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Off Topic Discussion => Chit Chat => Topic started by: akaubee on November 26, 2018, 06:58 AM

Title: Hackintosh Anyone?
Post by: akaubee on November 26, 2018, 06:58 AM
Hi friends, I recently got a macbook pro early 2011 from a friend of mine. Frankly the hardware specs s*cks but the Mac OS is an amazing OS.Now I could install it somehow on my pc but before I could do so, I had to watch so many tutorials on YouTube. Is there anyone using hackintosh..?

I used clover bootloader in order to install and boot mac os and regarding drivers only wifi is not working

My pc  specs:
biostar h81
pentium g3240
8gb (4x2GB)
kingston 120gb ssd
Title: Re: Hackintosh Anyone?
Post by: scarface on November 26, 2018, 07:23 AM
If you need osx, I advise you to install it via vmware. I tried to do that a few months ago, to no avail.
But I didn't try for long, because  I think there are better products. Apple is trendy, but way overpriced.
If you want sth that works on a pc, you should just use Ubuntu, in my opinion.

And do not forget that Apple is a controversial American brand.
If you are a model citizen, maybe you should use sth else. If you think that I'm resorting to biased narratives, you can read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Apple_Inc.
I've been several times to the Apple Store of the Opera, in Paris, and I never bought anything. In fact, it never crossed my mind. Usually, those who are buying Apple products just want to be different. In this case, there is linux, and it's free. And if you want to get rid of Windows, you can even install it as your only OS.
Here is a link for Ubuntu: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
And As far as drivers are concerned, it's quite easy to install it, even for a beginner. As for me, I still use windows, I don't have the energy to look for compatible software applications.
Title: Re: Hackintosh Anyone?
Post by: Vasudev on November 26, 2018, 12:59 PM
Hi friends, I recently got a macbook pro early 2011 from a friend of mine. Frankly the hardware specs s*cks but the Mac OS is an amazing OS.Now I could install it somehow on my pc but before I could do so, I had to watch so many tutorials on YouTube. Is there anyone using hackintosh..?

I used clover bootloader in order to install and boot mac os and regarding drivers only wifi is not working

My pc  specs:
biostar h81
pentium g3240
8gb (4x2GB)
kingston 120gb ssd
Try Ubuntu or Xubuntu 18 and theme it like OS X.
Title: Re: Hackintosh Anyone?
Post by: akaubee on November 27, 2018, 01:19 AM
If you need osx, I advise you to install it via vmware. I tried to do that a few months ago, to no avail.
But I didn't try for long, because  I think there are better products. Apple is trendy, but way overpriced.
If you want sth that works on a pc, you should just use Ubuntu, in my opinion.
Yes i did install via vmware, without clover bootloader or tonymacx86 support. the problem was about 3D hardware acceleration. the vm screen flickered a lot. The reason I liked mac os is about the animations and there are many daily apps that are also designed for mac(ms office, adobe photoshop, vs studio, netbeans,... I use the pirated version of course)

And regarding to linux ubuntu,this is the best distro I've ever used. I tried a lot more like:linux mint, elementaryOS, deepin OS, openSUSE, debian
Title: Re: Hackintosh Anyone?
Post by: akaubee on November 27, 2018, 01:24 AM
Try Ubuntu or Xubuntu 18 and theme it like OS X.
Loll. that was funny. I used hackintosh for experience and I found it amazing regarding app support and animations. But I would return to ubuntu as my secondary OS. I did exactly what you told before the idea of installing hackintosh came to me
Title: Re: Hackintosh Anyone?
Post by: scarface on November 27, 2018, 02:37 AM
Quote from: akaubee
And regarding to linux ubuntu,this is the best distro I've ever used. I tried a lot more like:linux mint, elementaryOS, deepin OS, openSUSE, debian

How will you play the repack that will be released tonight then? I hope you still have an old version of windows somewhere.

