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Title: How to install OS
Post by: topdog on March 16, 2012, 03:32 AM
I am still struggling to learn my way around this forum and don't know where this should go, so will just post it here.                                                                                                                                                                Have just got  the new XP Pro files from SA (Marherz Blog) but have never installed an OS before. Could someone please provide me with link(s) to good, very clear, non jargon, tutorial? Hopefully this is not an inappropriate request. Thank you in advance
Title: Re: How to install OS
Post by: Ahmad on March 16, 2012, 06:41 AM
Hello again, topdog.  :)
I hope you are well.

My friend BLADESHARK <Many Thanks to him> posted the whole explanation of Windows XP installation before in 2 ways, Writing and Screen Shots.

You can find it in this link:

http://www.nomaher.com/forum/index.php?topic=366.msg2536#msg2536

BTW, Screen Shots are in attachments in many successive posts.
I hope it will help you.
Good luck and thanks again, BLADESHARK.
:) :D
Title: Re: How to install OS
Post by: BLADESHARK on March 16, 2012, 12:58 PM
New Topic created ;) ;) :D
Title: Re: How to install OS
Post by: Ahmad on March 16, 2012, 05:05 PM
Here is our friend <BLADESHARK> again with his hard work.
He has posted 2 new topics about How to install Windows XP and Windows 7.
In case you can't find it, these are the links:

How to install Windows XP (http://www.nomaher.com/forum/index.php?topic=513.0)

How to install Windows 7 (http://www.nomaher.com/forum/index.php?topic=514.0)

Thanks, BLADESHARK and good luck, topdog.
:) :D
Title: Re: How to install OS
Post by: BLADESHARK on March 16, 2012, 06:29 PM
Quote from: Ahmad on March 16, 2012, 05:05 PM
Here is our friend <BLADESHARK> again with his hard work.
He has posted 2 new topics about How to install Windows XP and Windows 7.
In case you can't find it, these are the links:

How to install Windows XP (http://www.nomaher.com/forum/index.php?topic=513.0;topicseen)

How to install Windows 7 (http://www.nomaher.com/forum/index.php?topic=514.0;topicseen)

Thanks, BLADESHARK and good luck, topdog.
:) :D

You are most welcome My Dear Friend.

Just thought for a while and decided that Installing OS is a Difficult Task for Beginners & Newbies :-[
So I just created a new Topic for everyone to benefit, Otherwise I would have just posted it here. :D
Title: Re: How to install OS
Post by: humbert on March 16, 2012, 11:45 PM
Quote from: Ahmad on March 16, 2012, 05:05 PM
Just thought for a while and decided that Installing OS is a Difficult Task for Beginners & Newbies :-[
So I just created a new Topic for everyone to benefit, Otherwise I would have just posted it here. :D

Hello dear friend! While I certainly agree with you and Bladeshark in every effort you've made to help out those who are in trouble and to clarify issues for those of us who are confused (myself included), somehow I have a hard time understanding what is so difficult about installing an operating system. Every time I've done that, I've notice that it pretty much installs itself and only asks for drivers when needed (as is the case of XP with SATA) or maybe some sort of serial number. Indeed, I don't recall a single installation of Windows of the many I've performed that all I've done is sit back and wait for it to finish.

Indeed, I e-mailed Linuxguru (remember him?) with a few more questions about Pinguy, but in reality it all deals with the fact that, to install it and play around with it, I have to repartition my 2nd hard drive. I read his tutorial on Gparted and understood it, but there were just 2 or 3 more questions. Given the fact that for whatever reason he never got back to me, I ask: Bladeshark: are you familiar with this subject to see if I can pose the same questions to you, or are you strictly a Windows guy?
Title: Re: How to install OS
Post by: topdog on March 17, 2012, 01:52 AM
@Ahmad. Thank you, for your good wishes, prompt reply and links.                                                   @BLADESHARK.  Thank you very much, for all the hard work that must have gone on behind the scene, before you posted these two articles.  It is very much appreciated by me.                                                                       @  humb25. Will respond to your note later  (after I've counted to 10). @ All, apologies for bad formatting of posts, have no idea what I'm doing.                                                                                                                    Hei konā rā
Title: Re: How to install OS
Post by: Ahmad on March 17, 2012, 05:42 AM
Hello again, everyone.  :)

Links of How to install OS are now under Microsoft Windows section :

How to install Windows XP (http://www.nomaher.com/forum/index.php?topic=513.0)

How to install Windows 7 (http://www.nomaher.com/forum/index.php?topic=514.0)

Thanks.  :) :D
Title: Re: How to install OS
Post by: BLADESHARK on March 17, 2012, 08:48 AM
Quote from: humb25 on March 16, 2012, 11:45 PM
Hello dear friend! While I certainly agree with you and Bladeshark in every effort you've made to help out those who are in trouble and to clarify issues for those of us who are confused (myself included), somehow I have a hard time understanding what is so difficult about installing an operating system. Every time I've done that, I've notice that it pretty much installs itself and only asks for drivers when needed (as is the case of XP with SATA) or maybe some sort of serial number. Indeed, I don't recall a single installation of Windows of the many I've performed that all I've done is sit back and wait for it to finish.

