i asked why he didn't imported the data o_o

I don't blame you a bit. IE is very user unfriendly and very often does things by itself in a way that you don't know what it's doing nor have any control.

Incidentally, if you must use IE for something and want Maxthon as a secondary browser when IE becomes necessary, check out the portable version at portableapps.com (http://portableapps.com). Not only is Maxthon on tap for download, but there's a bunch of cool utilities you might want to check out. What I love about them is precisely that they're portable and won't mess with your registry or general setup. You can also put them on a USB drive and use them anywhere. If you don't like them, all you do is delete the directory they're in - as simple as that. There is no uninstall file anywhere, nor is one needed.

Just one thing - don't install them to C:\Program Files or C:\Program Files(x86) but rather to a separate directory on any drive you have (C: will work) and just create a shortcut.

Quote from: The Nawab on August 22, 2012, 02:10 PM

QuoteAmazed, huh?

I've been using IE for life, tried every other browser, but never felt comfortable as I feel with IE.
It lacks lots of featuers other browsers has, but even though I only feel myself comfortable with IE.

My Doctor Sister, Who Had A Lot Interest In Computers During College Also Loved IE. I Never Understood Why.

Since she has lots of interest in computers why don't you ask her join us :)

She Had. Now She's A Busy Doc.

Quote from: The Nawab on August 24, 2012, 12:22 PM
She Had. Now She's A Busy Doc.

Wish her good luck ;)

Sure! And I'll Definitely Ask Her To Join The Forum.

Quote from: The Nawab on August 22, 2012, 01:43 AM
@topdog,

Saw That. Seemed To Be Very Interesting As Based On A Chromium Project.

Yep. It's  Chromium based, almost identical to Chrome but without Chrome's  unique user ID so I don't have to run "Google Radar" or similar with it.
Unfortunately it doesn't have  an on-board Flash Player so  have had to re-install Adobe ( AFP from v 11 on chews up browsers on my pc ? so had to find an old version)
Also Iron has a  portable release and I didn't find any of the Chrome portables very good.
Main reason I prefer Chromium browsers is their layout and nothing to do with performance.
(Don't like Dragon, it's too security orientated, I had to change settings every time I wanted to do something new)

Quote from: topdog on August 22, 2012, 12:01 AM
(http://cdn.portableapps.com/IronPortable_128.png)

Iron. My choice of browser these days + FF/Tor

Is this the homepage of Iron browser?
http://www.srware.net/en/

Thanks.  :)

yep That's It.

Well yep, that's SRWare's home page and I'm sure everyone can find their way to the Iron page from there, but to make life easy here it is. http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php (http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php)

Thanks For Sharing The Link With Us!

Thanks, dear friends.  :)

Quote from: topdog on August 25, 2012, 08:52 PM
Yep. It's  Chromium based, almost identical to Chrome but without Chrome's  unique user ID so I don't have to run "Google Radar" or similar with it.
Unfortunately it doesn't have  an on-board Flash Player so  have had to re-install Adobe ( AFP from v 11 on chews up browsers on my pc ? so had to find an old version)
Also Iron has a  portable release and I didn't find any of the Chrome portables very good.
Main reason I prefer Chromium browsers is their layout and nothing to do with performance.
(Don't like Dragon, it's too security orientated, I had to change settings every time I wanted to do something new)

Does Iron have the vast library of add-ons Firefox has, or at least the most essential? How configurable is it? This morning I was looking at Chrome which is on the other computer, and one thing I noticed is how un-configurable it is. For example, I saw no way to adjust the cache, no way to convert the whole thing into private browsing (all you can do is surf "incognito", tab by tab), you can't make a link open in the same tab.. and so on and on and on. I detest non-configurable stuff simply because the default values are almost always set for morons who are clueless as to what's going on. All these reasons are why so far I haven't seen anything better than Firefox.