https://ibb.co/LhvKwY9
Title: Re: Hackintosh Anyone?
Post by: Vasudev on November 27, 2018, 02:39 AM
Try Ubuntu or Xubuntu 18 and theme it like OS X.
Loll. that was funny. I used hackintosh for experience and I found it amazing regarding app support and animations. But I would return to ubuntu as my secondary OS. I did exactly what you told before the idea of installing hackintosh came to me
Intel and AMD 3D might work but Nvidia's a hit or a miss on OS X.
Title: Re: Hackintosh Anyone?
Post by: akaubee on November 27, 2018, 11:48 AM
Try Ubuntu or Xubuntu 18 and theme it like OS X.
Loll. that was funny. I used hackintosh for experience and I found it amazing regarding app support and animations. But I would return to ubuntu as my secondary OS. I did exactly what you told before the idea of installing hackintosh came to me
Intel and AMD 3D might work but Nvidia's a hit or a miss on OS X.
Nvidia is good for performance but it really s* on Linux(on my laptop) and for mac os, you can have nvidia drivers up to version 387.10.10.10.40.108. It is said that latest nvidia cards cannot perform on latest release, Mac OS Mojave.

Anyway, I uninstalled hackintosh, and I am currently using windows 7 on my PC and Windows 10 on my laptop. I wanted to install windows 7 on my laptop but the problem is about system drivers.
Title: Re: Hackintosh Anyone?
Post by: Vasudev on November 28, 2018, 05:23 AM
Try Ubuntu or Xubuntu 18 and theme it like OS X.
Loll. that was funny. I used hackintosh for experience and I found it amazing regarding app support and animations. But I would return to ubuntu as my secondary OS. I did exactly what you told before the idea of installing hackintosh came to me
Intel and AMD 3D might work but Nvidia's a hit or a miss on OS X.
Nvidia is good for performance but it really s* on Linux(on my laptop) and for mac os, you can have nvidia drivers up to version 387.10.10.10.40.108. It is said that latest nvidia cards cannot perform on latest release, Mac OS Mojave.

Anyway, I uninstalled hackintosh, and I am currently using windows 7 on my PC and Windows 10 on my laptop. I wanted to install windows 7 on my laptop but the problem is about system drivers.
That's lovely. Their OS is simply hyped too much!
Title: Re: Hackintosh Anyone?
Post by: Shadow.97 on November 29, 2018, 03:44 AM
If you're only missing the driver for Wifi, try find the correct Kext.
If you cant find it, there's cheapo wifi adapters that work great with Hackintosh.
I had alot of issues installing Hackintosh on my hardware when i was interested in learning it.

But then I got a real mac for almost free, and it just wasnt my thing. So i stopped investing time in it.

I have heard alot of people had alot of success using wifi dongles though. Same goes with bluetooth.
Title: Re: Hackintosh Anyone?
Post by: humbert on November 29, 2018, 09:06 PM
When it comes to Linux distros, Mint is my favorite. It's got pretty much everything, it's easy to configure and fully supports 4K screens.

Of course I agree with the wiki article Scarface mentioned. Apple makes every attempt to monopolize everything and have full and total control. You are stuck in their world and paying for it. I would never get an Apple product, not even for free.
Title: Re: Hackintosh Anyone?
Post by: akaubee on December 01, 2018, 09:11 AM
Anyway, I'm done with mac os on laptop. Now I am trying to install w7 on my kaby lake cpu which will be a struggle for me.
Title: Re: Hackintosh Anyone?
Post by: Shadow.97 on December 01, 2018, 06:41 PM
When it comes to Linux distros, Mint is my favorite. It's got pretty much everything, it's easy to configure and fully supports 4K screens.

Of course I agree with the wiki article Scarface mentioned. Apple makes every attempt to monopolize everything and have full and total control. You are stuck in their world and paying for it. I would never get an Apple product, not even for free.

I suggest trying Debian with cinnamon desktop. It's my personal favorite for desktop usage.
Unless if we count for gaming.

I use it without almost any additional configuration on my laptop.
Title: Re: Hackintosh Anyone?
Post by: Vasudev on December 02, 2018, 09:48 AM
When it comes to Linux distros, Mint is my favorite. It's got pretty much everything, it's easy to configure and fully supports 4K screens.

Of course I agree with the wiki article Scarface mentioned. Apple makes every attempt to monopolize everything and have full and total control. You are stuck in their world and paying for it. I would never get an Apple product, not even for free.

I suggest trying Debian with cinnamon desktop. It's my personal favorite for desktop usage.
Unless if we count for gaming.

I use it without almost any additional configuration on my laptop.
Alienware?
Title: Re: Hackintosh Anyone?
Post by: Shadow.97 on October 12, 2020, 06:51 AM
When it comes to Linux distros, Mint is my favorite. It's got pretty much everything, it's easy to configure and fully supports 4K screens.

