As Windows 11 is confirmed to be a legit leak by many sources, and early builds already leaked to the public.
Do you see a reason to upgrade?
Do you like the visual changes?
Personally, I think it looks really good. My early understanding is that they are trying to actually tie things up with the integration to other devices, and make it a proper 'gaming' OS as well.
You can move the task bar to the furthest left as it's always been.
https://hexus.net/tech/news/software/147965-windows-11-leaks-iso-image-videos-screenshots-sounds/
Quote from: Shadow.97 on June 17, 2021, 03:13 AM
As Windows 11 is confirmed to be a legit leak by many sources, and early builds already leaked to the public.
I read about it yesterday. The release date is June 24th. Naturally M$ always "leaks" it to the public so everyone get a feel of it before the release date. They've been using this strategy since time immemorial and it works.
I saw some cosmetic changes and a few more [probably unnecessary] bells and whistles. I don't think it's anything out of this world.
With respect to me upgrading, I'll wait for Vasudev to work his magic and produce a working copy of Windows 11. Relax and be patient, I'm in no hurry. :)
I don't think Win 11 is ready for prime-time and its only a preview version.
Before 21H1 Win 10 is EOL I will release new W11 alongside scarface.
Quote from: Vasudev on June 22, 2021, 05:25 PM
I don't think Win 11 is ready for prime-time and its only a preview version.
Before 21H1 Win 10 is EOL I will release new W11 alongside scarface.
I'm in no hurry. I'll only install a working and texted copy coming from a trusted source like you.
Ever since I installed 21H1, Control Panels opens but there are no items in it. I tried enabling and disabling the proper settings on Group Policy Editor. I've also re-registered all DLL files in C:\Windows\System. The problem doesn't go away. The weird thing is that on my laptop was also upgraded to 21H1, Control Panel works perfectly. I'm not finding anything on Google. Any ideas?
Quote from: humbert on June 23, 2021, 05:21 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on June 22, 2021, 05:25 PM
I don't think Win 11 is ready for prime-time and its only a preview version.
Before 21H1 Win 10 is EOL I will release new W11 alongside scarface.
I'm in no hurry. I'll only install a working and texted copy coming from a trusted source like you.
Ever since I installed 21H1, Control Panels opens but there are no items in it. I tried enabling and disabling the proper settings on Group Policy Editor. I've also re-registered all DLL files in C:\Windows\System. The problem doesn't go away. The weird thing is that on my laptop was also upgraded to 21H1, Control Panel works perfectly. I'm not finding anything on Google. Any ideas?
I would try the classic (in cmd):
DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth
and (in cmd)
sfc /scannow
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/use-the-system-file-checker-tool-to-repair-missing-or-corrupted-system-files-79aa86cb-ca52-166a-92a3-966e85d4094e
At work, those commands do magic.
Quote from: Shadow.97 on June 24, 2021, 05:00 PM
DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth
and (in cmd)
sfc /scannow
The DISM command reported no anomalies. sfc /scannow found some corrupt files and fixed them. When opening control panel I still see an empty box with no icons in it. We all know this is some setting somewhere, the problem is finding it.
Oh well... the search continues.
Quote from: humbert on June 25, 2021, 04:42 AM
Quote from: Shadow.97 on June 24, 2021, 05:00 PM
DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth
and (in cmd)
sfc /scannow
The DISM command reported no anomalies. sfc /scannow found some corrupt files and fixed them. When opening control panel I still see an empty box with no icons in it. We all know this is some setting somewhere, the problem is finding it.
Oh well... the search continues.
Is there any image hijackers or apps that gives shortcut to control panel items?
For Win 7 I always use scarface's build since its much better and has lower size. Mine usually crosses 8GB and FAT32 USB drive won't boot in UEFI mode. After Ventoy was released ISO size became a thing of the past but some people use Rufus and 8GB ISO for Win 7 is nightmare on some older machines with slower USB 2.0 and HDD 5400rpm.
Win 11 will kill support for my old laptop since TPM 2.0 is unavailable on Ivybridge laptop. I think they are supported only modern CPUs Skylake, Ryzen and Qualcomm Snapdragon.
Quote from: Vasudev on June 25, 2021, 10:02 PM
Quote from: humbert on June 25, 2021, 04:42 AM
Quote from: Shadow.97 on June 24, 2021, 05:00 PM
DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth
and (in cmd)
sfc /scannow
The DISM command reported no anomalies. sfc /scannow found some corrupt files and fixed them. When opening control panel I still see an empty box with no icons in it. We all know this is some setting somewhere, the problem is finding it.
Oh well... the search continues.
Is there any image hijackers or apps that gives shortcut to control panel items?
For Win 7 I always use scarface's build since its much better and has lower size. Mine usually crosses 8GB and FAT32 USB drive won't boot in UEFI mode. After Ventoy was released ISO size became a thing of the past but some people use Rufus and 8GB ISO for Win 7 is nightmare on some older machines with slower USB 2.0 and HDD 5400rpm.
Win 11 will kill support for my old laptop since TPM 2.0 is unavailable on Ivybridge laptop. I think they are supported only modern CPUs Skylake, Ryzen and Qualcomm Snapdragon.
If you mean this, yes
https://community.windows.com/en-us/conversations/godmode-shortcut-east-access-to-all-windows-settings/ca66bf1c-66a6-4380-9513-3eb7068e912b?from=search
You can also find links to specific items in the control panel thru some googling. The links to them are created the same way as in this tutorial
Quote from: Shadow.97 on June 26, 2021, 01:16 AM
https://community.windows.com/en-us/conversations/godmode-shortcut-east-access-to-all-windows-settings/ca66bf1c-66a6-4380-9513-3eb7068e912b?from=search
You can also find links to specific items in the control panel thru some googling. The links to them are created the same way as in this tutorial
Yes, of course. The Godmode shortcut. I forgot all about it. It's OK. I noticed that there somehow there were quite a few .cpl files missing in the Windows/System32 folder. I decided to reinstall 21H2 keeping my files and that appeared to fix the problem. Somehow some important files and setting got deleted. The reinstall brought them all back.
It's a good idea to run sfc /scannow every few days. It always seems to find some corrupt files.
Quote from: humbert on June 26, 2021, 06:09 AM
Quote from: Shadow.97 on June 26, 2021, 01:16 AM
https://community.windows.com/en-us/conversations/godmode-shortcut-east-access-to-all-windows-settings/ca66bf1c-66a6-4380-9513-3eb7068e912b?from=search
You can also find links to specific items in the control panel thru some googling. The links to them are created the same way as in this tutorial
Yes, of course. The Godmode shortcut. I forgot all about it. It's OK. I noticed that there somehow there were quite a few .cpl files missing in the Windows/System32 folder. I decided to reinstall 21H2 keeping my files and that appeared to fix the problem. Somehow some important files and setting got deleted. The reinstall brought them all back.
It's a good idea to run sfc /scannow every few days. It always seems to find some corrupt files.
Yes shadow97 and humbert sometimes those .cpl shortcuts cause issues.
Check SSD health or run chkdsk /f /x c: Files missing isn't a good sign.
EDIT: Looks like Win 11 will not run on skylake/kabylake and also first gen Ryzen CPUs. So I don't think I will be able to release custom Win 11 ISOs but will continue with Win 10 ISO.
Quote from: Vasudev on June 26, 2021, 04:41 PM
Yes shadow97 and humbert sometimes those .cpl shortcuts cause issues.
Check SSD health or run chkdsk /f /x c: Files missing isn't a good sign.
I had to reinstall. Not a clean install, I set it to keep my files. It solved the problem. The strange thing was that since I had Windows Defender disabled, this thing took Emsisoft EEK and actually turned it into another Windows Defender. I had to uninstall and put back the portable one that has to be run on demand. The reason was it was constantly giving me false positives and interfering with any attempt to stop telemetry. That why I hate Windows Defender.
BTW, to uninstall I found a little goodie called HiBit Uninstaller. It's the best uninstaller I've ever seen and, best of all, it's total freeware. Check it out.
Quote from: Vasudev on June 26, 2021, 04:41 PM
EDIT: Looks like Win 11 will not run on skylake/kabylake and also first gen Ryzen CPUs. So I don't think I will be able to release custom Win 11 ISOs but will continue with Win 10 ISO.
I bet sooner or later all these bugs will be squashed. One thing I do like: there will be NO 32-bit release of Windows 11. It is all 64. Finally! This change is long overdue. Somewhere I heard that there are some distros of Linux who are doing the very same thing. How long has it been since anyone made a 32 bit CPU?
Quote from: Vasudev on June 26, 2021, 04:41 PM
Quote from: humbert on June 26, 2021, 06:09 AM
Quote from: Shadow.97 on June 26, 2021, 01:16 AM
https://community.windows.com/en-us/conversations/godmode-shortcut-east-access-to-all-windows-settings/ca66bf1c-66a6-4380-9513-3eb7068e912b?from=search
You can also find links to specific items in the control panel thru some googling. The links to them are created the same way as in this tutorial
Yes, of course. The Godmode shortcut. I forgot all about it. It's OK. I noticed that there somehow there were quite a few .cpl files missing in the Windows/System32 folder. I decided to reinstall 21H2 keeping my files and that appeared to fix the problem. Somehow some important files and setting got deleted. The reinstall brought them all back.
It's a good idea to run sfc /scannow every few days. It always seems to find some corrupt files.
Yes shadow97 and humbert sometimes those .cpl shortcuts cause issues.
Check SSD health or run chkdsk /f /x c: Files missing isn't a good sign.
EDIT: Looks like Win 11 will not run on skylake/kabylake and also first gen Ryzen CPUs. So I don't think I will be able to release custom Win 11 ISOs but will continue with Win 10 ISO.
I wouldn't worry :) If it runs on 2000 ryzen someone will surely find a way to make it run on 1000 ryzen
Quote from: humbert on June 27, 2021, 05:12 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on June 26, 2021, 04:41 PM
Yes shadow97 and humbert sometimes those .cpl shortcuts cause issues.
Check SSD health or run chkdsk /f /x c: Files missing isn't a good sign.
I had to reinstall. Not a clean install, I set it to keep my files. It solved the problem. The strange thing was that since I had Windows Defender disabled, this thing took Emsisoft EEK and actually turned it into another Windows Defender. I had to uninstall and put back the portable one that has to be run on demand. The reason was it was constantly giving me false positives and interfering with any attempt to stop telemetry. That why I hate Windows Defender.
BTW, to uninstall I found a little goodie called HiBit Uninstaller. It's the best uninstaller I've ever seen and, best of all, it's total freeware. Check it out.
Quote from: Vasudev on June 26, 2021, 04:41 PM
EDIT: Looks like Win 11 will not run on skylake/kabylake and also first gen Ryzen CPUs. So I don't think I will be able to release custom Win 11 ISOs but will continue with Win 10 ISO.
I bet sooner or later all these bugs will be squashed. One thing I do like: there will be NO 32-bit release of Windows 11. It is all 64. Finally! This change is long overdue. Somewhere I heard that there are some distros of Linux who are doing the very same thing. How long has it been since anyone made a 32 bit CPU?
I do use hibit nowadays. Except their reg cleaner all features are great! For registry I prefer Wise products.
Another problem with Windows 11 is Micro$haft's insistence of TPM 2.0 and (I believe) secure boot. Maybe I can live with TPM 2.0 assuming my board supports it. What I don't like is secure boot. I frequently boot from flashdrives to load Sergei Strelec's ISO plus a bunch of others according to need. As far as I know secure boot makes this impossible. I'd like to ask Micro$shaft what do I do if Windows won't boot and the only way to fix it is to boot Strelec to either attempt to fix it or do a full restore from backup.
BTW I'm thinking I might have to upgrade my laptop when Windows 11 goes full tilt. Hopefully it will not have Windows Home on it. You're forced to use a Microsoft account, which I hate to do.
Quote from: humbert on July 03, 2021, 04:55 AM
Another problem with Windows 11 is Micro$haft's insistence of TPM 2.0 and (I believe) secure boot. Maybe I can live with TPM 2.0 assuming my board supports it. What I don't like is secure boot. I frequently boot from flashdrives to load Sergei Strelec's ISO plus a bunch of others according to need. As far as I know secure boot makes this impossible. I'd like to ask Micro$shaft what do I do if Windows won't boot and the only way to fix it is to boot Strelec to either attempt to fix it or do a full restore from backup.
BTW I'm thinking I might have to upgrade my laptop when Windows 11 goes full tilt. Hopefully it will not have Windows Home on it. You're forced to use a Microsoft account, which I hate to do.
On my computer this secure boot is disabled since it won't let you install a modified version of windows 10 (which is the case for the version here: https://www.nomaher.com/forum/index.php?topic=3350.msg36418#msg36418). For the moment, I don't see windows 11 as a necessary update anyway.
Note that I'm preparing a surprise for humbert, Vasudev and the users of the forum. A lite windows 11 with many tweaks, will be available for download soon. It is being prepared.
Quote from: scarface on July 03, 2021, 09:41 PM
Note that I'm preparing a surprise for humbert, Vasudev and the users of the forum. A lite windows 11 with many tweaks, will be available for download soon. It is being prepared.
Awesome! I'll check it out on Virtualbox. Were you able to remove TPM and/or secure boot?
Quote from: humbert on July 04, 2021, 04:58 AM
Quote from: scarface on July 03, 2021, 09:41 PM
Note that I'm preparing a surprise for humbert, Vasudev and the users of the forum. A lite windows 11 with many tweaks, will be available for download soon. It is being prepared.
Awesome! I'll check it out on Virtualbox. Were you able to remove TPM and/or secure boot?
No.
Note that it was only tested under Vmware workstation v12.
Tonight, Windows 11 x64 pro v21996 is available on forum.
It contains basically the same content as in the version of Windows 10 availabe on the forum: many reg tweaks, netfx 3.5, netfx 4.8, dx9 and 12 and many more programs like the latest releases of vlc, firefox, handbrake, cdisplay, Sumatra, 7zip 19.00, winrar 6.00, Treesize free, Visual C++ Redist, the game "Mastermind" and Ultraiso (full version), Subtitles Edit v3.6.1.0...
Fx sound enhancer v13.028 was added (full version).
New programs installed silently: mediacoder 0.8.61 (modified edition), Psychopinball (by Fuj), Smartcopy, Grand dictionnaire Hachette Oxford, Remove empty directories, WiseDuplicatefinder, Ant renamer, Pinball, LameXP, Belatout, Easeus Partition Master 13.8.
HDD programs: HDD low level format, HD tune pro.
Nothing was deleted in winsxs and to obtain such a size, install.wim was converted into esd.
Windows defender is disabled by default but can be re-enabled again via gpedit.msc.
This version is activated.
Unlike Windows 10, no drivers were integrated.
A classic version of the start menu was restored.
Size: 3.52 Gb
Link: https://mega.nz/file/VE8miABb#Jv-1Fcl-NX3C_WK_APfs-kf3LHP8kXlge8z0qT9UK0w
(https://i.ibb.co/XVTBRtW/win11.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/vwM2Tcb/baboon2.jpg)
Quote from: scarface on July 04, 2021, 09:30 AM
Tonight, Windows 11 x64 pro v21996 is available on forum.
It contains basically the same content as in the version of Windows 10 availabe on the forum: many reg tweaks, netfx 3.5, netfx 4.8, dx9 and 12 and many more programs like the latest releases of vlc, firefox, handbrake, cdisplay, Sumatra, 7zip 19.00, winrar 6.00, Treesize free, Visual C++ Redist, the game "Mastermind" and Ultraiso (full version), Subtitles Edit v3.6.1.0...
Fx sound enhancer v13.028 was added (full version).
New programs installed silently: mediacoder 0.8.61 (modified edition), Psychopinball (by Fuj), Smartcopy, Grand dictionnaire Hachette Oxford, Remove empty directories, WiseDuplicatefinder, Ant renamer, Pinball, LameXP, Belatout, Easeus Partition Master 13.8.
HDD programs: HDD low level format, HD tune pro.
Nothing was deleted in winsxs and to obtain such a size, install.wim was converted into esd.
Windows defender is disabled by default but can be re-enabled again via gpedit.msc.
This version is activated.
Unlike Windows 10, no drivers were integrated.
A classic version of the start menu was restored.
Size: 3.52 Gb
Link: https://mega.nz/file/pYlkUKwY#G7HguN2thUdW2fgwIRtcKGqdFn_Uy_PWPrxyQcRo6Ac
(https://i.ibb.co/XVTBRtW/win11.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/vwM2Tcb/baboon2.jpg)
Is this based on the insider version or leaked?
Scarface -> Does the version of Windows 11 you posted nag you about TPM or did you somehow disable that? Also, all those other programs you mentioned that are on there. Did you put them there or did they come with the OS? I'm asking because I know Micro$haft loves to preload all kinds of unnecessary garbage on their OS'. Naturally they get paid by the vermin who develop this unwanted garbage.
I'm not too clear about what TPM actually does or if it somehow interferes with what you. Secure boot is a major problem. What if you need to boot from a flashdrive to do a full restore - or anything else, for that matter? Does this mean you can't restore? What about those people who run dual boot, i.e., Windows and a distro of Linux? Can't do that either? Hopefully somebody will figure a way to disable these annoyances.
I have had far, far more problems with these "security" protocols than whatever they're trying to protect me from.
With respect to your comment about Windows 11 not being really needed, you're correct. Remember, however, that if history has taught us anything it's that upgrades are an inevitable fact of life. Ask those die-hard XP lovers, not to even mention those who were addicted to MS-Dos.
Quote from: Shadow.97 on July 05, 2021, 05:57 AM
Is this based on the insider version or leaked?
I think It's a leaked version. Allegedly, it can be considered as a RTM version because the core of the OS is complete.
Quote from: humbert on July 05, 2021, 06:29 AM
Scarface -> Does the version of Windows 11 you posted nag you about TPM or did you somehow disable that? Also, all those other programs you mentioned that are on there. Did you put them there or did they come with the OS? I'm asking because I know Micro$haft loves to preload all kinds of unnecessary garbage on their OS'. Naturally they get paid by the vermin who develop this unwanted garbage.
I'm not too clear about what TPM actually does or if it somehow interferes with what you. Secure boot is a major problem. What if you need to boot from a flashdrive to do a full restore - or anything else, for that matter? Does this mean you can't restore? What about those people who run dual boot, i.e., Windows and a distro of Linux? Can't do that either? Hopefully somebody will figure a way to disable these annoyances.
I have had far, far more problems with these "security" protocols than whatever they're trying to protect me from.
With respect to your comment about Windows 11 not being really needed, you're correct. Remember, however, that if history has taught us anything it's that upgrades are an inevitable fact of life. Ask those die-hard XP lovers, not to even mention those who were addicted to MS-Dos.
Under vmware, I had no problem whatsoever. However there is no secure boot in the bios of Vmware v12 since it's an old version. I didn't have to do anything about this TPM either, but my computer is probably compatible. It can be bypassed anyway: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/how-to-bypass-the-windows-11-tpm-20-requirement/
If you want to check if your computer is compatible, you can use this: https://www.techspot.com/downloads/7416-windows-11-compatibility-tool.html
Mine is not compatible because it says the PC must support secure boot. I use legacy boot because in order to boot a modified version of windows it is required. Therefore if secure boot is needed for this version, I'm not sure this version can be installed, I'll try this on vmware 16.
Of course the programs did not come with the OS, but you can still delete the $OEM$ folder (roughly 400mb saved) if you don't want them. Some programs were installed via sysprep and are included in the esd image, essentially the small ones like winrar or 7zip...
Quote from: humbert on July 05, 2021, 06:29 AM
I'm not too clear about what TPM actually does or if it somehow interferes with what you. Secure boot is a major problem. What if you need to boot from a flashdrive to do a full restore - or anything else, for that matter? Does this mean you can't restore? What about those people who run dual boot, i.e., Windows and a distro of Linux? Can't do that either? Hopefully somebody will figure a way to disable these annoyances.
Apparently you won't be able to install this with old processors. But I think that windows 10 is largely sufficient in case you have an old intel Skylake or Haswell.
Note that I tried to install it and I was a bit surprised to see that the installation was working with a disabled secure boot. But I didn't proceed with the installation.
I used to make usb keys with the NTFS format and I remember that I had to use legacy mode in order to boot the key (with windows 10 at least). This time I used Rufus to make the usb key, and I used the Fat32 format as explained in this message, it worked: https://superuser.com/questions/1610967/how-to-slipstream-windows-10-with-uefi-and-secure-boot-enabled/1610968#1610968
Quote from: scarface on July 05, 2021, 02:34 PM
Note that I tried to install it and I was a bit surprised to see that the installation was working with a disabled secure boot. But I didn't proceed with the installation.
I used to make usb keys with the NTFS format and I remember that I had to use legacy mode in order to boot the key (with windows 10 at least). This time I used Rufus to make the usb key, and I used the Fat32 format as explained in this message, it worked: https://superuser.com/questions/1610967/how-to-slipstream-windows-10-with-uefi-and-secure-boot-enabled/1610968#1610968
What I can't understand about this secure boot garbage is this: what if your copy of Windows 11 became so damaged it won't boot, but FORTUNATELY you made a backup. How do you boot from a USB drive (or any other media) to access the backup file and do a full restore from it?
Quote from: scarface on July 05, 2021, 02:34 PM
What I can't understand about this secure boot garbage is this: what if your copy of Windows 11 became so damaged it won't boot, but FORTUNATELY you made a backup. How do you boot from a USB drive (or any other media) to access the backup file and do a full restore from it?
I might be wrong but secure boot is probably only used for the installation support (at least for windows 10, I don't know what's in store for the new version), preventing you from installing from an unverified support. Apparently, usb keys formatted with a Fat 32 format can be booted while secure boot is on but not NTFS, that's why I had problems the last time I did an installation with a NTFS formatted key till I disabled secure boot.
In my opinion, this tpm 2 might be a sleight of hand to prompt consumers to buy new hardware. I'm pretty sure that 10 year-old computers would be able to run windows 11.
Note that the version of windows 11 above was updated, with TPM 2 and secure boot checks disabled: https://mega.nz/file/VE8miABb#Jv-1Fcl-NX3C_WK_APfs-kf3LHP8kXlge8z0qT9UK0w
Quote from: scarface on July 09, 2021, 01:09 AM
Note that the version of windows 11 above was updated, with TPM 2 and secure boot checks disabled: https://mega.nz/file/VE8miABb#Jv-1Fcl-NX3C_WK_APfs-kf3LHP8kXlge8z0qT9UK0w
How did you manage to disable TPM 2.0 and secure boot? I thought this was hard coded into the OS.
I remember not to long ago Shadow predicted that someone will find a way to make Windows 11 work on just about any PC that can run Windows 10 - not to mention TPM 2.0 and secure boot. Let's hope both he and you are right. These restrictions are oppressive.
Quote from: humbert on July 10, 2021, 04:58 AM
How did you manage to disable TPM 2.0 and secure boot? I thought this was hard coded into the OS.
I remember not to long ago Shadow predicted that someone will find a way to make Windows 11 work on just about any PC that can run Windows 10 - not to mention TPM 2.0 and secure boot. Let's hope both he and you are right. These restrictions are oppressive.
Actually, the solution was on the website "winaero.com" and it wasn't difficult:
Replace install.esd in the official Windows 10 ISO:
Go to the official Windows 10 website and download Media Creation Tool. Use is to download Windows 10 ISO for your computer. Skip this step if you already have one
Open the downloaded Windows 10 ISO image in UltraISO.
Delete the existing sources\install.esd file you see in UltraISO.
Drag and drop the X:\Path\install.esd you have created onto the UltraISO window to place it instead of the deleted file.
Click on Save or press Ctrl + S in UltraISO to alter the ISO image.
Now you have a fresh Windows 11 ISO file ready for installation on computers without TPM 2.0. Install it as a regular Windows 10.
Yes, I went to that site and noticed that there were actually 2 ways to disable TPM. Notice that the date on that article is June 21, 3 days before the official release. Clearly Micro$oft is backpedaling on all this, otherwise it would be much harder to disable TPM if not impossible.
I installed Scarface's Win11 as a VM with VirtualBox. It installed in less than 5 minutes without a hitch, which is unprecedented. I noticed that the Win11 VM runs faster and smoother than Win10. If indeed this new OS requires a newer and stronger CPU to run, then how is it that runs faster than its predecessor on a virtual machine where performance is always less than on a host computer? I'm convinced these restrictions are artificially imposed to get everybody to upgrade and will eventually be disabled the same way TPM was.
As is always the case, the amount of unnecessary, pre-loaded garbage is monumental. You have to put Hibit Uninstaller and delete, delete, delete, delete! Even then you can't get it all. There are garbage programs that don't even appear in Control Panel's "Programs and Features" page. I'd guess you have to go into their folders and look for an uninstaller. If none is there then delete the directory, look in the Appdata folder for more stuff, and clean the registry. What is most irritating is that it's not enough the Micro$oft pre-loads this trash, they actually want you to use it!
I'm sure you all agree that it's way too early to move to Win11. Let's let developers find ways to manage this thing and get it to work the way is should.
Quote from: humbert on July 11, 2021, 05:51 AM
Yes, I went to that site and noticed that there were actually 2 ways to disable TPM. Notice that the date on that article is June 21, 3 days before the official release. Clearly Micro$oft is backpedaling on all this, otherwise it would be much harder to disable TPM if not impossible.
I installed Scarface's Win11 as a VM with VirtualBox. It installed in less than 5 minutes without a hitch, which is unprecedented. I noticed that the Win11 VM runs faster and smoother than Win10. If indeed this new OS requires a newer and stronger CPU to run, then how is it that runs faster than its predecessor on a virtual machine where performance is always less than on a host computer? I'm convinced these restrictions are artificially imposed to get everybody to upgrade and will eventually be disabled the same way TPM was.
As is always the case, the amount of unnecessary, pre-loaded garbage is monumental. You have to put Hibit Uninstaller and delete, delete, delete, delete! Even then you can't get it all. There are garbage programs that don't even appear in Control Panel's "Programs and Features" page. I'd guess you have to go into their folders and look for an uninstaller. If none is there then delete the directory, look in the Appdata folder for more stuff, and clean the registry. What is most irritating is that it's not enough the Micro$oft pre-loads this trash, they actually want you to use it!
I'm sure you all agree that it's way too early to move to Win11. Let's let developers find ways to manage this thing and get it to work the way is should.
Besides the windowsapps in Programfiles, I'm afraid "the amount of unnecessary, pre-loaded garbage" you're talking about are the programs I added.
What's more your desperate tone in the following sentence: "You have to put Hibit Uninstaller and delete, delete, delete, delete! Even then you can't get it all. There are garbage programs that don't even appear in Control Panel's "Programs and Features" page" is confirming my fears.
Some of them are in "c:/^programs" and I created the installers myself. Those installers are pretty simple and there is no uninstaller indeed (you can delete the folders directly in "programs").
But many of these programs can be needed. Otherwise they wouldn't be there. Let's talk about the game Belatout, which is not the most necessary of them.
Now Let's imagine one party in the backyard of humbert's house. humbert has welcomed Maher, shadow.97, vasudev and scarface. In San Antonio the weather is hot and we are watching the final of Wimbledon. All the proper items, finger food, biscuits and other little delicacies are on the table for an aperitif. After a pastis tomate, Maher and shadow .97 are ready to talk about their new hardware, while Vasudev preferred a Perroquet, made of Pastis with mint syrup. Served neat pastis has 45% alcohol by volume, and most drinkers add 4 parts of cool water.
We are now discussing the "pre-loaded garbage" that humbert has found in Windows 11. All this is not coming with the original version, it was added by me but humbert forgot to remove the $oem$ folder with ultraiso, just the way I told him to. However, he noticed that the game belatout was on his computer. He could have played with the French version, but he chose to switch the language to English in the preferences. After 2 glasses of Pastis, Maher, shadow.97, humbert and I were finally ready to play Belote coinchée.
Thanks to Belatout, humbert has become an expert at Belote.
Meanwhile, Vasudev is heating a barbecue until the coals are glowing hot. Then he's laying the Figatelli next to each other. The evening promises to be festive.
I wasn't referring only to the software you installed on Win11. I was also refering to Micro$oft's garbage, many of which cannot be uninstalled unless you hack into the system with powershell. In any event this business of installing SIDWADN (software I don't want and don't need) is endemic to just about any operating system on any platform. Every day it gets worse and worse. You have to spend hours simply getting rid of this sewage or at least disabling it. Additionally, the OS manufacturers do everything in their power so you will actually USE their gargabe.
It would make more sense to give us a clean OS and put an icon on the desktop that says "recommended programs" with all the links. This gives the user and option to pick and choose what they want and skip over stuff that will never be used and does nothing more than take up hard drive space. The other option is to sit here and spend hours taking out the trash. Maybe YOU find these programs useful, but many of us do not and would rather decide for ourselves what we want.
Handbrake is my favorite example. As I understand it this programs is very processor intensive. Nobody on this forum is dumb enough to make Win11 their primary OS - it's too early for that. Those who download it will probably play around with it on a VM. Who in their right mind going to run Handbrake on a VM?
Quote from: humbert on July 12, 2021, 04:53 AM
Handbrake is my favorite example. As I understand it this programs is very processor intensive. Nobody on this forum is dumb enough to make Win11 their primary OS - it's too early for that. Those who download it will probably play around with it on a VM. Who in their right mind going to run Handbrake on a VM?
Actually I added Handbrake and I agree with you, it's not useful to use it in a Virtual Machine. By the way it's probably not a program that we are going to use on a regular basis.
Apparently you have been impressed by windows 11, maybe you'll install it anyway.
Besides my programs, windows 11 comes up with useless stuff (maybe I should get rid of the useless shortcuts for office in the start menu).
Note that according to techspot, there is practically no difference between Windows 10 and windows 11:
https://www.techspot.com/article/2278-windows-11-benchmark/
Quote from: scarface on July 12, 2021, 08:50 AM
Apparently you have been impressed by windows 11, maybe you'll install it anyway.
Like I said, it's too soon for that. Let's let some time pass so that M$ can bring out some updates to generally make it better. Also -- and very important -- let's wait for developers to come out with software to manage W11. For example, Windows 10 Privacy must become Windows 11 Privacy and Yamicsoft's Windows 10 Manager must turn into W11 Manager. I especially love W10(11) Privacy -- it stops telemetry and it's an awesome garbage remover.
Quote from: scarface on July 12, 2021, 08:50 AM
Besides my programs, windows 11 comes up with useless stuff (maybe I should get rid of the useless shortcuts for office in the start menu).
Exactly. You will save tons of time by simply putting an icon on the desktop for links with programs you recommend. This gives the user the option to pick and choose according to his needs. It also saves the rest of us plenty of time since we don't have to spend time deleting stuff that we do not want and will never use. Naturally I refer only to your stuff, garbage installed by M$ you don't control. Speaking of M$ bloat, there is now stuff that cannot be deleted by right click-uninstall. Of course it's not impossible to delete them, you just have to use powershell.
Quote from: scarface on July 12, 2021, 08:50 AM
Note that according to techspot, there is practically no difference between Windows 10 and windows 11:
https://www.techspot.com/article/2278-windows-11-benchmark/
I agree. All M$ is doing is adding restrictions and bloat, and of course companies actually have to pay for the OS (never us, we don't pay).
BTW, in the techspot article and often here, they keep using the word "leaked". It gives the impression some rogue employee or a North Korean hacker somehow penetrated M$ servers, stole a top secret copy of the ISO and uploaded it everywhere. Really?? Then why it is that M$ source code has NEVER been leaked? When will people finally understand that it is
Micro$oft themselves who leak it? This has been their winning strategy since the day Bill Gate$ and Paul Allen started the company.
Quote from: humbert on July 11, 2021, 05:51 AM
Yes, I went to that site and noticed that there were actually 2 ways to disable TPM. Notice that the date on that article is June 21, 3 days before the official release. Clearly Micro$oft is backpedaling on all this, otherwise it would be much harder to disable TPM if not impossible.
I installed Scarface's Win11 as a VM with VirtualBox. It installed in less than 5 minutes without a hitch, which is unprecedented. I noticed that the Win11 VM runs faster and smoother than Win10. If indeed this new OS requires a newer and stronger CPU to run, then how is it that runs faster than its predecessor on a virtual machine where performance is always less than on a host computer? I'm convinced these restrictions are artificially imposed to get everybody to upgrade and will eventually be disabled the same way TPM was.
I think you might be mistaken. Windows 11 was announced on the 24th of June 2021, but it is not the release date. Windows 11 will be out "this holiday season", and there is no official date yet, so likely sometime between late November and December.