Quote from: humbert on August 28, 2012, 05:51 AM

Does Iron have the vast library of add-ons Firefox has, or at least the most essential? How configurable is it? This morning I was looking at Chrome which is on the other computer, and one thing I noticed is how un-configurable it is. For example, I saw no way to adjust the cache, no way to convert the whole thing into private browsing (all you can do is surf "incognito", tab by tab), you can't make a link open in the same tab.. and so on and on and on. I detest non-configurable stuff simply because the default values are almost always set for morons who are clueless as to what's going on. All these reasons are why so far I haven't seen anything better than Firefox.

No  SRWare Iron  doesn't have many extensions or add-on's, but uses Chrome's.

QuoteI detest non-configurable stuff simply because the default values are almost always set for morons who are clueless as to what's going on.

Lucky for me  ;D  ::) When it comes to computers, I am a moron.
Also there is only me using this pc and even if someone else was using it I don't  much care if friends or family can see were I've been and I use  AVG PC TuneUp and Eraser regularly.
Have I missed the point here ?
I really don't do much with computers, just upload, download, search for info, a little artwork and manage my eBook and music library's.
I'm sure that for people who know what they are doing then FF is a  much more useful browser (pretty much everyone I trust on tech matters says so), but for me Chromium seems to do what I need.  :)

Quote from: topdog on August 28, 2012, 07:41 AM
No  SRWare Iron  doesn't have many extensions or add-on's, but uses Chrome's.
Lucky for me  ;D  ::) When it comes to computers, I am a moron.
Also there is only me using this pc and even if someone else was using it I don't  much care if friends or family can see were I've been and I use  AVG PC TuneUp and Eraser regularly.
Have I missed the point here ?
I really don't do much with computers, just upload, download, search for info, a little artwork and manage my eBook and music library's.
I'm sure that for people who know what they are doing then FF is a  much more useful browser (pretty much everyone I trust on tech matters says so), but for me Chromium seems to do what I need.  :)

My use of the word "moron" wasn't right - the word is much too derogatory. Perhaps a much better term such as "computer challenged" is better. :)

You are NOT a moron, in fact not even close. What's more, there are no morons on this forum - not because someone throws them out, but because they themselves don't come back. They are allergic to learning or otherwise finding better ways to do things. Everything you've posted indicates to me that you are very computer literate.

As for browsers, I can't speak for Iron but I will tell you that my main beef with Chrome is it's lack of configurabilty. However, I am also the first one to tell you that in certain applications you'd probably be better off with it than with Firefox. My favorite example is Facebook IF you play their games. No matter how fast your internet speed might be, clearly Facebook is deficient on both bandwidth and server capacity due to it's high number of users. Here it makes sense to have a humongous cache so you won't have to keep asking the server to keep sending you all those game graphics over and over again. All it sends is basically what changed, the rest resides in cache. This is why people often report it's a fast browser. Indeed, very night when my old lady uses Ccleaner, it cleans out around 400 MB of Chrome cache. My cleanout cache with Firefox comes nowhere close.

Quote from: humbert on August 30, 2012, 07:13 AM
. . . . You are NOT a moron,  . . . .
. . . .  Indeed, very night when my old lady uses Ccleaner, it cleans out around 400 MB of Chrome cache. My cleanout cache with Firefox comes nowhere close.

So, OK maybe I'm not a moron, perhaps old duffer is closer  ;D

What I would like to know is why is it necessary to use Ccleaner or some such to clear one's cache, I use the browsers "clear browsing history" a couple or so times a day plus AVG PC TuneUp every 4 or 5 days, is that not good enough ?
Plus from using Chrome I got into the habit of saving my bookmarks and uninstalling my browser, then downloading another and am still doing it. (Was just being paranoid about the  "unique user ID" with Chrome)

Quote from: topdog on August 30, 2012, 02:51 PM
What I would like to know is why is it necessary to use Ccleaner or some such to clear one's cache, I use the browsers "clear browsing history" a couple or so times a day plus AVG PC TuneUp every 4 or 5 days, is that not good enough ?
Plus from using Chrome I got into the habit of saving my bookmarks and uninstalling my browser, then downloading another and am still doing it. (Was just being paranoid about the  "unique user ID" with Chrome)

Maybe it's just me being anal, but I'm one of these people who can't stand leaving stuff behind. I meticulously clean all caches, all history, call cookies, the registry, everything. I've been told that's not really necessary, but oh well... it's just me being me. At least my system runs OK.

