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Title: Slow download! of uTorrent
Post by: cha on February 16, 2014, 04:59 AM
Installed (3.3.2 Build 30488), the latest possible
try downloading torrents on tpb site, so far it's OK
I faced problems slow download speeds + / - 50 KB / s
In order to increase the download speeds, I tried to setup
many choices that have to be changed.
I am not familiar with this.

Suggest any, more than welcome. :(
Title: Re: Slow download! of uTorrent
Post by: cha on February 16, 2014, 09:16 AM
Quote from: usmangujjar on February 16, 2014, 05:10 AM
@cha> when you downloaded the torrent file, you seen Seeds/peers?? and read the comment??
pick only high rated torrents.
I'm still not so clear for this, possible more detail please!
Title: Re: Slow download! of uTorrent
Post by: humbert on February 17, 2014, 04:08 AM
@Cha -> Torrent speeds are heavily dependent on the number of people in the swarm. "Swarm" means the number of people sharing the torrent(seeds and peers). Since the file comes from all of them together, the more people the faster the speed. Before we do more tweaking, do this: open another tab, go to thepiratebay.se and randomly select a torrent that has PLENTY of seeds and peers (people in swarm). After a few minutes (be patient) check your speed, it should increase tremendously. Also, since everything depends on the swarm, it's normal for speeds to vary all the time.

The great thing about BitTorrent is tbat it uses few resouces. Even with a slow computer you can leave it working in the background and do other stuff as if BitTorrent weren't there. By leaving it on you can grab huge files, slowly but surely.

Do that and report back to us.
Title: Re: Slow download! of uTorrent
Post by: Shadow.97 on February 18, 2014, 01:48 AM
Check so that µTorrent isn't showing a triangle at the bottom right, and that it isn't limited by not allowing enough connections. I had to boost my connection to the roof to be able to max my speeds.
Title: Re: Slow download! of uTorrent
Post by: cha on February 19, 2014, 04:15 AM
Quote from: humbert on February 17, 2014, 04:08 AM
@Cha -> Torrent speeds are heavily dependent on the number of people in the swarm. "Swarm" means the number of people sharing the torrent(seeds and peers). Since the file comes from all of them together, the more people the faster the speed. Before we do more tweaking, do this: open another tab, go to thepiratebay.se and randomly select a torrent that has PLENTY of seeds and peers (people in swarm). After a few minutes (be patient) check your speed, it should increase tremendously. Also, since everything depends on the swarm, it's normal for speeds to vary all the time.

The great thing about BitTorrent is tbat it uses few resouces. Even with a slow computer you can leave it working in the background and do other stuff as if BitTorrent weren't there. By leaving it on you can grab huge files, slowly but surely.

Do that and report back to us.
@humbert
@gujjar
@shadow
Now I can start playing with uTorrent, more comfort, after having all suggest,
for a while not yet have question . Thanks.
Title: Re: Slow download! of uTorrent
Post by: humbert on February 20, 2014, 06:35 AM
I'm glad it's working. Now you can enjoy all the files, movies, and programs you'll ever want - no restrictions, no logging in, no garbage! Always keep in mind how torrents work - parts of your file are coming from everybody in pieces like a jigsaw puzzle. Your computer simply takes all those pieces and re-assembles them. This is precisely why the more people in the swarm (seeds and peers), the faster you'll get your file.