I've been a bit disappointed so far. Windows 11 is not really revolutionary. You can read this article if you want to know what's new: https://medium.com/nerd-for-tech/windows-11-the-revolutionary-new-skin-for-windows-10-d48a08d33e80
I remember that I downloaded Windows xp with a 56k modem in late 2001. At this time I was using windows ME. Maybe Maher, aa1234779 or Vasudev remember this old OS.
windows ME:
(https://www.zebulon.fr/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/Windows-ME.png)
Some users experienced problems with it: https://paleotronic.com/2020/10/09/the-scourge-of-windows-millennium-edition/
So I was very excited to get and install this new windows XP, and it was more stable than windows 98 or windows ME indeed. From what I've seen so far, I doubt Windows 11 will be better than windows 10 (or windows 7). Note that I didn't like the new start menu and I restored the classic one with the registry entry "Start_ShowClassicMode" (The program "classic start menu" wasn't working). What's more, the Run command in the start menu had disappeared, which is a real problem.
I'm sure you're right. June 24th was the introduction of Win11 but not the official release. It's pretty much common knowledge that Win11 is nothing more than W10 with new bloatware and restrictions. Despite this, eventually upgrading will become necessary - we all know why. Naturally now is not the time. Let M$ improve it and let the hackers break into it and remove the limitations. Nobody knows when that will be, but there's no rush. For now W10 remains the OS of choice.
I tried Windows ME and hated it since the day I saw it. I went back to Win98 and immediately downloaded XP when it came out. By then cable "broadband" was available in my neighborhood at a blazing 3Mbps down and 1 Mbps up. I also remember everybody being concerned because M$ had put a new security system to deter piracy. I refer to those keys that had to be typed in. As if always the case, before you know it there were more working fake keys than copies of XP -- just like M$ wanted it.
Quote from: scarface on July 15, 2021, 06:52 PM
(or windows 7). Note that I didn't like the new start menu and I restored the classic one with the registry entry "Start_ShowClassicMode" (The program "classic start menu" wasn't working). What's more, the Run command in the start menu had disappeared, which is a real problem.
Win+R is a workaround for now :)
As most of you know by now, M$oft has had to back away from this garbage of Windows 11 working only on late model CPU's. Check out https://www.howtogeek.com/751960/microsoft-backs-down-windows-11-will-run-on-any-pc (https://www.howtogeek.com/751960/microsoft-backs-down-windows-11-will-run-on-any-pc) for further details. When I first tested this thing on VirtualBox I realized this requirement was pure garbage. What sense does it make that a supposedly power-hungry OS runs better and faster under a virtual machine than Windows 10? It's also easy to disable the TPM and secure boot requirements. Whether M$ will close this hole remains to be seen, but rest assured if that happens somebody will find a way to reopen it.
Quote from: humbert on August 29, 2021, 05:08 AM
As most of you know by now, M$oft has had to back away from this garbage of Windows 11 working only on late model CPU's. Check out https://www.howtogeek.com/751960/microsoft-backs-down-windows-11-will-run-on-any-pc (https://www.howtogeek.com/751960/microsoft-backs-down-windows-11-will-run-on-any-pc) for further details. When I first tested this thing on VirtualBox I realized this requirement was pure garbage. What sense does it make that a supposedly power-hungry OS runs better and faster under a virtual machine than Windows 10? It's also easy to disable the TPM and secure boot requirements. Whether M$ will close this hole remains to be seen, but rest assured if that happens somebody will find a way to reopen it.
It seems Skylake and 1st gen Ryzen are denied entries on based on some virtualisation features slowing it down.
Quote from: Vasudev on August 30, 2021, 05:21 PM
It seems Skylake and 1st gen Ryzen are denied entries on based on some virtualisation features slowing it down.
Does that mean they won't run at full potential or what? The article basically says if it runs on W10 it'll run on W11. Now I read someplace that if it's an old CPU M$ won't provide security updates. So far the problem with W11 is you don't know what lie to believe. Be that as it may, it's still way too early to really give any of this serious consideration.
Do I remember correctly or did M$ say W10 would be the last major upgrade?
As most of you know by now, W11 is scheduled for launch on October 5, 2021. There's a great deal of talk about Windows 11 enforcing TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot. For now it can be disabled with a registry hack, although it's believed M$ might close that loophole.
Here's where I'm confused. Supposedly the whole idea of secure boot is to prevent you from booting anything other than Windows or some other "authorized" operating system. Suppose something nasty happens to my copy of W11 and it refuses to boot. Fortunately I have a backup file on another drive made with Macrium Reflect by using Sergei Strelec's Windows PE. How do I boot Sergei's ISO from a flashdrive in order to restore the backup if secure boot has me locked out?
Quote from: humbert on August 31, 2021, 04:21 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on August 30, 2021, 05:21 PM
It seems Skylake and 1st gen Ryzen are denied entries on based on some virtualisation features slowing it down.
Does that mean they won't run at full potential or what? The article basically says if it runs on W10 it'll run on W11. Now I read someplace that if it's an old CPU M$ won't provide security updates. So far the problem with W11 is you don't know what lie to believe. Be that as it may, it's still way too early to really give any of this serious consideration.
Do I remember correctly or did M$ say W10 would be the last major upgrade?
They won't support it officially and updates are disabled for unsupported hardware due to lack of security features besides TPMs. Some features are HVCI or something that can run apps under virtualization w/o taking a severe perf. hit. MSft just added Surface Studio 2 to compatible list since it has necessary hardware.
It seems the only thing to do is wait until October 5 -- not to install W11 but rather to see what M$ decided to do and to what extent hackers were able to disable these "features". In the mean time everything is nothing more than speculation. This is especially true when M$ keeps making changes and changes and changes.
Just like the rest of you, I intend to install 11 when all these questions are answered AND I can boot from flashdrive when Windows doesn't boot and requires a full restore. No matter how much I googled it, I can't find an answer to my question about booting from flashdrive when W11 refuses to boot.
Quote from: humbert on September 03, 2021, 04:51 AM
It seems the only thing to do is wait until October 5 -- not to install W11 but rather to see what M$ decided to do and to what extent hackers were able to disable these "features". In the mean time everything is nothing more than speculation. This is especially true when M$ keeps making changes and changes and changes.
Just like the rest of you, I intend to install 11 when all these questions are answered AND I can boot from flashdrive when Windows doesn't boot and requires a full restore. No matter how much I googled it, I can't find an answer to my question about booting from flashdrive when W11 refuses to boot.
That's really an odd issue with flash drive not booting with Win 11.
Quote from: Vasudev on September 04, 2021, 05:20 PM
That's really an odd issue with flash drive not booting with Win 11.
M$oft has been saying for quite a while that W11 will run only if TPM 2.0 and secure boot are enabled. So far this is easy to disable. I just googled it and found at least 3 ways. The question now becomes whether or not M$oft will close these loopholes by the time the official release is out. With M$ it's more important to listen to what they're NOT saying. They keep insisting about mandatory secure boot with no mention of closing loopholes -- at least not as of this writing.
Here's what I don't understand. As I see it the whole idea behind secure boot is to lock out OS's other than the one registered in the BIOS. The question now becomes: suppose your OS is damaged to a point where it won't boot and the only solution is to restore from an image backup file. This requires booting from a flashdrive. How do you do that when all other OS's are locked out? Could you go into the BIOS, disable secure boot, then re-enable it to boot your primary OS? If so then what kind of security is this when to boot another OS you can simply disable secure boot in the BIOS?
Is all this correct or am I wrong somewhere?
As you all know by now, everybody keeps talking about Windows 11's restrictions (secure boot, TPM, RAM, etc.). Take a look at this link (https://www.ghacks.net/2021/10/11/disable-tpm-secure-boot-and-ram-requirements-for-windows-11) and you'll see how all restrictions can be easily removed with the latest version of Rufus.
Ever since they opened for business in 1981, Micro$oft's strategy has been to impose restrictions but always leave the door slightly open so we computer geeks can go in and eliminate them. This insures that Windows remains on as many computers as possible while at the same time collecting more money from those who don't know better. It is precisely this sort of thing that has kept them at the very top. Why change it? One thing is for sure: I refuse to believe Micro$oft doesn't know what Rufus has done. They sit back and pretend they don't.
Incidentally, can you burn the original ISO to a flashdrive to remove the restrictions then create a bootable ISO of the flashdrive with PowerISO or some other program?
Quote from: humbert on October 13, 2021, 06:08 AM
As you all know by now, everybody keeps talking about Windows 11's restrictions (secure boot, TPM, RAM, etc.). Take a look at this link (https://www.ghacks.net/2021/10/11/disable-tpm-secure-boot-and-ram-requirements-for-windows-11) and you'll see how all restrictions can be easily removed with the latest version of Rufus.
Ever since they opened for business in 1981, Micro$oft's strategy has been to impose restrictions but always leave the door slightly open so we computer geeks can go in and eliminate them. This insures that Windows remains on as many computers as possible while at the same time collecting more money from those who don't know better. It is precisely this sort of thing that has kept them at the very top. Why change it? One thing is for sure: I refuse to believe Micro$oft doesn't know what Rufus has done. They sit back and pretend they don't.
Incidentally, can you burn the original ISO to a flashdrive to remove the restrictions then create a bootable ISO of the flashdrive with PowerISO or some other program?
They will allow W11 to gain huge market share over W10 and then stop the patch from working, at that time people already got used to W11 features that they will buy a new device or supported older device until W12 comes out in another 5 yrs.
Quote from: Vasudev on October 13, 2021, 06:51 PM
They will allow W11 to gain huge market share over W10 and then stop the patch from working, at that time people already got used to W11 features that they will buy a new device or supported older device until W12 comes out in another 5 yrs.
You're correct. In all probability that's what they're going to do.
I've asked this many times. I've googled it and have yet to find a satisfactory answer. Suppose you're running W11 with secure boot enabled and your system won't boot? You DO have a backup, but to restore it you have to boot from flashdrive. Is your flashdrive locked out? Could you simply disable secure boot and re-enable it when you're done? What if all you want to do is look at a distro of linux as a live CD?
I'm not too clear on TPM either. I looked at my motherboard's manual. All it tells you is the menu item where you can set the TPM module. Is this just switching it off or on, or is there more to it?
Quote from: humbert on October 14, 2021, 06:08 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on October 13, 2021, 06:51 PM
They will allow W11 to gain huge market share over W10 and then stop the patch from working, at that time people already got used to W11 features that they will buy a new device or supported older device until W12 comes out in another 5 yrs.
You're correct. In all probability that's what they're going to do.
I've asked this many times. I've googled it and have yet to find a satisfactory answer. Suppose you're running W11 with secure boot enabled and your system won't boot? You DO have a backup, but to restore it you have to boot from flashdrive. Is your flashdrive locked out? Could you simply disable secure boot and re-enable it when you're done? What if all you want to do is look at a distro of linux as a live CD?
I'm not too clear on TPM either. I looked at my motherboard's manual. All it tells you is the menu item where you can set the TPM module. Is this just switching it off or on, or is there more to it?
What W11 wants TPM is to enable Disk Encryption, handle password generation/random numbers using discrete TPM used in Business class desktops/laptops. I do have TPM, Secure boot but CPU is 6700 which is unsupported
Quote from: Vasudev on October 18, 2021, 05:10 PM
What W11 wants TPM is to enable Disk Encryption, handle password generation/random numbers using discrete TPM used in Business class desktops/laptops. I do have TPM, Secure boot but CPU is 6700 which is unsupported.
In your case it's just the CPU. TPM and secure boot have been out for quite a while now.
I'm not too clear about the part regarding password generation. Does this mean every password we use must be generated by the TPM in the motherboard? If in order the enter the BIOS (or UEFI), will we now be forced to use a password to get in, and, will TPM generate it?
Sadly we still don't have an answer to my primary question. Say you have secure boot enabled but your OS won't boot and you must boot from Sergei Strelec's ISO to restore a Macrium Reflect image. If we are prevented from doing that, then how do we rescue our system?
Quote from: humbert on October 19, 2021, 04:42 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on October 18, 2021, 05:10 PM
What W11 wants TPM is to enable Disk Encryption, handle password generation/random numbers using discrete TPM used in Business class desktops/laptops. I do have TPM, Secure boot but CPU is 6700 which is unsupported.
In your case it's just the CPU. TPM and secure boot have been out for quite a while now.
I'm not too clear about the part regarding password generation. Does this mean every password we use must be generated by the TPM in the motherboard? If in order the enter the BIOS (or UEFI), will we now be forced to use a password to get in, and, will TPM generate it?
Sadly we still don't have an answer to my primary question. Say you have secure boot enabled but your OS won't boot and you must boot from Sergei Strelec's ISO to restore a Macrium Reflect image. If we are prevented from doing that, then how do we rescue our system?
We can switch Secure to custom mode and add our USB boot media and it works even with Secure boot enabled since it whitelists our device.
Password generation is similar to how mobile or ARM64 does same concept which resides outside the control of OS and most attempts to read/write the data from those chips/regions are blocked. So not connected to BIOS password generation.
Quote from: Vasudev on October 24, 2021, 05:50 PM
We can switch Secure to custom mode and add our USB boot media and it works even with Secure boot enabled since it whitelists our device.
So to do this you'd have to boot into the BIOS and then insert the flashdrive?
Also, does secure boot authorize the device itself or the OS that's on it? Say the flashdrive you authorized had Strelec's PE on it. If I reformatted that same device and installed Parted Magic, would it boot?
Quote from: Vasudev on October 24, 2021, 05:50 PM
Password generation is similar to how mobile or ARM64 does same concept which resides outside the control of OS and most attempts to read/write the data from those chips/regions are blocked. So not connected to BIOS password generation.
Are you saying this is the password that gets you into the BIOS and not related to anything done on the OS? Also, when secure boot and TPM are enabled, are you forced to use a password to get into the BIOS? If you lose the password must you open the case and remove the coin battery or something similar?
Quote from: humbert on October 25, 2021, 05:20 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on October 24, 2021, 05:50 PM
We can switch Secure to custom mode and add our USB boot media and it works even with Secure boot enabled since it whitelists our device.
So to do this you'd have to boot into the BIOS and then insert the flashdrive?
Also, does secure boot authorize the device itself or the OS that's on it? Say the flashdrive you authorized had Strelec's PE on it. If I reformatted that same device and installed Parted Magic, would it boot?
Quote from: Vasudev on October 24, 2021, 05:50 PM
Password generation is similar to how mobile or ARM64 does same concept which resides outside the control of OS and most attempts to read/write the data from those chips/regions are blocked. So not connected to BIOS password generation.
Are you saying this is the password that gets you into the BIOS and not related to anything done on the OS? Also, when secure boot and TPM are enabled, are you forced to use a password to get into the BIOS? If you lose the password must you open the case and remove the coin battery or something similar?
I use Ventoy nowadays so while you reformat the drive you may need to whitelist it again!
With newer TPMs even removing coin-cell won't erase the data since it will be stored on EEPROM. If the TPM can store password securely if vendors have implemented it; otherwise the BIOS and OS might use the hardware acceleration to generate a password which cryptographically secure.
Quote from: Vasudev on October 26, 2021, 09:47 PM
I use Ventoy nowadays so while you reformat the drive you may need to whitelist it again!
I was looking at their site but I'm not too clear what Ventoy does. Is this another Rufus or different?
Quote from: Vasudev on October 26, 2021, 09:47 PM
With newer TPMs even removing coin-cell won't erase the data since it will be stored on EEPROM. If the TPM can store password securely if vendors have implemented it; otherwise the BIOS and OS might use the hardware acceleration to generate a password which cryptographically secure.
What happens if you lose your password or simply sell your board?
From now on, I will post the new versions of Windows 11 & 10 in this topic.
I consider that "Windows 7 Component Store Cleanup - Rebase" should be cleaned. At least I will remove some of my own posts to avoid the duplicate messages...
Today, new versions of Windows 7 x64, Windows 10 x64 pro v21H2 and Windows 11 with every updates till August 2023 are available on the forum.
As usual, they contain many reg tweaks, netfx 3.5, netfx 4.8, Net 6 & 7 desktop runtime, dx9 (and 12), 7zip 23.01, winrar 6.22, Treesize free, Visual C++ Redist, Ultraiso (full version), Subtitles Edit...
Fx sound enhancer v1.1.18 was added.
Nothing was deleted in winsxs and to obtain such a size, install.wim was converted into esd.
Windows defender is disabled by default but can be re-enabled again via gpedit.msc.
Note that the new feature Windows Defender Tamper protection was deactivated too.
(https://i.ibb.co/7G663MP/win10.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/JxbCYY3/win7.jpg)
In the previous versions a script was run to remove the useless appx and provisioned packages. It wasn't used in this version.
Here is the script previously used to remove provisioned apps (the "Sysprep" switch was used).
#This function finds any AppX/AppXProvisioned package and uninstalls it, except for Freshpaint, Windows Calculator, Windows Store, and Windows Photos.
#Also, to note - This does NOT remove essential system services/software/etc such as .NET framework installations, Cortana, Edge, etc.
#This is the switch parameter for running this script as a 'silent' script, for use in MDT images or any type of mass deployment without user interaction.
param (
[switch]$Debloat, [switch]$SysPrep
)
Function Begin-SysPrep {
param([switch]$SysPrep)
Write-Verbose -Message ('Starting Sysprep Fixes')
# Disable Windows Store Automatic Updates
<# Write-Verbose -Message "Adding Registry key to Disable Windows Store Automatic Updates"
$registryPath = "HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\WindowsStore"
If (!(Test-Path $registryPath)) {
Mkdir $registryPath -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue
New-ItemProperty $registryPath -Name AutoDownload -Value 2
}
Else {
Set-ItemProperty $registryPath -Name AutoDownload -Value 2
}
#Stop WindowsStore Installer Service and set to Disabled
Write-Verbose -Message ('Stopping InstallService')
Stop-Service InstallService
#>
}
#Creates a PSDrive to be able to access the 'HKCR' tree
New-PSDrive -Name HKCR -PSProvider Registry -Root HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT
Function Start-Debloat {
param([switch]$Debloat)
#Removes AppxPackages
#Credit to Reddit user /u/GavinEke for a modified version of my whitelist code
[regex]$WhitelistedApps = 'Microsoft.ScreenSketch|Microsoft.Paint3D|Microsoft.WindowsCalculator|Microsoft.WindowsStore|Microsoft.Windows.Photos|CanonicalGroupLimited.UbuntuonWindows|`
Microsoft.MicrosoftStickyNotes|Microsoft.MSPaint|Microsoft.WindowsCamera|.NET|Framework|Microsoft.HEIFImageExtension|Microsoft.ScreenSketch|Microsoft.StorePurchaseApp|`
Microsoft.VP9VideoExtensions|Microsoft.WebMediaExtensions|Microsoft.WebpImageExtension|Microsoft.DesktopAppInstaller'
Get-AppxPackage -AllUsers | Where-Object {$_.Name -NotMatch $WhitelistedApps} | Remove-AppxPackage -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue
# Run this again to avoid error on 1803 or having to reboot.
Get-AppxPackage -AllUsers | Where-Object {$_.Name -NotMatch $WhitelistedApps} | Remove-AppxPackage -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue
$AppxRemoval = Get-AppxProvisionedPackage -Online | Where-Object {$_.PackageName -NotMatch $WhitelistedApps}
ForEach ( $App in $AppxRemoval) {
Remove-AppxProvisionedPackage -Online -PackageName $App.PackageName
}
}
Function Remove-Keys {
Param([switch]$Debloat)
#These are the registry keys that it will delete.
$Keys = @(
#Remove Background Tasks
"HKCR:\Extensions\ContractId\Windows.BackgroundTasks\PackageId\46928bounde.EclipseManager_2.2.4.51_neutral__a5h4egax66k6y"
"HKCR:\Extensions\ContractId\Windows.BackgroundTasks\PackageId\ActiproSoftwareLLC.562882FEEB491_2.6.18.18_neutral__24pqs290vpjk0"
"HKCR:\Extensions\ContractId\Windows.BackgroundTasks\PackageId\Microsoft.MicrosoftOfficeHub_17.7909.7600.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe"
"HKCR:\Extensions\ContractId\Windows.BackgroundTasks\PackageId\Microsoft.PPIProjection_10.0.15063.0_neutral_neutral_cw5n1h2txyewy"
"HKCR:\Extensions\ContractId\Windows.BackgroundTasks\PackageId\Microsoft.XboxGameCallableUI_1000.15063.0.0_neutral_neutral_cw5n1h2txyewy"
"HKCR:\Extensions\ContractId\Windows.BackgroundTasks\PackageId\Microsoft.XboxGameCallableUI_1000.16299.15.0_neutral_neutral_cw5n1h2txyewy"
#Windows File
"HKCR:\Extensions\ContractId\Windows.File\PackageId\ActiproSoftwareLLC.562882FEEB491_2.6.18.18_neutral__24pqs290vpjk0"
#Registry keys to delete if they aren't uninstalled by RemoveAppXPackage/RemoveAppXProvisionedPackage
"HKCR:\Extensions\ContractId\Windows.Launch\PackageId\46928bounde.EclipseManager_2.2.4.51_neutral__a5h4egax66k6y"
"HKCR:\Extensions\ContractId\Windows.Launch\PackageId\ActiproSoftwareLLC.562882FEEB491_2.6.18.18_neutral__24pqs290vpjk0"
"HKCR:\Extensions\ContractId\Windows.Launch\PackageId\Microsoft.PPIProjection_10.0.15063.0_neutral_neutral_cw5n1h2txyewy"
"HKCR:\Extensions\ContractId\Windows.Launch\PackageId\Microsoft.XboxGameCallableUI_1000.15063.0.0_neutral_neutral_cw5n1h2txyewy"
"HKCR:\Extensions\ContractId\Windows.Launch\PackageId\Microsoft.XboxGameCallableUI_1000.16299.15.0_neutral_neutral_cw5n1h2txyewy"
#Scheduled Tasks to delete
"HKCR:\Extensions\ContractId\Windows.PreInstalledConfigTask\PackageId\Microsoft.MicrosoftOfficeHub_17.7909.7600.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe"
#Windows Protocol Keys
"HKCR:\Extensions\ContractId\Windows.Protocol\PackageId\ActiproSoftwareLLC.562882FEEB491_2.6.18.18_neutral__24pqs290vpjk0"
"HKCR:\Extensions\ContractId\Windows.Protocol\PackageId\Microsoft.PPIProjection_10.0.15063.0_neutral_neutral_cw5n1h2txyewy"
"HKCR:\Extensions\ContractId\Windows.Protocol\PackageId\Microsoft.XboxGameCallableUI_1000.15063.0.0_neutral_neutral_cw5n1h2txyewy"
"HKCR:\Extensions\ContractId\Windows.Protocol\PackageId\Microsoft.XboxGameCallableUI_1000.16299.15.0_neutral_neutral_cw5n1h2txyewy"
#Windows Share Target
"HKCR:\Extensions\ContractId\Windows.ShareTarget\PackageId\ActiproSoftwareLLC.562882FEEB491_2.6.18.18_neutral__24pqs290vpjk0"
)
#This writes the output of each key it is removing and also removes the keys listed above.
ForEach ($Key in $Keys) {
Write-Output "Removing $Key from registry"
Remove-Item $Key -Recurse -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue
}
}
Function Protect-Privacy {
Param([switch]$Debloat)
#Creates a PSDrive to be able to access the 'HKCR' tree
New-PSDrive -Name HKCR -PSProvider Registry -Root HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT
#Disables Windows Feedback Experience
Write-Output "Disabling Windows Feedback Experience program"
$Advertising = 'HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\AdvertisingInfo'
If (Test-Path $Advertising) {
Set-ItemProperty $Advertising -Name Enabled -Value 0 -Verbose
}
#Stops Cortana from being used as part of your Windows Search Function
Write-Output "Stopping Cortana from being used as part of your Windows Search Function"
$Search = 'HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Windows Search'
If (Test-Path $Search) {
Set-ItemProperty $Search -Name AllowCortana -Value 0 -Verbose
}
#Stops the Windows Feedback Experience from sending anonymous data
Write-Output "Stopping the Windows Feedback Experience program"
$Period1 = 'HKCU:\Software\Microsoft\Siuf'
$Period2 = 'HKCU:\Software\Microsoft\Siuf\Rules'
$Period3 = 'HKCU:\Software\Microsoft\Siuf\Rules\PeriodInNanoSeconds'
If (!(Test-Path $Period3)) {
mkdir $Period1 -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue
mkdir $Period2 -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue
mkdir $Period3 -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue
New-ItemProperty $Period3 -Name PeriodInNanoSeconds -Value 0 -Verbose -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue
}
Write-Output "Adding Registry key to prevent bloatware apps from returning"
#Prevents bloatware applications from returning
$registryPath = "HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\CloudContent"
If (!(Test-Path $registryPath)) {
Mkdir $registryPath -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue
New-ItemProperty $registryPath -Name DisableWindowsConsumerFeatures -Value 1 -Verbose -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue
}
Write-Output "Setting Mixed Reality Portal value to 0 so that you can uninstall it in Settings"
$Holo = 'HKCU:\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Holographic'
If (Test-Path $Holo) {
Set-ItemProperty $Holo -Name FirstRunSucceeded -Value 0 -Verbose
}
#Disables live tiles
Write-Output "Disabling live tiles"
$Live = 'HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\PushNotifications'
If (!(Test-Path $Live)) {
mkdir $Live -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue
New-ItemProperty $Live -Name NoTileApplicationNotification -Value 1 -Verbose
}
#Turns off Data Collection via the AllowTelemtry key by changing it to 0
Write-Output "Turning off Data Collection"
$DataCollection = 'HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\DataCollection'
If (Test-Path $DataCollection) {
Set-ItemProperty $DataCollection -Name AllowTelemetry -Value 0 -Verbose
}
#Disables People icon on Taskbar
Write-Output "Disabling People icon on Taskbar"
$People = 'HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced\People'
If (Test-Path $People) {
Set-ItemProperty $People -Name PeopleBand -Value 0 -Verbose
}
#Disables suggestions on start menu
Write-Output "Disabling suggestions on the Start Menu"
$Suggestions = 'HKCU:\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ContentDeliveryManager'
If (Test-Path $Suggestions) {
Set-ItemProperty $Suggestions -Name SystemPaneSuggestionsEnabled -Value 0 -Verbose
}
Write-Output "Removing CloudStore from registry if it exists"
$CloudStore = 'HKCUSoftware\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\CloudStore'
If (Test-Path $CloudStore) {
Stop-Process Explorer.exe -Force
Remove-Item $CloudStore
Start-Process Explorer.exe -Wait
}
#Loads the registry keys/values below into the NTUSER.DAT file which prevents the apps from redownloading. Credit to a60wattfish
reg load HKU\Default_User C:\Users\Default\NTUSER.DAT
Set-ItemProperty -Path Registry::HKU\Default_User\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ContentDeliveryManager -Name SystemPaneSuggestionsEnabled -Value 0
Set-ItemProperty -Path Registry::HKU\Default_User\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ContentDeliveryManager -Name PreInstalledAppsEnabled -Value 0
Set-ItemProperty -Path Registry::HKU\Default_User\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ContentDeliveryManager -Name OemPreInstalledAppsEnabled -Value 0
reg unload HKU\Default_User
#Disables scheduled tasks that are considered unnecessary
Write-Output "Disabling scheduled tasks"
#Get-ScheduledTask -TaskName XblGameSaveTaskLogon | Disable-ScheduledTask -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue
Get-ScheduledTask -TaskName XblGameSaveTask | Disable-ScheduledTask -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue
Get-ScheduledTask -TaskName Consolidator | Disable-ScheduledTask -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue
Get-ScheduledTask -TaskName UsbCeip | Disable-ScheduledTask -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue
Get-ScheduledTask -TaskName DmClient | Disable-ScheduledTask -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue
Get-ScheduledTask -TaskName DmClientOnScenarioDownload | Disable-ScheduledTask -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue
}
#This includes fixes by xsisbest
Function FixWhitelistedApps {
Param([switch]$Debloat)
If(!(Get-AppxPackage -AllUsers | Select Microsoft.Paint3D, Microsoft.MSPaint, Microsoft.WindowsCalculator, Microsoft.WindowsStore, Microsoft.MicrosoftStickyNotes, Microsoft.WindowsSoundRecorder, Microsoft.Windows.Photos)) {
#Credit to abulgatz for the 4 lines of code
Get-AppxPackage -allusers Microsoft.Paint3D | Foreach {Add-AppxPackage -DisableDevelopmentMode -Register "$($_.InstallLocation)\AppXManifest.xml"}
Get-AppxPackage -allusers Microsoft.MSPaint | Foreach {Add-AppxPackage -DisableDevelopmentMode -Register "$($_.InstallLocation)\AppXManifest.xml"}
Get-AppxPackage -allusers Microsoft.WindowsCalculator | Foreach {Add-AppxPackage -DisableDevelopmentMode -Register "$($_.InstallLocation)\AppXManifest.xml"}
Get-AppxPackage -allusers Microsoft.WindowsStore | Foreach {Add-AppxPackage -DisableDevelopmentMode -Register "$($_.InstallLocation)\AppXManifest.xml"}
Get-AppxPackage -allusers Microsoft.MicrosoftStickyNotes | Foreach {Add-AppxPackage -DisableDevelopmentMode -Register "$($_.InstallLocation)\AppXManifest.xml"}
Get-AppxPackage -allusers Microsoft.WindowsSoundRecorder | Foreach {Add-AppxPackage -DisableDevelopmentMode -Register "$($_.InstallLocation)\AppXManifest.xml"}
Get-AppxPackage -allusers Microsoft.Windows.Photos | Foreach {Add-AppxPackage -DisableDevelopmentMode -Register "$($_.InstallLocation)\AppXManifest.xml"} }
}
Function CheckDMWService {
Param([switch]$Debloat)
If (Get-Service -Name dmwappushservice | Where-Object {$_.StartType -eq "Disabled"}) {
Set-Service -Name dmwappushservice -StartupType Automatic}
If(Get-Service -Name dmwappushservice | Where-Object {$_.Status -eq "Stopped"}) {
Start-Service -Name dmwappushservice}
}
Function CheckInstallService {
Param([switch]$Debloat)
If (Get-Service -Name InstallService | Where-Object {$_.Status -eq "Stopped"}) {
Start-Service -Name InstallService
Set-Service -Name InstallService -StartupType Automatic
}
}
Write-Output "Initiating Sysprep"
Begin-SysPrep
Write-Output "Removing bloatware apps."
Start-Debloat
Write-Output "Removing leftover bloatware registry keys."
Remove-Keys
Write-Output "Checking to see if any Whitelisted Apps were removed, and if so re-adding them."
FixWhitelistedApps
Write-Output "Stopping telemetry, disabling unneccessary scheduled tasks, and preventing bloatware from returning."
Protect-Privacy
#Write-Output "Stopping Edge from taking over as the default PDF Viewer."
#Stop-EdgePDF
CheckDMWService
CheckInstallService
Write-Output "Finished all tasks."
Windows 10,11 link: Windows 10,11 (https://mega.nz/folder/hFMVTIBL#OP7Z1vb95a0AIFl5-_UctQ)
Note that you can still download XP here (an updated, lite version of Maher's edition which includes every update):
kb4012598 and wmp11 with its updates have been integrated. What's more, some visual tweaks were applied as you can see on the screenshot below.
Finally, a few unneeded elements were removed (the list is available in the nlite log in the iso file).
Not available any longer.
(https://image.ibb.co/fjD21U/xp.png)
Here is office 2007 with all the updates, till August 2018 (it's a switch-less installer).
Link: Office 2007 (https://mega.nz/file/wU1WCLya#iH1BYgcHOnL5c_FPkQCFtf1LNlai980AUXkDoqZhoYM)
(https://www.ginjfo.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Office_2007.jpg)
Rebase 1.3 for windows 7x64 with its tutorial by harkaz.
An essential program to slim down Windows 7.
Link: https://mega.nz/#!EUEQFQja!Zc1idDsCZXVzHuYHGpthefz_o82bMOgn7OdisvNsK_A (https://mega.nz/#!EUEQFQja!Zc1idDsCZXVzHuYHGpthefz_o82bMOgn7OdisvNsK_A)
Note that a switch-less lite installer for the latest nvidia drivers for windows 10 & 11 x64 is available here (v546.29)
Only graphics driver and Physx system are installed. Geforce experience is not installed.
It is possible to run this during the installation ($oem$ folder).