Thanks for answering Humbert.

I was just trying to find out if the ways I clear browser cache are OK or if I could be doing it better.
Not questioning the wisdom of how you maintain your system. :-X

Proudly using chrome.

I heard chromium (chrome-based) is better in terms of privacy. Haven't tried it though.

Eh... Actually Chromium Is The Source Code Of Chrome. It Means That Chromium Is Used To Build Browsers. Examples:-

Chrome

Wowser

Iron

COMODO's Browser

@topdog
What I normally do is run Ccleaner and BleachBit after the day is done, and that pretty much takes care of all browser caches, history, cookies, etc. Keeping the system clean has resulted in very few problems for me. Naturally, if there's stuff you'd prefer to keep (such as some cookies or maybe history), Ccleaner and BleachBit can be configured accordingly. Naturally, I'm a strong believer in the concept that there's always a better way or the fact that I might not be doing what's best.

For those of you guys running any Chromium based browser other than Google Chrome, how configurable are they? For starters, is it possible for links to open in the same tab or to adjust the cache to your liking without having to do an about:config?

@humbert. :)

I saw you mentioned that I can control Cache in Firefox. I see that it's adjusted to Automatic in Firefox settings. What does Automatic means? Does this mean it's unlimited or what?
Because I never want to delete any cache because of the slow internet.

I also understood that I can limit the Cache size to a specific size, but what I want to ask about is that Auto means unlimited? As I want it like that. :)

Quote from: Ahmad on September 03, 2012, 03:08 AM
@humbert. :)
I saw you mentioned that I can control Cache in Firefox. I see that it's adjusted to Automatic in Firefox settings. What does Automatic means? Does this mean it's unlimited or what?
Because I never want to delete any cache because of the slow internet.
I also understood that I can limit the Cache size to a specific size, but what I want to ask about is that Auto means unlimited? As I want it like that. :)

Automatic simply means that Firefox decides how much cache is necessary and allocates space accordingly, maxing out at 1024 MB by default.  You can make it bigger or smaller as you so desire, which can't be done on Google Chrome. As I see it, not erasing cache makes perfect sense if you visit the same sites again and again so you won't have to keep re-downloading the same data. As I said once, Facebook games are a perfect example - lots of background game information and their servers are overloaded, not to even mention that your connection isn't the fastest there is.

A picture about comparing the browsers.  ;D

(https://i.ibb.co/WNrWRTw/sravnenie-brauzerov.jpg)

LOL good one  Daniil, I love it.

Especially the IE pic. ::)

I have a question for those of you who prefer Google Chrome. My wife has it on her computer and there are a few annoyances I'm wondering if they're possible to disable. If getting rid of them is indeed possible, I haven't found a way.

1) Is there any way to get Chrome to reuse the same tab as opposed to constantly opening new tabs for every click?

2) Is there a way to make what Google calls the "Incongito mode" permanent as opposed to doing it individually per tab? To put the question another way, is there a setting as in Firefox where you can simply enable private browsing and keep it that way?

3) Is there a way to use this thing without having to open a Google account nor create a situation where they can keep meticulous records of everything you do on their servers? In my case I find it unimaginable for Google to have detailed records not only of all the pr0n sites I've been to, but what my tastes are.

As I see it, if these things are impossible to disable, there is no chance in hell I'll ever use Chrome.

@ Humbert
Every installation of Chrome has a  unique user ID number, so even if you don't open a  Google account, every thing you do can be tracked.
Use SWIron instead, it's almost identical except for lacking  the UUID number,  built in Flash player and PDF reader.
For both Chrome and Iron you can open a new  Incongito window in toolbox or Ctrl+Sh+N  then close the original window and all tabs will be private. But you need to do it at the start of each session as far as I know

QuoteIs there any way to get Chrome to reuse the same tab as opposed to constantly opening new tabs for every click?