Another thing. Be a nice girl and seed your files when the download is finished. Don't close µTorrent, just leave it on for as long as you can. This allows others in the swarm to grab pieces of the file from you in the same way you just grabbed pieces from them. That way we all help each other.  :) ;)  And remember, the fact that you're seeding will in no way slow down your computer, you can keep on working on other stuff perfectly.
Title: torrent client
Post by: Vasudev on October 14, 2015, 04:38 PM
@Scarface: Why does uploading torrent taking a lot of time, hell not even a megs of data is uploaded?
Title: Re: torrent client
Post by: scarface on October 14, 2015, 08:02 PM
Quote@Scarface: Why does uploading torrent taking a lot of time, hell not even a megs of data is uploaded.
Consider sending me some screenshots, an upload speed test, and a way to see if some downloaders (leechers) are connected.
PS: I have no connection where I am and I wanted to download a movie so I used my good old system, using a hotspot with a proxy to be able to connect to peers since hotspots are meant to blocks P2P connections. And it's working, both download and upload. Check if your network is not completely closed.
Title: Re: torrent client
Post by: humbert on October 16, 2015, 04:23 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on October 14, 2015, 04:38 PM
@Scarface: Why does uploading torrent taking a lot of time, hell not even a megs of data is uploaded.

2 factors are involved: (1) the upload speed your ISP provides, and (2) the number of leeches who want your torrent. You don't really "upload" a torrent, what you do is make it available to whoever wants it - if nobody wants it then the torrent goes nowhere. This constrasts sharply with uploading a file to a site such as mega.co.nz, where you are directly uploading the file to that site's server.
Title: Re: torrent client
Post by: Vasudev on October 16, 2015, 05:53 PM
Quote from: humbert on October 16, 2015, 04:23 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on October 14, 2015, 04:38 PM
@Scarface: Why does uploading torrent taking a lot of time, hell not even a megs of data is uploaded.

2 factors are involved: (1) the upload speed your ISP provides, and (2) the number of leeches who want your torrent. You don't really "upload" a torrent, what you do is make it available to whoever wants it - if nobody wants it then the torrent goes nowhere. This constrasts sharply with uploading a file to a site such as mega.co.nz, where you are directly uploading the file to that site's server.
At the moment I've only one seed. I'm using transmission on Xubuntu. 
Title: Re: Slow download! of uTorrent
Post by: scarface on October 16, 2015, 09:19 PM
QuoteAt the moment I've only one seed. I'm using transmission on Xubuntu.
How many seeders/leechers are there for this torrent? You should be able to see that on the webpage of the torrent. If there are many it must be a misconfiguration of the client. To have as many seeders as possible, a port must be open in the router and the firewall, in tcp and udp, otherwise you are in "passive mode". In passive mode, the router and the firewall on the server side need to be configured to accept and forward incoming connections. To put it clearly, the protocols for p2p or ftp are following the same pattern, 2 peers in passive mode can't see each other. And with linux, the configuration of the firewall might require to open a port, contrary to windows. This notion of passive mode is essential and since every port is closed in routers by default, if it's not properly configured, you'll be a passive user.
To check, you can use dcgui for linux and try to use active mode, to see if you can download on those in passive mode. The interest of being active is to be able to see every peer. And even on dc++ hubs, despite a public of "connoisseurs", many, if not the majority were using a passing mode as shown in their tag. 
http://linuxreviews.org/software/p2p/valknut_dcgui_qt/
PS: I'm still using a hotspot probably broadcasted by one of my neighbours (found a code too),  and since hotspots have no open ports, they are in passive mods. And even if I found a way to bypass the rejection of peer connections by using a proxy (called socks 5 for the specialists), I can only download on active peers too. And I can tell you they are not numerous. (For some reasons I moved near Lyon for some time, and I didn't ask my ISP to move the line too). For some torrents with 40 seeders, sometimes not more than 5 are seen by the client (for my unique download, currently 16 in swarm out of 81 peers connected...)

