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December 06, 2016, 07:34 PM
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When you really think of it, the eventual goal of the Caliphate is laughable. It reminds me a little of Hitler. Only a deranged mind would believe that one nation could declare war on the rest of Europe, not to even mention the USA and Canada, and win. OK, so he had one ally (Italy), but Mussolini's military was notoriously inefficient. The Italians were defeated when they tried to take the Balkans, and the Ethiopians were all but unarmed. ISIS is even worse when it comes to lunacy. They have no allies and whole world is united against them. al-Baghdadi was living a life of luxury, almost really believing he's going to defeat the whole world.

If and when ISIS decides to abandon this crazy idea and become a terrorist organization hiding in caves (like Al Qaeda), even there they will eventually be defeated.

December 07, 2016, 03:20 PM
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The intervention of humbert is really interesting, and I firmly believe that the audience is aware of that. That’s why I’m going to answer him, because even if the purposes of Isis and Hitler have similarities (the construction of a totalitarian empire), I guess their means are not comparable. While the army of Hitler was a real threat for Europe, Russia, and maybe some other parts of the world, the Islamic State group has only been a local threat, so far at least.

The huge difference between the 3rd Reich and the Islamic State is the fact that the whole of Germany was following the orders of the Reich Fuhrer. At this time The Germans had been humiliated by the treaty of Versailles at the end of ww1, and they considered that the Alsace Lorraine region was German, as well as several German-Speaking countries like Austrich (when Austrich was invaded they called it “Anschluss” or annexation). Also, don’t forget that every European man was involved in this war. My own grandfather killed 2 nazis during ww2. He told me “I did not hesitate. It was me, or them”. If you are wondering if he has gone to Syria to wage Jihad the answer is no, he succumbed to leukemia 15 years ago. Had it been the case in Syria and Iraq, the death toll would have been significantly higher (maybe several million casualties). What’s more, the Islamic State has no legitimacy, no real strategy, and is considered as a rogue group.

At the beginning of World war 2, hitler had an army of 8 million men and conquered half of Europe in a few days (this event was called Blitzkrieg, or lightning war). I guess that Baghdadi could not have the same claims with his 30 000 Jihadists, some of whom had only gone there to shoot some videos and were totally unable to fight.

In the case of Hitler, I think that his army was way more powerful than the armies in the other countries of Europe, but he was a bad strategist. Opening two fronts, on the West and on the East, was a suicidal idea that cost the Germans their victory. Indeed, the most dramatic and most significant reversal of German fortunes came on the eastern front. The sheer scale of the conflict between the Wehrmacht and the Red Army dwarfed anything seen anywhere else during the second world war. From 22 June 1941, the day of the German invasion, there was never a point at which less than two-thirds of the German armed forces were engaged on the eastern front. Deaths on the eastern front numbered more than in all the other theatres of war put together, including the Pacific. Hitler had expected the Soviet Union, which he regarded as an unstable state, ruled by a clique of "Jewish Bolsheviks" (a bizarre idea, given the fact that Stalin himself was an antisemite), exploiting a vast mass of racially inferior and disorganised peasants, to crumble as soon as it was attacked.
But it did not. On the contrary, Stalin's patriotic appeals to his people helped rally them to fight in the "great patriotic war", spurred on by horror at the murderous brutality of the German occupation. More than three million Soviet prisoners of war were deliberately left to die of starvation and disease in makeshift camps. Civilians were drafted into forced labour, villages were burned to the ground, towns reduced to rubble. More than one million people died in the siege of Leningrad; but it did not fall. Soviet reserves of manpower and resources were seemingly inexhaustible. In a vast effort, major arms and munitions factories had been dismantled and transported to safety east of the Urals. Here they began to pour out increasing quantities of military hardware, including the terrifying "Stalin organ", the Katyusha rocket-launcher. In the longer run, the Germans were unable to match any of this; even if some of their hardware, notably the Tiger and Panther tanks, was better than anything the Russians could produce, they simply could not get them off the production lines in sufficient quantities to make a decisive difference.