Of course I agree with the wiki article Scarface mentioned. Apple makes every attempt to monopolize everything and have full and total control. You are stuck in their world and paying for it. I would never get an Apple product, not even for free.

I suggest trying Debian with cinnamon desktop. It's my personal favorite for desktop usage.
Unless if we count for gaming.

I use it without almost any additional configuration on my laptop.
Alienware?
Not alienware, I got full refund on it after 2~3years after it started breaking down repeatedly :(

I got a laptop for free a while ago, an i3 5005u, 4gb ram, and 500gb hdd.
I put in 4gb extra, and an ssd.
Debian is quite a nice little OS, primarily for surfing, blender and the likes.
Title: Re: Hackintosh Anyone?
Post by: humbert on October 12, 2020, 09:36 PM
I suggest trying Debian with cinnamon desktop. It's my personal favorite for desktop usage.
Unless if we count for gaming.
I use it without almost any additional configuration on my laptop.

I searched on Google. There are at least 11 Linux distros based on Debian. Is there any real difference between any of these and Debian itself other than the apps that come with it? I assume the kernel must be identical.

My copy of Mint which I run under VirtualBox also comes with the Cinnamon desktop. Mate is available too.

Is Debian your primary OS, or do you only run it on your laptop for work?

I've never played a high-powered game under Linux (any distro), but I assume it must run like a beast, even on older machines. Just one thing -- do any of you guys know of a brand of gaming mice that supports Linux? This is the sad part. Due to lack of support a good gaming mouse with lots of buttons is about as useful as a cheap, basic mouse.
Title: Re: Hackintosh Anyone?
Post by: Shadow.97 on October 13, 2020, 09:00 PM
I suggest trying Debian with cinnamon desktop. It's my personal favorite for desktop usage.
Unless if we count for gaming.
I use it without almost any additional configuration on my laptop.

I searched on Google. There are at least 11 Linux distros based on Debian. Is there any real difference between any of these and Debian itself other than the apps that come with it? I assume the kernel must be identical.

My copy of Mint which I run under VirtualBox also comes with the Cinnamon desktop. Mate is available too.

Is Debian your primary OS, or do you only run it on your laptop for work?

I've never played a high-powered game under Linux (any distro), but I assume it must run like a beast, even on older machines. Just one thing -- do any of you guys know of a brand of gaming mice that supports Linux? This is the sad part. Due to lack of support a good gaming mouse with lots of buttons is about as useful as a cheap, basic mouse.

Zowie has amazing mice that dont use any software. Never had any issues with Linux with it.
Not had much issues with mice in general in linux honestly.

Down at the core, I'm not entirely sure what the difference is more than Ubuntu seems to be a set-in-stone office use distro(if we look past ubuntu server).
I just prefer the documentation, and that when you google things the questions and answers seem to be better formulated if you replace it with "debian" in the query instead of "ubuntu".
Title: Re: Hackintosh Anyone?
Post by: humbert on October 14, 2020, 09:41 PM
Zowie has amazing mice that dont use any software. Never had any issues with Linux with it.
Not had much issues with mice in general in linux honestly.

It's not the mouse, it's the software. It lets you program the buttons according to the game you're playing so you can keep your eyes on the screen and not chase down keyboard commands. There are, of course, different profiles according the the game (or app) you're on. All this works because I'm on Windows. Logitech (in my case) doesn't support Linux nor will it allow anyone to use its proprietary code to write a Linux app that allows you to program the mouse. I don't know of any other mouse that has Linux software. I don't know too much about Zowie, but based on what you're telling me there's no way to program the buttons. What's the point of having buttons that do just one thing and can't be changed?

Down at the core, I'm not entirely sure what the difference is more than Ubuntu seems to be a set-in-stone office use distro(if we look past ubuntu server).
I just prefer the documentation, and that when you google things the questions and answers seem to be better formulated if you replace it with "debian" in the query instead of "ubuntu".

I don't like Ubuntu one bit! Its desktop program is pure garbage, nor do I like the software it comes with. I checked out quite a few distros, so far in my opinion Mint is the best.
Title: Re: Hackintosh Anyone?
Post by: Shadow.97 on October 16, 2020, 11:18 PM
Zowie has amazing mice that dont use any software. Never had any issues with Linux with it.
Not had much issues with mice in general in linux honestly.