Link: Nvidia driver (https://mega.nz/file/YV8C0I7L#nzl_HhtteGg31Orwa8kd4cOqOXXqW2P3XmpQ648ufVw)
(https://i.ibb.co/P9W0Q95/Nvidia.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/Bt8JpDn/nvidia.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ze7sHMKiVU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNEadYEZb9M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaXgcCOaaHk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEMqvrMoEF0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydjglwfe7II
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODAyvkCNYSc
https://www.youtube.com/embed/7Fsx-1hw0Xg?cc_load_policy=1&cc_lang_pref=en (https://www.youtube.com/embed/7Fsx-1hw0Xg?cc_load_policy=1&cc_lang_pref=en)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24xRFPGMImY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3Ioxh3OTSU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DiCeoOoMCQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17CwZmI8mUQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pKowWFBIuY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCxZRfqd_pM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSW_lKGf9us
(https://i.ibb.co/vwM2Tcb/baboon2.jpg)
Note that new versions of windows 10 & 11 will be available next week.
(https://i.ibb.co/4Y1P9Qh/win10.jpg)
Quote from: scarface on January 09, 2022, 05:25 PM
Note that new versions of windows 10 & 11 will be available next week.
Who among us is using Windows 11? Probably nobody unless you're testing it inside a virtual machine. Just like most of you, I believe it's way too early do go with 11. There are all kinds of hacks and other modifications available for 10, but not for 11 -- at least not yet. I recommend patience.
Quote from: humbert on January 10, 2022, 05:21 AM
Quote from: scarface on January 09, 2022, 05:25 PM
Note that new versions of windows 10 & 11 will be available next week.
Who among us is using Windows 11? Probably nobody unless you're testing it inside a virtual machine. Just like most of you, I believe it's way too early do go with 11. There are all kinds of hacks and other modifications available for 10, but not for 11 -- at least not yet. I recommend patience.
None of my family's laptops/desktops works with win 11.
Though I have downloaded latest copy of W7 and W11 from scarface.
Quote from: Vasudev on January 11, 2022, 03:49 PM
None of my family's laptops/desktops works with win 11.
Though I have downloaded latest copy of W7 and W11 from scarface.
Not that you would actually
want to use W11, but let me ask: these copies of W11 that didn't work - were they modified? In other words, were the secure boot and TPM requirements removed? I'm thinking these copies might run on older PC's. After all, the only real difference is removing these Micro$haft-imposed restrictions.
Quote from: humbert on January 12, 2022, 04:53 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on January 11, 2022, 03:49 PM
None of my family's laptops/desktops works with win 11.
Though I have downloaded latest copy of W7 and W11 from scarface.
Not that you would actually want to use W11, but let me ask: these copies of W11 that didn't work - were they modified? In other words, were the secure boot and TPM requirements removed? I'm thinking these copies might run on older PC's. After all, the only real difference is removing these Micro$haft-imposed restrictions.
Its the CPU like I said. Being a intel skylake its EOL. Secure boot and TPM 2.0 is already working.
Quote from: Vasudev on January 12, 2022, 08:51 PM
Its the CPU like I said. Being a intel skylake its EOL. Secure boot and TPM 2.0 is already working.
So then this copy you tested was NOT modded to skip those Microsoft requirements? Basically what I'm asking is if a modded copy of Win11 (secure boot & TMP disabled) will work on a Skylake or older.
Quote from: humbert on January 13, 2022, 04:37 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on January 12, 2022, 08:51 PM
Its the CPU like I said. Being a intel skylake its EOL. Secure boot and TPM 2.0 is already working.
So then this copy you tested was NOT modded to skip those Microsoft requirements? Basically what I'm asking is if a modded copy of Win11 (secure boot & TMP disabled) will work on a Skylake or older.
It will. Scarface's copy has these reqmts disabled.
Note that new versions of windows 10 and 11 are available in the previous message.
Quote from: scarface on February 12, 2022, 10:20 PM
Note that new versions of windows 10 and 11 are available in the previous message.
Are you able to upgrade from Windows 10 by mounting the ISO and running the setup program?
Quote from: humbert on February 13, 2022, 05:43 AM
Quote from: scarface on February 12, 2022, 10:20 PM
Note that new versions of windows 10 and 11 are available in the previous message.
Are you able to upgrade from Windows 10 by mounting the ISO and running the setup program?
Should be possible since most W10 users upgrade by mounting the ISO and running setup.exe
I might want to take a look at Scarface's W11 under VirtualBox. I'm not seeing a download link.
Quote from: humbert on February 15, 2022, 05:49 AM
I might want to take a look at Scarface's W11 under VirtualBox. I'm not seeing a download link.
It wasn't in the previous message, but on the previous page...
Link here: https://www.nomaher.com/forum/index.php?topic=14153.msg37204#msg37204
I'll be trying Win 11 in a VM. I'm downloading it.
@humbert and @scarface Should i make stock version of W11 w/o bypassing the system requirements or should I add them?
Quote from: Vasudev on February 28, 2022, 07:01 PM
@humbert and @scarface Should i make stock version of W11 w/o bypassing the system requirements or should I add them?
NO! The restrictions imposed by Micro$haft are useless. In my tests the OS runs well perfectly without them. M$ wants us to buy a more expensive computer when the one we have does the job perfectly. They also assume we don't know what we're doing so they "protect" us by imposing secure boot. I have yet to hear a situation where someone had a problem because TPM wasn't enabled.
Quote from: humbert on March 01, 2022, 04:50 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on February 28, 2022, 07:01 PM
@humbert and @scarface Should i make stock version of W11 w/o bypassing the system requirements or should I add them?
NO! The restrictions imposed by Micro$haft are useless. In my tests the OS runs well perfectly without them. M$ wants us to buy a more expensive computer when the one we have does the job perfectly. They also assume we don't know what we're doing so they "protect" us by imposing secure boot. I have yet to hear a situation where someone had a problem because TPM wasn't enabled.
Already add security bypass via NTLite, for some reason the process is slow on NTLite and WinToolkit while removing packages or adding them, even uup conversion took a long time. W11 Image editing took a very long time almost 2-3x than Win 7/8.1/10.
Quote from: Vasudev on March 01, 2022, 07:01 PM
Already add security bypass via NTLite, for some reason the process is slow on NTLite and WinToolkit while removing packages or adding them, even uup conversion took a long time. W11 Image editing took a very long time almost 2-3x than Win 7/8.1/10.
You can also do this with Rufus or with a registry hack. I'm not sure where it is, you'll find it on Google.
As I explained before, in my tests on Virtualbox Windows 11 is rock solid - this is without those ridiculous restrictions. As is always the case, you have to remove the garbage, disable the telemetry, and configure it to your tastes. Clearly M$'s restrictions are useless and totally unnecessary.
Quote from: humbert on March 02, 2022, 05:16 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on March 01, 2022, 07:01 PM
Already add security bypass via NTLite, for some reason the process is slow on NTLite and WinToolkit while removing packages or adding them, even uup conversion took a long time. W11 Image editing took a very long time almost 2-3x than Win 7/8.1/10.
You can also do this with Rufus or with a registry hack. I'm not sure where it is, you'll find it on Google.
As I explained before, in my tests on Virtualbox Windows 11 is rock solid - this is without those ridiculous restrictions. As is always the case, you have to remove the garbage, disable the telemetry, and configure it to your tastes. Clearly M$'s restrictions are useless and totally unnecessary.
Still haven't tried it in VM. Athough telemetry and other appx were removed.
Quote from: Vasudev on March 02, 2022, 07:53 PM
Still haven't tried it in VM. Athough telemetry and other appx were removed.
Have you tried it at all, i.e., on a real computer? If so what do you think?
Quote from: humbert on March 03, 2022, 05:30 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on March 02, 2022, 07:53 PM
Still haven't tried it in VM. Athough telemetry and other appx were removed.
Have you tried it at all, i.e., on a real computer? If so what do you think?
I tried only in VM and all bypass were added. Coudn't find a compatible real machine. Anyway, the update integration process is slow in Win 11 according to Abbodi due to:
with W11 it's more slower when adding LCU msu file, because it generate reverse delta PSFX during process
for other updates or cab filesFound a switchless installer for DX runtimes. DX runtimes repack (http://"https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/repack-directx-end-user-runtime-june-2010.84785/")
It seems the W11 ISO upload will take a week to upload. One of the ISPs is throttling uploads.
It seems 50% of the Win 11 ISO is uploaded. Something is blocking uploads.
Quote from: Vasudev on March 19, 2022, 07:11 PMIt seems 50% of the Win 11 ISO is uploaded. Something is blocking uploads.
Did it freeze up at 50% or what? Are you uploading this directly or seeding a torrent?
Quote from: Vasudev on March 19, 2022, 07:11 PMIt seems 50% of the Win 11 ISO is uploaded. Something is blocking uploads.
I can provide ftp access to my server if you would like me to act as a middlehand, if uploading to normal homepages is problematic.
Quote from: Shadow.97 on March 24, 2022, 12:01 PMQuote from: Vasudev on March 19, 2022, 07:11 PMIt seems 50% of the Win 11 ISO is uploaded. Something is blocking uploads.
I can provide ftp access to my server if you would like me to act as a middlehand, if uploading to normal homepages is problematic.
Huge file Uploads are suddenly blocked for no reason, there is no issue while downloading huge files, it seems like some FUP policy.
Let me try uploading through the FTP link you use.
Quote from: humbert on March 24, 2022, 03:18 AMQuote from: Vasudev on March 19, 2022, 07:11 PMIt seems 50% of the Win 11 ISO is uploaded. Something is blocking uploads.
Did it freeze up at 50% or what? Are you uploading this directly or seeding a torrent?
I split the files into parts of 700MB out of which 3(total 6 parts) are uploaded.
Quote from: Vasudev on March 24, 2022, 03:46 PMQuote from: humbert on March 24, 2022, 03:18 AMQuote from: Vasudev on March 19, 2022, 07:11 PMIt seems 50% of the Win 11 ISO is uploaded. Something is blocking uploads.
Did it freeze up at 50% or what? Are you uploading this directly or seeding a torrent?
I split the files into parts of 700MB out of which 3(total 6 parts) are uploaded.
Upload complete. Win 11 links shared via PM. Thanks to Humbert, Shadow97 and scarface.
Note that new versions of windows 7, 10 & 11 will be available soon.
Some new drivers will be included in Windows 10 and 11.
As far as windows 11 is concerned, I tested it and I'm a bit disappointed.
-The new paint is not familiar and quite cumbersome to use. I use paint to resize the photos of the forum and it's harder than before.
-There are several bugs with old programs. For instance when I use vmware12 and I get a Blue screen whenever I plug a usb device.
-It seems there is a bug with the wireless networks in the taskbar. You just can't display them...
-Each time I play a video (with youtube or vlc...), there is a 5-second lag before the sound works. Apparently this bug is common. I tested various drivers, to no avail.
It's just a small list. Actually I don't understand why Microsoft released this new version.
I was using windows 10 v1903 until now and I will go back to windows 10.
Note that Vasudev apparently sent a homemade windows 11 to humbert, Maher and me but I never found the link. With what was said earlier, I'm not willing to test another version of windows 11 anyway.
Note that I was dumbfounded when I was not able to install windows 10 & 11 after formatting the Hard drive disk. It becomes harder and harder with their new format (gpt? mbr?) At least it wasn't that hard to install window95 formerly.
I had the error message: "we couldn't create a new partition or locate an existing one"
I followed the tutorial in this video and it worked:
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/we-couldnt-create-a-new-partition-or-locate-an/acdb1dae-01d9-44f7-846c-433e5addcfc2
Quote from: Vasudev on March 26, 2022, 11:24 PMUpload complete. Win 11 links shared via PM. Thanks to Humbert, Shadow97 and scarface.
I have to agree with Scarface. I don't recall seeing the link. Please resend.
Did you disable TPM and secure boot? Also, did you remove the unwanted bloat M$ installs? I think this is the best approach. For those who want any of that, it's easily available on the Windows Store.
Scarface: With respect to the bugs you reported, I haven't run into any yet. Despite that, your post doesn't surprise me at all. New stuff is ALWAYS buggy. I still believe it's way too early to go full steam with W11. Much more testing and bug fixing need to be done.
Note that a new version of windows 10 is available here: https://www.nomaher.com/forum/index.php?topic=14153.msg37204#msg37204
As for the version of Windows 11, TPM and secure boot were disabled (I installed it with a bios configured in Legacy mode with secure boot disabled, otherwise the usb key is not recognized).
Quote from: humbert on April 15, 2022, 05:34 AMQuote from: Vasudev on March 26, 2022, 11:24 PMUpload complete. Win 11 links shared via PM. Thanks to Humbert, Shadow97 and scarface.
I have to agree with Scarface. I don't recall seeing the link. Please resend.
Did you disable TPM and secure boot? Also, did you remove the unwanted bloat M$ installs? I think this is the best approach. For those who want any of that, it's easily available on the Windows Store.
Scarface: With respect to the bugs you reported, I haven't run into any yet. Despite that, your post doesn't surprise me at all. New stuff is ALWAYS buggy. I still believe it's way too early to go full steam with W11. Much more testing and bug fixing need to be done.
I didn't notice it because I shared entire Win 11 folder. TPM and SB checks were disabled and also unwanted UWP apps have been removed and size reduction was around 800MB on both Home and Pro.
EDIT: Check PM with title "Win 11 ISO Link"
How do you download from MEGA? I opened a non-incognito version of Iron Browser (Chrome clone without tracking) and it says "download complete". The file is nowhere to be found.
I should mention MEGA has very slow download speeds. Maybe it's because I'm not paying.
Quote from: humbert on April 20, 2022, 05:28 AMHow do you download from MEGA? I opened a non-incognito version of Iron Browser (Chrome clone without tracking) and it says "download complete". The file is nowhere to be found.
I should mention MEGA has very slow download speeds. Maybe it's because I'm not paying.
When we say slow, how slow are you referring to?
I used to get faster back in the days on Mega, maxing out my connection. But currently getting 5.0MB/s +-0.1
Generally speaking I peak 13.0MB/s.
My understanding is that it downloads it to your cache first and decrypts, then triggers a local download from your own cache that is instantly completed. They do it to avoid being sued for storing copyrighted materials if i recall correctly.
I'm a firefox user.
Quote from: Shadow.97 on April 20, 2022, 03:28 PMQuote from: humbert on April 20, 2022, 05:28 AMHow do you download from MEGA? I opened a non-incognito version of Iron Browser (Chrome clone without tracking) and it says "download complete". The file is nowhere to be found.
I should mention MEGA has very slow download speeds. Maybe it's because I'm not paying.
When we say slow, how slow are you referring to?
I used to get faster back in the days on Mega, maxing out my connection. But currently getting 5.0MB/s +-0.1
Generally speaking I peak 13.0MB/s.
My understanding is that it downloads it to your cache first and decrypts, then triggers a local download from your own cache that is instantly completed. They do it to avoid being sued for storing copyrighted materials if i recall correctly.
I'm a firefox user.
Smaller files can be downloaded through browser but larger sized downloads are off downloaded using megasync.
@humbert There is a throttle quota of 1GB or 2GB download size every 6hrs on free plan.
I didn't measure the MEGA download speed, but I do recall that each 700 MB took 3-4 minutes. MEGA's software will not allow you to use IDM. I have Google Fiber with gives me 1gbps up and down. If there had been no throttling and IDM would have taken over the download, we'd be talking maybe 15 seconds.
I use both Firefox and the Iron browser. This is a carbon copy of Google Chrome without the tracking. There are some sites that prefer Firefox and others that prefer Iron (or Chrome). MEGA is a good example. I couldn't download with Firefox, and with Iron only with the incognito mode disabled. In both cases I did not install their addon. I'm assuming this is what MEGA wants you to do.
Quote from: humbert on April 23, 2022, 06:02 AMI didn't measure the MEGA download speed, but I do recall that each 700 MB took 3-4 minutes. MEGA's software will not allow you to use IDM. I have Google Fiber with gives me 1gbps up and down. If there had been no throttling and IDM would have taken over the download, we'd be talking maybe 15 seconds.
I use both Firefox and the Iron browser. This is a carbon copy of Google Chrome without the tracking. There are some sites that prefer Firefox and others that prefer Iron (or Chrome). MEGA is a good example. I couldn't download with Firefox, and with Iron only with the incognito mode disabled. In both cases I did not install their addon. I'm assuming this is what MEGA wants you to do.
Firefox is slow esp. with huge files on mega.nz and chrome has better storage speed and handle huge files at the expense of RAM and CPU.
Has anyone actually did a full-fledged upgrade to Windows 11, or are we all still in the testing stage? I haven't upgraded because as of this writing there's still not enough support. If there's a program knows as "Windows 11 Privacy" (or similar) I've yet to see it. As I said before, on VirtualBox it runs great and even boots up almost immediately.
As is typical of M$, they've already said that in order to upgrade to Alder Lake (Intel's latest as of this writing) you must use W11. This is, of course, barring some 3rd party drivers that can take full advantage of Alder Lake on W10 or less.
Quote from: humbert on May 03, 2022, 04:39 AMHas anyone actually did a full-fledged upgrade to Windows 11, or are we all still in the testing stage? I haven't upgraded because as of this writing there's still not enough support. If there's a program knows as "Windows 11 Privacy" (or similar) I've yet to see it. As I said before, on VirtualBox it runs great and even boots up almost immediately.
As is typical of M$, they've already said that in order to upgrade to Alder Lake (Intel's latest as of this writing) you must use W11. This is, of course, barring some 3rd party drivers that can take full advantage of Alder Lake on W10 or less.
Yes, I used my W10 regedits on Win 11 and couple of new things specific to Win 11.
For ADL or newer Ryzen's you need Win 11 to take full advantage.
Quote from: Vasudev on May 03, 2022, 07:18 PMYes, I used my W10 regedits on Win 11 and couple of new things specific to Win 11.
For ADL or newer Ryzen's you need Win 11 to take full advantage.
It's always the same story -- sooner or later we will have no choice but to upgrade. It's just that now is not the time. Let's wait for newer hacks and other stuff.
I love how manufacturers list devices as shipping with both windows 10 and 11, seems like even they can't tell the difference.. :')
Quote from: Shadow.97 on May 04, 2022, 08:09 AMI love how manufacturers list devices as shipping with both windows 10 and 11, seems like even they can't tell the difference.. :')
I'm thinking they mean W10 preinstalled with am available free upgrade to W11. Then again, I haven't heard that M$ is charging W10 users to upgrade to W11.
Note that new versions of windows 10 & 7 will be available on the forum soon. Since windows 11 has bugs, there will be no more new versions for the moment.
Quote from: scarface on May 13, 2022, 11:42 AMNote that new versions of windows 10 & 7 will be available on the forum soon. Since windows 11 has bugs, there will be no more new versions for the moment.
Also 20HX Win10 is EOL and users need 21H1 or hiher to get updates. Damn, two more years and Win 10 will be dead. I don't think people will miss W10 unlike XP and 7.
Note that new versions of windows 7 and windows 10 are available here:
https://www.nomaher.com/forum/index.php?topic=14153.msg37204#msg37204
Quote from: scarface on May 15, 2022, 12:23 AMNote that new versions of windows 7 and windows 10 are available here:
Who's still using Windows 7? M$ stopped supporting it long ago. It's not like XP. By this I mean that those who were still using XP had old systems and it was financially impossible for them to upgrade. M$ made it very clear that any computer than ran W7 could run W8 and subsequently W10. It was with W11 that they drew the line, and even then you could alter W11 to get around this limitation.
Quote from: humbert on May 15, 2022, 04:45 AMWho's still using Windows 7? M$ stopped supporting it long ago. It's not like XP. By this I mean that those who were still using XP had old systems and it was financially impossible for them to upgrade. M$ made it very clear that any computer than ran W7 could run W8 and subsequently W10. It was with W11 that they drew the line, and even then you could alter W11 to get around this limitation.
Actually, Windows 7 is still receiving updates every month. But it's true that it's probably advisable to use a newer version. As for windows 11, I have problems with it (memory leaks, audio lags) and the new mspaint is quite cumbersome to use (the exe can't be replaced).
Quote from: scarface on May 15, 2022, 08:03 AMQuote from: humbert on May 15, 2022, 04:45 AMWho's still using Windows 7? M$ stopped supporting it long ago. It's not like XP. By this I mean that those who were still using XP had old systems and it was financially impossible for them to upgrade. M$ made it very clear that any computer than ran W7 could run W8 and subsequently W10. It was with W11 that they drew the line, and even then you could alter W11 to get around this limitation.
Actually, Windows 7 is still receiving updates every month. But it's true that it's probably advisable to use a newer version. As for windows 11, I have problems with it (memory leaks, audio lags) and the new mspaint is quite cumbersome to use (the exe can't be replaced).
Yes as an ESR for some EU/US with higher fees. Actually unsupported for consumer or public users but W7 gets the job done
You're saying M$ is still updating Windows 7? I Googled that and it says that as of Jan 14, 2020 there are no more security updates. What's going on?
I have no doubt Win7 gets the job done. The problem here is lack of support, and I don't mean just M$. There are probably hardware manufacturers who don't bother to write driver for it any more. As more time passes, more manufacturers will add themselves to the list.
Did you test W11 on a "real" computer or on a virtual machine? I'm asking because in my tests on Virtualbox it performs quite well. It's just the typical M$ annoyances people have to deal with. I found a very clean bare-bones ISO on the torrents with a great many "features" removed. It doesn't even have Edge. This is no problem, if I wanted Edge it's available on the M$ store app. Despite all this, I believe it's still too early to go full on with W11. Let them improve it and let guys write more hacks for it.
If this were a perfect world, those who write operating systems should always provide us with a very clean copy. You download what you need from their store or repositories. Better this than having to spend all day removing unwanted garbage.
Quote from: humbert on May 16, 2022, 04:57 AMYou're saying M$ is still updating Windows 7? I Googled that and it says that as of Jan 14, 2020 there are no more security updates. What's going on?
I have no doubt Win7 gets the job done. The problem here is lack of support, and I don't mean just M$. There are probably hardware manufacturers who don't bother to write driver for it any more. As more time passes, more manufacturers will add themselves to the list.
Did you test W11 on a "real" computer or on a virtual machine? I'm asking because in my tests on Virtualbox it performs quite well. It's just the typical M$ annoyances people have to deal with. I found a very clean bare-bones ISO on the torrents with a great many "features" removed. It doesn't even have Edge. This is no problem, if I wanted Edge it's available on the M$ store app. Despite all this, I believe it's still too early to go full on with W11. Let them improve it and let guys write more hacks for it.
If this were a perfect world, those who write operating systems should always provide us with a very clean copy. You download what you need from their store or repositories. Better this than having to spend all day removing unwanted garbage.
W7 ESR release Win 7 ESR docs (https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-client/windows-7-eos-faq/windows-7-extended-security-updates-faq)
I haven't tested win 11 on physical machines since I don't have any devices compatible with W11. In Vbox it works. In my ISO I use msi installer of Edge Enterprise (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/edge/business/download). You can safely delete folder EdgeCore from Program Files x86\Microsoft\ and keep only Edge, EdgeUpdate and Temp and save 600MB of bloat since desktop version points to Edge folder.
Quote from: Vasudev on May 16, 2022, 05:39 PMW7 ESR release Win 7 ESR docs (https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-client/windows-7-eos-faq/windows-7-extended-security-updates-faq)
Windows 7 is supported till January 2023 with the ESU indeed. Let's thank Vasudev for answering the numerous questions of humbert, I had no time to answer today.
Quote from: scarface on May 16, 2022, 10:33 PMWindows 7 is supported till January 2023 with the ESU indeed. Let's thank Vasudev for answering the numerous questions of humbert, I had no time to answer today.
Where is that support coming from? On Google it says Jan 14, 2020 is the final day. If M$ changed their minds I'm not aware of it. Even so, I see no reason not to upgrade to W10. Forget about W11 for now.
Quote from: humbert on May 17, 2022, 04:52 AMQuote from: scarface on May 16, 2022, 10:33 PMWindows 7 is supported till January 2023 with the ESU indeed. Let's thank Vasudev for answering the numerous questions of humbert, I had no time to answer today.
Where is that support coming from? On Google it says Jan 14, 2020 is the final day. If M$ changed their minds I'm not aware of it. Even so, I see no reason not to upgrade to W10. Forget about W11 for now.
Thanks scarface.
Humbert: That 2020 EOL date is applicable to general consumers and small business who doesn't have paid volume licenses covering more than 1000 PCs plus Office, Visual Studio, PowerBI etc. Large corps find it difficult to move on to new version of the same including hardware devices and rollout to every PCs, laptops etc.
For those willing to pay huge extra sums for keeping existing devices supported for few more years which helps in careful migration strategies to newer OS and hardware being W11 and newer security policies will have fresh breath of life instead of producing more e-waste and dump working devices.
Through the Extended Security Update program some people used the same trick which allows home and other users of W7 enjoy updated Windows 7.
Vasu: While those corporations you mentioned can still download security updates for W7 directly from M$, I'm not too clear about how regular users do it. Based on what you explained you and I can't exactly get the updates directly from M$ servers.
Don't you hate it when M$ purposely makes important hardware updates available ONLY on newer versions of Windows (W11 in this case). I have a WiFi 6E router. I bought a desktop PCI WiFi 6E adapter to replace the LAN cable that's all over the floor. For me it's ideal: the distance to the router is about 3½ meters with a direct line of sight. Guess what? Wifi 6 worked, but not WiFi 6E. The reason? 6E support is only available on W11. >:( Since it's still too early to upgrade, I returned the device to Amazon.
Note that I downloaded windows 11 build 22621 which could be the RTM for windows 11 22H2. Then, maybe a new version of windows 11 with the usual apps and updates will be released soon.
Incredibly enough I tested this new version and after installing open-shell (to restore the classic Start Menu), explorer.exe stopped working altogether. Even after a reboot it wasn't possible to open a folder. Apparently, the previous versions were plagued by various bugs and crashes of explorer.exe.
I'm going to make another try but I will give up if it's acting up again.
For those who are using windows 7 or 10 (or something else), it might be important to be aware of those potential problems.
Note that I found out what was breaking the start menu in the latest Windows 11 release.
Apparently the regedit key to restore the classic right click menu is not working any more:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Shell\Update\Packages]
"UndockingDisabled"=dword:00000001
Instead, these new regedit keys should be used:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\CLSID\{86ca1aa0-34aa-4e8b-a509-50c905bae2a2}]
@=""
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\CLSID\{86ca1aa0-34aa-4e8b-a509-50c905bae2a2}\InprocServer32]
@=""
The useless changes in the various versions of the windows OS are really annoying.
Note that I installed the classic Paint and added a shortcut in the right click menu too. Windows 11 22h2 should be available on the forum tomorrow.
Quote from: humbert on May 19, 2022, 04:46 AMVasu: While those corporations you mentioned can still download security updates for W7 directly from M$, I'm not too clear about how regular users do it. Based on what you explained you and I can't exactly get the updates directly from M$ servers.
Don't you hate it when M$ purposely makes important hardware updates available ONLY on newer versions of Windows (W11 in this case). I have a WiFi 6E router. I bought a desktop PCI WiFi 6E adapter to replace the LAN cable that's all over the floor. For me it's ideal: the distance to the router is about 3½ meters with a direct line of sight. Guess what? Wifi 6 worked, but not WiFi 6E. The reason? 6E support is only available on W11. >:( Since it's still too early to upgrade, I returned the device to Amazon.
I didn't know you upgraded to new 6E router. Yeah that sucks. You can always test in LiveCD Linux Mint or Linux Mint Debian edition and see if 6E is detected.
You can check with driver version to see if its latest one. I found 6E driver for Ax201 on Win 10
Ax 210 6E (https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=AX210%20)
Note that I made a new version of windows 11 (v 22621- probably the soon to be released next version).
While this version is working under vmware, I was unable to capture it and reinstall it with the new progams and layout, even if the same method was used for the previous versions available in this topic. When the setup begins you get the "windows could not display the images available for installation".
If somebody is able to give a solution, here is the faulty wim file: https://www.plustransfer.com/download.php?id=adb68f2fbbb82ac4b6a1652888448da8
Edit:
Note that I've been able to find out why this error occurred:
After analyzing the wim infos of the first and second versions of Windows 11 I noticed that the edition flag was not set, as if the wim file was corrupt (see image below). However, according the dism, the operation completed successfully. So I ckecked the log operation and found errors. Apparently it was necessary to add the /ScratchDir option to capture the image. With this option, the edition flag is now set. I don't know why option became suddenly necessary though.
Here is a page showing the problem: https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windows/en-US/0e114984-ef7e-4435-b294-aab7ea42f336/custom-installwim-install-problem?
(https://i.ibb.co/3rKLkSJ/editions.jpg)
Quote from: Vasudev on May 23, 2022, 05:04 PMI didn't know you upgraded to new 6E router. Yeah that sucks. You can always test in LiveCD Linux Mint or Linux Mint Debian edition and see if 6E is detected.
I returned the WiFi adapter and went back to the LAN cable I was originally using.
Regarding experimenting with those Linux LiveCD's you mentioned, I believe I'd have to install a driver to get the adapter to work. The thing is so new that not even Windows 11 will see it unless you download and install the driver.
I didn't test that Windows 10 driver you mentioned. What I don't like is that according to the developer's screenshots, Windows 10 doesn't know what WiFi channel you're on nor does it know you're using 6E. Upgrading to this thing is nice but not really urgent.
Quote from: humbert on May 24, 2022, 04:33 AMQuote from: Vasudev on May 23, 2022, 05:04 PMI didn't know you upgraded to new 6E router. Yeah that sucks. You can always test in LiveCD Linux Mint or Linux Mint Debian edition and see if 6E is detected.
I returned the WiFi adapter and went back to the LAN cable I was originally using.
Regarding experimenting with those Linux LiveCD's you mentioned, I believe I'd have to install a driver to get the adapter to work. The thing is so new that not even Windows 11 will see it unless you download and install the driver.
I didn't test that Windows 10 driver you mentioned. What I don't like is that according to the developer's screenshots, Windows 10 doesn't know what WiFi channel you're on nor does it know you're using 6E. Upgrading to this thing is nice but not really urgent.
Which is the Wifi adapter BTW? If its Intel/MediaTek/Realtek its usually added in linux-firmware and usually Linux installs them anyway.Qualcomm or Killer drivers are delayed unusually and are buggy even after 5-6 years.
Note that the problem of the corrupt windows 11 with the message "windows could not display the images available for installation" was solved here: https://www.nomaher.com/forum/index.php?topic=14153.msg37603#msg37603
I'm going to try to release a new version of windows 11 soon.
Note that the Aero Glass transparency is broken in the new version (apparently it was removed since build 22571). And openshell is not working anymore. StartAllBack is working to restore a classic start menu, however there is no option to get the XP style with the programs on the right instead of a cascading menu. I'm trying to restore this.
Quote from: Vasudev on May 24, 2022, 05:25 PMWhich is the Wifi adapter BTW? If its Intel/MediaTek/Realtek its usually added in linux-firmware and usually Linux installs them anyway.Qualcomm or Killer drivers are delayed unusually and are buggy even after 5-6 years.
This is it (https://www.newegg.com/fenvi-fv-axe3000-pci-express/p/0XM-00JK-000A1?Description=wifi%206e%20adapter&cm_re=wifi_6e%20adapter-_-9SIADXZE416894-_-Product&quicklink=true). Windows sees it as a Realtek on Device Manager. The docs provide driver links for Windows but no instructions on how to install Linux drivers, assuming this is necessary.
Quote from: scarface on May 23, 2022, 11:43 PMNote that I made a new version of windows 11 (v 22621- probably the soon to be released next version).
While this version is working under vmware, I was unable to capture it and reinstall it with the new progams and layout, even if the same method was used for the previous versions available in this topic.
Let me ask you: I keep hearing that Windows 11 will be able to run Android program and (I believe) Linux apps. Have you been able to get your copies of W11 to do this? I haven't been able to.
I'm under the impression that this requires subsystems that can be installed using Control Panel -> Programs and Features. My copy of W11 won't do that under VirtualBox. Either there's something wrong with the ISO or I inadvertently disabled it.
Also AFAIK you can't run a virtual machine inside a virtual machine. Maybe that's it.
Quote from: humbert on May 26, 2022, 05:05 AMLet me ask you: I keep hearing that Windows 11 will be able to run Android program and (I believe) Linux apps. Have you been able to get your copies of W11 to do this? I haven't been able to.
I haven't been able to do this either. I tried to install 2 apk apps (Le monde and Le figaro), to no avail.
I think only a few apps (available in the Microsoft store) are compatible.
It's probably a marketing operation, because there is nothing new in Windows 11 compared to Windows 10.
It was confirmed that windows 11 v22621 was the RTM, or 22H2 edition. I will release something when it's ready.
Quote from: humbert on May 25, 2022, 05:15 AMQuote from: Vasudev on May 24, 2022, 05:25 PMWhich is the Wifi adapter BTW? If its Intel/MediaTek/Realtek its usually added in linux-firmware and usually Linux installs them anyway.Qualcomm or Killer drivers are delayed unusually and are buggy even after 5-6 years.