As for the Islamic State, with a (much) bigger army, we can assume they could have built a strategy in accordance with their claims. Even if Isis has been accused of Genocide, its army is way too weak against the Kurdish soldiers, the Shia rebels, or the international coalition.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMuaJNJMtAw
To kill the “bad Muslims” (the Shiites!), and build a sunni caliphate, I guess that concentration camps around raqqa and Mosul would have been necessary, but it requires an enormous organization. It seems totally unthinkable. As for the liberation of Palestine, we can imagine that a mass propaganda, and a forced recruitment of Palestinians soldiers would have been necessary. But once again, there was nothing behind the words of the self proclaimed caliph. From this slant, I guess that the administrator of the forum would have been forcefully enlisted as a “Kapo” to exterminate the "enemies of god", as Baghdadi calls them, in some camps (the Shiites, the Christians, the Jews...) Well, that's not a wish, just a few elements to show the difference between the facts and the speech of Isis.
 
Some photos of the 3rd reich army:

Some nazi soldiers in Nuremberg






Hitler in Paris





I have a few old coins, amongst them, those ones, the one on the left is dating back from the 3rd reich, the one on the right is dating back from the Vichy regime.




For the little users of the forum who like playing video games, well guess what, it's possible to kill Hitler in Zombie army trilogy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FjwljLxHIo

As far as BigDaddy is concerned, I'm afraid we won't have anything anytime soon.
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December 09, 2016, 08:59 PM
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There is no question that the Third Reich was a far more formidable enemy than ISIS. However, despite their military blunders I do not believe Germany could not have taken over the entire world. At the pinnacle of their power in 1940 they failed to invade England. If they had taken Moscow in 1941, I'm convinced we would have seen a repetition of 1812. Even if they had succeeded in conquering Europe, and invasion of the Western Hemisphere would have been no easy task - simply getting past the US Navy would have been notoriously difficult. And of course, as the Americans learned the hard way in Iraq, taking over a country is one thing, holding on to it is a different matter entirely. Hitler would have to deploy a considerable part of his military to simply hold on the the newly occupied countries.

Hitler's ambition of taking over the world was nothing more the fantasy of a drug-fueled madman who believed his own propaganda.

December 10, 2016, 08:09 AM
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As you can see on this map, After the annexation of Poland and Austrich, the German Reich had become quite big.

Note that Hitler clearly indicated, in his book, "Mein Kampf", that he wished for an expansion of Germany towards the East of Europe, which was called "Living space" (Lebensraum). What's more, Hitler wanted the concentration camps to be outside Germany. Indeed, in the early years of World War II, the Jews were sent primarily to forced labour camps and ghettoised, but from 1942 onward they were being deported to the extermination camps under the guise of "resettlement". For political and logistical reasons, the most infamous killing factories were built in occupied Poland, where most of the intended victims lived; Poland had the greatest Jewish population in Nazi controlled Europe. On top of that, the new death camps outside the prewar borders of the Third Reich proper could be kept secret from the German civil populace.
Thus you can notice that the German army was occupying a significant part of Europe (Norway, Belgium, the Netherlands, Northern France, Ukraine, Eastern Russia...). Shadow.97 may be surprised Sweden was not occupied by the German army. Indeed, the Nazi regime also considered Sweden's future submission to the Nazi "New Order". Himmler asserted that the Swedes were "the incarnation of the Nordic spirit and man," and eagerly awaited the integration of the center and the south of Sweden into the German Reich. The Reichsführer-SS proposed to offer to Finland the north of the country, with its Finnish minority, as well as the Norwegian port of Kirkenes; But he came up against the refusal of Finnish Foreign Minister Rolf Witting. Felix Kersten argued that Himmler regretted that the German forces had not occupied Sweden during Operation Weserübung, but that he was reassured by knowing that it would be rectified after the war. In April 1942, Goebbels expressed a similar point of view in his diary, writing that Germany should have occupied the country during its campaign in the North, since "this state has no right to exist."