Every one are not Literate like you are my dear friend!
What will happen if a newbie is installing Windows and suddenly he gets a BSOD, now what shall he do at this time.
That Newbie will be crying to GOD that he goes back in time and wished he would never had started installing windows.
Title: Re: How to install OS
Post by: BLADESHARK on March 17, 2012, 09:04 AM
Quote from: humb25 on March 16, 2012, 11:45 PM
Indeed, I e-mailed Linuxguru (remember him?) with a few more questions about Pinguy, but in reality it all deals with the fact that, to install it and play around with it, I have to repartition my 2nd hard drive. I read his tutorial on Gparted and understood it, but there were just 2 or 3 more questions. Given the fact that for whatever reason he never got back to me, I ask: Bladeshark: are you familiar with this subject to see if I can pose the same questions to you, or are you strictly a Windows guy?

Yes I do remember him, Where is he?? :(
I am strictly a Windows guy, but you can post your questions, I will install Pinguy on Virtual box and see if I can Help you.
My 2 Friends (resident near me) are Linux Users -- I will ask them for solution if I fail.

Thank You!!
Take care. :)
Title: Re: How to install OS
Post by: topdog on March 17, 2012, 11:49 AM
QuoteEvery one are not Literate like you are my dear friend!
What will happen if a newbie is installing Windows and suddenly he gets a BSOD, now what shall he do at this time.
That Newbie will be crying to GOD that he goes back in time and wished he would never had started installing windows.
Thanks again BLADESHARK. You have chosen the right words for what I wished to say to humb25
Title: Re: How to install OS
Post by: BLADESHARK on March 17, 2012, 07:29 PM
Quote from: topdog on March 17, 2012, 11:49 AM
Thanks again BLADESHARK. You have chosen the right words for what I wished to say to humb25

You are always welcome My Dear Friend :D
Title: Re: How to install OS
Post by: humbert on March 20, 2012, 12:04 AM
Quote from: BLADESHARK on March 17, 2012, 09:04 AM
Yes I do remember him, Where is he?? :(
I am strictly a Windows guy, but you can post your questions, I will install Pinguy on Virtual box and see if I can Help you.
My 2 Friends (resident near me) are Linux Users -- I will ask them for solution if I fail.
Take care. :)

Thank YOU!!  :) - Basically what I wanted to know can easily be said in a post. I looked all over for an answer and came up empty. I now know that if I am to use Pinguy at all, there is no Wubi-type program and I must repartition the drive, there is no escape. I don't want to even touch my drive C:\ because Windows and my whole life is on it, plus the fact that it's an SSD and, although they're fast as rockets, so far they don't have anywhere near as much space capacity as their magnetic cousins. This will change with time and magnetics will eventually go the way of the floppy disk, but we're not there just yet. This means I must use my drive D:\ which is magnetic and has plenty of free space. Going into the BIOS and making it the boot (or primary) drive is the easy part. What I don't understand is this:

1) If I created any partition at all using Gparted, what will happen to the data on the now smaller NTFS partition that is left behind? Must I move it to another drive and then move it back, or will it be unaffected (the drive is presently about 87% free in space).

2) I know that 2 partitions have to be created -- one being the partition Pinguy will be on (also the boot partition), and the other for swap. Must I create 2 primary partitions, or can I get away with creating one extended partition and put the other 2 inside it?

3) If I did any of these things that will work, how big do both new Linux partitions have to be or, to put it another way, what size do you or your friends recommend? I still don't know how much stuff I'm going to put on there and, I'm not sure I can use the remaining NTFS partition to put Linux stuff on it. I do know for a fact that any Linux distro can see NTFS, but will Linux run programs installed there?

Unless you know the answers, kindly run this past your friends and ask them what they think.