This is it (https://www.newegg.com/fenvi-fv-axe3000-pci-express/p/0XM-00JK-000A1?Description=wifi%206e%20adapter&cm_re=wifi_6e%20adapter-_-9SIADXZE416894-_-Product&quicklink=true). Windows sees it as a Realtek on Device Manager. The docs provide driver links for Windows but no instructions on how to install Linux drivers, assuming this is necessary.
Never heard of Fenvi.
I found some Ax201 Intel M.2 with PCIe adapter and antenna. https://www.newegg.com/edup-ep-ax210gs-pci-express/p/0XM-01CT-00034 (https://www.newegg.com/edup-ep-ax210gs-pci-express/p/0XM-01CT-00034)
Older Ax200 Intel M.2 https://www.newegg.com/p/0XM-011Z-00004?Item=9SIAE6ZB8E1548 (https://www.newegg.com/p/0XM-011Z-00004?Item=9SIAE6ZB8E1548)
Realtek Wifi could be buggy and needs more FW or drivers.
Quote from: Vasudev on May 26, 2022, 09:15 PMNever heard of Fenvi.
I found some Ax201 Intel M.2 with PCIe adapter and antenna. https://www.newegg.com/edup-ep-ax210gs-pci-express/p/0XM-01CT-00034 (https://www.newegg.com/edup-ep-ax210gs-pci-express/p/0XM-01CT-00034)
Older Ax200 Intel M.2 https://www.newegg.com/p/0XM-011Z-00004?Item=9SIAE6ZB8E1548 (https://www.newegg.com/p/0XM-011Z-00004?Item=9SIAE6ZB8E1548)
Realtek Wifi could be buggy and needs more FW or drivers.
The card you mentioned doesn't do 6E. What I'm trying to do is replace an ethernet cable that's on the floor protected by a cable protector. Occasionally people trip over it. My ISP is Google Fiber. My tests regularly show roughly 945 Mbps up and down consistently. Only 6E can come close. It'll probably go that fast because, as I explained, the PC is just 3½ meters from the router and there is a direct line of sight with no obstructions in between. Unfortunately getting this isn't possible at this time. It's too early to upgrade to Windows 11.
Realtek might be bad, but it's everywhere. I just checked device manager. The LAN controller on the motherboard is Realtek. The laptop WiFi 6 adapter I just returned was Realtek. So far every network adapter I've had, regardless of brand, uses a Realtek chipset. I'll bet you money that the WiFi adapter shown in your link has one too. They're like flies or roaches -- they're everywhere.
Quote from: humbert on May 28, 2022, 06:30 AMQuote from: Vasudev on May 26, 2022, 09:15 PMNever heard of Fenvi.
I found some Ax201 Intel M.2 with PCIe adapter and antenna. https://www.newegg.com/edup-ep-ax210gs-pci-express/p/0XM-01CT-00034 (https://www.newegg.com/edup-ep-ax210gs-pci-express/p/0XM-01CT-00034)
Older Ax200 Intel M.2 https://www.newegg.com/p/0XM-011Z-00004?Item=9SIAE6ZB8E1548 (https://www.newegg.com/p/0XM-011Z-00004?Item=9SIAE6ZB8E1548)
Realtek Wifi could be buggy and needs more FW or drivers.
The card you mentioned doesn't do 6E. What I'm trying to do is replace an ethernet cable that's on the floor protected by a cable protector. Occasionally people trip over it. My ISP is Google Fiber. My tests regularly show roughly 945 Mbps up and down consistently. Only 6E can come close. It'll probably go that fast because, as I explained, the PC is just 3½ meters from the router and there is a direct line of sight with no obstructions in between. Unfortunately getting this isn't possible at this time. It's too early to upgrade to Windows 11.
Realtek might be bad, but it's everywhere. I just checked device manager. The LAN controller on the motherboard is Realtek. The laptop WiFi 6 adapter I just returned was Realtek. So far every network adapter I've had, regardless of brand, uses a Realtek chipset. I'll bet you money that the WiFi adapter shown in your link has one too. They're like flies or roaches -- they're everywhere.
The first link had a typo, its ax210 instead of ax201 which actually supports 6E standard. I'll link a comparison of Intel's Wifi cards including Killer branding (Ax210,Ax211 and Ax411) Compare Intel Wifi 6E cards (https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/compare.html?productIds=217241,211486,217242,204837,204836)
Quote from: Vasudev on May 28, 2022, 09:02 PMThe first link had a typo, its ax210 instead of ax201 which actually supports 6E standard. I'll link a comparison of Intel's Wifi cards including Killer branding (Ax210,Ax211 and Ax411) Compare Intel Wifi 6E cards (https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/compare.html?productIds=217241,211486,217242,204837,204836)
I was looking at your link. The only differences I'm seeing is that the last 2 support "Double Connect" and the 3rd and 4th aren't supported under "Intel vPro Technology". Either way you can't get 6E unless you have Win11. I don't think Intel has a driver that allows Win10 to run 6E. It does have Win10 drivers, but all you get is Wifi 6. I've got to keep the cable until there's a fix or I eventually upgrade to Win11 as we all will.
Note that the new version of Windows 11 (22h2) is available here: https://www.nomaher.com/forum/index.php?topic=14153.msg37204#msg37204
This is a modified version of windows 11 build 22621 found on https://uupdump.net/
As you can see there are 2 start menus. A classic start menu was restored, but the original in the middle didn't disappear.
(https://i.ibb.co/ykTJVTZ/win11.jpg)
It has been difficult to do this version since there were major changes since the 1st edition of windows 11, at least during the installation process, and it has been particularly annoying.
At first it was impossible to capture the image and I had to add the cmd /Scratchdir, otherwise the image was corrupt (https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windows/en-US/0e114984-ef7e-4435-b294-aab7ea42f336/custom-installwim-install-problem)
Then I had a problem since there was a bug during oobe. Incredibly enough, it wasn't possible to create a pin as requested since the window was hidden (It was possible to see the window with Alt-tab, but it was staying in the background!). After a reboot I was finally able to start oobe again and maximize this window and create the pin.
Apparently it was already present in previous versions, but since I always create an offline account, I never had to deal with it. This bug is described here: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/382050/windows-hello-for-business-login-pin-screen-behind.html
So I tried to create an offline account to skip the pin creation...But it's not possible any longer. Indeed, Windows 11 22H2 apparently removes the option to set up the device with a local account even when your installation edition is Windows 11 Pro. So if you have no internet connection, you can't install Windows...
But I found a workaround with the command OOBE\BYPASSNRO
So if you want to install windows 11 22h2 with an offline account (and also bypass the pin setup), you can use the following tutorial which is pretty simple.
https://pureinfotech.com/bypass-internet-connection-install-windows-11/
In my opinion with the current setup I wouldn't be surprised if windows 11 ended up as a commercial failure.
The installation has become way too hard and you can't access certain settings easily (in this version windows defender is activated since it hasn't been possible to disable it, at least without deactivating other services).
What difference is there between the modified and non-modified versions? Is that the non-modified version only runs on newer hardware and requires TPM and secure boot? Did you check and see if you can install "Windows Subsystem for Android" so you can run Android apps with needing an emulator?
Personally I have no issue with newer hardware or TPM. I do have a major issue with secure boot. For example, if Win11 has a major issue and won't boot, how do you boot from a flashdrive to either restore a backup or run one of the many program to fix issues? So far I have no clear-cut answer to this problem.
Quote from: humbert on May 29, 2022, 05:34 AMQuote from: Vasudev on May 28, 2022, 09:02 PMThe first link had a typo, its ax210 instead of ax201 which actually supports 6E standard. I'll link a comparison of Intel's Wifi cards including Killer branding (Ax210,Ax211 and Ax411) Compare Intel Wifi 6E cards (https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/compare.html?productIds=217241,211486,217242,204837,204836)
I was looking at your link. The only differences I'm seeing is that the last 2 support "Double Connect" and the 3rd and 4th aren't supported under "Intel vPro Technology". Either way you can't get 6E unless you have Win11. I don't think Intel has a driver that allows Win10 to run 6E. It does have Win10 drivers, but all you get is Wifi 6. I've got to keep the cable until there's a fix or I eventually upgrade to Win11 as we all will.
I missed the windows update driver catalog which i added and it seems it was not saved. https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=ax211 (https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=ax211)
The first result should work as its compatible with Win 1809 to W11. Its good to have Ethernet like WiFi speeds and ditching cables is a good option when you run around and trip over loads of wires.
Quote from: humbert on May 31, 2022, 04:44 AMWhat difference is there between the modified and non-modified versions? Is that the non-modified version only runs on newer hardware and requires TPM and secure boot? Did you check and see if you can install "Windows Subsystem for Android" so you can run Android apps with needing an emulator?
Personally I have no issue with newer hardware or TPM. I do have a major issue with secure boot. For example, if Win11 has a major issue and won't boot, how do you boot from a flashdrive to either restore a backup or run one of the many program to fix issues? So far I have no clear-cut answer to this problem.
The non-modified version only runs on newer hardware and requires TPM and secure boot indeed. this version doesn't need TPM 2 and secure boot enabled. What's more, it's modified as you can see on the screenshot. Many programs were added (the same programs and reg tweaks are available in windows 10 and 7, however in windows 11 a few more tweaks were added to get back the classic right-click context menu and a start menu since the new graphic design is rotten for long time users).
You can find modified versions elsewhere like Phoenix Liteos, however I don't trust those Lite editions since many services are disabled. They can't be updated and they are not always reliable.
I didn't check if android apps could be installed.
If you are not sure whether you can install it or not, I advise you to test it in a virtual machine first. You should have another device to install a previous version or a spare hard-drive disk with an already installed operating system too.
For the moment, I think that the benefits of windows 11 over the previous editions are shabby. If your current system is working, maybe you should keep it.
Note that a new windows 11 edition will be available on the 13th of June.
In the next edition there will be a bigger start button:
(https://i.ibb.co/QQP0SfH/win11.jpg)
It might be useful if you are afflicted with poor eyesight. Actually, the size of the button was adjusted because a click below or above the previous button didn't open the start menu, and it was a bit annoying (A click above and nothing happened and below it was opening the weather widgets). What's more the weather widgets are disabled in the next version (via the integration of a hkcu reg keys). Sometimes they were interfering with the restored classic start menu (with the big icon it was probably not the case any more). They can be enabled again though the taskbar settings though.
Quote from: scarface on June 04, 2022, 10:18 PMNote that a new windows 11 edition will be available on the 13th of June.
In the next edition there will be a bigger start button:
All you keep hearing are these wonderful things Win11 can do compared to Win10. Despite this, in every forum I've read I've yet to see a single person saying something postitive about Win11. Everybody hates it.
Your release and all other should be for testing purposes only. It's far too early to upgrade from Win10.
Quote from: humbert on June 05, 2022, 05:44 AMQuote from: scarface on June 04, 2022, 10:18 PMNote that a new windows 11 edition will be available on the 13th of June.
In the next edition there will be a bigger start button:
All you keep hearing are these wonderful things Win11 can do compared to Win10. Despite this, in every forum I've read I've yet to see a single person saying something postitive about Win11. Everybody hates it.
Your release and all other should be for testing purposes only. It's far too early to upgrade from Win10.
90% of them upgraded due to clickbait and EoL fear from Win 10 to W11. Then again market share of W11 hasn't grown yet.
Scarface I think its better to do quarterly releases of W11 since the W11 users are a minority and majority of users use W10 anyway!
Quote from: Vasudev on June 05, 2022, 08:08 PM90% of them upgraded due to clickbait and EoL fear from Win 10 to W11. Then again market share of W11 hasn't grown yet.
Scarface I think its better to do quarterly releases of W11 since the W11 users are a minority and majority of users use W10 anyway!
The problem with Win11 is it's NOT FINISHED. Notice that all these wonderful things they talk about (support for Alder Lake, Android subsystem, and now ability to forward graphic data directly to the GPU) are all in the talking stages and/or scheduled for future releases. Notice that very few developers are writing Win11-specific hacks and configuration utilities. There is (for example) no Windows 11 Privacy program - at least not yet. And of course Win10 works very well and satisfies almost everyone's needs. This is especially true when tons of people have "unsupported" hardware that does everything they want it to do and don't really need to upgrade. I say give it at least another year before full-fledged adoption begins, if not more.
Quote from: humbert on June 06, 2022, 04:33 AMQuote from: Vasudev on June 05, 2022, 08:08 PM90% of them upgraded due to clickbait and EoL fear from Win 10 to W11. Then again market share of W11 hasn't grown yet.
Scarface I think its better to do quarterly releases of W11 since the W11 users are a minority and majority of users use W10 anyway!
The problem with Win11 is it's NOT FINISHED. Notice that all these wonderful things they talk about (support for Alder Lake, Android subsystem, and now ability to forward graphic data directly to the GPU) are all in the talking stages and/or scheduled for future releases. Notice that very few developers are writing Win11-specific hacks and configuration utilities. There is (for example) no Windows 11 Privacy program - at least not yet. And of course Win10 works very well and satisfies almost everyone's needs. This is especially true when tons of people have "unsupported" hardware that does everything they want it to do and don't really need to upgrade. I say give it at least another year before full-fledged adoption begins, if not more.
Maybe 2-3 years until everything is polished just like Win 10.
Since this was the number 1 reason for me to join this forum, I want to thank scarface for still making builds of Windows 7. I know it is entirely up to you if you continue making those or drop W7 already, but I am interested in seeing further builds from you. Thank you :) Oh and just to be sure, your builds do include the updates from the ESU program, correct?
Quote from: Guliver on June 07, 2022, 10:15 PMSince this was the number 1 reason for me to join this forum, I want to thank scarface for still making builds of Windows 7. I know it is entirely up to you if you continue making those or drop W7 already, but I am interested in seeing further builds from you. Thank you :) Oh and just to be sure, your builds do include the updates from the ESU program, correct?
Hi Guliver.
The window 7 version includes the ESU, indeed.
Quote from: Vasudev on June 07, 2022, 09:41 PMMaybe 2-3 years until everything is polished just like Win 10.
I agree! Micro$haft loves to release stuff as early as possible and then force to essentially beta test their stuff.
As long as few people have any interest in Win11, nobody is going to sit down and write hacks. As time goes on Win11 will change and change again. The hacks they write today might not even work tomorrow.
Quote from: scarface on June 08, 2022, 12:52 AMHi Guliver.
The window 7 version includes the ESU, indeed.
Awesome, thank you.
Note that new versions of Window 11 and Windows 7 with the latest updates are available here:
https://www.nomaher.com/forum/index.php?topic=14153.msg37204#msg37204
For the meantime Windows 10 will not be updated.
(https://i.ibb.co/m61vSjq/win11.png)
Thank you, Scarface :)
Are there any Windows 11 utilities out there? All I found is Yamic W11 Manager, and it's very incomplete when compared to the W10 version. No Windows11 Privacy or anything similar yet.
Quote from: humbert on July 12, 2022, 04:45 AMAre there any Windows 11 utilities out there? All I found is Yamic W11 Manager, and it's very incomplete when compared to the W10 version. No Windows11 Privacy or anything similar yet.
Download Privatezilla (https://github.com/builtbybel/privatezilla) or LoveWin11Again (https://github.com/builtbybel/LoveWindowsAgain)
I stopped using Yamicsoft products long time ago once I moved to Win 10.
Quote from: Vasudev on July 13, 2022, 06:20 PMDownload Privatezilla (https://github.com/builtbybel/privatezilla) or LoveWin11Again (https://github.com/builtbybel/LoveWindowsAgain)
I stopped using Yamicsoft products long time ago once I moved to Win 10.
Thanks for the tip. You're the man! :)
Quote from: humbert on July 14, 2022, 05:41 AMQuote from: Vasudev on July 13, 2022, 06:20 PMDownload Privatezilla (https://github.com/builtbybel/privatezilla) or LoveWin11Again (https://github.com/builtbybel/LoveWindowsAgain)
I stopped using Yamicsoft products long time ago once I moved to Win 10.
Thanks for the tip. You're the man! :)
You're welcome. The above works on win 10 and 11 w/o any issue and are simple to use.
I've probably asked you this before. Who is still actually using Windows 7? AFAIK any computer than can run Win7 can run Win10 -- and probably Win11 with those stupid restrictions removed.
Quote from: humbert on August 10, 2022, 05:15 AMI've probably asked you this before. Who is still actually using Windows 7? AFAIK any computer than can run Win7 can run Win10 -- and probably Win11 with those stupid restrictions removed.
You're probably right. Only Guliver expressed interest recently. Since windows 10 and 7 are ready they will be available soon on the forum. Windows 11 will be available later.
As for windows xp, it's still available here but it will be removed soon: https://www.nomaher.com/forum/index.php?topic=14153.msg37204#msg37204
If you need it download it quickly.
Since Maher stopped maintaing links for xp and 7 a while back, I decided to maintain those old versions but they have become obsolete indeed. Note that I may go back to windows 10 soon, I can't stand windows 11 anymore. I couldn't solve the sound lag (it seems this audio bug is affecting a lot of users with realtek hardware). In my opinion, this OS will be a failure like Vista.
Hello hello, you are right, Scarface :) I am still interested in your Windows 7 builds. I do have Windows 10 installed on a secondary partition but I dislike it so much that occasions when I boot it up are extremely rare. In fact, since you mentioned it, I still make use of XP as well, even though in a VM only. I am aware I will have to abandon Win7 at some point, but I am determined to put that off for as long as I reasonably can. So thank you for making that possible Scarface :)
Quote from: Guliver on August 10, 2022, 10:45 PMHello hello, you are right, Scarface :) I am still interested in your Windows 7 builds. I do have Windows 10 installed on a secondary partition but I dislike it so much that occasions when I boot it up are extremely rare. In fact, since you mentioned it, I still make use of XP as well, even though in a VM only. I am aware I will have to abandon Win7 at some point, but I am determined to put that off for as long as I reasonably can. So thank you for making that possible Scarface :)
As I see it, the problem with old operating systems is not that they're bad, it's lack of support. If you're running a relatively old system then Win7 will work fine. But if you upgrade to an Intel i9 or a AMD Ryzen, forget about anything under Win10. In fact, if I upgraded right now to the very latest hardware, I know I'd have to forcibly run Win11 for the same reason.
Quote from: humbert on May 28, 2022, 06:30 AMThe card you mentioned doesn't do 6E. What I'm trying to do is replace an ethernet cable that's on the floor protected by a cable protector. Occasionally people trip over it. My ISP is Google Fiber. My tests regularly show roughly 945 Mbps up and down consistently. Only 6E can come close. It'll probably go that fast because, as I explained, the PC is just 3½ meters from the router and there is a direct line of sight with no obstructions in between.
My assumption that a WiFi 6E device located in a straight line close to the router will result in close to gigabit internet is incorrect. I bought a Google Pixel 6 for my lady. On my router, the 6 GhZ WiFi 6E network has a separate SSID from the regular WiFi 6 (2.4/5 gHz) network. I connected the phone to the 6E network only. As expected, the signal doesn't go very far. When you're in the other room with a few walls in the middle, the signal strength is poor. Compare this with good to fair when on the WiFi 6 network. I then decided to sit next to the router and conducted speedtests on both networks. There was no noticeable difference in speeds.
Not only is WiFi 6E not really worth it, but if you want Gigabit speeds you must go with wired ethernet - no ifs, ands or buts.
Quote from: humbert on August 19, 2022, 04:33 AMQuote from: humbert on May 28, 2022, 06:30 AMThe card you mentioned doesn't do 6E. What I'm trying to do is replace an ethernet cable that's on the floor protected by a cable protector. Occasionally people trip over it. My ISP is Google Fiber. My tests regularly show roughly 945 Mbps up and down consistently. Only 6E can come close. It'll probably go that fast because, as I explained, the PC is just 3½ meters from the router and there is a direct line of sight with no obstructions in between.
My assumption that a WiFi 6E device located in a straight line close to the router will result in close to gigabit internet is incorrect. I bought a Google Pixel 6 for my lady. On my router, the 6 GhZ WiFi 6E network has a separate SSID from the regular WiFi 6 (2.4/5 gHz) network. I connected the phone to the 6E network only. As expected, the signal doesn't go very far. When you're in the other room with a few walls in the middle, the signal strength is poor. Compare this with good to fair when on the WiFi 6 network. I then decided to sit next to the router and conducted speedtests on both networks. There was no noticeable difference in speeds.
Not only is WiFi 6E not really worth it, but if you want Gigabit speeds you must go with wired ethernet - no ifs, ands or buts.
Indeed. Even with high end router wall interference cannot be overruled. You can mitigate with extenders all over the house but then again its too expensive to maintain.
How is the signal/coverage on LTE/5G(NSA mmW/SA non mmW) on Pixel 6?
Quote from: Vasudev on August 23, 2022, 09:24 PMIndeed. Even with high end router wall interference cannot be overruled. You can mitigate with extenders all over the house but then again its too expensive to maintain.
Definitely the best way to take advantage of 6E is to run a mesh system with as many satellites as you can afford. Mesh systems are expensive but they're slowly becoming more affordable. I believe I read somewhere some routers manufacturers are increasing the power on the 6E network to improve coverage. Even with all this, you still can't ignore the laws of physics. As I said, even 2-3 meters from the router I'm not seeing that 6 gHz is significantly faster than 5 gHz. Naturally both are much faster than 2.4 gHz. Let me run a few more tests and see what happens.
Quote from: Vasudev on August 23, 2022, 09:24 PMHow is the signal/coverage on LTE/5G(NSA mmW/SA non mmW) on Pixel 6?
The phone shows
5G UC when connected to a tower that supports it. UC stand for "Ultimate Capacity" (on T-Mobile), and basically it means the tower supports midband and highband, including MM waves. My old Oneplus 8 supports 5G but only on the low band frequencies (no UC). There is a noticeable difference. When near a UC tower the Pixel's download speed can easily exceed 500 Mbps both up and down. My old Oneplus barely goes over 50 Mpbs on the same tower at the same distance.
I'm planning to upgrade to a Pixel 7 when it comes out in October.
Quote from: humbert on August 25, 2022, 04:49 AMQuote from: Vasudev on August 23, 2022, 09:24 PMIndeed. Even with high end router wall interference cannot be overruled. You can mitigate with extenders all over the house but then again its too expensive to maintain.
Definitely the best way to take advantage of 6E is to run a mesh system with as many satellites as you can afford. Mesh systems are expensive but they're slowly becoming more affordable. I believe I read somewhere some routers manufacturers are increasing the power on the 6E network to improve coverage. Even with all this, you still can't ignore the laws of physics. As I said, even 2-3 meters from the router I'm not seeing that 6 gHz is significantly faster than 5 gHz. Naturally both are much faster than 2.4 gHz. Let me run a few more tests and see what happens.
Quote from: Vasudev on August 23, 2022, 09:24 PMHow is the signal/coverage on LTE/5G(NSA mmW/SA non mmW) on Pixel 6?
The phone shows 5G UC when connected to a tower that supports it. UC stand for "Ultimate Capacity" (on T-Mobile), and basically it means the tower supports midband and highband, including MM waves. My old Oneplus 8 supports 5G but only on the low band frequencies (no UC). There is a noticeable difference. When near a UC tower the Pixel's download speed can easily exceed 500 Mbps both up and down. My old Oneplus barely goes over 50 Mpbs on the same tower at the same distance.
I'm planning to upgrade to a Pixel 7 when it comes out in October.
Nice to hear your 5G speed is very good on TMO. I had to call up my carrier to enable LTE CA which pushed my download speed past 100Mbps and 50Mbps upload but they reverted it to 50-60Mbps for no reason.
I might upgrade to Pixel 7 or 7a if any of them are available in India. Wanted to know if network on tensor modem was worse than snapdragon.
Quote from: Vasudev on August 25, 2022, 09:54 PMNice to hear your 5G speed is very good on TMO. I had to call up my carrier to enable LTE CA which pushed my download speed past 100Mbps and 50Mbps upload but they reverted it to 50-60Mbps for no reason.
I might upgrade to Pixel 7 or 7a if any of them are available in India. Wanted to know if network on tensor modem was worse than snapdragon.
Is LTE CA some sort of LTE using higher frequencies? Is there no 5G in India just yet?
I honestly don't think Tensor is better than Snapdragon, or vice versa. I'm not seeing any difference. Then again I haven't run heavy benchmark tests either. Even if I did I'd have to run a test with something a little better than the Oneplus 8 and its Snapdragon's 855
Quote from: humbert on August 26, 2022, 06:06 AMQuote from: Vasudev on August 25, 2022, 09:54 PMNice to hear your 5G speed is very good on TMO. I had to call up my carrier to enable LTE CA which pushed my download speed past 100Mbps and 50Mbps upload but they reverted it to 50-60Mbps for no reason.
I might upgrade to Pixel 7 or 7a if any of them are available in India. Wanted to know if network on tensor modem was worse than snapdragon.
Is LTE CA some sort of LTE using higher frequencies? Is there no 5G in India just yet?
I honestly don't think Tensor is better than Snapdragon, or vice versa. I'm not seeing any difference. Then again I haven't run heavy benchmark tests either. Even if I did I'd have to run a test with something a little better than the Oneplus 8 and its Snapdragon's 855
It will combine multiple frequency or bands to net you better Download/Upload. With 2CA I was able to hit 100Mbps down and 50-75Mbps uploads. Actually mine supports upto 4CA so theoretical limit should be closer to 600-700Mbps on good signal.
Quote from: Vasudev on September 01, 2022, 09:08 PMIt will combine multiple frequency or bands to net you better Download/Upload. With 2CA I was able to hit 100Mbps down and 50-75Mbps uploads. Actually mine supports upto 4CA so theoretical limit should be closer to 600-700Mbps on good signal.
I'm thinking LTE CS is 5G by another name or some upgraded version, maybe using some other frequencies. 5G is designed precisely to combine multiple bands to improve data transfer. Do 2CA and 4CA refer to different frequencies available to you or what?
Quote from: humbert on September 02, 2022, 05:05 AMQuote from: Vasudev on September 01, 2022, 09:08 PMIt will combine multiple frequency or bands to net you better Download/Upload. With 2CA I was able to hit 100Mbps down and 50-75Mbps uploads. Actually mine supports upto 4CA so theoretical limit should be closer to 600-700Mbps on good signal.
I'm thinking LTE CS is 5G by another name or some upgraded version, maybe using some other frequencies. 5G is designed precisely to combine multiple bands to improve data transfer. Do 2CA and 4CA refer to different frequencies available to you or what?
Carrier Aggregation was present before 5G. 2,4 and 6CA improve a lot and bring 4G closer to wired optic fiber like speeds on the go. There is a battery hit though but unlike 5G it won't be a lot since LTE is mature enough and most chipsets can handle that.
New versions of Windows 7, 10 and 11 are finally available here for the users of the forum: https://www.nomaher.com/forum/index.php?topic=14153.msg37204#msg37204
I know that humbert, Vasudev and Guliver were eagerly waiting for these new versions (link in the previous message). I did not test them, so notify me in the event of a problem.
Hello and sorry for not posting lately, I've been busy with all kinds of stuff. Thank you once again Scarface for sharing an up to date build of windows 7 with us. You really are pulling the forum along all on your own these days, that's commendable.
Quote from: Guliver on September 28, 2022, 07:25 PMYou really are pulling the forum along all on your own these days, that's commendable.
I'm a bit tired too. Actually I left the Hauts-de-Seine lately and moved to Grenoble (I'm living in the southern suburb of the town) but I don't really like this town. I find it incredibly ugly even if there is a stunning panorama (the town is surrounded by mountains, like Islamabad, but I'm sure Islamabad is much prettier). The area in which I used to live was very wealthy. Here I have the impression of living in a ghetto.
If I came here it's essentially because I want to get rid of the house of my mother. This is a big house which needs little renovation and cumbersome furniture has to be moved. If I sell this house, located near Valence, in the Drôme department, humbert might be interested. This a perfect place for a young retiree. This place is very calm and most of the neighbours are over 60. However, to mingle in with the other residents, you have to speak French.
I don't know if I'm going to post many messages in the next few days, but I'll keep the versions of windows updated anyway.
Quote from: scarface on September 28, 2022, 09:26 PMI'm a bit tired too. Actually I left the Hauts-de-Seine lately and moved to Grenoble (I'm living in the southern suburb of the town) but I don't really like this town. I find it incredibly ugly even if there is a stunning panorama (the town is surrounded by mountains, like Islamabad, but I'm sure Islamabad is much prettier). The area in which I used to live was very wealthy. Here I have the impression of living in a ghetto.
If I came here it's essentially because I want to get rid of the house of my mother. This is a big house which needs little renovation and cumbersome furniture has to be moved. If I sell this house, located near Valence, in the Drôme department, humbert might be interested. This a perfect place for a young retiree. This place is very calm and most of the neighbours are over 60. However, to mingle in with the other residents, you have to speak French.
You left Hauts-de-Seine for no other reason than to try to sell your mom's house? Are you living there now until you finally find a buyer? If that's the case then where to you go after the house is sold?
I don't care how old I get. I will never interact with old people. That is, of course, unless they have the mind of someone much younger.
Note that new Nvidia drivers are available here:
https://www.nomaher.com/forum/index.php?topic=14153.msg37204#msg37204
PS: to humbert: I will reply via private message later.
Quote from: scarface on September 30, 2022, 07:15 PMPS: to humbert: I will reply via private message later.
I'll await your reply :) :)
Will check W7 and W11 copies.
Quote from: Vasudev on October 04, 2022, 06:33 PMWill check W7 and W11 copies.
Please do, and kindly report your findings on W11 and tell us your opinion.
New versions of windows as well as new Nvidia drivers are available in this topic.
Link here: https://www.nomaher.com/forum/index.php?topic=14153.msg37204#msg37204
I know that Vasudev and Gulliver were waiting for them.
Quote from: scarface on October 15, 2022, 11:02 PMNew versions of windows as well as new Nvidia drivers are available in this topic.
Link here: https://www.nomaher.com/forum/index.php?topic=14153.msg37204#msg37204
I know that Vasudev and Gulliver were waiting for them.
Hey scarface I totally forgot to download them. I was refreshing my archive ISOs of all Win 7/10/ ISOs and most of them were a year old Nov 2021 SF edition.
Quote from: Vasudev on October 29, 2022, 04:22 PMHey scarface I totally forgot to download them [Nvidia drivers]. I was refreshing my archive ISOs of all Win 7/10/ ISOs and most of them were a year old Nov 2021 SF edition.
Just curious: I can understand downloading Scarface's copies of Windows. But NVidia drivers? Can you just get those from Nvidia's website?
Quote from: humbert on October 30, 2022, 03:53 AMJust curious: I can understand downloading Scarface's copies of Windows. But NVidia drivers? Can you just get those from Nvidia's website?
Actually you can download them on the Nvdia website indeed.
But the drivers that I upload on the forum are not original, as explained in the message. This is a repack (a smaller version of the original installer). What's more this is a switchless installer.
By the way, note that they were updated today (available here: https://www.nomaher.com/forum/index.php?topic=14153.msg37204#msg37204)
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Quote from: humbert on October 30, 2022, 03:53 AMQuote from: Vasudev on October 29, 2022, 04:22 PMHey scarface I totally forgot to download them [Nvidia drivers]. I was refreshing my archive ISOs of all Win 7/10/ ISOs and most of them were a year old Nov 2021 SF edition.
Just curious: I can understand downloading Scarface's copies of Windows. But NVidia drivers? Can you just get those from Nvidia's website?
Yeah I used to but I found NvCleanstall which downloads only basic/recommended parts of your choosing potentially getting rid off bloatware or unused features I never use, now it downloads and can repackage with switchless installer and add modded gpu models and tweaks.
Quote from: Vasudev on October 30, 2022, 08:35 PMYeah I used to but I found NvCleanstall which downloads only basic/recommended parts of your choosing potentially getting rid off bloatware or unused features I never use, now it downloads and can repackage with switchless installer and add modded gpu models and tweaks.
Thanks for the tip. I googled it and downloaded a copy. How do you use it? Does Cleanstall download and install the driver for you according to what you want, or do you have to download it yourself?
Quote from: humbert on October 31, 2022, 12:12 AMQuote from: Vasudev on October 30, 2022, 08:35 PMYeah I used to but I found NvCleanstall which downloads only basic/recommended parts of your choosing potentially getting rid off bloatware or unused features I never use, now it downloads and can repackage with switchless installer and add modded gpu models and tweaks.
Thanks for the tip. I googled it and downloaded a copy. How do you use it? Does Cleanstall download and install the driver for you according to what you want, or do you have to download it yourself?