Sorry I don't understand this bit. It doesn't happen for me, most links open in the same tab if I right click them ? (well left click in my case).

Hey Topdog! Hadn't seen you in quite a while! Is it warming up in New Zealand or what?  :)

Thanks for the tip on Chrome and Chromium based browsers in general. I suppose I just need to talk about this business of tabs on Google Chrome. I don't know why this is, but on my wife's copy of Chrome which she uses for her Facebook games, no matter what I do I can't get any link to open in the same tab. I've looked all over the settings and haven't seen anything about this. As far as I know there is no extension such as Firefox's Tab Mix Plus that will give you more ways to configure tab-related matters. I might add that by default Firefox does the same thing, but you can easily configure that to your tastes. I'm thinking this situation is native to Google Chrome and doesn't affect other Chromium browsers such as Iron.

Has anyone out there given Opera a hard look? I've yet to test it, but from what I'm seeing it's almost another Firefox - configurable and with every add-on imaginable. I think if I ever get my laptop up and running I could test it there. I do know that on my Android-based tablet I was shocked to learn that, while Firefox's Windows and Linux version are great,  their Android version is pure garbage! Then I decided to give Opera a try on my tablet and it's the best browser I've seen yet - at least under any platform involving smartphones or tablets.

Well, if about a portable platform Opera, I can say a bit.
I am using a QTek S200 - an old and slow WinMob5 PDA/smartphone. (Well, maybe buy a modern Android tablet is the best solution, Android is a great OS... But old QTek is working, it has a HUGE accumulator and I now have a lack of money, so... I continue to use it.)

And on WinMob5 a default internet browser is a, damn, circumcised IE5! That is -  ??? -> :o -> a-a-a-a-a-argh! -> :o -> :P -> >:( -> :(
So, as fast as I can, I set up on PDA an Opera Mini for win mobile.
About it I can say that it's stable, easy to use (very like desktop one) but very slow (I'm waiting for loading it about a 40-50 seconds, but - QTek is really slow on 200 MHz...)

@Daniil - there is Opera for Windows as well as for Androids. I got the laptop back up and installed Opera. It's OK but, forget it - Firefox is better, at least on all PC versions.

Incidentally, when you mentioned WinMob5 as a circumcised IE5, I hope this is a positive comment. I'm saying this because everything I've read says many more women prefer circumcised guys to those that aren't - they say it's not just cleaner but far more beautiful. So -- those of you who live in northern Europe know what you've gotta do - those who live in the Middle East are OK.  :) ;D

Lol!  ;D
I read opposite women sayings, that circumcised guys looks like something is missing...  ;D Also, it's cold! ;D
(Didn't want to hurt or miff anyone...)

I started playing around with Google Chrome (v58+) and, after familiarizing myself with it and the available addons, I now believe it's better than Firefox and I've made it my primary browser. It's lightning fast as well as highly configurable. Let me address the issues I myself posted a while ago.

Quote from: humbert on November 23, 2012, 05:21 AM
1) Is there any way to get Chrome to reuse the same tab as opposed to constantly opening new tabs for every click?

Not directly but there's an addon called "Open Link in Same Tab" that takes care of the problem. Another addon called "Tab Activate" makes sure new tabs go directly into the foreground and not left in the background as is the case with the default setting.

Quote from: humbert on November 23, 2012, 05:21 AM
2) Is there a way to make what Google calls the "Incongito mode" permanent as opposed to doing it individually per tab? To put the question another way, is there a setting as in Firefox where you can simply enable private browsing and keep it that way?

Yes and no. Editing the shortcut to say "C:\....\chrome.exe -incognito" will start the browser in the incognito mode. All new tabs are incognito too. What I haven't been able to do is to open a link in incongnito unless I copy and paste it. In a second you'll see that this is not really an issue.

Quote from: humbert on November 23, 2012, 05:21 AM
3) Is there a way to use this thing without having to open a Google account nor create a situation where they can keep meticulous records of everything you do on their servers? In my case I find it unimaginable for Google to have detailed records not only of all the pr0n sites I've been to, but what my tastes are.