As far as Syria is concerned, so called "Friends of Syria Group" meets in Paris to talk about the month-long attack in Aleppo that killed 400 civilians and prompted 80 thousand to flee. 85% of the eastern area of Aleppo previously held by the rebels is now controlled by the regime.
But unlike Russia and Iran, this group is against Assad and some are afraid there may be vested interests.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4dGBbOkL3M
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December 11, 2016, 03:42 PM
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Tonight, I’m going to hold another conference about the Islamic State


The American propaganda was declaring that the Army of the Caliphate would be defeated easily in Mosul and in Syria. Truth is they are back, perhaps more powerful than ever. Tonight, the Jihadists are marching again in Palmyra, which was recaptured despite the bombings led by the Russian aircrafts of General Putin.

The city has an importance to the IS as it connects areas under the terror group’s control in Deir al-Zour with Homs province.
The recapture of Palmyra is also important as the group’s fighters in Iraq have started entering Syria recently after suffering great losses in battles against the Iraqi army and the US-anti-terror coalition.

What’s more, in Mosul, the battle turns out to be much more difficult than expected.
The startling progress of the first few weeks of the campaign to take Iraq’s second city, the terror group’s last urban stronghold in Iraq, has given way to a numbing reality: Isis will not surrender Mosul, and Iraq’s battered military will struggle to take it.
Since Iraqi forces entered Gogali, a light industrial neighbourhood, in mid-November, the advance has slowed. “When we started, we were talking weeks,” said Hussein. “Now, we hope it will be by early in the new year. But these guys are not cowards. They kill as easy as they breathe.”
Forces deployed beyond nominal frontlines, marked by heaped piles of dirt, are around five miles from the Nour mosque, where the Isis leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, proclaimed himself the leader of a caliphate nearly 30 months ago. But every street and sector towards the mosque – a highly symbolic target of the fight – is claiming an increasing toll in blood and treasure.
Car bombs – of the type that ravaged the dozens of humvees in the makeshift wrecking yards – continue to take a withering toll on the US-supplied vehicles, which form the staple of the Iraqi military’s armour.
The toll they are taking on morale is more difficult to gauge. Iraqi troops stationed in Gogali and the roads leading to it insist they will win the war, no matter how long it takes. Some however concede that they could still be fighting in Mosul’s tunnels and alleyways as late as next summer.
People shopping at a street market in the Gogali neighbourhood of eastern Mosul



Everywhere in the world the non Muslim people are praying because they know their end could be near, particularly in the Middle East and in Africa. In Egypt, several attacks took place during the week-end, showing evidence of the presence of the Islamic State in the vicinity.
On 10 december, at least six people have been killed in a bomb attack on a road leading to the Great Pyramid of Giza - a tourist attraction popular with British holidaymakers. The explosion appeared to have come from a rubbish bin in Cairo along a route used to access the entrance to the world heritage site, which lies in a western suburb of the capital.
And today a bomb blast at Egypt’s main Coptic Christian cathedral has killed at least 25 people and injured 35 others on Sunday. Egyptian state TV reported that the bomb exploded in a chapel close to the outer wall of St Mark’s Cathedral, the seat of Egypt’s Orthodox Christian church and home to the office of its spiritual leader, Pope Tawadros II.
Some people gathering in front the cathedral


There are some Egyptians on the forum and if I can give them advice, well I would tell them to avoid places of cult (especially churches, but also mosques), dens of vice, touristic sites and finally overpopulated market places.

I also advise against going to Turkey since the attacks of the Kurdish fighters but also the Islamic State could be more and more violent against President Erdogan who is cracking down on them.
Indeed, A twin bomb attack on police officers outside a football stadium in Turkey's largest city, Istanbul, has killed 38 people and injured many more.
A car bomb hit a police vehicle and a suicide bomber detonated a suicide vest in quick succession late on Saturday.
Video here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5teH2-iGEA

December 14, 2016, 05:14 PM
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Tonight, I’m going to give you a quick insight of the latest news concerning the Islamic State.