If you refer this guide here https://www.techpowerup.com/nvcleanstall/ (https://www.techpowerup.com/nvcleanstall/) you will see 3 options:
- Download latest version
- Download specific version
- Use extracted directory of existing driver exe if you have downloaded previously
I usually did step 3 which is downloading full driver suite and then removing bloatware. Now step 1 or 2 and letting nvcleanstall will download extracted drivers and downloads to temp folder and download size is around 400MB instead of 800-900MB drivers
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Quote from: Vasudev on October 31, 2022, 07:11 PMIf you refer this guide here https://www.techpowerup.com/nvcleanstall/ (https://www.techpowerup.com/nvcleanstall/) you will see 3 options:
Download latest version
Download specific version
Use extracted directory of existing driver exe if you have downloaded previously
I usually did step 3 which is downloading full driver suite and then removing bloatware. Now step 1 or 2 and letting nvcleanstall will download extracted drivers and downloads to temp folder and download size is around 400MB instead of 800-900MB drivers
Well, I only used Nvslimmer till now. It was slimming down the drivers and then I was doing the switchless installer myself.
But you say that you can get a 400 mb repack with Nvcleaninstall (My repack size is 700 mb). Then I'm going to test it see what kind of "bloatware" it can find in those drivers.
Quote from: Vasudev on October 31, 2022, 07:11 PMIf you refer this guide here https://www.techpowerup.com/nvcleanstall (https://www.techpowerup.com/nvcleanstall/) you will see 3 options:
- Download latest version
- Download specific version
- Use extracted directory of existing driver exe if you have downloaded previously
Thanks for the tip. I was seeing the different options on the web site. What NVidia card do you have and what options do you select?
Also, do you necessarily have to go to NVidia's web site and download the driver package file, or does NVCleaninstall do that for you?
Will it remove (or at least disable) garbage from previous installations?
Quote from: Vasudev on October 31, 2022, 07:11 PMnvcleanstall will download extracted drivers and downloads to temp folder and download size is around 400MB instead of 800-900MB drivers
To Vasudev:
I tested Nvcleaninstall and I get a 700mb repack and not a 400mb repack (it's practically the same repack). I don't only include core drivers but also Physx and Nvcontainer. Selecting only the core drivers, I get a 664mb repack (once compressed), I would be curious to see your 400Mb repack. At least you can't get this with Nvcleaninstall.
Quote from: humbert on November 01, 2022, 02:50 AMQuote from: Vasudev on October 31, 2022, 07:11 PMIf you refer this guide here https://www.techpowerup.com/nvcleanstall (https://www.techpowerup.com/nvcleanstall/) you will see 3 options:
- Download latest version
- Download specific version
- Use extracted directory of existing driver exe if you have downloaded previously
Thanks for the tip. I was seeing the different options on the web site. What NVidia card do you have and what options do you select?
Also, do you necessarily have to go to NVidia's web site and download the driver package file, or does NVCleaninstall do that for you?
Will it remove (or at least disable) garbage from previous installations?
Quote from: scarface on November 01, 2022, 05:52 PMQuote from: Vasudev on October 31, 2022, 07:11 PMnvcleanstall will download extracted drivers and downloads to temp folder and download size is around 400MB instead of 800-900MB drivers
To Vasudev:
I tested Nvcleaninstall and I get a 700mb repack and not a 400mb repack (it's practically the same repack). I don't only include core drivers but also Physx and Nvcontainer. Selecting only the core drivers, I get a 664mb repack (once compressed), I would be curious to see your 400Mb repack. At least you can't get this with Nvcleaninstall.
I have maxwell 980M card so for me only core driver + HD audio is necessary and rest are unneeded. I don't use PhysX since most games fallback to CPU PhysX and GPU isn't used anymore. Anyway I'm using 496.xx DCH driver since newer driver caused more battery drain and blackscreen post install.
@humbert: I think for current install you need to use DDU to wipe existing driver and use NvCleanStall repackaged drivers to see the changes.
Quote from: Vasudev on November 01, 2022, 06:26 PMI have maxwell 980M card so for me only core driver + HD audio is necessary and rest are unneeded. I don't use PhysX since most games fallback to CPU PhysX and GPU isn't used anymore. Anyway I'm using 496.xx DCH driver since newer driver caused more battery drain and blackscreen post install.
@humbert: I think for current install you need to use DDU to wipe existing driver and use NvCleanStall repackaged drivers to see the changes.
Thanks for the information. I have 3 questions:
1) If you install PhysX driver, the game will fall back to the CPU regardless? Or will this force the game to use the GPU? Also, for sound I use Logitech speakers connected the the board's sound card. To need to install HDMI audio, right?
2) I looked up DDU. It's a driver uninstaller program. It says you must disconnect from the internet or block Windows updates until you've reinstalled the new drivers. How did you do it? Did you download the driver file first and reinstall offline?
3) Did you use DDU normal mode or safe mode?
Quote from: humbert on November 02, 2022, 04:21 AMQuote from: Vasudev on November 01, 2022, 06:26 PMI have maxwell 980M card so for me only core driver + HD audio is necessary and rest are unneeded. I don't use PhysX since most games fallback to CPU PhysX and GPU isn't used anymore. Anyway I'm using 496.xx DCH driver since newer driver caused more battery drain and blackscreen post install.
@humbert: I think for current install you need to use DDU to wipe existing driver and use NvCleanStall repackaged drivers to see the changes.
Thanks for the information. I have 3 questions:
1) If you install PhysX driver, the game will fall back to the CPU regardless? Or will this force the game to use the GPU? Also, for sound I use Logitech speakers connected the the board's sound card. To need to install HDMI audio, right?
2) I looked up DDU. It's a driver uninstaller program. It says you must disconnect from the internet or block Windows updates until you've reinstalled the new drivers. How did you do it? Did you download the driver file first and reinstall offline?
3) Did you use DDU normal mode or safe mode?
Answer 1) HD audio is helpful when using monitor or TV and doesn't affect audio when you're using internal audio out port which is connected to speaker.
Answer 2) Yeah I use safe mode since Win 10 will download new driver in background in normal mode or non-safe mode
Answer 3) You will see better results in safe mode and ensure complete cleanup of directories or reg entries which will be in-use by explorer or other processes leaving remnants/leftovers. You can tweak the option to start in safe mode and disable driver downloads through Windows update.
Quote from: Vasudev on November 02, 2022, 06:15 PMAnswer 1) HD audio is helpful when using monitor or TV and doesn't affect audio when you're using internal audio out port which is connected to speaker.
Answer 2) Yeah I use safe mode since Win 10 will download new driver in background in normal mode or non-safe mode
Answer 3) You will see better results in safe mode and ensure complete cleanup of directories or reg entries which will be in-use by explorer or other processes leaving remnants/leftovers. You can tweak the option to start in safe mode and disable driver downloads through Windows update.
So basically the thing to do after making a full backup is: (1) Run DDU in safe mode; and (2) Run NVCleaninstall after DDU finishes, right?
Did you download the driver manually or did you let NVClean do that job?
If you select PhyX will the game automatically ignore that driver and use the CPU? In that case the thing to do is install PhyX for older games that don't support this feature. Right??
Is all this more or less correct so I can proceed? I've never used this before and I'd like to do it right.
Quote from: humbert on November 03, 2022, 04:41 AMQuote from: Vasudev on November 02, 2022, 06:15 PMAnswer 1) HD audio is helpful when using monitor or TV and doesn't affect audio when you're using internal audio out port which is connected to speaker.
Answer 2) Yeah I use safe mode since Win 10 will download new driver in background in normal mode or non-safe mode
Answer 3) You will see better results in safe mode and ensure complete cleanup of directories or reg entries which will be in-use by explorer or other processes leaving remnants/leftovers. You can tweak the option to start in safe mode and disable driver downloads through Windows update.
So basically the thing to do after making a full backup is: (1) Run DDU in safe mode; and (2) Run NVCleaninstall after DDU finishes, right?
Did you download the driver manually or did you let NVClean do that job?
If you select PhyX will the game automatically ignore that driver and use the CPU? In that case the thing to do is install PhyX for older games that don't support this feature. Right??
Is all this more or less correct so I can proceed? I've never used this before and I'd like to do it right.
Frankly, I didn't take any backup for driver uninstalls since I keep 2 sets of driver i.e current working debloated package and newer driver if newer one has issue, I will run DDU again and run previous driver version.
Used to manually download them but you can try easier download via Nvcleanstall.
Actually I always had Physx set to GPU and max settings in Batman games but recent driver 44x.xx started seeing choppy FPS drops with Physx and CPU usage was pegged at 100% for no reason, I tried ancient drivers from MSFT update and it doesn't ship with PhysX and had used newer control panel and driver fixes which didn't have FPS drop or choppiness. So, I decided to uninstall PhysX and perf is similar to MSFT nvidia driver. Also, I enabled low latency mode which reduced micro-stutters on DCH driver I had been facing for past year or so.
Note that new versions of windows 7, 10 and 11 will be available on the forum next week.
A final and slimmed down version of windows 7 will be released in January 2023 after support is officially ended.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-jGcU1VPcg
(https://i.ibb.co/LkL4bk9/baboon2.jpg)
Quote from: scarface on November 04, 2022, 09:12 PMNote that new versions of windows 7, 10 and 11 will be available on the forum next week.
A final and slimmed down version of windows 7 will be released in January 2023 after support is officially ended.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-jGcU1VPcg
(https://i.ibb.co/LkL4bk9/baboon2.jpg)
That would be great a final Win 7 ISO which will be remembered for years to come. I will cancel current downloads of W7/11 ISOs and will wait for new releases.
Quote from: Vasudev on November 05, 2022, 06:24 PMThat would be great a final Win 7 ISO which will be remembered for years to come. I will cancel current downloads of W7/11 ISOs and will wait for new releases.
That's probably the right thing to do. I don't know if I will release a new version of windows 7 this month actually because I have a data usage limit. Ever since I left the Hauts-de-Seine, I didn't buy a new internet subscription - but I have 150 GB/ month with my smartphone, that I use as a modem, which is barely enough (when I upload 3 windows isos on Mega, it takes at least 10 GB of data).
Note that I have work to do tomorrow and at the beginning of next week so I'm counting on humbert, shadow.97, Gulliver and you to animate the forum.
Quote from: Vasudev on November 03, 2022, 07:18 PMActually I always had Physx set to GPU and max settings in Batman games but recent driver 44x.xx started seeing choppy FPS drops with Physx and CPU usage was pegged at 100% for no reason, I tried ancient drivers from MSFT update and it doesn't ship with PhysX and had used newer control panel and driver fixes which didn't have FPS drop or choppiness. So, I decided to uninstall PhysX and perf is similar to MSFT nvidia driver. Also, I enabled low latency mode which reduced micro-stutters on DCH driver I had been facing for past year or so.
I ran DDU and NVCleaninstall with no issues. Based on what everybody says I didn't install the PhysX driver. The NVidia control Panel's PhysX tab gives you the option of that to do with PhysX. The choices are either Auto, GPU, or CPU. I selected CPU. I guess if I had installed the driver I would have just left it at Auto. That way the game isn't forced to go to the GPU for PhyX and any only old games can use the GPU.
Quote from: humbert on November 06, 2022, 03:08 AMQuote from: Vasudev on November 03, 2022, 07:18 PMActually I always had Physx set to GPU and max settings in Batman games but recent driver 44x.xx started seeing choppy FPS drops with Physx and CPU usage was pegged at 100% for no reason, I tried ancient drivers from MSFT update and it doesn't ship with PhysX and had used newer control panel and driver fixes which didn't have FPS drop or choppiness. So, I decided to uninstall PhysX and perf is similar to MSFT nvidia driver. Also, I enabled low latency mode which reduced micro-stutters on DCH driver I had been facing for past year or so.
I ran DDU and NVCleaninstall with no issues. Based on what everybody says I didn't install the PhysX driver. The NVidia control Panel's PhysX tab gives you the option of that to do with PhysX. The choices are either Auto, GPU, or CPU. I selected CPU. I guess if I had installed the driver I would have just left it at Auto. That way the game isn't forced to go to the GPU for PhyX and any only old games can use the GPU.
If you installed nvidia physx it should run off nvidia gpu now it will fallback to cpu mode.
Quote from: Vasudev on November 08, 2022, 06:26 PMIf you installed nvidia physx it should run off nvidia gpu now it will fallback to cpu mode.
That's what I think. As I see it,
Auto Select (recommended) is the way to go. The app gets to pick the CPU or GPU, whichever is more favorable.
Im currently working in Lyon but a New version of windows 11 could be available tonight on the forum.
It seems the new win11 I made is corrupt. New releases are postponed...for now.
The October editions are still available in this topic if nothing new is released.
(https://i.ibb.co/2Mvx40m/win11.jpg)
Quote from: humbert on November 06, 2022, 03:08 AMI ran DDU and NVCleaninstall with no issues. Based on what everybody says I didn't install the PhysX driver. The NVidia control Panel's PhysX tab gives you the option of that to do with PhysX. The choices are either Auto, GPU, or CPU. I selected CPU. I guess if I had installed the driver I would have just left it at Auto. That way the game isn't forced to go to the GPU for PhyX and any only old games can use the GPU.
I received the RTX-3060. It seems NvCleanstall isn't advanced enough to perform a driver and software installation on newer graphics cards. I tried NvCleanstall online and offline and in both cases it would just freeze up in the middle of the installation. I had to double-click NVidia's file directly to get the job done. I noticed that when you click Custom Installation it too gives you the option of installing what you want. I chose drivers, PhysX, and audio while leaving out Experience and everything else. It even gives you the option of performing a clean installation. I chose that too. It's almost as if you don't even need NvCleanstall.
Quote from: humbert on November 11, 2022, 01:22 AMQuote from: humbert on November 06, 2022, 03:08 AMI ran DDU and NVCleaninstall with no issues. Based on what everybody says I didn't install the PhysX driver. The NVidia control Panel's PhysX tab gives you the option of that to do with PhysX. The choices are either Auto, GPU, or CPU. I selected CPU. I guess if I had installed the driver I would have just left it at Auto. That way the game isn't forced to go to the GPU for PhyX and any only old games can use the GPU.
I received the RTX-3060. It seems NvCleanstall isn't advanced enough to perform a driver and software installation on newer graphics cards. I tried NvCleanstall online and offline and in both cases it would just freeze up in the middle of the installation. I had to double-click NVidia's file directly to get the job done. I noticed that when you click Custom Installation it too gives you the option of installing what you want. I chose drivers, PhysX, and audio while leaving out Experience and everything else. It even gives you the option of performing a clean installation. I chose that too. It's almost as if you don't even need NvCleanstall.
You could configure in adv. section or tweaks section for express un-attended installs. They released new version yesterday. https://www.techpowerup.com/nvcleanstall/
Quote from: Vasudev on November 19, 2022, 07:37 PMYou could configure in adv. section or tweaks section for express un-attended installs. They released new version yesterday. https://www.techpowerup.com/nvcleanstall/
In the Nvcleanstall link I'm not seeing any option for unattended install. You select what you want and Nvcleanstall does the rest.
Unless I did something wrong I couldn't install the Nvidia software with Nvcleanstall. For starters it didn't download the driver. When I downloaded it myself and pointed to it, it just froze up. I'm thinking it'll work OK for my old card (GTX-970) but not for the new one (RTX-3060).
Quote from: humbert on November 20, 2022, 04:49 AMQuote from: Vasudev on November 19, 2022, 07:37 PMYou could configure in adv. section or tweaks section for express un-attended installs. They released new version yesterday. https://www.techpowerup.com/nvcleanstall/
In the Nvcleanstall link I'm not seeing any option for unattended install. You select what you want and Nvcleanstall does the rest.
Unless I did something wrong I couldn't install the Nvidia software with Nvcleanstall. For starters it didn't download the driver. When I downloaded it myself and pointed to it, it just froze up. I'm thinking it'll work OK for my old card (GTX-970) but not for the new one (RTX-3060).
You can installation tweaks screenshot of NvCleanStall https://www.techpowerup.com/nvcleanstall/ (https://www.techpowerup.com/nvcleanstall/)
Some GPU/OEM needs specific driver inf names for it to install and you can add it via Modded driver inf to add your 3060 RTX OEM name which will help in bypassing the whitelisted inf searching and get you newer driver but it might cause blackscreen, I will advise not doing regular driver and upgrade only if necessary or if bugfixes are specifically noted in changelog.
Quote from: humbert on November 20, 2022, 04:49 AMQuote from: Vasudev on November 19, 2022, 07:37 PMYou could configure in adv. section or tweaks section for express un-attended installs. They released new version yesterday. https://www.techpowerup.com/nvcleanstall/
In the Nvcleanstall link I'm not seeing any option for unattended install. You select what you want and Nvcleanstall does the rest.
Unless I did something wrong I couldn't install the Nvidia software with Nvcleanstall. For starters it didn't download the driver. When I downloaded it myself and pointed to it, it just froze up. I'm thinking it'll work OK for my old card (GTX-970) but not for the new one (RTX-3060).
For laptops it is(was?) generally recommended to use the manufacturers graphics drivers, I had priority alienware support back in the day due to all the issues mine had.
They gave a thorough explanation which could be summarised as them making changes to powerplans, and specific driver changes for stability.
But he also said that it should be fine to use Nvidias own and such, but Dell support will have very limited ability to ensure stability if not using manufacturers drivers due to less amount of people reporting such issues to Dell. And not updating/uploading all the newest drivers was a way to be able to first validate inhouse before releasing the driver publicly on their site. Which unfortunately leads to some devices not having manufacturer updated drivers for a long time.
If laptop would be sent in, they would also not troubleshoot further until they had the officially recommended driver.
Quote from: Shadow.97 on November 20, 2022, 08:33 PMQuote from: humbert on November 20, 2022, 04:49 AMQuote from: Vasudev on November 19, 2022, 07:37 PMYou could configure in adv. section or tweaks section for express un-attended installs. They released new version yesterday. https://www.techpowerup.com/nvcleanstall/
In the Nvcleanstall link I'm not seeing any option for unattended install. You select what you want and Nvcleanstall does the rest.
Unless I did something wrong I couldn't install the Nvidia software with Nvcleanstall. For starters it didn't download the driver. When I downloaded it myself and pointed to it, it just froze up. I'm thinking it'll work OK for my old card (GTX-970) but not for the new one (RTX-3060).
For laptops it is(was?) generally recommended to use the manufacturers graphics drivers, I had priority alienware support back in the day due to all the issues mine had.
They gave a thorough explanation which could be summarised as them making changes to powerplans, and specific driver changes for stability.
But he also said that it should be fine to use Nvidias own and such, but Dell support will have very limited ability to ensure stability if not using manufacturers drivers due to less amount of people reporting such issues to Dell. And not updating/uploading all the newest drivers was a way to be able to first validate inhouse before releasing the driver publicly on their site. Which unfortunately leads to some devices not having manufacturer updated drivers for a long time.
If laptop would be sent in, they would also not troubleshoot further until they had the officially recommended driver.
Yeah currently most vendors have started adding customised version of nvidia/amd/intel arc drivers. You will see release notes/changelog in nvidia generic driver saying added MSI/Asus black screen of death while installing. Those customised power plans/profiles are a mess and ruined my windows 10 experience on every upgrade.
Quote from: Vasudev on November 24, 2022, 04:44 PMYeah currently most vendors have started adding customised version of nvidia/amd/intel arc drivers. You will see release notes/changelog in nvidia generic driver saying added MSI/Asus black screen of death while installing. Those customised power plans/profiles are a mess and ruined my windows 10 experience on every upgrade.
I downloaded all video drivers from MSI's web site. That's what I'll use. What I fail to understand is why there are 2 drivers: Intel and Nvidia. Isn't 1 enough?
Quote from: humbert on November 25, 2022, 05:05 AMQuote from: Vasudev on November 24, 2022, 04:44 PMYeah currently most vendors have started adding customised version of nvidia/amd/intel arc drivers. You will see release notes/changelog in nvidia generic driver saying added MSI/Asus black screen of death while installing. Those customised power plans/profiles are a mess and ruined my windows 10 experience on every upgrade.
I downloaded all video drivers from MSI's web site. That's what I'll use. What I fail to understand is why there are 2 drivers: Intel and Nvidia. Isn't 1 enough?
If you were on Linux I'm pretty sure they use a hybrid driver.
But on Windows, you often use both graphicschips, you can often select which in nvidia preferences. If you notice odd performance it is likely why.
If you rightclick an icon, if i recall correctly there should be a "launch with intel hd" or "launch with nvidia" as a submenu. I dont remember exactly.
By deactivating the nvidia chip in device manager/bios you can often achieve much greater battery life.
For normal webbrowsing I'm fairly certain the nvidia chip doesnt lift a leg.
The double graphicschips working together is also why you often get a black screen if you try to livestream the screen using nvenc, as intel renders the desktop and doesnt send it off to nvenc.
Quote from: humbert on November 25, 2022, 05:05 AMQuote from: Vasudev on November 24, 2022, 04:44 PMYeah currently most vendors have started adding customised version of nvidia/amd/intel arc drivers. You will see release notes/changelog in nvidia generic driver saying added MSI/Asus black screen of death while installing. Those customised power plans/profiles are a mess and ruined my windows 10 experience on every upgrade.
I downloaded all video drivers from MSI's web site. That's what I'll use. What I fail to understand is why there are 2 drivers: Intel and Nvidia. Isn't 1 enough?
Yeah downloading from MSI site is sufficient, if your model has dGPU only mode which can pass A/V over HDMI/USBC/TB4 then you can uninstall intel driver which will remove quick sync video and others. Like Shadow97 said Intel GPU favors power saving over perf while comparing against nvidia.
Quote from: Vasudev on November 25, 2022, 04:29 PMYeah downloading from MSI site is sufficient, if your model has dGPU only mode which can pass A/V over HDMI/USBC/TB4 then you can uninstall intel driver which will remove quick sync video and others. Like Shadow97 said Intel GPU favors power saving over perf while comparing against nvidia.
I finally started playing around with my new laptop today. I love it! Installing the OS I wanted was much easier than I thought. Go into the BIOS and disable the hated secure boot. Boot from Sergei's ISO, delete the partitions after first making a backup, then boot from a Win11 flashdrive and install. Not only that, but there was no need to install each one of the drivers I downloaded. Windows update did the entire job. Everything on Device Manager works properly, no items with yellow questions marks or any other strange indicators.
Next step is to configure it, clean it up, and slowly reinstall the apps and configure them. And it's so easy to use! I thought I'd never say this, but guys, I actually LIKE Windows 11! It's fast as hell, very stable, and generally easier to use than I previously believed! I'm even thinking of upgrading my desktop to 11. Life is strange, eh?
Note that a new and better version of windows 11 22H2 will be released on December the 13th.
In the previous version, Windows Defender wasn't deactivated, this time it will be deactivated (it's useless if you are using a third-party antivirus).
Note that the taskbar will now be transparent.
(https://i.ibb.co/9bDW5rv/win11.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq9iMnlOjRY
Quote from: scarface on November 26, 2022, 03:00 PMNote that a new and better version of windows 11 22H2 will be released on December the 13th.
In the previous version, Windows Defender wasn't deactivated, this time it will be deactivated (it's useless if you are using a third-party antivirus).
Good! I can hardly wait. Windows Defender is a true pest. It fiercely goes after any patch or anything that'll modify the system while at the same time ignoring real malware. Its job is to protect and defend Microsoft and its telemetry. When I ran Windows 10 Privacy and Sordum Defender Control, it went after them like a hungry lion. Disabling it is difficult but not impossible.
Another bug the OS has is that the start menu won't automatically update. If you create a shortcut and put it in the same folder where the rest of the shortcuts reside, it won't see it. I googled it and they offer some solutions, including restarting Explorer.
Quote from: humbert on November 26, 2022, 07:05 AMQuote from: Vasudev on November 25, 2022, 04:29 PMYeah downloading from MSI site is sufficient, if your model has dGPU only mode which can pass A/V over HDMI/USBC/TB4 then you can uninstall intel driver which will remove quick sync video and others. Like Shadow97 said Intel GPU favors power saving over perf while comparing against nvidia.
I finally started playing around with my new laptop today. I love it! Installing the OS I wanted was much easier than I thought. Go into the BIOS and disable the hated secure boot. Boot from Sergei's ISO, delete the partitions after first making a backup, then boot from a Win11 flashdrive and install. Not only that, but there was no need to install each one of the drivers I downloaded. Windows update did the entire job. Everything on Device Manager works properly, no items with yellow questions marks or any other strange indicators.
Next step is to configure it, clean it up, and slowly reinstall the apps and configure them. And it's so easy to use! I thought I'd never say this, but guys, I actually LIKE Windows 11! It's fast as hell, very stable, and generally easier to use than I previously believed! I'm even thinking of upgrading my desktop to 11. Life is strange, eh?
In BIOS, disable UEFI capsule update from Windows or something option to prevent windows from updating firmware automatically. Also install audio, TB4/USB4 firmware etc..
Assuming you've bought Intel you can give Counter Control (https://www.techpowerup.com/download/counter-control/#changes-1-2) a try! Or you can ThrottleStop and enable Defender Boost which will prevent Defender from slowing down PC due to consistent querying of perf. counters on intel CPUs, it seems 12th gen is unaffected.
Win 11 works better on newer hardware that satisfies the reqmts otherwise I noticed perf. hiccups or slowdowns and buggy experience.
Quote from: Vasudev on November 27, 2022, 05:24 PMIn BIOS, disable UEFI capsule update from Windows or something option to prevent windows from updating firmware automatically. Also install audio, TB4/USB4 firmware etc..
I had no idea it was possible to upgrade the motherboard's firmware from Windows update. What I've done in the past is to into the manufacturer's web site, download the file, boot into the BIOS and upgrade with the board's firmware.
TB4 - USB4? Do you mean Thunderbolt? My lappie has it and drivers are installed. Haven't had the time to play around with it just yet. Not all that sure what it does.
Quote from: Vasudev on November 27, 2022, 05:24 PMOr you can ThrottleStop and enable Defender Boost which will prevent Defender from slowing down PC due to consistent querying of perf. counters on intel CPUs, it seems 12th gen is unaffected.
I finally got Defender under control. As you're aware you can disable it in the Group Policy Editor. There's still a pesky notification every now and then, but you can dismiss it.
Quote from: Vasudev on November 27, 2022, 05:24 PMWin 11 works better on newer hardware that satisfies the reqmts otherwise I noticed perf. hiccups or slowdowns and buggy experience.
Exactly why I had to install W11. Pro in my case. At this moment my biggest complaint is that the start menu is essentially broken. I did find some workarounds that make it usable until they fix it. I also decided to leave the start menu icon in the middle of the taskbar. At least for now.
Quote from: humbert on November 28, 2022, 05:39 AMQuote from: Vasudev on November 27, 2022, 05:24 PMIn BIOS, disable UEFI capsule update from Windows or something option to prevent windows from updating firmware automatically. Also install audio, TB4/USB4 firmware etc..
Best way to test USB4-TB4 is by connecting your phone via USBC-USBC cable or even USBC-lightning if you're on iphone which should detect as mass storage or something w/o needing drivers or adb drivers. MSFT has stricter rules regarding backwards compatibility with USB 2/3 when connecting a USBC to USB-A OTG adapter or even thumb/flash drive/SSD.
Quote from: Vasudev on November 28, 2022, 03:41 PMBest way to test USB4-TB4 is by connecting your phone via USBC-USBC cable or even USBC-lightning if you're on iphone which should detect as mass storage or something w/o needing drivers or adb drivers. MSFT has stricter rules regarding backwards compatibility with USB 2/3 when connecting a USBC to USB-A OTG adapter or even thumb/flash drive/SSD.
The Thunderbolt port on the lappie is USB-C. One of these days I'll connect something to it just to see what happens.
In the mean time Windows 11 is starting to misbehave. I should have known that what I said previously was good to be true. The problem with the start menu is that when you put lnk files in the folder where they reside, sometimes the start menu app sees them and sometimes it doesn't. Now out of the clear blue sky I'm getting a 0x80070001 error. Windows Update is dysfunctional. It sees the files to be updated but crashes as soon as the download starts. This is also affecting the Windows Store app. Same situation: the store app works, it gets you the program you want, and the download crashes as soon as it begins.
When you Google 0x80070001 you go crazy. There are gazillions of possible reason this error could happen. I've tried everything they've suggested and nothing works. I even tried reinstalling and keeping the files. Nope! Got that disgusting "we couldn't install your updates, removing changes" garbage.
I have some backups taken a few days ago. Maybe I could restore one to see if Windows Update works. Even so, it mean's I'd have to reinstall and configure my apps from scratch.
As always, M$ sells its buggy software and uses all of us as beta testers.
Quote from: humbert on November 29, 2022, 05:51 AMQuote from: Vasudev on November 28, 2022, 03:41 PMIn the mean time Windows 11 is starting to misbehave. I should have known that what I said previously was good to be true. The problem with the start menu is that when you put lnk files in the folder where they reside, sometimes the start menu app sees them and sometimes it doesn't. Now out of the clear blue sky I'm getting a 0x80070001 error. Windows Update is dysfunctional. It sees the files to be updated but crashes as soon as the download starts. This is also affecting the Windows Store app. Same situation: the store app works, it gets you the program you want, and the download crashes as soon as it begins.
When you Google 0x80070001 you go crazy. There are gazillions of possible reason this error could happen. I've tried everything they've suggested and nothing works. I even tried reinstalling and keeping the files. Nope! Got that disgusting "we couldn't install your updates, removing changes" garbage.
I have some backups taken a few days ago. Maybe I could restore one to see if Windows Update works. Even so, it mean's I'd have to reinstall and configure my apps from scratch.
As always, M$ sells its buggy software and uses all of us as beta testers.
Try eventviewer and bluescreenview.
Eventviewer, look at critical/warnings right before it bluescreened.
With bluescreen view it should say which driver/device was responsible.
Quote from: Shadow.97 on November 29, 2022, 08:49 PMTry eventviewer and bluescreenview.
Eventviewer, look at critical/warnings right before it bluescreened.
With bluescreen view it should say which driver/device was responsible.
Thanks for your help but I'm not too clear what you mean. I'm assuming "bluescreen" is not the BSOD. Are these programs and/or features to help find the root of a problem?
Please walk me through it. I try Windows Update or the Windows Store. It finds the necessary files. The download begins and promptly crashes. I get error 0x80070001. Mind you this is all that happens. The OS continues to work as normal. It's just that I can't download from these 2 sources. If you were me, what exactly would you do next?
I've tried
everything. SFC/scannow and all flavors of DISM report no issues. Even restoring 2 old backups didn't solve the problem. Other than this and the broken start menu, the OS runs great not including some compatibility issues with some programs.
Quote from: humbert on November 30, 2022, 05:40 AMQuote from: Shadow.97 on November 29, 2022, 08:49 PMTry eventviewer and bluescreenview.
Eventviewer, look at critical/warnings right before it bluescreened.
With bluescreen view it should say which driver/device was responsible.
Thanks for your help but I'm not too clear what you mean. I'm assuming "bluescreen" is not the BSOD. Are these programs and/or features to help find the root of a problem?
Please walk me through it. I try Windows Update or the Windows Store. It finds the necessary files. The download begins and promptly crashes. I get error 0x80070001. Mind you this is all that happens. The OS continues to work as normal. It's just that I can't download from these 2 sources. If you were me, what exactly would you do next?
I've tried everything. SFC/scannow and all flavors of DISM report no issues. Even restoring 2 old backups didn't solve the problem. Other than this and the broken start menu, the OS runs great not including some compatibility issues with some programs.
My bad, I assumed the 0x80070001 was a traditional error code as the bluescreen was dumping. But I re-interpreted this now as the error windows update is giving you.
If it is giving such an error it may be resolved using the windows upgrade tool when a new version of windows is released.
That tool can force an update to a new system version, for example 21h2 to 22h2 and skip the normal update procedure. Then it might work.
Unfortunately that method will likely not work if there isnt a major version available.
I believe the tool to do the major updates is through the installer assistant https://www.microsoft.com/software-download/windows11
I assume you have no real reason other than security to rush an update?
If it is just randomly giving you errors when doing windows update, you may want to try:
safemode with networking
Disabling tweaks you've done using tools/tweaks/regedit etc.
Disconnect all optional devices excpet mouse or keyboard, and network. I've had a wireless receiver for my mouse cause windows update issues.
Default bios settings then reapply the same settings you had before. Especially if you have updated your bios manually without going to default settings after.
Update all drivers manually then try update.
Or Uninstall all drivers then try update. (careful so you dont delete input/usb drivers.. :) )
If it is network related..