You don't need a Google account to use it and all sync can be totally disabled. There is an addon called "Click 'n Clean" which blows away all stored data, history, cookies and cache the moment you close the browser. If fact, it's not even necessary to close the browser to take out the garbage. Simply clicking the icon on the taskbar does the job.

Frankly this thing is great. If you're curious I invite you to download a portable version and play around with it. If you're not convinced, simply remove the folder - no harm, no foul. If your copy of Windows is x64 then get the 64bit version. I don't know if that's available in portable but it's definitely available for the full version. I use it.

I'm sticking with FF x64bit. Don't really like Google Chrome because its memory hog. Sure, each tab has separate memory and a process, but I don't like it.

Quote from: Vasudev on June 08, 2017, 08:59 PM
I'm sticking with FF x64bit. Don't really like Google Chrome because its memory hog. Sure, each tab has separate memory and a process, but I don't like it.

How much ram do you have in your system?

Quote from: humbert on June 10, 2017, 05:41 AM

Quote from: Vasudev on June 08, 2017, 08:59 PM
I'm sticking with FF x64bit. Don't really like Google Chrome because its memory hog. Sure, each tab has separate memory and a process, but I don't like it.

How much ram do you have in your system?

One has 16 GB and another has 6GB.

Quote from: Vasudev on June 08, 2017, 08:59 PM
I'm sticking with FF x64bit. Don't really like Google Chrome because its memory hog. Sure, each tab has separate memory and a process, but I don't like it.

One has 16 GB and another has 6GB.

It's understandable that you don't like Chrome. However, running it on the 16GB Ram computer is no problem when it comes to being Chrome being memory hog. Firefox also eats plenty of memory. Just to run a test I opened up both Firefox and Chrome at the same time, plus a few smaller programs. Windows task manager reports 7.2 GB of Ram being used, the rest is free.

Even on the 6 GB computer a memory hogging program is no problem, just don't run stuff in the background.

Quote from: humbert on June 13, 2017, 06:56 AM

Quote from: Vasudev on June 08, 2017, 08:59 PM
I'm sticking with FF x64bit. Don't really like Google Chrome because its memory hog. Sure, each tab has separate memory and a process, but I don't like it.

One has 16 GB and another has 6GB.

It's understandable that you don't like Chrome. However, running it on the 16GB Ram computer is no problem when it comes to being Chrome being memory hog. Firefox also eats plenty of memory. Just to run a test I opened up both Firefox and Chrome at the same time, plus a few smaller programs. Windows task manager reports 7.2 GB of Ram being used, the rest is free.

Even on the 6 GB computer a memory hogging program is no problem, just don't run stuff in the background.

Memory is not a problem, but Chrome needs more CPU cycles than firefox (With all add-ons). I got used to FF so much. How's chrome these days, I tried version 35 and everything got hung up. Even uninstalling it is a hassle.

Quote from: Vasudev on June 13, 2017, 08:32 AM
Memory is not a problem, but Chrome needs more CPU cycles than firefox (With all add-ons). I got used to FF so much. How's chrome these days, I tried version 35 and everything got hung up. Even uninstalling it is a hassle.

Precisely why when I first tested this thing I used a portable version. I only went to the real thing because I could not find a portable x64 version. 64bit is essential because this thing eats more than the 4GB limit on x86.

What CPU is on your 16GB ram computer?

With respect to uninstallation, sadly Chrome isn't the only program where a complete uninstall is next to impossible. Many more are like that. Parts of the program goes to the main folder. Others end up somewhere in the Users directory or elsewhere, usually buried 10 levels deep. The rest is scattered all over the registry. Even very thorough uninstalling programs such as Revo or Total Uninstall usually don't get absolutely everything. If I were the dictator of this planet, I would order developers to put every part of the program into a single folder where it can be conveniently moved or uninstalled - under penalty of death  :).