When a port has been opened, it must be provided in the settings of the client, so that it won't choose another port.
For example, you can chose port 15000 or 15300...
Title: Re: Slow download! of uTorrent
Post by: Vasudev on October 17, 2015, 11:44 AM
@scarface: Could encryption slow down my upload speed considerably, since my outgoing connection packets are all encrypted by transmission.
Title: Re: Slow download! of uTorrent
Post by: scarface on October 17, 2015, 03:36 PM
Quote@scarface: Could encryption slow down my upload speed considerably, since my outgoing connection packets are all encrypted by transmission.
I don't know. It seems nobody is downloading this, unlike the first one.
Title: Re: Slow download! of uTorrent
Post by: scarface on October 17, 2015, 07:34 PM
to Vasudev: you still have not said if your router has been configured.
Also, you probably noticed the messages have been moved to cha's topic "slow download of utorrent" and I think it's a good tutorial for those who have the same problems. Few peers can involve a slow download, of course.
To test if your client is well-configured, you can still try to download this clip: http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=10362963886563585178
If you can you are in active mode. Otherwise, if the client doesn't see any peer, you're in passive mode. Since I can't open ports on Free and SFR hotspots, I have to use passive mode in the meantime (don't bother about upload the speed, it's capped at 100kb/s)
Title: Re: Slow download! of uTorrent
Post by: humbert on October 18, 2015, 03:36 AM
On a typical torrent client the default settings are pretty much all you need. I use Qbittorrent, the only thing I reconfigured was the download directory and the number of torrents being uploaded and downloaded at once.

@Vasudev: suppose you downloaded any torrent file and then seeded it. Does it upload? If it doesn then nobody wants your torrent. As far as I know there is no difference in seeding a torrent you downloaded and a brand new one you created, i.e., seeding is seeding. That's how torrents work.

Keep in mind the upload speed provided by your ISP is as slow as a snail.

Another suggestion: try Qbittorrent instead of Transmission. I found out about it precisely because it was available as a µTorrent replacement for Linux. I then downloaded and installed the Windows version, which I'm using now.
Title: Re: Slow download! of uTorrent
Post by: Vasudev on October 18, 2015, 12:31 PM
Quote from: scarface on October 17, 2015, 07:34 PM
to Vasudev: you still have not said if your router has been configured.
Also, you probably noticed the messages have been moved to cha's topic "slow download of utorrent" and I think it's a good tutorial for those who have the same problems. Few peers can involve a slow download, of course.
To test if your client is well-configured, you can still try to download this clip: http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=10362963886563585178
If you can you are in active mode. Otherwise, if the client doesn't see any peer, you're in passive mode. Since I can't open ports on Free and SFR hotspots, I have to use passive mode in the meantime (don't bother about upload the speed, it's capped at 100kb/s)
Its not a router infact its a dongle. Problem fixed, I had put a upload limit of 10KBps and that slowed things down and upload speed was around 1.5-3Mbps.
Quote from: humbert on October 18, 2015, 03:36 AM
On a typical torrent client the default settings are pretty much all you need. I use Qbittorrent, the only thing I reconfigured was the download directory and the number of torrents being uploaded and downloaded at once.

@Vasudev: suppose you downloaded any torrent file and then seeded it. Does it upload? If it doesn then nobody wants your torrent. As far as I know there is no difference in seeding a torrent you downloaded and a brand new one you created, i.e., seeding is seeding. That's how torrents work.

Keep in mind the upload speed provided by your ISP is as slow as a snail.

Another suggestion: try Qbittorrent instead of Transmission. I found out about it precisely because it was available as a µTorrent replacement for Linux. I then downloaded and installed the Windows version, which I'm using now.
In fact 200MB was uploaded in 30mins and then I went to sleep at 2:30am.
Title: Re: Slow download! of uTorrent
Post by: scarface on November 22, 2015, 03:25 PM
Here is a tutorial for the ones who are eager to open some ports. Maybe it will be useful for cha or iih.
By default, if you have a router, every port is closed. If you need to send sth to a peer or receive sth from a peer, it won't be possible, except if this peer opened some ports in his own router, and specified it in his software.

First you have to go to the configuration of the router. Sometimes, you can access it by typing 192.168.1.1.
Then go to the nat section/ports translation.
To open ports you have two choices:
-You can select one port, choose one internal address, and then the protocol. To be sure, choose both tcp/udp.


-You can also activate the "DMZ"
DMZ stands for demilitarized zone. However, I advise against choosing this option, since all your ports will be open.