Try phone hotspot and disconnect home internet from laptop
VPN
Changing DNS to public DNS
Unfortunately issues like this often requires random bandaids until it works, or just formatting.. Which sucks.
Had a similar issue on my main pc where all updates would fail for no reason and the upgrade tool had to be used.
Quote from: humbert on November 30, 2022, 05:40 AMQuote from: Shadow.97 on November 29, 2022, 08:49 PMTry eventviewer and bluescreenview.
Eventviewer, look at critical/warnings right before it bluescreened.
With bluescreen view it should say which driver/device was responsible.
Thanks for your help but I'm not too clear what you mean. I'm assuming "bluescreen" is not the BSOD. Are these programs and/or features to help find the root of a problem?
Please walk me through it. I try Windows Update or the Windows Store. It finds the necessary files. The download begins and promptly crashes. I get error 0x80070001. Mind you this is all that happens. The OS continues to work as normal. It's just that I can't download from these 2 sources. If you were me, what exactly would you do next?
I've tried everything. SFC/scannow and all flavors of DISM report no issues. Even restoring 2 old backups didn't solve the problem. Other than this and the broken start menu, the OS runs great not including some compatibility issues with some programs.
Not sure to what extent it will fix the WU issue. Win 11 clean install bit the dust pretty quick. I found a link wherein Win 11 insider preview had same issue try this (https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/windows-insider-program/install-error-0x80070001/m-p/3639923/highlight/true#M19224)
Thanks for your replies. Sadly I did all this and there is no solution. I think I'm going to wait for a major upgrade and see if maybe I could install it while keeping my files. I tried this with a recently downloaded copy and got the hateful "undoing changes" prompt.
There are other ways to get update files and install them manually. I attempted this with one and it worked. With respect to the few windows store app I'd like, there are ways to install them with Powershell. Let me investigate that a little further.
In the mean time I'll keep searching. Who knows, something might just work.
Quote from: humbert on December 01, 2022, 05:59 AMThanks for your replies. Sadly I did all this and there is no solution. I think I'm going to wait for a major upgrade and see if maybe I could install it while keeping my files. I tried this with a recently downloaded copy and got the hateful "undoing changes" prompt.
There are other ways to get update files and install them manually. I attempted this with one and it worked. With respect to the few windows store app I'd like, there are ways to install them with Powershell. Let me investigate that a little further.
In the mean time I'll keep searching. Who knows, something might just work.
Its unbelievable that made for Win 11 laptop isn't working properly. I don't think in-place upgrade/update will work since they usually work most of the time. Do you have Intel RAID NVMe configured? Will removing RAID driver in safe mode and rebooting it and mounting the ISO again and upgrade it again or even better would be a clean install w/o connecting to the internet and go ahead with local account and Pro install.
Quote from: Vasudev on December 01, 2022, 07:17 PMIts unbelievable that made for Win 11 laptop isn't working properly. I don't think in-place upgrade/update will work since they usually work most of the time. Do you have Intel RAID NVMe configured? Will removing RAID driver in safe mode and rebooting it and mounting the ISO again and upgrade it again or even better would be a clean install w/o connecting to the internet and go ahead with local account and Pro install.
The computer has a slot for a 2nd NVMe drive, but I'm only running 1. That's plenty for me. I did order an additional 16 GB of RAM for a total of 32 when it arrives.
There is no question that Windows Update -- just like the Start Menu -- is broken! There are many people on Google complaining of the same issue. It's clear that even Micro$haft doesn't know how to fix it. All they say is "try this, try that, maybe this will work..." and so on and on. I've tried all their suggestions, and
nothing works. THEY KNOW IT'S BROKEN and are just buying time with those silly suggestions. It's so bad that I manually downloaded and successfully installed an update, and still Windows Update doesn't know it's there and continues to try to download it! And, as might be expected, this issue takes the Windows Store down with it. The store depends on Windows Update to work properly.
Fortunately there are some workarounds. Updates can be downloaded from Micro$haft's catalog web site (and possibly other places) and installed manually. I don't use very many Windows Store app, and the ones I use are on Google Play. Simply install the Nox android emulator and use the apps that way. Even so, I do believe it's possible to install some Windows Store apps with Powershell.
Everything else is OK. I see no reason to reformat and start from scratch. Let's be patient, eventually they'll get these issues fixed.
Quote from: humbert on December 02, 2022, 05:34 AMQuote from: Vasudev on December 01, 2022, 07:17 PMIts unbelievable that made for Win 11 laptop isn't working properly. I don't think in-place upgrade/update will work since they usually work most of the time. Do you have Intel RAID NVMe configured? Will removing RAID driver in safe mode and rebooting it and mounting the ISO again and upgrade it again or even better would be a clean install w/o connecting to the internet and go ahead with local account and Pro install.
The computer has a slot for a 2nd NVMe drive, but I'm only running 1. That's plenty for me. I did order an additional 16 GB of RAM for a total of 32 when it arrives.
There is no question that Windows Update -- just like the Start Menu -- is broken! There are many people on Google complaining of the same issue. It's clear that even Micro$haft doesn't know how to fix it. All they say is "try this, try that, maybe this will work..." and so on and on. I've tried all their suggestions, and nothing works. THEY KNOW IT'S BROKEN and are just buying time with those silly suggestions. It's so bad that I manually downloaded and successfully installed an update, and still Windows Update doesn't know it's there and continues to try to download it! And, as might be expected, this issue takes the Windows Store down with it. The store depends on Windows Update to work properly.
Fortunately there are some workarounds. Updates can be downloaded from Micro$haft's catalog web site (and possibly other places) and installed manually. I don't use very many Windows Store app, and the ones I use are on Google Play. Simply install the Nox android emulator and use the apps that way. Even so, I do believe it's possible to install some Windows Store apps with Powershell.
Everything else is OK. I see no reason to reformat and start from scratch. Let's be patient, eventually they'll get these issues fixed.
Does make sense though, it might take few months to fix start menu and other bugs. It seems W12 might be arriving.
Quote from: Vasudev on December 03, 2022, 09:41 PMDoes make sense though, it might take few months to fix start menu and other bugs. It seems W12 might be arriving.
Really? Have they said anything about it or is this just speculation? Maybe they've decided to rewrite Win11.
Quote from: humbert on December 04, 2022, 05:53 AMQuote from: Vasudev on December 03, 2022, 09:41 PMDoes make sense though, it might take few months to fix start menu and other bugs. It seems W12 might be arriving.
Really? Have they said anything about it or is this just speculation? Maybe they've decided to rewrite Win11.
For now only speculations and rumors.
Quote from: Vasudev on December 04, 2022, 06:01 PMFor now only speculations and rumors.
With these guys you never know. As I recall when Win10 came out, they said this would be the last version. I wish they would have kept their word.
Quote from: humbert on December 05, 2022, 04:51 AMQuote from: Vasudev on December 04, 2022, 06:01 PMFor now only speculations and rumors.
With these guys you never know. As I recall when Win10 came out, they said this would be the last version. I wish they would have kept their word.
In a way it's part-true because Win 10 is the last Windows my existing PCs could run!
Quote from: Vasudev on December 06, 2022, 07:23 PMIn a way it's part-true because Win 10 is the last Windows my existing PCs could run!
Ahhh... you said "existing" PC's as in the present tense. At this moment that limitation is easy to disable. All you need to do is use Rufus. By the time they start closing that door, everyone will be running a Win11 compatible PC. Technology moves forward at light speed.
Quote from: humbert on December 08, 2022, 04:51 AMQuote from: Vasudev on December 06, 2022, 07:23 PMIn a way it's part-true because Win 10 is the last Windows my existing PCs could run!
Ahhh... you said "existing" PC's as in the present tense. At this moment that limitation is easy to disable. All you need to do is use Rufus. By the time they start closing that door, everyone will be running a Win11 compatible PC. Technology moves forward at light speed.
Already have that tweak enabled in my Win 11 ISOs but its slower and buggy from what I tried in earlier builds wherein reqmts were more relaxed. After seeing Win 11 PCs which has buggy start menu and disappearing menus and other issues Win 11 will take around 2-3 years just like Win 10 to get accepted by masses.
Quote from: Vasudev on December 08, 2022, 09:11 PMAlready have that tweak enabled in my Win 11 ISOs but its slower and buggy from what I tried in earlier builds wherein reqmts were more relaxed. After seeing Win 11 PCs which has buggy start menu and disappearing menus and other issues Win 11 will take around 2-3 years just like Win 10 to get accepted by masses.
I agree. The problem is that Micro$haft isn't fully supporting newer hardware on W10. That's the only reason I had to install Win11 on the new lappie. A quick example is Wifi 6E. On Win11 it works, on W10 it doesn't. Why? M$ purposely disabled it on W10 to force you to "upgrade" to W11. And so it is with some other hardware.
The buggy start menu is correct, mine is very buggy! Also, there is no question the problem with Windows Update is buggy. When you google it all you read is 5,000 different fixes that MIGHT work. There is never a concrete answer with a solution. Fortunately there's a workaround. I was able to manually download and install regular updates. I also found a way to manually download and install Windows Store apps. The majority of the Store apps I use were successfully installed. A small number of some others didn't install. I should mention there appears to be nothing wrong with the Store app itself. The problem is Windows Update, and that's what the store uses.
As you said, give it another year or so for them to get the kinks out. In the mean time we are all beta testers -- and (for some) paying for the privelege.
Quote from: humbert on December 10, 2022, 05:46 AMQuote from: Vasudev on December 08, 2022, 09:11 PMAlready have that tweak enabled in my Win 11 ISOs but its slower and buggy from what I tried in earlier builds wherein reqmts were more relaxed. After seeing Win 11 PCs which has buggy start menu and disappearing menus and other issues Win 11 will take around 2-3 years just like Win 10 to get accepted by masses.
I agree. The problem is that Micro$haft isn't fully supporting newer hardware on W10. That's the only reason I had to install Win11 on the new lappie. A quick example is Wifi 6E. On Win11 it works, on W10 it doesn't. Why? M$ purposely disabled it on W10 to force you to "upgrade" to W11. And so it is with some other hardware.
The buggy start menu is correct, mine is very buggy! Also, there is no question the problem with Windows Update is buggy. When you google it all you read is 5,000 different fixes that MIGHT work. There is never a concrete answer with a solution. Fortunately there's a workaround. I was able to manually download and install regular updates. I also found a way to manually download and install Windows Store apps. The majority of the Store apps I use were successfully installed. A small number of some others didn't install. I should mention there appears to be nothing wrong with the Store app itself. The problem is Windows Update, and that's what the store uses.
As you said, give it another year or so for them to get the kinks out. In the mean time we are all beta testers -- and (for some) paying for the privelege.
Wasn't aware of that Wifi 6e driver issue since 6E was added along with wpa3 via Win 10 20H2 and drivers were pending due to certification on most intel ax,realtek etc.
If you are able to install updates as cab or msu files along with store appx suggests win update is fine and apps aren't broken and functioning normally. In case you want auto update or package manager for windows that updates app/libs you can try winget package manager (https://github.com/microsoft/winget-cli/releases/tag/v1.3.2691)
You can try these cmds after installing msixbundle file. Open cmd prompt or windows terminal as admin or standard user
winget upgrade "PackageId" # replace "PackageId" with apps listed which has updates
winget search Git # search for packages or apps
Currently that's the only hope Win 11 will get better over time.
Quote from: Vasudev on December 10, 2022, 09:12 PMWasn't aware of that Wifi 6e driver issue since 6E was added along with wpa3 via Win 10 20H2 and drivers were pending due to certification on most intel ax,realtek etc.
I remember I bought a 6E WiFi card some 6 months ago. WiFi 6 worked but 6E was invisible. When I googled it said the problem was W10 and if I wanted 6E then I must upgrade to Win11. If the latest W10 version fixed this issue I'm not aware of it.
Quote from: Vasudev on December 10, 2022, 09:12 PMIf you are able to install updates as cab or msu files along with store appx suggests win update is fine and apps aren't broken and functioning normally. In case you want auto update or package manager for windows that updates app/libs you can try winget package manager (https://github.com/microsoft/winget-cli/releases/tag/v1.3.2691)
I can install msu files by double clicking. Haven't been able to install cabs - there is no rightclick-install for them and double-clicking just opens them like if they were zips. I was unaware there was a winget program, let alone how to use it. I downloaded the msixbundle file and I'll install it. I have no idea how to use it. Please post a little tutorial with some examples. Honestly I didn't understand the 2 lines you posted.
As usual, when it comes to these things, you're the man! :)
Been using windows 11 since the 6th now.
Going a bit nuts about not being able to rightclick the taskbar and going to task manager this way, and being unable to have a pinned folder to the taskbar.
Ended up tweaking the horrendous rightclick on desktop menu using regedit.
Start menu lagged when using a microsoft account. Created a local account after the nasty forced microsoft account on windows setup. When using local account it does not lag.
Other than that, I see a lot of improvements over Windows 10 in terms of UI. Unfortunately the settings panel is still a mess with good settings being extremely well hidden. Such as the classic sound panel. Some just takes getting used to.
My fave improvements are:
Start menu pins.
Icon "attention" orange blink being more gentle
General icons are prettier
Settings panel is better
Better task manager
I dont see a lot of negatives with W11 so far. I just hope they resolve these issues.
Quote from: Shadow.97 on December 14, 2022, 03:27 AMBeen using windows 11 since the 6th now.
Going a bit nuts about not being able to rightclick the taskbar and going to task manager this way, and being unable to have a pinned folder to the taskbar.
I reverted to the Windows 10 rightclick menu using the Group Policy Editor. After than just use Sordum's menu editor to get it the way you want.
Quote from: Shadow.97 on December 14, 2022, 03:27 AMEnded up tweaking the horrendous rightclick on desktop menu using regedit.
I prefer Regcool. :)
Quote from: Shadow.97 on December 14, 2022, 03:27 AMStart menu lagged when using a microsoft account. Created a local account after the nasty forced microsoft account on windows setup. When using local account it does not lag.
Do you have a preinstalled copy? In the event you do a fresh install, Rufus gives you the option of disabling the near-mandatory Micro$haft account as well as all their other stupid requirements. There are also tons of copies on the torrents pre-activated and with all their other garbage pre-disabled. I used one of those and it's working great. I refuse to use MSI's bloat-infested preinstalled copy.
Quote from: Shadow.97 on December 14, 2022, 03:27 AMI dont see a lot of negatives with W11 so far. I just hope they resolve these issues.
Are you having trouble with Windows Update and it's children, such as Windows Store downloads? If not, maybe you know something I don't. Every attempt I've made to fix it has failed.
Quote from: humbert on December 15, 2022, 05:47 AMQuote from: Shadow.97 on December 14, 2022, 03:27 AMI dont see a lot of negatives with W11 so far. I just hope they resolve these issues.
Are you having trouble with Windows Update and it's children, such as Windows Store downloads? If not, maybe you know something I don't. Every attempt I've made to fix it has failed.
I had an issue one day where during a competetive match my laptop decided to reboot for updates, even if I had told it to restart "TOMORROW" at 8 AM..
One issue as well when setting up the computer where some updates took ages to download for no apparent reason.
Nothing major. First issue will be a major one if it happens several times.
I continue to play around with Windows 11 and it's clear that their very famous Windows Subsystem for Linux is buggy. No surprise.
Installing Windows Subsystem for Linux is not as straightforward as we've been led to believe. It takes a bit of configuration. After installing it I downloaded and installed Debian. There is no GUI anywhere. It strictly a command line terminal. It IS possible to install Linux apps graphically. When I typed (for example) "sudo apt-get install gedit" it installed a full working copy of gedit just like you'd see it on any Linux distro. Gedit even has an entry in the start menu. Bleachbit was different. Despite have 2 start menu entries (as root and not), only the non-root version could be started by by the start menu. The other one you have to open the terminal and type "sudo bleachbit".
Despite all the work M$ and Canonical have been going, Ubuntu is very buggy. The download is about 961MB compared to Debian's 160MB (more to go wrong). It's garbage. WSL now says there is no Linux distro installed. Ubuntu does see WSL and works. However, it's just a terminal window in no way different from Debian. I found no way to make it into a GUI like the screenshots on their web site. This despite the fact that I did exactly what the docs say to do. It seems better just to save some disk space and go with Debian.
Then again, do you really NEED Linux apps on your Windows desktop? This is probably a little out of my league, but I've yet to see a Linux app that has a better Windows equivalent. At this point if you want Linux apps, you're better off just going with VirtualBox or VMWare. Linux distros run great under VM's.
Quote from: humbert on December 27, 2022, 05:18 AMI continue to play around with Windows 11 and it's clear that their very famous Windows Subsystem for Linux is buggy. No surprise.
Installing Windows Subsystem for Linux is not as straightforward as we've been led to believe. It takes a bit of configuration. After installing it I downloaded and installed Debian. There is no GUI anywhere. It strictly a command line terminal. It IS possible to install Linux apps graphically. When I typed (for example) "sudo apt-get install gedit" it installed a full working copy of gedit just like you'd see it on any Linux distro. Gedit even has an entry in the start menu. Bleachbit was different. Despite have 2 start menu entries (as root and not), only the non-root version could be started by by the start menu. The other one you have to open the terminal and type "sudo bleachbit".
Despite all the work M$ and Canonical have been going, Ubuntu is very buggy. The download is about 961MB compared to Debian's 160MB (more to go wrong). It's garbage. WSL now says there is no Linux distro installed. Ubuntu does see WSL and works. However, it's just a terminal window in no way different from Debian. I found no way to make it into a GUI like the screenshots on their web site. This despite the fact that I did exactly what the docs say to do. It seems better just to save some disk space and go with Debian.
Then again, do you really NEED Linux apps on your Windows desktop? This is probably a little out of my league, but I've yet to see a Linux app that has a better Windows equivalent. At this point if you want Linux apps, you're better off just going with VirtualBox or VMWare. Linux distros run great under VM's.
MS did say they will GTK and UI support, I have been using cli version under docker so UI isn't important. Ubuntu has more deps than debian base install due to snap and other apps/services. I prefer debian bullseye for daily usage and I'm using Linux Mint Debian Edition 5. Its on dual boot with windows 10.
I have uploaded winget tutorial on youtube.
If you want to see how I slipstream or make updated Win 10/11 media you can watch it. Forgive the audio as I was running into some issues while recording audio, so I have added subtitles for important scenes.
Also you watch how I test the ISO under virtualbox. Forgive the audio as I was running into some issues while recording audio, so I have added subtitles for important scenes.
In case you are interested in SW which I used for screen recording it was OBS Studio and edited the video using DaVinci Resolve 18 on Windows 10 with NVENC exports (H264/H265).
Quote from: humbert on December 27, 2022, 05:18 AMThen again, do you really NEED Linux apps on your Windows desktop? This is probably a little out of my league, but I've yet to see a Linux app that has a better Windows equivalent. At this point if you want Linux apps, you're better off just going with VirtualBox or VMWare. Linux distros run great under VM's.
Yes you do.
I had many times where flashing firmware etc or projects from github be a pain in the *** on windows or not possible at all due to dependencies, when it was possible through a handful of commands on WSL.
If you're looking for a linux box with gui you should likely not be using WSL and instead use a virtual machine with hyper-v.
What makes me confused is that WSL is not locked behind windows pro. It's really a pro tool I'd say.
I see WSL as the equivilant of WINE. It wont replace anything, just make life easier for that time you cant use a standalone box or where vm is inconvenient or too heavy for its small purpose.
Hey guys. Thanks for reponding. I have some questions.
Vasu: Your video is long I'm not sure what you're trying to do. I believe you said Winget was the equivalent of apt (or apt-get) in a Linux command line. Is the idea to install regular Windows apps or Linux apps? Please explain.
Shadow: As I understand it you said that if there are Linux app(s) someone needs to run, the way to go is to use a VM under Hyper-V. Do you mean VirtualBox, VMWare, or something else? I ask because VirtualBox will run regardless of whether or not Hyper-V or Virtual Machine Platform are enabled. By comparison Nox (my favorite Android VM emulator) will run ONLY if Hyper-V and Virtual Machine Platform are disabled. Go figure!
BTW do you run any Linux apps or games that require a full Linux environment? If so I assume you don't use a VM and dual boot, or something else.
Quote from: humbert on December 30, 2022, 05:31 AMHey guys. Thanks for reponding. I have some questions.
Vasu: Your video is long I'm not sure what you're trying to do. I believe you said Winget was the equivalent of apt (or apt-get) in a Linux command line. Is the idea to install regular Windows apps or Linux apps? Please explain.
Shadow: As I understand it you said that if there are Linux app(s) someone needs to run, the way to go is to use a VM under Hyper-V. Do you mean VirtualBox, VMWare, or something else? I ask because VirtualBox will run regardless of whether or not Hyper-V or Virtual Machine Platform are enabled. By comparison Nox (my favorite Android VM emulator) will run ONLY if Hyper-V and Virtual Machine Platform are disabled. Go figure!
BTW do you run any Linux apps or games that require a full Linux environment? If so I assume you don't use a VM and dual boot, or something else.
Currently I dont.
I do not dualboot. I dont find it worth the hassle.
If i need something that requires a genuine boot-disk booted linux distro I run it in a live environment of a USB thumb drive.
I don't really use virtual machines that much either.
My issue with using a specific distro is that the guides you easily find can often be specific for a distro. Even when you start learning what commands you need to replace something with, it becomes a pain. Using live usb boot you can use fedora, debian, or whatever the guide is made for.
Games are usually not developed primarily for linux, and even for a 50% performance hit I would still not use Linux for gaming as it is today. I dont feel like booting another OS just for a singular game. I'd rather not play the game at that point.
Same with apps. If an app is forced to be linux only, I use WSL. And if that doesn't work. I'll heavily reconsider using the app.
Last time I was forced to use linux was during flashing of a huawei 4g dongle, e3772 from HILINK to STICK mode. The software connected through COM ports through USB and had issues working under windows 10/7 but worked fine through a live usb through some of the steps, and then windows 10 could continue after a handful of steps.
I spent WAY too many hours tinkering with that stick than what it was worth.
Some crazy people like me do everything in their power to avoid double-NAT network.
I would love to go full linux again somewhat soon. I'm just not sure it will be worth my energy to swap OS at this point.
The familiarity is worth quite a bit. I used linux for an extensive period, but always ended up having too many issues with my primary games that I played, and didnt want to dual boot.
If it's the choice of not spending time with friends, or sticking with microsoft. The choice is spending time with friends.
I've very much considered dualbooting on my laptop for now. But until I get a second ssd for it. It wont happen. I don't want to have to redo all the windows tinkering and installations that take an entire day to do, just if I have to restore my windows.
I'm aware that there's backup utilities that I could use. I just don't have the energy.
Quote from: Shadow.97 on December 31, 2022, 02:45 AMI don't really use virtual machines that much either.
I use VirtualBox only for testing new apps and playing around with Linux. Mint is my favorite distro.
Quote from: Shadow.97 on December 31, 2022, 02:45 AMMy issue with using a specific distro is that the guides you easily find can often be specific for a distro. Even when you start learning what commands you need to replace something with, it becomes a pain. Using live usb boot you can use fedora, debian, or whatever the guide is made for.
So you use (for example) Ventoy on a single flashdrive with all kinds of distros on it so you can live-cd the one of your choice?
Quote from: Shadow.97 on December 31, 2022, 02:45 AMI would love to go full linux again somewhat soon. I'm just not sure it will be worth my energy to swap OS at this point.
So would I and many other people. The problem with Linux is lack of support. Everything is written for Windows. My favorite example is my mouse. Since Logitech does not support Linux, its buttons can't be configured according to the game I'm playing.
Quote from: humbert on December 30, 2022, 05:31 AMHey guys. Thanks for reponding. I have some questions.
Vasu: Your video is long I'm not sure what you're trying to do. I believe you said Winget was the equivalent of apt (or apt-get) in a Linux command line. Is the idea to install regular Windows apps or Linux apps? Please explain.
Shadow: As I understand it you said that if there are Linux app(s) someone needs to run, the way to go is to use a VM under Hyper-V. Do you mean VirtualBox, VMWare, or something else? I ask because VirtualBox will run regardless of whether or not Hyper-V or Virtual Machine Platform are enabled. By comparison Nox (my favorite Android VM emulator) will run ONLY if Hyper-V and Virtual Machine Platform are disabled. Go figure!
BTW do you run any Linux apps or games that require a full Linux environment? If so I assume you don't use a VM and dual boot, or something else.
@humbert Yes I did say it's quite similar to apt which itself is a package manager. The video became longer after I included installation of multiple apps followed by uninstall as well.
For winget there is no UI or frontend package/app available and for now only winget.run a web version is available.
As for Hyper-V and WSL things, HyperV is a type-1 or bare metal hypervisor which can run windows or any OS on top of it whereas VBox is installed inside in Host OS. WSL is a middle ground wherein you can run any OS/app within a container/sandbox with full performance. HyperV does have performance hit and works only on Pro/Education/Enterprise.
Just found about WSLg with GUI which allows you to install some GUI apps. https://github.com/microsoft/wslg
Edit: A minor error in hypervisor namng scheme, there is only 2 ie 1 and 2. I don't know why i used the 0 and 1 as types of hypervisors.
I'm totally lost here. Is Hyper-V a virtual machine program unto itself? Say you wanted to run a distro of Linux on top of Windows with Hyper-V. How would you do it?
With respect to WSL, based on what I'm seeing I'd have to agree with Shadow when it said it was like WINE in reverse, i.e., it runs basic Linux apps on top of Windows.
Regarding Winget, I downloaded your video. Let me take another look at it before I trouble you with more questions.
Like I said before, I like to use Nox to play around with Android apps. It's basically like Bluestacks with much less bloat. For it to run, virtualization must be enabled on the motherboard, but Hyper-V and all other Windows VM features must be disabled. I have no idea why.
Quote from: humbert on January 03, 2023, 05:19 AMI'm totally lost here. Is Hyper-V a virtual machine program unto itself? Say you wanted to run a distro of Linux on top of Windows with Hyper-V. How would you do it?
With respect to WSL, based on what I'm seeing I'd have to agree with Shadow when it said it was like WINE in reverse, i.e., it runs basic Linux apps on top of Windows.
Regarding Winget, I downloaded your video. Let me take another look at it before I trouble you with more questions.
Like I said before, I like to use Nox to play around with Android apps. It's basically like Bluestacks with much less bloat. For it to run, virtualization must be enabled on the motherboard, but Hyper-V and all other Windows VM features must be disabled. I have no idea why.
HyperV runs similar to vmware vSphere and you need to enable it in win features. For a windows user it feels easier to use. But I prefer VBox since it allows co-existence with HyperV and also as OS level hypervisor.
If your workflow is basically 70-80% android apps try ChromeOS or chromebook which is pretty slick and has faster updates.
Quote from: Vasudev on January 04, 2023, 08:32 PMHyperV runs similar to vmware vSphere and you need to enable it in win features. For a windows user it feels easier to use. But I prefer VBox since it allows co-existence with HyperV and also as OS level hypervisor.
Is there a link somewhere that explains how to use it? Suppose I wanted to run a distro of Linux under HyperV? How do you go about it? I'm not seeing a virtual machine program on Win10/11.
Quote from: Vasudev on January 04, 2023, 08:32 PMIf your workflow is basically 70-80% android apps try ChromeOS or chromebook which is pretty slick and has faster updates.
I use Nox mostly for testing Android apps. Most run but not all. I still have an old Chromebook. They stopped supporting it after 2 years. I saw no way to root it. This plus the fact that I have to put another device on my desk when I can just use the desktop or lappie.
Quote from: humbert on January 05, 2023, 05:02 AMQuote from: Vasudev on January 04, 2023, 08:32 PMHyperV runs similar to vmware vSphere and you need to enable it in win features. For a windows user it feels easier to use. But I prefer VBox since it allows co-existence with HyperV and also as OS level hypervisor.
Is there a link somewhere that explains how to use it? Suppose I wanted to run a distro of Linux under HyperV? How do you go about it? I'm not seeing a virtual machine program on Win10/11.
Quote from: Vasudev on January 04, 2023, 08:32 PMIf your workflow is basically 70-80% android apps try ChromeOS or chromebook which is pretty slick and has faster updates.
I use Nox mostly for testing Android apps. Most run but not all. I still have an old Chromebook. They stopped supporting it after 2 years. I saw no way to root it. This plus the fact that I have to put another device on my desk when I can just use the desktop or lappie.
You can follow this video by Chris Titus for using Hyper V. Works on Win 10,11 as well.
Quote from: Vasudev on January 06, 2023, 10:19 PMYou can follow this video by Chris Titus for using Hyper V. Works on Win 10,11 as well.
Thanks. I downloaded the video so I can look at it carefully later on.
Note that a new version of windows 7 is available here: https://www.nomaher.com/forum/index.php?topic=14153.msg37204#msg37204
It is the final version. Its size was reduced by 1 Gb.
Quote from: scarface on January 13, 2023, 11:22 PMNote that a new version of windows 7 is available here: https://www.nomaher.com/forum/index.php?topic=14153.msg37204#msg37204
It is the final version. Its size was reduced by 1 Gb.
Is anybody still using Win7? Just the other day M$ discontinued support for W7 and W8.1. Time to upgrade.
Quote from: humbert on January 14, 2023, 05:12 AMIs anybody still using Win7? Just the other day M$ discontinued support for W7 and W8.1. Time to upgrade.
Still me I guess :) I know Microsoft dropped support for win 7 a week ago, but I'm not in a hurry to switch to a newer version. Recently I had to do something on a computer with win 10 and it was such a pain! The OS seems so sluggish, it appeared to me like the OS is continuously doing something in the background and as a result there is a tiny delay to everything, even the simplest operations. I had an explorer window open and wanted to return to the parent folder, I hit "back" and it visibly hung for a while. When I was done I wanted to close the explorer window, and it froze for like a second before disappearing. I mean, what does the OS need to do that is so computationally intensive, just to close a window of explorer.exe? It was an unmodified installation, the same way it came from MS, so with some tweaks and hacks applied the performance might be better, but it didn't inspire much confidence in me.
Quote from: scarface on January 13, 2023, 11:22 PMNote that a new version of windows 7 is available here: https://www.nomaher.com/forum/index.php?topic=14153.msg37204#msg37204
It is the final version. Its size was reduced by 1 Gb.
Thank you once again, scarface. Maybe there aren't too terribly many people who still have use for windows 7, but I do and I appreciate that you kept uploading up-to-date builds all the way until the end of ESU. You're doing god's work :) I will keep this final iso stored away somewhere for a long time, it will surely come in handy.
Quote from: Guliver on January 17, 2023, 01:55 AMStill me I guess :) I know Microsoft dropped support for win 7 a week ago, but I'm not in a hurry to switch to a newer version. Recently I had to do something on a computer with win 10 and it was such a pain! The OS seems so sluggish, it appeared to me like the OS is continuously doing something in the background and as a result there is a tiny delay to everything, even the simplest operations. I had an explorer window open and wanted to return to the parent folder, I hit "back" and it visibly hung for a while. When I was done I wanted to close the explorer window, and it froze for like a second before disappearing. I mean, what does the OS need to do that is so computationally intensive, just to close a window of explorer.exe? It was an unmodified installation, the same way it came from MS, so with some tweaks and hacks applied the performance might be better, but it didn't inspire much confidence in me.
Hey Guliver! Glad you're back.
Let me ask: what hardware are you using? I ask the question because I've been using W10 for a while now and, in all honestly, I haven't had much of a problem. Even my old i7 which I bought in 2014 it ran like a bullet on W10. The sluggishness you describe could be typical of not enough RAM and/or there's all kinds of garbageware that loads when you boot up. This is typical of any time you buy a laptop or any system with a preloaded copy of Windows.
When I received my new laptop, the first thing I did was go into the BIOS and disable secure boot. Then I booted up from Sergei Strelec's ISO, wipe all partitions, reformat the drive and start with a fresh copy of W11. It works great except for the defective start menu and Windows Update not working properly. Fortunately there are workarounds.
I might add that when it comes to RAM, I believe it's gotten to the point where 16GB is not enough. I'd go with 32GB. In a few more years it'll be up to 64GB.
I don't dispute the fact that the end user has the right to pick his favorite OS. The problem is that sooner or later, an upgrade is inevitable. Just a few years ago there were users who said they'd never abandon XP. Where are they now?
Hope to see you more often. :)
Quote from: Guliver on January 17, 2023, 01:55 AMStill me I guess :) I know Microsoft dropped support for win 7 a week ago, but I'm not in a hurry to switch to a newer version. Recently I had to do something on a computer with win 10 and it was such a pain! The OS seems so sluggish, it appeared to me like the OS is continuously doing something in the background and as a result there is a tiny delay to everything, even the simplest operations. I had an explorer window open and wanted to return to the parent folder, I hit "back" and it visibly hung for a while. When I was done I wanted to close the explorer window, and it froze for like a second before disappearing. I mean, what does the OS need to do that is so computationally intensive, just to close a window of explorer.exe? It was an unmodified installation, the same way it came from MS, so with some tweaks and hacks applied the performance might be better, but it didn't inspire much confidence in me.