It's not the mouse, it's the software. It lets you program the buttons according to the game you're playing so you can keep your eyes on the screen and not chase down keyboard commands. There are, of course, different profiles according the the game (or app) you're on. All this works because I'm on Windows. Logitech (in my case) doesn't support Linux nor will it allow anyone to use its proprietary code to write a Linux app that allows you to program the mouse. I don't know of any other mouse that has Linux software. I don't know too much about Zowie, but based on what you're telling me there's no way to program the buttons. What's the point of having buttons that do just one thing and can't be changed?

Down at the core, I'm not entirely sure what the difference is more than Ubuntu seems to be a set-in-stone office use distro(if we look past ubuntu server).
I just prefer the documentation, and that when you google things the questions and answers seem to be better formulated if you replace it with "debian" in the query instead of "ubuntu".

I don't like Ubuntu one bit! Its desktop program is pure garbage, nor do I like the software it comes with. I checked out quite a few distros, so far in my opinion Mint is the best.
Mouse software is the abomination of all mice. You can still bind the buttons in games, and other software that are made for it.
If you need macros, there are better alternatives

On windows I'd use AHK software to make macros, or combine it with QMK.
On linux i'd use something like https://github.com/david-janssen/kmonad
Title: Re: Hackintosh Anyone?
Post by: humbert on October 17, 2020, 08:55 PM
Mouse software is the abomination of all mice. You can still bind the buttons in games, and other software that are made for it.
If you need macros, there are better alternatives

I had no idea you could write macros or use "3rd party software" to program mouse buttons. Can this be done in ALL mice? I'd think a big company like Logitech would go out of their way to prevent users from using anything but their software.

Why do you believe mouse software is an abomination? The Logitech software I use for my G300S works quite well. It just sits in the background and lets you do all kinds of thing with the mouse, including control the illumination and colors. I suppose my only complaint is that on my 4K display you almost need a magnifying glass to read it.
Title: Re: Hackintosh Anyone?
Post by: Shadow.97 on October 23, 2020, 12:18 AM
Mouse software is the abomination of all mice. You can still bind the buttons in games, and other software that are made for it.
If you need macros, there are better alternatives

I had no idea you could write macros or use "3rd party software" to program mouse buttons. Can this be done in ALL mice? I'd think a big company like Logitech would go out of their way to prevent users from using anything but their software.

Why do you believe mouse software is an abomination? The Logitech software I use for my G300S works quite well. It just sits in the background and lets you do all kinds of thing with the mouse, including control the illumination and colors. I suppose my only complaint is that on my 4K display you almost need a magnifying glass to read it.

Mice and keyboards are just something i'd like to plug in and not have to worry about.
Absolutely worst is Razer, it launches software when you just plug it in, and it requires a log in to use and the software is unstable and uses a good chunk of ram even when not in use, 150mb was claimed by the software. This may not be significant, but if you have a few different softwares because you swap mice, keyboards or so, it quickly adds up.
Every time I plugged their devices into a new USB port it asked me to install their software, and it forced all active applications to be tabbed down.

Why is it that we should give all the companies all this access. When in reality the companies could just go into some form of alliance and get it integrated into windows? We dont need separate software for every device we plug in.

And yes, I genuinely believe microsoft would do it if these software/hardware companies went into an alliance and pressured them. Or if they decided to man up and talk to each other to settle on one standard. They're often using the exact same hardware in their mice and keyboard, so why cant they just use a plugin-based software with skins that work for all mice and keyboards?

Until then, I'll use macros to rebind my keyboard, or sharpkeys. And on my mouse, I'll settle with the default keybinds and rebind it in games.
If they mouse has more than the default buttons, and I can set it to use other keys, I'll set it to f13-f24 in software, uninstall the software and use macros to rebind it in the future according to needs.
They can
Title: Re: Hackintosh Anyone?
Post by: humbert on October 23, 2020, 10:02 PM
What you've told me about Razer software is unbelievable! Logitech is nowhere near as intrusive. There is no login and if you want to control the mouse you have to activate the software yourself. I'll NEVER buy a Razer mouse. I can understand why you'd want to use macros.

And yes, I totally agree someone should force these companies to lay off the intrusiveness and support Linux. Even if you prefer macros, at least a reasonable version of mouse software is available.