Quote from: humbert on June 14, 2017, 03:14 AM
What CPU is on your 16GB ram computer?

i7 6700HQ. I didn't run Chrome on this PC. I ran chrome on older Pentium 2020M with 6GB of RAM. In fact, I tried Chromium on Linux, although it was slick, the GUI was laggy most of the times, so I switched to FF agin and never turned back.
On my new PC, everything's smooth enough thanks to NVMe SSD.

Quote
With respect to uninstallation, sadly Chrome isn't the only program where a complete uninstall is next to impossible. Many more are like that. Parts of the program goes to the main folder. Others end up somewhere in the Users directory or elsewhere, usually buried 10 levels deep. The rest is scattered all over the registry. Even very thorough uninstalling programs such as Revo or Total Uninstall usually don't get absolutely everything. If I were the dictator of this planet, I would order developers to put every part of the program into a single folder where it can be conveniently moved or uninstalled - under penalty of death  :).

Nice  :)

Quote from: Vasudev on June 14, 2017, 08:00 AM
i7 6700HQ. I didn't run Chrome on this PC. I ran chrome on older Pentium 2020M with 6GB of RAM. In fact, I tried Chromium on Linux, although it was slick, the GUI was laggy most of the times, so I switched to FF agin and never turned back.
On my new PC, everything's smooth enough thanks to NVMe SSD.

I can understand not liking Chrome (or anything else). We all have our tastes. With your system the concept of a program hogging too much memory or CPU cycles is meaningless. Your lappy can flawlessly run anything you throw at it. Mine is 16GB - 17 4710HQ and it runs Chrome and games like a bullet. Obviously this would not be the case with the ancient Pentium 2020M. Remember the reason we spend our money on high end systems is so we can easily run resource-intensive programs.

Just right now I took a look at my Android phone and found about 4 folders that belong to programs I uninstalled. I had to delete them manually because uninstalling the program won't do it. Imagine the amount of raw sewage that non-nerds must have on their systems! All the more reason to execute developers whose uninstall scripts purposely leave data behind.

Quote from: humbert on June 15, 2017, 04:57 AM

Quote from: Vasudev on June 14, 2017, 08:00 AM
i7 6700HQ. I didn't run Chrome on this PC. I ran chrome on older Pentium 2020M with 6GB of RAM. In fact, I tried Chromium on Linux, although it was slick, the GUI was laggy most of the times, so I switched to FF agin and never turned back.
On my new PC, everything's smooth enough thanks to NVMe SSD.

I can understand not liking Chrome (or anything else). We all have our tastes. With your system the concept of a program hogging too much memory or CPU cycles is meaningless. Your lappy can flawlessly run anything you throw at it. Mine is 16GB - 17 4710HQ and it runs Chrome and games like a bullet. Obviously this would not be the case with the ancient Pentium 2020M. Remember the reason we spend our money on high end systems is so we can easily run resource-intensive programs.

Just right now I took a look at my Android phone and found about 4 folders that belong to programs I uninstalled. I had to delete them manually because uninstalling the program won't do it. Imagine the amount of raw sewage that non-nerds must have on their systems! All the more reason to execute developers whose uninstall scripts purposely leave data behind.

Pentium 2020M is based off Ivybridge. Yes you're correct, everybody has their different tastes. You use Chrome on Android or other alternatives?

Quote from: Vasudev on June 15, 2017, 07:00 PM
Pentium 2020M is based off Ivybridge. Yes you're correct, everybody has their different tastes. You use Chrome on Android or other alternatives?

I've yet to find a reasonably good browser for Android. Chrome for desktop is [in my opinion] excellent, but the Android version is garbage. I'm using Firefox only because it's not worse, but honestly it's not very good. I just downloaded Opera and started testing it on my phone. I'll let you know.

And speaking of Firefox, as of version 54 it too will start putting tabs in separate processes. See this article (https://www.extremetech.com/internet/250930-firefox-54-finally-supports-multithreading-claims-higher-ram-efficiency-chrome) for details. Have you upgraded? I did. Some sites behave better with Firefox, which is why I haven't removed my copy.

not so while ago it was firefox but now i switched to opera

Quote from: humbert on June 16, 2017, 05:05 AM

Quote from: Vasudev on June 15, 2017, 07:00 PM
Pentium 2020M is based off Ivybridge. Yes you're correct, everybody has their different tastes. You use Chrome on Android or other alternatives?