Hey Guliver! Glad you're back.
Let me ask: what hardware are you using? I ask the question because I've been using W10 for a while now and, in all honestly, I haven't had much of a problem. Even my old i7 which I bought in 2014 it ran like a bullet on W10. The sluggishness you describe could be typical of not enough RAM and/or there's all kinds of garbageware that loads when you boot up. This is typical of any time you buy a laptop or any system with a preloaded copy of Windows.
When I received my new laptop, the first thing I did was go into the BIOS and disable secure boot. Then I booted up from Sergei Strelec's ISO, wipe all partitions, reformat the drive and start with a fresh copy of W11. It works great except for the defective start menu and Windows Update not working properly. Fortunately there are workarounds.
I might add that when it comes to RAM, I believe it's gotten to the point where 16GB is now the bare bones minimum. I'd go with 32GB if I were you. In a few more years it'll be up to 64GB. Nothing less than 16.
I don't dispute the fact that the end user has the right to pick his favorite OS. The problem is that sooner or later, an upgrade is inevitable. Just a few years ago there were users who said they'd never abandon XP. Where are they now?
Hope to see you more often. :)
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@scarface
I have downloaded the W7 ISO I wonder how you managed to trim it down to 2.5GB. I couldn't push below 4GB as a minimum even after rebasing updates etc. Try nvcleanstall (https://www.techpowerup.com/download/techpowerup-nvcleanstall/). Its much better than nvslimmer. It will download only select components saving bandwidth and space.
EDIT: Nevermind install.wim was esd which brought down the size significantly.
@humbert I've moved to new Wifi 100Mbps up/down since LTE/5G has become spotty and rarely pushes beyond 1Mbps from 50-100Mbps.
Quote from: Vasudev on January 23, 2023, 07:21 PM@scarface
I have downloaded the W7 ISO I wonder how you managed to trim it down to 2.5GB. I couldn't push below 4GB as a minimum even after rebasing updates etc. Try nvcleanstall (https://www.techpowerup.com/download/techpowerup-nvcleanstall/). Its much better than nvslimmer. It will download only select components saving bandwidth and space.
Actually, I used harkaz's rebase to slim it down. Since there will be no more updates, I manually deleted a lot of stuff in the winsxs folder. I also deleted many old drivers (printers, TV tuner...). Actually, if I was doing an aggressive cleaning of the winsxs folder, it could be even smaller, but I essentially deleted "useless stuff" (drivers, wallpapers, fonts...). If you try to turn on windows features - ie tablet pc or other features - you may encounter problems though.
I know that the crew is growing restless at the lack of new versions concerning windows 10 and windows 11. Even if they are ready, in all likelihood, I'm going to wait till next month for an update. The embedded apps will be updated too (for example a new version of winrar was released today).
With a windows update my W11 laptop now forcibly goes to 60hz on wakeup and startup instead of 144hz. Can not figure out why. Checked both intel and nvidia settings, as well as windows. Tried removing them all from boot etc.
It happens a minute or two after the PC is on. Which makes it.. much more odd. I'm fairly certain it's relating to a windows update.
Quote from: Shadow.97 on February 09, 2023, 12:30 AMWith a windows update my W11 laptop now forcibly goes to 60hz on wakeup and startup instead of 144hz. Can not figure out why. Checked both intel and nvidia settings, as well as windows. Tried removing them all from boot etc.
It happens a minute or two after the PC is on. Which makes it.. much more odd. I'm fairly certain it's relating to a windows update.
I don't doubt it for a second. W11 is buggier than a tropical rain forest. My Windows Update and Windows Store still don't work. All I get is those stupid error messages that begin with 0x. Google that and all you get is solutions that don't work and have nothing to do with the problem.
BTW how did you notice the refresh rate came down? Do you have an app that tells you that? It takes a sharp eye to visually see the difference.
Quote from: humbert on February 11, 2023, 05:01 AMQuote from: Shadow.97 on February 09, 2023, 12:30 AMWith a windows update my W11 laptop now forcibly goes to 60hz on wakeup and startup instead of 144hz. Can not figure out why. Checked both intel and nvidia settings, as well as windows. Tried removing them all from boot etc.
It happens a minute or two after the PC is on. Which makes it.. much more odd. I'm fairly certain it's relating to a windows update.
I don't doubt it for a second. W11 is buggier than a tropical rain forest. My Windows Update and Windows Store still don't work. All I get is those stupid error messages that begin with 0x. Google that and all you get is solutions that don't work and have nothing to do with the problem.
BTW how did you notice the refresh rate came down? Do you have an app that tells you that? It takes a sharp eye to visually see the difference.
I can tell instantly with my eyes during movement of any object larger than a couple of pixels. Most noticable is, moving cursor or scrolling in browser. Or a game feeling choppy.
As of yet I have not yet found a screen with fast enough refreshrate for me not to notice. But there is a steep falloff after 144hz.
I find it very annoying to spend time doing more than basic tasks such as word processing with a screen below 90hz.
My current monitors are 2x 180hz 1440p. (LG 27'' UltraGear 27GP850 QHD Nano IPS 180 Hz)
There is a noticable difference between 144hz and 180hz. But I would strongly consider getting 4k instead of 180hz if I were to buy again. I just got the first one of these for a low price, and then the day after found an identical one used for €100 less than the already cheap monitor. Absolute pristine considiton.
Important to note is that not only does HZ matter, but also pixel response time. At work I had a monitor with a very old IPS panel that had ghosting on everything, and it was 60hz. It was an abomination to use for anything except Teams messages.
Would love to try an Oled panel with high refreshrate. Unfortunately burnin is still a major issue for such monitors. Leaving them on for a day is not a good idea.
Speaking of monitors. If you've not been blessed by the monitor-arm life, strongly consider getting a movable arm you attach at the end of your desk. unless you use a laptop. For me atleast, it's been one of the things that have made me the happiest in terms of computer upgrades in a long while. It looks so much more clean, more space, and I can have my keyboard and mouse further up without any issues. Best €35 spent in a long while.
Ordered an Ember Mug 2 295 ml white today. Hopefully it will be just as big of a life-quality upgrade. I'm tired of my coffee getting cold while I get caught up doing nothing. Got it for €30 cheaper than normal.
Just such a shame that the cost is an arm and a leg.
Quote from: Shadow.97 on February 12, 2023, 01:03 AMAs of yet I have not yet found a screen with fast enough refreshrate for me not to notice. But there is a steep falloff after 144hz.
I find it very annoying to spend time doing more than basic tasks such as word processing with a screen below 90hz.
My current monitors are 2x 180hz 1440p. (LG 27'' UltraGear 27GP850 QHD Nano IPS 180 Hz)
There is a noticable difference between 144hz and 180hz. But I would strongly consider getting 4k instead of 180hz if I were to buy again. I just got the first one of these for a low price, and then the day after found an identical one used for €100 less than the already cheap monitor. Absolute pristine considiton.
I'm using a Samsung UR590C 32" curved monitor. I just checked the specs and it maxes out at 3820x2160 @60Hz. Honestly it looks great both in general and with games. You have eyes like a hawk. I congratulate you.
Quote from: Shadow.97 on February 12, 2023, 01:03 AMSpeaking of monitors. If you've not been blessed by the monitor-arm life, strongly consider getting a movable arm you attach at the end of your desk. unless you use a laptop. For me atleast, it's been one of the things that have made me the happiest in terms of computer upgrades in a long while. It looks so much more clean, more space, and I can have my keyboard and mouse further up without any issues. Best €35 spent in a long while.
Are the monitors at eye level or higher? For me this would be an issue. I wear progressive glasses. In order to focus at close range I have to use the bottom part of the lens. If the monitor is at eye level or higher I have to point my head up and eyes down to see clearly.
Also: did you yourself install the monitor arms? Are they held to your desk with clamps? I have a very hard time performing installations or using tools in general.
Quote from: Shadow.97 on February 12, 2023, 01:03 AMOrdered an Ember Mug 2 295 ml white today. Hopefully it will be just as big of a life-quality upgrade. I'm tired of my coffee getting cold while I get caught up doing nothing. Got it for €30 cheaper than normal.
Just such a shame that the cost is an arm and a leg.
I just googled this. I was shocked to learn that a coffee mug is being sold for $129.95! Is this thing heated externally or what? If not, then how exactly did they get around the 2nd law of thermodynamics, i.e., energy (heat in this case) like to go from where it is to where it isn't?
Question to those of you, friends, who are using Windows 11 for at least 6 months.
What are main advantages of Win11, in comparison to Win10?
How much volume it really required on disk?
How stable is it (is it stable enough to use it as OS for Unity/Python programmer workstation)?
How it interacts with modern hardware (esp. VR helmets)?
Quote from: Daniil on February 25, 2023, 10:58 AMQuestion to those of you, friends, who are using Windows 11 for at least 6 months.
What are main advantages of Win11, in comparison to Win10?
Basically none, at least for me (I don't use the new taskbar since I installed Open shell menu to get a classic taskbar).
Quote from: Daniil on February 25, 2023, 10:58 AMHow much volume it really required on disk?
pretty much the same as windows 10
Quote from: Daniil on February 25, 2023, 10:58 AMHow stable is it (is it stable enough to use it as OS for Unity/Python programmer workstation)?
How it interacts with modern hardware (esp. VR helmets)?
It's stable, but not more than windows 10 (or even windows 7).
There is a real advantage for x86-32 bit Operating systems over 16-bit and 16/32-bit hybrid versions (Windows ME and earlier), therefore we can consider that Windows XP, a truly 32 bit OS, was a major step from Windows 98. It was marketed for higher reliability business use, and was unencumbered by any Microsoft DOS patrimony.
But the newer OSes are not major steps. In fact, 64 bits OSes are really no better than x86 Oses. If X86-64 runs instructions with 64 bit operands, which x86-32 simply cannot do, there's a real qualitative difference. This allows larger individual values to be processed, and, probably the major benefit of 64 bit systems, much larger data sets without complex address space management. Technically an X86-64 can run much larger programs, but in practice nobody writes single programs big enough for this to matter.
You can read more here: https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/windows-11-vs-windows-10/
Conclusion: I would advise to stick with windows 10.
Windows 11 is stable but very buggy. In my case the start menu doesn't work. Windows Updates doesn't work either. That also takes down the Windows Store because its apps are installed through Windows updates. Store apps and updates must installed manually, and there are times that doesn't work. Stick with 10 for as long as possible.
I should mention the only reason I'm using W11 on my new laptop is precisely because it's too new. M$ is not supporting newer hardware on W10, you must forcibly use W11. A perfect example is Wifi-6E. It works very well. It's fast will very little latency. Only W11 supports it, with W10 all you get it Wifi6. My desktop is still on W10 and I'm not upgrading until they fix all those bugs.
Thank you, guys. Before getting out I'm planning change my workstation to laptop, that's why I'm asking. And because I'm Unity developer, I'm forcibly linked to Windows. In other case I'd prefer sort of Linux now.
Quote from: Daniil on February 28, 2023, 10:34 AMThank you, guys. Before getting out I'm planning change my workstation to laptop, that's why I'm asking. And because I'm Unity developer, I'm forcibly linked to Windows. In other case I'd prefer sort of Linux now.
I agree! If it were up to me all I'd use is Linux (Mint is my favorite distro). The problem is lack of support. Everything is written for Windows, so you're stuck. My favorite example is my Logitech gamers mouse. Logitech support ONLY Windows, meaning that in Linux I have no way to configure the buttons to my liking or create different profiles for different games. An good gamers mouse has the same functionality as a simple cheap 3-button mouse. Similarly, a while back a bought an awesome Brother color laser printer and scanner. If you have Windows or a Mac, you're OK. With Linux, forget it! No support.
And of course, stay away from W11 until they iron out all the bugs.
Will be uploading 22H2 versions of Windows 10 and 11 in few days hours.
Edit:I actually forgot I have a faster connection.
W10 ESD (https://mega.nz/file/dJQnHLAK#3OqnNo-faSoUOXzWujKFBZg4TIo9vMpkhTNuIJmVKmM)
W10 ESD hash SHA256 (https://mega.nz/file/9AIhFb5Y#M5PlJrkx5ovza1pjQTaZHQWCQdcMlSvdTnBBlF2-D2c)
W11 ESD (https://mega.nz/file/YdQSWKxR#LWRcGL2x24GWgWCparcNtcWitlRSMlE9cBx0jpZnElY)
W11 ESD hash SHA256 (https://mega.nz/file/4Y4w3CaR#IEdBSJcoj9mvdtELZvKnMwqDjS-15lk-yg8TXUzg8vM)
Quote from: Vasudev on March 12, 2023, 08:35 PMWill be uploading 22H2 versions of Windows 10 and 11 in few days hours.
Edit:I actually forgot I have a faster connection.
I guess those are the original versions?
Quote from: scarface on March 14, 2023, 08:12 PMQuote from: Vasudev on March 12, 2023, 08:35 PMWill be uploading 22H2 versions of Windows 10 and 11 in few days hours.
Edit:I actually forgot I have a faster connection.
I guess those are the original versions?
My usual ISO after removing unwanted Appx and then converted to ESD.
Note that new versions of windows 10 & 11 with the latest updates as well as new Nvidia drivers are available on the forum here:
https://www.nomaher.com/forum/index.php?topic=14153.msg37204#msg37204
Quote from: scarface on March 18, 2023, 09:53 PMNote that new versions of windows 10 & 11 with the latest updates as well as new Nvidia drivers are available on the forum here:
If you mount those ISO's on a virtual disk, do they come with a setup.exe program so you can overwrite and upgrade an existing installation? Or must you necessarily boot from a flashdrive?
Quote from: humbert on March 20, 2023, 04:52 AMQuote from: scarface on March 18, 2023, 09:53 PMNote that new versions of windows 10 & 11 with the latest updates as well as new Nvidia drivers are available on the forum here:
If you mount those ISO's on a virtual disk, do they come with a setup.exe program so you can overwrite and upgrade an existing installation? Or must you necessarily boot from a flashdrive?
Same thing as usual. You mount and run setup.exe should do the migration to 22H2 version of Win11.
Scarface: I tried installing your copy of Windows 11 over mine and it said "Setup failed to validate the product key". My W11 copy is pre-activated and was downloaded from a torrent site. What do you think?
Vasudev: Many other copies of W10 and W11 don't have a setup.exe file when you mount them. Do you suppose booting from Ventoy and attempting an installation over the existing version would work?
Quote from: humbert on March 26, 2023, 05:24 AMScarface: I tried installing your copy of Windows 11 over mine and it said "Setup failed to validate the product key". My W11 copy is pre-activated and was downloaded from a torrent site. What do you think?
I've had no problem trying to install it over my current version. So I won't be able to tell you where this error message comes from.
Instead of attempting an installation over the existing version (which is useless since it seem you visibly have windows 11 already, I recommend formatting in order to achieve a clean installation.
Quote from: scarface on March 27, 2023, 04:30 AMI've had no problem trying to install it over my current version. So I won't be able to tell you where this error message comes from.
Instead of attempting an installation over the existing version (which is useless since it seem you visibly have windows 11 already, I recommend formatting in order to achieve a clean installation.
Are your copies of Win10 and Win11 pre-activated or unactivated ISO's from Micro$haft? For Win10 I used a strange activator I found on the torrents, and Win11 was pre-activated.
The problem with a clean install is having to spend days reinstalling and reconfiguring everything. Don't you hate that?
Quote from: humbert on March 27, 2023, 06:39 AMAre your copies of Win10 and Win11 pre-activated or unactivated ISO's from Micro$haft? For Win10 I used a strange activator I found on the torrents, and Win11 was pre-activated.
The problem with a clean install is having to spend days reinstalling and reconfiguring everything. Don't you hate that?
Instead of installing it, you can test it with Vwmare too. Of course, I don't install a clean copy unless I need to do it (and I use switchless installers to avoid the boring part of the installation of windows).
Quote from: scarface on April 02, 2023, 08:44 PMInstead of installing it, you can test it with Vwmare too. Of course, I don't install a clean copy unless I need to do it (and I use switchless installers to avoid the boring part of the installation of windows).
There is no question the ISO's will work under any VM. What I'm trying to do is install it over the current versions of Windows 10 and 11. It's then when I get the error message.
Note that new versions of windows 10 & 11 will be available next week. I'm planning to add new drivers to the windows 11 iso and customize a bit more.
I just treated myself to a nice 32" Samsung Odyssey Neo monitor. My video card is an Nvidia RTX-3060. Despite the fact that both support HDR, you can't enable Windows HDR because it looks all washed out. I checked this out and if you want to to to full auto-HDR, the only choice is to bite the bullet and upgrade to Windows 11. I was playing around with the new Diablo IV beta release. The game fully supports HDR, but it appears I can't take full advantage of that without Win11.
What would be the best way to do that WITHOUT having to format a do a clean install? Is it possible to simply install 11 over 10?
Vasudev: you're the expert on these matters. What do you suggest?
Quote from: humbert on April 06, 2023, 06:29 AMWhat would be the best way to do that WITHOUT having to format a do a clean install? Is it possible to simply install 11 over 10?
I upgraded my system from 10 to 11 without issues.
Installed a tpm module and then just let windows update thingy do its thingy. :)
As always do backup.
When it comes to HDR, I realised that I prefer SDR in most cases. I dont want my screens overly bright. There isn't much HDR content anyway.
When it goes between hdr/non hdr I've also noticed the screen likes "turning off and on" again
It also posed as a major issue for me when using my HTC vive(vr) and using steam to view the desktop. It made everything look washed out but look fine on the real monitor.
Using:
lg 27 inch ultragear 27gp850 qhd nano ips 180hz
I'm already considering a new monitor, will probably aim for 27 inch oled with high refreshrate and 4k.
I'm also in the market for a TV. Never really used or owned one, so it feels.. weird. Mostly as I have bad far-sight and dont use glasses indoors.
Ps. Got a new job, starting 17th as a network technician for an ISP.
Note that the next windows 11 release on the forum will get a windows 10 "ribbon UI" in the window folders (For this explorer was patched, and it's more convenient). Due to the similarities between windows 10 and 11 and the improvements made in this version, there is no reason to upload new versions of windows 10, it will be discontinued.
(https://i.ibb.co/qdKBrCJ/win11.png)
Following Shadow's advice I managed to get an ISO of Win11 22H2 and, sure enough, it installed flawlessly. Just like on the laptop, Windows Update is broken. Let me see if I can get these pending update numbers and install them manually. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
The start menu is broken too. You right-click on and item and nothing appears. If it worked you'd see options to pin it or put it on the taskbar. Nothing! I might even do something I swore I'd never do: install Scarface's Classic Shell. I don't know if it works on Win11 but let me give it a look.
Shadow: You who are the expert on this. You are correct in that turning on Windows HDR makes no sense at all. I read that this is what happens when you impose an HDR setting and the content of the screen is SDR. Question: do you pay any games that actually use HDR including and even HDR setting in their menu? If the answer is yes, should you turn on Windows HDR to play the game and turn it off later? I was playing around with the pre-release version of Diablo IV and it has this setting. I can't play it any more until the official release on 06/06/2023. Just wondering if it's a good idea to turn HDR on before playing it.
Another interesting question: do any of you guys use Microsoft Edge or have it installed as a secondary browser? I'm not too much a fan of their widgets, but they will not open unless Edge is installed. Other links involving Micro$haft won't open either. I asking if you think it's a good idea to install it as secondary, using Firefox as primary.
Quote from: humbert on April 08, 2023, 06:36 AMFollowing Shadow's advice I managed to get an ISO of Win11 22H2 and, sure enough, it installed flawlessly. Just like on the laptop, Windows Update is broken. Let me see if I can get these pending update numbers and install them manually. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
The start menu is broken too. You right-click on and item and nothing appears. If it worked you'd see options to pin it or put it on the taskbar. Nothing! I might even do something I swore I'd never do: install Scarface's Classic Shell. I don't know if it works on Win11 but let me give it a look.
Shadow: You who are the expert on this. You are correct in that turning on Windows HDR makes no sense at all. I read that this is what happens when you impose an HDR setting and the content of the screen is SDR. Question: do you pay any games that actually use HDR including and even HDR setting in their menu? If the answer is yes, should you turn on Windows HDR to play the game and turn it off later? I was playing around with the pre-release version of Diablo IV and it has this setting. I can't play it any more until the official release on 06/06/2023. Just wondering if it's a good idea to turn HDR on before playing it.
Another interesting question: do any of you guys use Microsoft Edge or have it installed as a secondary browser? I'm not too much a fan of their widgets, but they will not open unless Edge is installed. Other links involving Micro$haft won't open either. I asking if you think it's a good idea to install it as secondary, using Firefox as primary.
I don't know if any of the games I play do use HDR. I find that the only times HDR seems to be relevant is when people talk about how bright they want to make their monitors. But I don't really enjoy that aspect, especially in games. I like it when black isnt pitch black, and when white isnt piercing my eyes :D
I personally only use Firefox. Only time I do not use it is when a certain software forces me to use chrome based browser, at that point I just use Edge. Because I see no advantage of chrome over Edge.
One example would be Bing-GPT, the bing chat. It's quite useful at times, but they force you to use edge. Oddly enough it works perfectly fine by changing user agent or firefox on the phone.
Makes me frown.
My friend wants me to join in on Diablo IV, but I don't think I'll have the energy to pick such a game up. I hold a big grudge against blizzard for killing Overwatch 1and replacing it with an inferior(to me) version. As well as messing up so massively on Warcraft 3 reforged. Might end up getting D4 on sale. But for now, I just don't want to put money in their wallets.
Quote from: Shadow.97 on April 09, 2023, 03:30 PMI don't know if any of the games I play do use HDR. I find that the only times HDR seems to be relevant is when people talk about how bright they want to make their monitors. But I don't really enjoy that aspect, especially in games. I like it when black isnt pitch black, and when white isnt piercing my eyes :D
Let me clarify: you refer only to games that don't
specifically support HDR. By this I mean in the settings there no button or items that specifically allows you to select HDR. Diablo IV has that. In fact with my old monitor it would not allow me to select it because the monitor didn't support HDR and only had a refresh rate of 60Hz. My new one bumps it up to 165Hz on display port and 120Hz on HDMI, and specifically supports HDR. I use display port.
Quote from: Shadow.97 on April 09, 2023, 03:30 PMI personally only use Firefox. Only time I do not use it is when a certain software forces me to use chrome based browser, at that point I just use Edge. Because I see no advantage of chrome over Edge.
But with Edge installed Firefox can still remain as the default browser, right? Currently I have the Iron browser installed as secondary. This is because there are sites out there that prefer or work better with Chromium. Based on what you're telling me it's not a bad idea to install Edge as secondary and get rid of Iron.
Do you need a Microsoft account to use Edge or will it fully function without one?
Quote from: Shadow.97 on April 09, 2023, 03:30 PMOne example would be Bing-GPT, the bing chat. It's quite useful at times, but they force you to use edge. Oddly enough it works perfectly fine by changing user agent or firefox on the phone.
Bing GPT works with Android Firefox? Interesting. May I ask: what exactly do you mean by a user agent?
Quote from: Shadow.97 on April 09, 2023, 03:30 PMMy friend wants me to join in on Diablo IV, but I don't think I'll have the energy to pick such a game up. I hold a big grudge against blizzard for killing Overwatch 1and replacing it with an inferior(to me) version. As well as messing up so massively on Warcraft 3 reforged. Might end up getting D4 on sale. But for now, I just don't want to put money in their wallets.
Fully understandable. Keep in mind you'd only be paying for Diablo IV assuming you liked it. I've been playing Diablo since it first came out. It's the only game where I overcame the learning curve. Every company has good games and bad games. Just get the good ones.
Quote from: humbert on April 10, 2023, 04:53 AMLet me clarify: you refer only to games that don't specifically support HDR.
I've played some game that had a HDR toggle, I didnt find it worth my monitor turning off then on again when launching the game, then turning the screen off and on again when tabbing out. Not sure if it's a bug or feature. But sure is annoying.
Quote from: humbert on April 10, 2023, 04:53 AMDo you need a Microsoft account to use Edge or will it fully function without one?
Windows 11 is MUCH tighter integrated with microsoft account. Edge was preinstalled with 10, as with 11.
Unless you specifically uninstall edge it will still be there, and still function.
They don't give an easy way to uninstall it. Unsure about account requirement, i was automatically signed in to edge.
Quote from: humbert on April 10, 2023, 04:53 AMBing GPT works with Android Firefox? Interesting. May I ask: what exactly do you mean by a user agent?
A useragent is the string of text the browser sends to the website to inform what browser you are running.
For example. A phone running android firefox might have:
Mozilla/5.0 (Android 4.4; Mobile; rv:41.0) Gecko/41.0 Firefox/41.0
A mac might have:
Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_15_7) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/104.0.5112.79 Safari/537.36
It informs what versions of things you run, so the site can adapt content, block, or collect data.
Plugins exist that allow you to easily change user agents if a site blocks a specific browser, or introduce faulty code just for one browser type.
Quote from: humbert on April 03, 2023, 05:33 AMQuote from: scarface on April 02, 2023, 08:44 PMInstead of installing it, you can test it with Vwmare too. Of course, I don't install a clean copy unless I need to do it (and I use switchless installers to avoid the boring part of the installation of windows).
There is no question the ISO's will work under any VM. What I'm trying to do is install it over the current versions of Windows 10 and 11. It's then when I get the error message.
If its license key issue for Windows/Office you can use abbodi's script https://github.com/abbodi1406/KMS_VL_ALL_AIO/releases (https://github.com/abbodi1406/KMS_VL_ALL_AIO/releases)
It auto rearms using task scheduler.
I might try out W11 ISO I made on real PC soon which has all reqmts met by Win 11.
Quote from: Shadow.97 on April 11, 2023, 09:22 PMI've played some game that had a HDR toggle, I didnt find it worth my monitor turning off then on again when launching the game, then turning the screen off and on again when tabbing out. Not sure if it's a bug or feature. But sure is annoying.
It's all trail and error. Once this game comes out I'll test all settings and see what happens.
Quote from: Shadow.97 on April 11, 2023, 09:22 PMWindows 11 is MUCH tighter integrated with microsoft account. Edge was preinstalled with 10, as with 11.
Unless you specifically uninstall edge it will still be there, and still function.
They don't give an easy way to uninstall it. Unsure about account requirement, i was automatically signed in to edge.
So you use a Microsoft account on your system? Isn't it better off just to use a local account? It's certainly not impossible unless you're using Windows Home. I use Pro.
Vasudev: I usually install preactivated copies of Windows. They're readily available on the torrents. I've never had a problem and I've never needed to rearm. We're talking years after installation.
Playing with Win11 on a machine that doesn't "meet the requirements" is an easy thing to do. This can be disabled using Rufus. The copies found on the torrents all have those requirements pre-disabled. Give it a test and tell us what you think.
Note that a new version of windows 11 is available here: https://www.nomaher.com/forum/index.php?topic=14153.msg37204#msg37204
This version contains the latest updates. It was patched so it features a new explorer UI.
This is an excellent edition, for those who are able to install it.
Quote from: humbert on April 12, 2023, 06:15 AMPlaying with Win11 on a machine that doesn't "meet the requirements" is an easy thing to do. This can be disabled using Rufus. The copies found on the torrents all have those requirements pre-disabled. Give it a test and tell us what you think.
I go to an extreme extent to not format my system :) It's on it's 5th year now unformatted.
I do still use a localaccount but my laptop forcibly tied itself to the laptop, even when using a local account and removing the online-account it still has the traces. I don't really get enjoyment from reinstalling OS'es it's quite a pain in the butt
Quote from: Shadow.97 on April 12, 2023, 11:24 PMI go to an extreme extent to not format my system :) It's on it's 5th year now unformatted.
I do still use a localaccount but my laptop forcibly tied itself to the laptop, even when using a local account and removing the online-account it still has the traces. I don't really get enjoyment from reinstalling OS'es it's quite a pain in the butt
I very strongly agree! I absolutely HATE losing an OS and having to start from scratch. It's happened to me quite a few times. And not just on computers but on Android phones too.
As I see it, all laptops come with a garbage-infested OS that, just like a clean install, has to be cleaned up and configured from scratch. And of course after that comes installing your apps and configuring them to your liking. I refuse to put up with this. When I received my new laptop the first thing I did was boot into the BIOS and disable secure boot. Then I booted from flashdrive into Sergei Strelec's ISO, wiped all partitions and then united the remaining space into one large partition. Then I booted from another flashdrive and installed a pre-activated torrent copy Windows Pro from scratch. It's still running fine.
@humbert I tried my Win 11 ISO on new laptop and installs are very quick during post setup tasks were not running which is quite odd and USB itself was ejected. Could be Win 11 issue, anyway there were new April Updates. With virtualization enabled the new PC Thnkpad L14 my sister uses runs flawlessly and Win 11 is not having much issue. In my old PCs Win11 struggles to load with Virtualization enabled and runs like Pentium III.
Quote from: Vasudev on April 19, 2023, 10:20 PM@humbert I tried my Win 11 ISO on new laptop and installs are very quick during post setup tasks were not running which is quite odd and USB itself was ejected. Could be Win 11 issue, anyway there were new April Updates. With virtualization enabled the new PC Thnkpad L14 my sister uses runs flawlessly and Win 11 is not having much issue. In my old PCs Win11 struggles to load with Virtualization enabled and runs like Pentium III.
By "virtualization" do you mean as the BIOS, like when running VirtualBox or VMware?
There is no question that Win11 is buggy. My start menu doesn't allow me to pin apps or put them on the taskbar. Every time I look for something I have to click the taskbar icon and search. Windows Update is also broken. Not only does it NOT update with very few exceptions, but when you download an update and install it manually, it doesn't know the update has been installed and keeps trying unsuccessfully to install it. This causes the Windows Store not to be able to install anything. If you want a store app, you have to try to install it manually. Not all will install. This exists on both my desktop and my laptop.
If any of you guys who run W11 don't have these issues, I'm thinking it's either a configuration problem or some app that's getting in the way.
Quote from: humbert on April 20, 2023, 06:41 AMQuote from: Vasudev on April 19, 2023, 10:20 PM@humbert I tried my Win 11 ISO on new laptop and installs are very quick during post setup tasks were not running which is quite odd and USB itself was ejected. Could be Win 11 issue, anyway there were new April Updates. With virtualization enabled the new PC Thnkpad L14 my sister uses runs flawlessly and Win 11 is not having much issue. In my old PCs Win11 struggles to load with Virtualization enabled and runs like Pentium III.
By "virtualization" do you mean as the BIOS, like when running VirtualBox or VMware?
There is no question that Win11 is buggy. My start menu doesn't allow me to pin apps or put them on the taskbar. Every time I look for something I have to click the taskbar icon and search. Windows Update is also broken. Not only does it NOT update with very few exceptions, but when you download an update and install it manually, it doesn't know the update has been installed and keeps trying unsuccessfully to install it. This causes the Windows Store not to be able to install anything. If you want a store app, you have to try to install it manually. Not all will install. This exists on both my desktop and my laptop.
If any of you guys who run W11 don't have these issues, I'm thinking it's either a configuration problem or some app that's getting in the way.
Its called VBS or something as running everything inside a secure container and everything is sandboxed and downside is more CPU usage. https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/disable-vbs-windows-11 (https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/disable-vbs-windows-11)
L14 has total Memory encryption enabled as well. I didn't notice any perf drops at all since its has dedicated hardware in Pro Ryzen CPU and from lenovo.
On CB R23 multi score was around 10k with 3GHz all core boost and around 30w peak usage in performance mode. In balanced it scored around 9k with 2.65GHz and 15w TDP.
Quote from: Vasudev on April 22, 2023, 10:51 PMIts called VBS or something as running everything inside a secure container and everything is sandboxed and downside is more CPU usage. https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/disable-vbs-windows-11 (https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/disable-vbs-windows-11)
L14 has total Memory encryption enabled as well. I didn't notice any perf drops at all since its has dedicated hardware in Pro Ryzen CPU and from lenovo.
On CB R23 multi score was around 10k with 3GHz all core boost and around 30w peak usage in performance mode. In balanced it scored around 9k with 2.65GHz and 15w TDP.
Mine was disabled. Still, there are other tweaks on there I'm going to try. I've had FAR many more problem with all these security features that from whatever they're trying to protect me from.