In Egypt, the Islamic State claimed responsibility for a bombing that killed 24 people at Cairo’s main Coptic Christian cathedral this weekend, in what would be the first militant attack on a Christian house of worship in Egypt since 2011.
It is the deadliest attack on civilians claimed by the terror group in Egypt since the October 2015 crash of a Russian passenger jet shortly after takeoff from the Red Sea resort city Sharm El Sheikh that killed all 224 people aboard.
Islamic State vowed to continue its war against “polytheism” in a statement circulated late Tuesday by SITE Intelligence Group, which monitors jihadist activity online. One of its suicide bombers had detonated an explosive belt inside a “Christian temple” at the cathedral complex, it said. Isis named him by what appeared to be a nom de guerre, Abu Abdullah al-Masri.
Sunday morning’s blast struck the female worshipers’ side of the small church of St. Paul and St. Peter, attached to the Coptic Cathedral in the capital’s Abbassiya district. Most of the dead were women attending a weekly sermon. Another 49 people were wounded.
After leading a state funeral for victims on Monday, President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi declared a three-day mourning period and promised the perpetrators would be brought to justice.
He named the bomber as 22-year-old Mahmoud Shafiq. Egypt’s military is battling a growing insurgency based in the northern Sinai Peninsula, with Islamic State and other extremist groups regularly targeting military and government installations. But militant attacks on Copts in Egypt are rare. Islamic State in June took credit for killing a Christian priest in the northern Sinai.


In France, Ayoub El Khazzani, heard Wednesday 14 December before the examining magistrate, "assumes his responsibilities" in the jihadist attack against a Thalys between Amsterdam and Paris in August 2015, but refuted any will to commit a "mass massacre", said her lawyer at the end of the hearing.


On 21 August, the 27-year-old Moroccan, with a Kalashnikov and nine full magazines, opened fire on a Thalys Amsterdam-Paris shortly after his entry into French territory near the town of Oignies (Pas- De-Calais). He had seriously injured a passenger before the intervention of several travelers, including American soldiers, who had prevented a massacre.

The suspect, heard for more than five hours before an anti-terrorist investigating judge, "explained in detail all the facts" and "outlined his journey from Syria, Turkey to Europe. With Abdelhamid Abaaoud, "one of the coordinators of the attacks of November 13, said his lawyer Sarah Mauger-Poliak.

"He explains that it was as a jihadist he got into this Thalys (...) but what he wanted to say is that he was not there to (...) kill anyone in this Thalys. Not at all, "she said. The lawyer referred to "a precise, determined target" before adding without further detail: "He was there for specific reasons. It is no coincidence that he came up in first class"

Ayoub El Khazzani, who was indicted for "terrorist assassination attempts", had at the time delivered a fantastic version, explaining that he wanted to ransom the travelers of the Thalys and found by chance the weapons in a park in Brussels where he slept with homeless people. Since then, "he had remained silent", according to his lawyer.

December 15, 2016, 05:12 PM
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a little video about Aleppo in Russian with English subtitles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNXaL1x9Yg4
For those who want to go there to wage Jihad, I admire your courage, you'll have to cope with hunger, cold, and your chance of survival is slim.

December 17, 2016, 05:10 PM
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A little video about the rise of the Islamic State group in London, United Kindgom: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DsG9yQrdD4

December 19, 2016, 02:34 PM
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Tonight, a Jihadist attack took place in Berlin.

At least nine dead, 50 injured as lorry ploughs into crowd at Christmas market.
The driver is still at large after fleeing scene.


December 19, 2016, 04:48 PM
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Today, in Turkey, Russia’s ambassador to Turkey was assassinated at an Ankara art exhibit on Monday evening by a lone Turkish gunman shouting “God is great!” and “don’t forget Aleppo, don’t forget Syria!” in what Russia called a terrorist attack.

The gunman, described by Ankara’s mayor as a policeman, also wounded at least three others in the assault on the envoy, Andrey G. Karlov, which was captured on Turkish video. Turkish officials said the assailant was killed by other officers in a shootout.

The assassination, an embarrassing security failure in the Turkish capital, instantly vaulted relations between Turkey and Russia to a new level of crisis over the Syrian conflict on Turkey’s southern doorstep, now in its sixth year.