I've yet to find a reasonably good browser for Android. Chrome for desktop is [in my opinion] excellent, but the Android version is garbage. I'm using Firefox only because it's not worse, but honestly it's not very good. I just downloaded Opera and started testing it on my phone. I'll let you know.

And speaking of Firefox, as of version 54 it too will start putting tabs in separate processes. See this article (https://www.extremetech.com/internet/250930-firefox-54-finally-supports-multithreading-claims-higher-ram-efficiency-chrome) for details. Have you upgraded? I did. Some sites behave better with Firefox, which is why I haven't removed my copy.

Without addons e10 aka multiprocess works otherwise e10 isn't compatible with addons.

Quote from: Murtlap on August 28, 2017, 11:37 AM
not so while ago it was firefox but now i switched to opera

Why do you prefer Opera as opposed to its competitors, e.g., Firefox, Chrome, Edge.

I've been using Firefox on a windows laptop.. today it upgraded to Firefox Quantum and the difference in speed is apparent. It's much better than before.

I'm using FF Quantum as well. I think Chrome will follow the same footsteps saying twice as fast and better FF quantum on modern PCs.

Quote from: Vasudev on November 18, 2017, 06:27 PM
I'm using FF Quantum as well. I think Chrome will follow the same footsteps saying twice as fast and better FF quantum on modern PCs.

I wanted to share this article (https://www.howtogeek.com/333230/why-firefox-had-to-kill-your-favorite-extension). It clearly explains why Mozilla had to upgrade despite many extensions being broken. It also has links to extensions that no longer work and their status and/or a suggested replacement. Check it out.

Quote from: humbert on November 19, 2017, 03:03 AM

Quote from: Vasudev on November 18, 2017, 06:27 PM
I'm using FF Quantum as well. I think Chrome will follow the same footsteps saying twice as fast and better FF quantum on modern PCs.

I wanted to share this article (https://www.howtogeek.com/333230/why-firefox-had-to-kill-your-favorite-extension). It clearly explains why Mozilla had to upgrade despite many extensions being broken. It also has links to extensions that no longer work and their status and/or a suggested replacement. Check it out.

I'm using uGet downloader and it isn't sleek but it works. I'm trying IDM on wine.
I used that find replacement feature before FF57 was out, it suggested bulk media downloader.
Uget doesn't remember my download folder preference. Really was following ghacks.net and others for exhaustive list of web extensions that could replace existing addons.

Quote from: Vasudev on November 19, 2017, 11:06 AM
I'm using uGet downloader and it isn't sleek but it works. I'm trying IDM on wine.

I don't think you can get this thing to work on Wine. Remember you'd be using it to grab downloads from Firefox -- the Linux version. Even if you got it to work, integrating it into Firefox for Linux is another matter entirely. If you DO manage to get it to work, by all means let me know exactly what you did.

It's been a while since I used Wine, but when I did the only Windows apps that worked were small, portable programs. I have yet to get anything bigger to run, especially if it's got an installation program that puts files and settings in the registry and other different places.

Quote from: humbert on November 20, 2017, 03:18 AM

Quote from: Vasudev on November 19, 2017, 11:06 AM
I'm using uGet downloader and it isn't sleek but it works. I'm trying IDM on wine.

I don't think you can get this thing to work on Wine. Remember you'd be using it to grab downloads from Firefox -- the Linux version. Even if you got it to work, integrating it into Firefox for Linux is another matter entirely. If you DO manage to get it to work, by all means let me know exactly what you did.

It's been a while since I used Wine, but when I did the only Windows apps that worked were small, portable programs. I have yet to get anything bigger to run, especially if it's got an installation program that puts files and settings in the registry and other different places.

Finally got uGet to be up and running on Linux and Windows. Goodbye DTA for now. If there's a WebExt I'll try it.

hello guys.. I use firefox