Quote from: humbert on April 23, 2023, 05:13 AMQuote from: Vasudev on April 22, 2023, 10:51 PMIts called VBS or something as running everything inside a secure container and everything is sandboxed and downside is more CPU usage. https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/disable-vbs-windows-11 (https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/disable-vbs-windows-11)
L14 has total Memory encryption enabled as well. I didn't notice any perf drops at all since its has dedicated hardware in Pro Ryzen CPU and from lenovo.
On CB R23 multi score was around 10k with 3GHz all core boost and around 30w peak usage in performance mode. In balanced it scored around 9k with 2.65GHz and 15w TDP.
Mine was disabled. Still, there are other tweaks on there I'm going to try. I've had FAR many more problem with all these security features that from whatever they're trying to protect me from.
For some reason Lenovo power manager,intelligent cooling driver is causing thermal issues and have been disabled from policy editor
@humbert @scarface New version of Win 11 Home and Pro ISO is up.
Win 11 ISO (https://mega.nz/file/ZJBj2KQL#mmfs6LQ5ZeesV6fByH2axhA3gMQN0Mg0s-AMYNhF2-o)
Win 11 ISO hash SHA256 (https://mega.nz/file/YEBWWR7C#CgWk1Jeswuwb6opkEpBIp-KW81RnLxiMoowj4wldZk4)
Quote from: Vasudev on May 01, 2023, 10:38 PM@humbert @scarface New version of Win 11 Home and Pro ISO is up.
Win 11 ISO (https://mega.nz/file/ZJBj2KQL#mmfs6LQ5ZeesV6fByH2axhA3gMQN0Mg0s-AMYNhF2-o)
Win 11 ISO hash SHA256 (https://mega.nz/file/YEBWWR7C#CgWk1Jeswuwb6opkEpBIp-KW81RnLxiMoowj4wldZk4)
Is this Home or Pro? The iso is about 4GB in size. Too big for both Home and Pro.
Quote from: humbert on May 03, 2023, 05:46 AMQuote from: Vasudev on May 01, 2023, 10:38 PM@humbert @scarface New version of Win 11 Home and Pro ISO is up.
Win 11 ISO (https://mega.nz/file/ZJBj2KQL#mmfs6LQ5ZeesV6fByH2axhA3gMQN0Mg0s-AMYNhF2-o)
Win 11 ISO hash SHA256 (https://mega.nz/file/YEBWWR7C#CgWk1Jeswuwb6opkEpBIp-KW81RnLxiMoowj4wldZk4)
Is this Home or Pro? The iso is about 4GB in size. Too big for both Home and Pro.
It has both Home and Pro. Stock ISO for W11 22H2 Moment 2 was 5.1GB. After removal of unneeded editions/apps and updates it was 4.6GB. It has updated boot.wim and winre.wim along with new dynamic updates which improve OS install experience.
Quote from: Vasudev on May 03, 2023, 08:18 PMIt has both Home and Pro. Stock ISO for W11 22H2 Moment 2 was 5.1GB. After removal of unneeded editions/apps and updates it was 4.6GB. It has updated boot.wim and winre.wim along with new dynamic updates which improve OS install experience.
I forgot to ask: is it preactivated?
Quote from: Vasudev on May 01, 2023, 10:38 PM@humbert @scarface New version of Win 11 Home and Pro ISO is up.
Thanks but I think I'm going to wait for the release of windows 11 23h2 for the moment.
Quote from: humbert on May 04, 2023, 05:15 AMQuote from: Vasudev on May 03, 2023, 08:18 PMIt has both Home and Pro. Stock ISO for W11 22H2 Moment 2 was 5.1GB. After removal of unneeded editions/apps and updates it was 4.6GB. It has updated boot.wim and winre.wim along with new dynamic updates which improve OS install experience.
I forgot to ask: is it preactivated?
No. My ISOs were never preactivated.
Quote from: Vasudev on May 21, 2023, 09:10 PMNo. My ISOs were never preactivated.
What activator do you use? There are tons of them out there. Most work. The only problem is they leave garbageware behind.
Note that new Nvidia drivers are available here: https://www.nomaher.com/forum/index.php?topic=14153.msg37204#msg37204
Note that a new version of windows 7 is available here: https://www.nomaher.com/forum/index.php?topic=14153.msg37204#msg37204
It was updated with newer software, such as newer versions of Winrar, Notepad++, Windows desktop Runtime... The iso is slightly smaller too.
I advise those who are still using it to download it (Windows 7 will probably be removed later this year).
(https://i.ibb.co/h2Yz7VH/win7.jpg)
Quote from: humbert on May 22, 2023, 04:33 AMQuote from: Vasudev on May 21, 2023, 09:10 PMNo. My ISOs were never preactivated.
What activator do you use? There are tons of them out there. Most work. The only problem is they leave garbageware behind.
I don't use any. I bought cheap keys from ebay and cdkeyoffers. Many youtubers(MLID,In-Depth tech review etc..) have coupon code for office and windows under 30$ with coupons. https://www.cdkeyoffer.com/microsoft-windows-10-pro-oem-cd-key-global.html?urd=win10 (https://www.cdkeyoffer.com/microsoft-windows-10-pro-oem-cd-key-global.html?urd=win10) You can use 25% using coupon code:brokensilicon
Yeah most activators installs a task that rearms the trial period to bypass activation.
Quote from: scarface on June 06, 2023, 11:14 PMNote that a new version of windows 7 is available here: https://www.nomaher.com/forum/index.php?topic=14153.msg37204#msg37204
Thank you scarface for sharing an updated image of Win7 :)
Note that a new version of Windows 11 version is available here: https://www.nomaher.com/forum/index.php?topic=14153.msg37204#msg37204
According to the latest news, windows 11 23H2 will be a minor update, It will bring some improvements but nothing revolutionary. And there will be no more feature updates for windows 10...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99r-HeLJavs
(https://i.ibb.co/vwM2Tcb/baboon2.jpg)
Quote from: scarface on July 16, 2023, 12:11 AMNote that a new version of Windows 11 version is available here: https://www.nomaher.com/forum/index.php?topic=14153.msg37204#msg37204
According to the latest news, windows 11 23H2 will be a minor update, It will bring some improvements but nothing revolutionary. And there will be no more feature updates for windows 10...
I clicked where you said and I'm not seeing any link anywhere to download it.
Does it have a setup program inside the ISO so you can mount and update?
@scarface downloaded the new Win 7 ISO. Thanks.
Note that a new version of Windows 11 version is available here: https://www.nomaher.com/forum/index.php?topic=14153.msg37204#msg37204
(the line with "Windows 7,10,11 link" for humbert...)
It Includes the latest August updates as well as new drivers.
(https://i.ibb.co/vwM2Tcb/baboon2.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLJB4pM9Jj0
Windows 10 and 11 with preview updates:
Windows 10:W10 ESD ISO (https://mega.nz/file/YIhiXIBD#1vk4WgQJxuITdMamkEmiTxI2tldB53cpluUYFAy8lfw)
W10 SHA256:win 10 hash (https://mega.nz/file/McJBRSoZ#gk_GET0AkBKryVz0Obp5zDCY5In7xr51HPtv8GPVTEQ)
Windows 11:W11 ESD ISO (https://mega.nz/file/JNBQDLZJ#TqDm1U46Puey7Kypg5aknIQXmxUy45J0X0iJdNMg9Q4)
W11 SHA256:win 11 hash (https://mega.nz/file/5UhljR4S#yzbv4t6-2fUYjtyNPcHZ9r5sCPo_bEqllZYoKQfHjkU)
W11 with NTLite still has issues with post install apps and was getting stuck and ISO had to be remade with WinToolkit. Win 10/11 seems to require 20GB of storage after latest updates, not sure if its an issue with Vbox.
@humbert Yes, both ISOs can be mounted and can do in-place upgrade.
Quote from: Vasudev on September 03, 2023, 07:41 PMWindows 11:W11 ESD ISO (https://mega.nz/file/JNBQDLZJ#TqDm1U46Puey7Kypg5aknIQXmxUy45J0X0iJdNMg9Q4)
W11 SHA256:win 11 hash (https://mega.nz/file/5UhljR4S#yzbv4t6-2fUYjtyNPcHZ9r5sCPo_bEqllZYoKQfHjkU)
W11 with NTLite still has issues with post install apps and was getting stuck and ISO had to be remade with WinToolkit. Win 10/11 seems to require 20GB of storage after latest updates, not sure if its an issue with Vbox.
@humbert Yes, both ISOs can be mounted and can do in-place upgrade.
Is this Windows 22H2? If so, did you add some enhancements and/or remove bloatware? Or is it the same ISO you can pretty much download yourself?
Quote from: humbert on September 04, 2023, 05:07 AMQuote from: Vasudev on September 03, 2023, 07:41 PMWindows 11:W11 ESD ISO (https://mega.nz/file/JNBQDLZJ#TqDm1U46Puey7Kypg5aknIQXmxUy45J0X0iJdNMg9Q4)
W11 SHA256:win 11 hash (https://mega.nz/file/5UhljR4S#yzbv4t6-2fUYjtyNPcHZ9r5sCPo_bEqllZYoKQfHjkU)
W11 with NTLite still has issues with post install apps and was getting stuck and ISO had to be remade with WinToolkit. Win 10/11 seems to require 20GB of storage after latest updates, not sure if its an issue with Vbox.
@humbert Yes, both ISOs can be mounted and can do in-place upgrade.
Is this Windows 22H2? If so, did you add some enhancements and/or remove bloatware? Or is it the same ISO you can pretty much download yourself?
Yes Win 10 and Win 11 22H2 with enhancements and no bloatware.
In case some of you guys haven't heard of this, let me go ahead and post it.
I subscribe to PC World's newsletter. It reported there is a weird bug on Windows 11's File Explorer, only this one is beneficial. Open up File Explorer, hit F11 to go to full screen, then F11 again to get out. File Explorer will run as fast as a bullet. I tested it and, sure enough, it works. Give it a try.
Quote from: humbert on September 06, 2023, 04:57 AMIn case some of you guys haven't heard of this, let me go ahead and post it.
I subscribe to PC World's newsletter. It reported there is a weird bug on Windows 11's File Explorer, only this one is beneficial. Open up File Explorer, hit F11 to go to full screen, then F11 again to get out. File Explorer will run as fast as a bullet. I tested it and, sure enough, it works. Give it a try.
Haha nice, but MSFT will fix that soon. :P
Note that there is no more release of windows 11 for the moment: I'm waiting for the release of Windows 11 23H2.
Note that new Nvidia drivers are available here: https://www.nomaher.com/forum/index.php?topic=14153.msg37204#msg37204
@humbert @scarface
Install.ESD file is used instead of WIM which was around 5.2GB for only 2 editions.
Win 11 23H2 build 2506 CU Preview integrated ISO:
ISO: Win 11 23H2 x64 (https://mega.nz/file/ZIxC3AZJ#HAbvC-QNkyg0aymHYalqBCNQivEbZeFauZZbswTHBxs)
SHA256: sha256_checksum (https://mega.nz/file/1ZYykJxb#gy2rfhFu-5HBwy-NacPvOMhtPvsatjgJBSNpQu-NwFw)
Quote from: Vasudev on November 06, 2023, 01:14 PM@humbert @scarface
Install.ESD file is used instead of WIM which was around 5.2GB for only 2 editions.
Win 11 23H2 build 2506 CU Preview integrated ISO:
ISO: Win 11 23H2 x64 (https://mega.nz/file/ZIxC3AZJ#HAbvC-QNkyg0aymHYalqBCNQivEbZeFauZZbswTHBxs)
SHA256: sha256_checksum (https://mega.nz/file/1ZYykJxb#gy2rfhFu-5HBwy-NacPvOMhtPvsatjgJBSNpQu-NwFw)
maybe I will release a new version of windows 11 with integrated updates and drivers next week then.
Quote from: Vasudev on November 06, 2023, 01:14 PM@humbert @scarface
Install.ESD file is used instead of WIM which was around 5.2GB for only 2 editions.
Win 11 23H2 build 2506 CU Preview integrated ISO:
ISO: Win 11 23H2 x64 (https://mega.nz/file/ZIxC3AZJ#HAbvC-QNkyg0aymHYalqBCNQivEbZeFauZZbswTHBxs)
SHA256: sha256_checksum (https://mega.nz/file/1ZYykJxb#gy2rfhFu-5HBwy-NacPvOMhtPvsatjgJBSNpQu-NwFw)
Did you upgrade my mounting and clicking setup.exe? If so, let me try your ISO. I downloaded a copy 23H2 directly from Micro$haft, tested it under Virtualbox and it did not install. All I got was the hated "undoing changes" prompt.
Let me know.
Quote from: humbert on November 07, 2023, 06:13 AMQuote from: Vasudev on November 06, 2023, 01:14 PM@humbert @scarface
Install.ESD file is used instead of WIM which was around 5.2GB for only 2 editions.
Win 11 23H2 build 2506 CU Preview integrated ISO:
ISO: Win 11 23H2 x64 (https://mega.nz/file/ZIxC3AZJ#HAbvC-QNkyg0aymHYalqBCNQivEbZeFauZZbswTHBxs)
SHA256: sha256_checksum (https://mega.nz/file/1ZYykJxb#gy2rfhFu-5HBwy-NacPvOMhtPvsatjgJBSNpQu-NwFw)
Did you upgrade my mounting and clicking setup.exe? If so, let me try your ISO. I downloaded a copy 23H2 directly from Micro$haft, tested it under Virtualbox and it did not install. All I got was the hated "undoing changes" prompt.
Let me know.
I didn't know you can upgrade from setup.exe under VBox. I used the same stock ISO and added the tweaks, CU preview, updated Win defender platform version, removed EdgeCore under Program Files x86 to trim each image to 9GB from 17GB.
Quote from: Vasudev on November 07, 2023, 06:05 PMI didn't know you can upgrade from setup.exe under VBox. I used the same stock ISO and added the tweaks, CU preview, updated Win defender platform version, removed EdgeCore under Program Files x86 to trim each image to 9GB from 17GB.
No, actually the upgrade failed on Vbox. Just the hateful "undoing changes" prompt after an attempt. Based on what you're telling me I'm under the impression this won't work on Vbox. Let me give it another try after doing a backup. I refer to the newest stock 23H2 which became available for download a few days ago.
You said yours was the latest (as of today's date) stock ISO. Since it's 22H2, would you say it's fair to assume it's already installed on your system if Windows Update works?
You said you trimmed the image town to 9GB. The ISO is a little less than 5GB. Which is it?
Quote from: humbert on November 08, 2023, 05:13 AMQuote from: Vasudev on November 07, 2023, 06:05 PMI didn't know you can upgrade from setup.exe under VBox. I used the same stock ISO and added the tweaks, CU preview, updated Win defender platform version, removed EdgeCore under Program Files x86 to trim each image to 9GB from 17GB.
No, actually the upgrade failed on Vbox. Just the hateful "undoing changes" prompt after an attempt. Based on what you're telling me I'm under the impression this won't work on Vbox. Let me give it another try after doing a backup. I refer to the newest stock 23H2 which became available for download a few days ago.
You said yours was the latest (as of today's date) stock ISO. Since it's 22H2, would you say it's fair to assume it's already installed on your system if Windows Update works?
You said you trimmed the image town to 9GB. The ISO is a little less than 5GB. Which is it?
Grabbed the 23H2 ISO and just added latest preview CU. with Vbox you may need to add 5GB RAM, 50GB disk, TPM2.0,EFI secure boot and chipset is ICH9 instead of PIII.
Image is compressed with ESD otherwise it is 5.8GB if not more.
In the real PC, only enablement package was needed to upgrade from 22H2 to 23H2.
Quote from: Vasudev on November 08, 2023, 06:24 PMGrabbed the 23H2 ISO and just added latest preview CU. with Vbox you may need to add 5GB RAM, 50GB disk, TPM2.0,EFI secure boot and chipset is ICH9 instead of PIII.
Image is compressed with ESD otherwise it is 5.8GB if not more.
In the real PC, only enablement package was needed to upgrade from 22H2 to 23H2.
The VM has plenty of resources alloted to it, so I doubt that's the problem. I tried to install the stock 23H2 to the host OS and I got some sort of license verification error. Not sure what that means or how to get around it. No mention of secure boot or TPM. TPM enabled on my rig, but not secure boot.
Let me be sure about something: the ISO you uploaded to Mega is 22H2's October edition or is it 23H2? Also, I'm not clear what you mean by "enablement package". Can you clarify?
I made a lite version of windows 11 23H2.
Edge was uninstalled. New drivers were integrated.
It could be available tomorrow.
Note that the new version of windows 11 is finally available (currently uploaded).
https://mega.nz/folder/hFMVTIBL#OP7Z1vb95a0AIFl5-_UctQ
(https://i.ibb.co/B2FXKWq/win11.png)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNCOyZNMeWE
Quote from: scarface on November 13, 2023, 06:41 PMI made a lite version of windows 11 23H2.
Edge was uninstalled. New drivers were integrated.
It could be available tomorrow.
Let me ask you something. If this is 23H2, does it have that other garbage M$ is pushing (e.g., CoPilot, Passphrase)? I'm wondering because my VM copy did manage to download and install 23H2 through Windows Update. I'm not seeing anything like that. On both the desktop and laptop copies of W11 there is as yet no option to upgrade to it. I have no idea why.
It's not that I need it or want it. I'm curious as to why it's not there after so much hype. I'm thinking you since you have the lite version for download, all this stuff was there and you removed it.
Quote from: humbert on November 20, 2023, 05:01 AMQuote from: scarface on November 13, 2023, 06:41 PMI made a lite version of windows 11 23H2.
Edge was uninstalled. New drivers were integrated.
It could be available tomorrow.
Let me ask you something. If this is 23H2, does it have that other garbage M$ is pushing (e.g., CoPilot, Passphrase)?
I don't know because I don't use them. But I didn't see these apps.
I removed windows edge, which takes up several gigabytes of space, that's why I called it "lite".
Quote from: humbert on November 09, 2023, 05:13 AMQuote from: Vasudev on November 08, 2023, 06:24 PMGrabbed the 23H2 ISO and just added latest preview CU. with Vbox you may need to add 5GB RAM, 50GB disk, TPM2.0,EFI secure boot and chipset is ICH9 instead of PIII.
Image is compressed with ESD otherwise it is 5.8GB if not more.
In the real PC, only enablement package was needed to upgrade from 22H2 to 23H2.
The VM has plenty of resources alloted to it, so I doubt that's the problem. I tried to install the stock 23H2 to the host OS and I got some sort of license verification error. Not sure what that means or how to get around it. No mention of secure boot or TPM. TPM enabled on my rig, but not secure boot.
Let me be sure about something: the ISO you uploaded to Mega is 22H2's October edition or is it 23H2? Also, I'm not clear what you mean by "enablement package". Can you clarify?
Enablement package(EKB) is small package around 200KB which enables fast upgrade to higher OS version without needing bigger file downloads. The ISO is indeed Win 11 23H2 x64.
@humbert & @scarface
It seems Reserved Storage is the reason why ISO takes huge chunk of space in VM. The registry trick isn't working and needs the Dism command.
Dism /Online /Set-ReservedStorageState /State:Disabled
Future releases of Win 10/11 and possibly ARM64 versions will have the above script integrated.
Win 10 22H2 November 2023: Win 10 22H2 (https://mega.nz/file/MVAFjD7A#4kMU4-MJ9OiRSzgTWYoo22Cs5_GArMp1GUvaV5p5Tr8)
Hashes SHA256: Checksum SHA256 (https://mega.nz/file/BZhBWLhb#yttjrJBx2jcUydp4GhF_nTa1eYohj7n9utf0T2PQtfI)
Quote from: scarface on November 20, 2023, 09:46 PMI removed windows edge, which takes up several gigabytes of space, that's why I called it "lite".
How did you do that? I found a script at github that does that. You run in under Powershell as administrator. I'm thinking you know a better way.
And yes, Edge is a total waste. It's just a microsoftified Google Chrome that sends telemetry to M$oft instead of Google.
Quote from: humbert on November 22, 2023, 05:37 AMHow did you do that? I found a script at github that does that. You run in under Powershell as administrator. I'm thinking you know a better way.
I used that script indeed. It seems to be the best way to remove it.
Actually, I hope you have downloaded this new version of windows. Although I think there is nothing new in windows 11, this edition is probably the best I have released so far (you have probably noticed the new transparent taskbar too).
Quote from: scarface on November 24, 2023, 10:05 PMActually, I hope you have downloaded this new version of windows. Although I think there is nothing new in windows 11, this edition is probably the best I have released so far (you have probably noticed the new transparent taskbar too).
I'm not seeing a tranparent taskbar. I don't see why anyone would even want it. All is does it make the taskbar harder to see. I have mine set to hide automatically unless I need it. Bring down the mouse cursor or hit the Windows key and it comes back up.
Quote from: humbert on November 25, 2023, 05:44 AMQuote from: scarface on November 24, 2023, 10:05 PMActually, I hope you have downloaded this new version of windows. Although I think there is nothing new in windows 11, this edition is probably the best I have released so far (you have probably noticed the new transparent taskbar too).
I'm not seeing a tranparent taskbar. I don't see why anyone would even want it. All is does it make the taskbar harder to see. I have mine set to hide automatically unless I need it. Bring down the mouse cursor or hit the Windows key and it comes back up.
Didn't see that in my edition as well. Did they bring Windows Aero Transparent glass taskbar?
I did try to service ARM version it seems my CPU is not powerful enough to handle ARM64 builds. Getting pegged at 100% for 3hrs plus just to make standard WIM editable images in an ISO.
Quote from: Vasudev on November 26, 2023, 10:19 PMI did try to service ARM version it seems my CPU is not powerful enough to handle ARM64 builds. Getting pegged at 100% for 3hrs plus just to make standard WIM editable images in an ISO.
What are these ARM CPU's this ARM64 version is intended for? I've always used the standard version.
Quote from: humbert on November 25, 2023, 05:44 AMI'm not seeing a tranparent taskbar. I don't see why anyone would even want it. All is does it make the taskbar harder to see. I have mine set to hide automatically unless I need it. Bring down the mouse cursor or hit the Windows key and it comes back up.
In the version I made, there is a transparent taskbar: https://www.nomaher.com/forum/index.php?topic=14153.msg38603#msg38603
Quote from: scarface on December 01, 2023, 05:10 AMIn the version I made, there is a transparent taskbar: https://www.nomaher.com/forum/index.php?topic=14153.msg38603#msg38603
I'm seeing it now. For some reason 23H2 became available through Windows Update on my W11 virtual machine and the Laptop, but not on the host OS in my desktop. Not that it's important, I'm just curious.
I checked the VM with 23H2 on it and I'm not seeing a way to make the taskbar transparent. I googled it and I found a M$ Store app that does it, as well as a registry hack for it. I see no menu item anywhere for taskbar opacity.
Quote from: humbert on November 27, 2023, 04:41 AMQuote from: Vasudev on November 26, 2023, 10:19 PMI did try to service ARM version it seems my CPU is not powerful enough to handle ARM64 builds. Getting pegged at 100% for 3hrs plus just to make standard WIM editable images in an ISO.
What are these ARM CPU's this ARM64 version is intended for? I've always used the standard version.
This is for ARM version only. MSFT only makes 64bit for their surface lineups with ARM CPU. We should use standard amd64 ISO.
Note that a new version of windows 11 will be available on the forum soon.
Quote from: scarface on December 14, 2023, 08:21 PMNote that a new version of windows 11 will be available on the forum soon.
Is this 23H2? Why some computers get it and some don't is strange. The test copy of W11 I run under VirtualBox got it, as well as my laptop. But my main desktop didn't. Go figure!
Quote from: humbert on December 15, 2023, 05:13 AMIs this 23H2?
yes it is.
The new version is available here: https://mega.nz/folder/hFMVTIBL#OP7Z1vb95a0AIFl5-_UctQ
Note that a new version of windows 11 with the latest updates is available here: https://mega.nz/folder/hFMVTIBL#OP7Z1vb95a0AIFl5-_UctQ
I'm sorry to be missing these days, but I have something else on my mind. As usual I will release another version of windows 11 when new updates are out (When I can, I will be busy next week). In the meantime, feel free to continue the topics you consider the most interesting to keep the forum alive.
The new updates for win11 will be released next Tuesday.
Due to my planning (I'm going to Annecy this week-end to see a woman, I have 2 professional meetings on Tuesday, I have a rendez-vous (with another woman) on Wednesday, I have to attend a conference on Thursday...)
In all likelihood, the new version won't be out before the end of February. Those who used to download these versions (I know that hubert, Vasudev and Guliver downloaded some of my releases) will have to wait.
Quote from: scarface on February 10, 2024, 01:23 AMDue to my planning (I'm going to Annecy this week-end to see a woman, I have 2 professional meetings on Tuesday, I have a rendez-vous (with another woman) on Wednesday, I have to attend a conference on Thursday...)
So you're becoming a real ladies man ;) -- Congrats! Remember when you get it on with them, be sure they're each in your own mental virtual machine so as not to get them mixed up.
I've refreshed the ISOs for Win 10 and 11.
Windows 11 (https://mega.nz/file/9ZpBkKiL#gmCXxKqcfk2haUT3qHuerknnBHBSEYtzV1_RiGXZbII)
Windows 11 Hash (https://mega.nz/file/tQ5jTArT#s86uMtWNS9fbG6DuKBNencxT6wEQ2eQHWFDlTXIcnPg)
Windows 10 (https://mega.nz/file/xQ5i2KZb#WwWStq8oJiRJ5geQnJPjQwSjKc1Dp9-DKfRE8Ep5T7w)
Win 10 Hash (https://mega.nz/file/8URXwARQ#02oap0H1y-aFwutEoQm7IcnZ85rcKPJNyyRufFUIhMc)
Tonight, a new version of Windows 11 with the latest updates is available on the forum.
Link: https://mega.nz/folder/hFMVTIBL#OP7Z1vb95a0AIFl5-_UctQ
(https://i.ibb.co/YjQqc6M/win11.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfUSOFTM1sw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Bt2RD1e6mY
Vasudev & Scarface ↣ Are your copies of Windows preactived? Just curious.
Quote from: humbert on February 19, 2024, 05:38 AMVasudev & Scarface ↣ Are your copies of Windows preactived? Just curious.
Well humbert, it turns out that you are one of the few posting members on the forum, and your comments are usually interesting and appreciated. However It turns out that few users are posting downloadable contents, besides me, and Vasudev.
As far as your question is concerned, you've already asked if my versions were preactivated. and I think I already answered this question, there is nothing new about it. I'm getting old, and I don't want to answer the same questions twice.
Actually, I'd be glad if you came with questions once you have installed the OS. But at this point, I have the feeling that there is no point in answering. Preactivated or not, you probably don't intend to install either of the 2 versions above I guess.
Since I provided a download link, you could easily download the content, and if you look inside, you will get the answer anyway.
Quote from: humbert on February 19, 2024, 05:38 AMVasudev & Scarface ↣ Are your copies of Windows preactived? Just curious.
No, as always no activation or activators included so that Mega won't remove the downloads.
Quote from: Vasudev on February 22, 2024, 06:33 PMNo, as always no activation or activators included so that Mega won't remove the downloads.
Does Mega go in an open up every file you put on their site? Also, given so many cloud sites out there, why does it necessarily have to be Mega? Google (for example) offers 15Gb for free.
I've seen many Windows ISO's that are pre-activated. You could also put a password-protected separate file with the activator on it, then rename the activator to something real strange. Another way is to put a torrent file inside the ISO so we can download the activator ourselves, or provide a link hidden inside a text file. There are many ways to get around this limitation.
Quote from: humbert on February 23, 2024, 05:23 AMQuote from: Vasudev on February 22, 2024, 06:33 PMNo, as always no activation or activators included so that Mega won't remove the downloads.
Does Mega go in an open up every file you put on their site? Also, given so many cloud sites out there, why does it necessarily have to be Mega? Google (for example) offers 15Gb for free.
I've seen many Windows ISO's that are pre-activated. You could also put a password-protected separate file with the activator on it, then rename the activator to something real strange. Another way is to put a torrent file inside the ISO so we can download the activator ourselves, or provide a link hidden inside a text file. There are many ways to get around this limitation.
It will get taken down due to DMCA. I tried integrating KMS script that adds license for both Office and Windows but someone reported it as containing activators which got removed from google drive, onedrive and Mega.
Quote from: Vasudev on March 12, 2024, 08:26 PMIt will get taken down due to DMCA. I tried integrating KMS script that adds license for both Office and Windows but someone reported it as containing activators which got removed from google drive, onedrive and Mega.
You said someone reported it. I'm assuming they downloaded it. How did they obtain the link? From what little I know about download sites, in order to download they need a link you provide. They can't exactly go in there with your password and check what's there.
Torrent sites are full of hacked Windows and activators. Can you upload to one of them or is your upload speed too slow for that?
If you have a router can you put a little NAS on it?
Quote from: humbert on March 13, 2024, 04:06 AMQuote from: Vasudev on March 12, 2024, 08:26 PMIt will get taken down due to DMCA. I tried integrating KMS script that adds license for both Office and Windows but someone reported it as containing activators which got removed from google drive, onedrive and Mega.
You said someone reported it. I'm assuming they downloaded it. How did they obtain the link? From what little I know about download sites, in order to download they need a link you provide. They can't exactly go in there with your password and check what's there.
Torrent sites are full of hacked Windows and activators. Can you upload to one of them or is your upload speed too slow for that?
If you have a router can you put a little NAS on it?
I did post it as public forum instead of PM/DM. Torrents are slow and throttled even with VPN in India.
Quote from: Vasudev on March 13, 2024, 07:34 PMI did post it as public forum instead of PM/DM. Torrents are slow and throttled even with VPN in India.
Pardon my ignorance. Isn't the whole idea of a VPN to scramble data and make it difficult, if not impossible, for outsiders to know what data you're transferring? Or do we have a situation where the ISP's lack of bandwidth make it difficult to accomodate those who transfer lots of data (as in torrents) and purposely slow them down for that reason?
Quote from: humbert on March 15, 2024, 03:35 AMQuote from: Vasudev on March 13, 2024, 07:34 PMI did post it as public forum instead of PM/DM. Torrents are slow and throttled even with VPN in India.
Pardon my ignorance. Isn't the whole idea of a VPN to scramble data and make it difficult, if not impossible, for outsiders to know what data you're transferring? Or do we have a situation where the ISP's lack of bandwidth make it difficult to accomodate those who transfer lots of data (as in torrents) and purposely slow them down for that reason?
We don't have a physical server in India due to new IT policies to share VPN data so most of them opted out and switched to diskless servers.
Today, a new version of Windows 11 with the latest updates is available on the forum.
Link: https://mega.nz/folder/hFMVTIBL#OP7Z1vb95a0AIFl5-_UctQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOckdooNDfE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw-2sCH5-n4
QuoteVasudev: We don't have a physical server in India due to new IT policies to share VPN data so most of them opted out and switched to diskless servers.
Who exactly shares your VPN data? Does that mean getting a VPN is India is basically a waste of money? Also, these diskless servers you mention: do they just link you to servers outside India where the files you want are located, or is there more to it than that?
QuoteScarface: Link: https://mega.nz/folder/hFMVTIBL#OP7Z1vb95a0AIFl5-_UctQ
Does Mega give you a hard time with these files like Vasudev said? Are your copies of Windows pre-activated or do you provide an activator or a link for one?
Quote from: humbert on March 23, 2024, 05:59 AMDoes Mega give you a hard time with these files like Vasudev said? Are your copies of Windows pre-activated or do you provide an activator or a link for one?
Mega never deleted any of my files stored on it. There is probably nothing amiss in the windows 11 iso.
Quote from: scarface on March 28, 2024, 01:16 PMMega never deleted any of my files stored on it. There is probably nothing amiss in the windows 11 iso.
By this do you mean there are no activators, or that the ISO is not pre-activated? To ask the question another way, if someone downloaded your ISO what do they do for activation?
Quote from: humbert on March 29, 2024, 06:47 AMQuote from: scarface on March 28, 2024, 01:16 PMMega never deleted any of my files stored on it. There is probably nothing amiss in the windows 11 iso.
By this do you mean there are no activators, or that the ISO is not pre-activated? To ask the question another way, if someone downloaded your ISO what do they do for activation?
They will probably use KMS activators.
Quote from: Vasudev on April 03, 2024, 05:05 PMThey will probably use KMS activators.
Yeah. I was asking Scarface if he had put one in there. Even if he didn't there are so many activators out there it won't be much of a problem getting one. I firmly believe it's Micro$haft themselves who put them there. They want Windows on every computer. How it gets there doesn't matter.
Note that a new version will be released soon. It will include the latest April updates as well as updated programs and drivers. I don't know when it will be released since I have a new "business trip" soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uItsDuq2iwg
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