A million thanks,
Humbert
Title: Re: How to install OS
Post by: BLADESHARK on March 21, 2012, 04:56 PM
Looking Forward to it
Just be patient ;) :D
Title: Re: How to install OS
Post by: humbert on March 23, 2012, 05:03 AM
Quote from: BLADESHARK on March 21, 2012, 04:56 PM
Looking Forward to it
Just be patient ;) :D

Many thanks. There is no hurry. I will wait patiently.  :)
Title: Re: How to install OS
Post by: BLADESHARK on March 23, 2012, 03:57 PM
Quote from: humb25 on March 23, 2012, 05:03 AM
Quote from: BLADESHARK on March 21, 2012, 04:56 PM
Looking Forward to it
Just be patient ;) :D

Many thanks. There is no hurry. I will wait patiently.  :)
Asked this bcoz I am taking a new broadband, so it will take time for the technician to visit my house and install the needed things & then after that I will get started with your work. :P
Good Luck! ;)
Title: Re: How to install OS
Post by: humbert on March 25, 2012, 06:10 AM
Quote from: BLADESHARK on March 23, 2012, 03:57 PM
Asked this bcoz I am taking a new broadband, so it will take time for the technician to visit my house and install the needed things & then after that I will get started with your work. :P
Good Luck! ;)

You're saying that either your present ISP is upgrading their system to include (for example) fiber optics, or has another ISP entered the scene? Here only the main lines to the pedestal are fiber (they are all underground) -- from the pedestal to your house is coax. I wish it was fiber all the way, I could get speeds of 1-Gb/sec like they have in a new apartment building in Hong Kong. Oh, and keep in mind this not for the whole building, it's per customer.
Title: Re: How to install OS
Post by: BLADESHARK on March 27, 2012, 05:29 PM
Quote from: humb25 on March 25, 2012, 06:10 AM
Quote from: BLADESHARK on March 23, 2012, 03:57 PM
Asked this bcoz I am taking a new broadband, so it will take time for the technician to visit my house and install the needed things & then after that I will get started with your work. :P
Good Luck! ;)

You're saying that either your present ISP is upgrading their system to include (for example) fiber optics, or has another ISP entered the scene? Here only the main lines to the pedestal are fiber (they are all underground) -- from the pedestal to your house is coax. I wish it was fiber all the way, I could get speeds of 1-Gb/sec like they have in a new apartment building in Hong Kong. Oh, and keep in mind this not for the whole building, it's per customer.

NEW ISP
Title: Re: How to install OS
Post by: humbert on March 29, 2012, 12:45 AM
Quote from: BLADESHARK on March 27, 2012, 05:29 PM
NEW ISP

That's great! Nothing better than old fashioned competition! What speeds have you been promised, and about how long does it take someone to do the installation from the time you called to the time the tech arrives? With the cable company I have now, it would take 7 to 10 days, all depending how busy they are and how many other installations are in queue.
Title: Re: How to install OS
Post by: BLADESHARK on April 10, 2012, 12:17 PM
Quote from: humbert on March 29, 2012, 12:45 AM
That's great! Nothing better than old fashioned competition! What speeds have you been promised, and about how long does it take someone to do the installation from the time you called to the time the tech arrives? With the cable company I have now, it would take 7 to 10 days, all depending how busy they are and how many other installations are in queue.
What great ??? ???
The company even didn't call back till now :( :(
I am very frustrated. >:( >:(
Title: Re: How to install OS
Post by: humbert on April 14, 2012, 01:36 AM
Quote from: BLADESHARK on April 10, 2012, 12:17 PM
What great ??? ???
The company even didn't call back till now :( :(
I am very frustrated. >:( >:(

OK, they called back. What did they say? Is the new system up and running, and if not, did they say when? Also, what speeds are these guys promising you compared to what you've got right now?
Title: Re: How to install OS
Post by: BLADESHARK on April 14, 2012, 01:35 PM
Quote from: humbert on April 14, 2012, 01:36 AM
OK, they called back.
NO >:(

Quote from: humbert on April 14, 2012, 01:36 AM
Is the new system up and running
NO >:(

Quote from: humbert on April 14, 2012, 01:36 AM
did they say when
NO >:(

Quote from: humbert on April 14, 2012, 01:36 AM
what speeds are these guys promising you compared to what you've got right now?
I have got nothing
INDIA is like this only. Right from the beginning.
That's why I am thinking of migrating to some other country when I will grow up and be on my feet.
Title: Re: How to install OS
Post by: humbert on April 15, 2012, 07:21 PM
Quote from: BLADESHARK on April 14, 2012, 01:35 PM
INDIA is like this only. Right from the beginning.
That's why I am thinking of migrating to some other country when I will grow up and be on my feet.

I know the feeling. I lived in Colombia for about 1½ years and it was exactly like that. To give you an idea of how bad it was, to simply have electricity put in would almost require you to go to the electric company and grease somebody. What a lot of people started doing (and probably still do) is hire an electician to connect their house to the existing electrical grid, in the process bypass the meter altogether. You almost had to do things like that or you wouldn't survive.

For a smart guy like you, leaving India would be an awesome idea. Where would you go? Hmmm... Singapore would be great, and I'm even thinking New Zealand. I don't think Australia would let you in. My wife's cousin has a son who went there to study, fell in love and married an Australian woman. Getting him a residence visa was horrible, the authorities even wanted copies of all their love letters.