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Off Topic Discussion => Chit Chat => Topic started by: BLADESHARK on February 09, 2012, 07:38 AM

Poll
Question: Avira vs. Avast vs. AVG
Option 1: Avira votes: 7
Option 2: Avast votes: 6
Option 3: AVG votes: 5
Option 4: Other votes: 8
Title: Free Antivirus
Post by: BLADESHARK on February 09, 2012, 07:38 AM
Vote for the best free Antivirus according to you. :P :P
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: Maher on February 09, 2012, 04:09 PM
AVG is rubbish. The pick for me is between Avast and Avira.
I pick Avira ;)
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: Ahmad on February 10, 2012, 08:06 AM
Hello my dear friends,  :)
First, I only tried AVG before and I think it's not good.
Between those 3 antivirus, I pick Avira according to what I hear about it and as a trust of Mr. Maher's opinion.
But I'm still working with ESET NOD32 and I'm not thinking of changing it now.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: Anal_Wype on February 11, 2012, 10:26 PM
I have been using AVG since 1998 and have had many good results, and I would recommend AVG to others. However I am willing to try any new programs that have been recommended. So I will give Avira a try I just hope it doesn't cause any problems. But I do trust the sit administrator and will give them a try.
I did tr Eset Nod32 but I kept nodding off it was around 32 times if I remember right. That was a Nup which is Pun Backwards. Where can I find Eset Nod32?
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: humbert on February 12, 2012, 12:34 AM
Quote from: Anal_Wype on February 11, 2012, 10:26 PM
I have been using AVG since 1998 and have had many good results, and I would recommend AVG to others. However I am willing to try any new programs that have been recommended. So I will give Avira a try I just hope it doesn't cause any problems. But I do trust the sit administrator and will give them a try.
I did tr Eset Nod32 but I kept nodding off it was around 32 times if I remember right. That was a Nup which is Pun Backwards. Where can I find Eset Nod32?

When you look around for a better mousetrap, be sure it can do the following: (1) ask you what to do before taking action as well as tell you the affected file and describe the "problem". Keep in mind in piracy you're going to find many false positives; (2) that it not be a resource hog and quietly does its job in the background, and (3) that getting updates is easy and not a headache - I've seen some antivirus programs often complain about bad keys. These are the reasons I prefer Microsoft Security Essentials.
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: Bubster on May 28, 2012, 01:01 AM
OMG, my outright favorite hav been Avast for the longest time....until today! Reinstalling a friends machine, I downloaded Avast as usual, installed it (and the program installed Google Chrome, even though I said NO to that), and after that...did it work as usual? Oh no, now you have to setup an account with them to get the latest updates, and for the program to start working. I tried to register an account, 3 times!!! When I finally got logged in to their site, my license ky was nowhere to be found, so I logged out and went an downloaded Avira instead.
Even after uninstalling the avast program tried to get me to reinstall it, and then I got to a survey, to tell them why I did it. (Maybe I should have used nicer words than I did, but I was also factual in my wording) Last question on the survey...... What anti-virus program do you have installed now? (or close to that) And they listed a long row of other makers. I chose "Other" and wrote "Not yours!"
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: BLADESHARK on May 28, 2012, 10:07 AM
Quote from: Bubster on May 28, 2012, 01:01 AM
I chose "Other" and wrote "Not yours!"
;D ;D ;D LOL!!!!!!!
Actually to tell you frankly my friend I am planning to install Avast Free after formatting my PC
MSE now irritates me a bit. If I tell MSE to Clean,remove or Allow
So what is your opinion still [I just want to know]
Was your Avast Free or the paid one. :P
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: Bubster on May 28, 2012, 02:30 PM
Quote from: BLADESHARK on May 28, 2012, 10:07 AM
Quote from: Bubster on May 28, 2012, 01:01 AM
I chose "Other" and wrote "Not yours!"
;D ;D ;D LOL!!!!!!!
Actually to tell you frankly my friend I am planning to install Avast Free after formatting my PC
MSE now irritates me a bit. If I tell MSE to Clean,remove or Allow
So what is your opinion still [I just want to know]
Was your Avast Free or the paid one. :P
Well, I have been using Avast for about 7-8 years now and it has been working flawless. The last couple for years they have started to add stuff to make it a more complete protection for your machine, like installed a sandbox mode to run new programs in, and it has all been good. The problem is that they have a problem with too many users are using the free version, and try to influence them more and more to get the paid version instead. When I downloaded up until maybe 2-3 years ago it was, click free version and it started to download.  Today you have to click through a bunch of windows asking.."Hey why not try our paid version for free for 2 weeks"....or..."Are you sure you just want the free ones?". And now finally you have to register to their site to get it to work.
So...conclusion is that the program is still very good and I recommend it, but I don't like what the company behind it is doing. So if you can manage to get a license from them, then go for it!
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: BLADESHARK on May 28, 2012, 07:40 PM
Quote from: Bubster on May 28, 2012, 02:30 PM
So if you can manage to get a license from them, then go for it!
Which fool is going to buy a license. ;D
I always use Pirated one ;)
PIRATES RULE!! :D
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: Bubster on May 29, 2012, 02:38 AM
Quote from: BLADESHARK on May 28, 2012, 07:40 PM
Quote from: Bubster on May 28, 2012, 02:30 PM
So if you can manage to get a license from them, then go for it!
Which fool is going to buy a license. ;D
I always use Pirated one ;)
PIRATES RULE!! :D

LOL...well, that is true. But what I meant' was is you manage to get a license key for their free version of the program.   ::)
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: BLADESHARK on May 29, 2012, 08:19 AM
Quote from: Bubster on May 29, 2012, 02:38 AM
But what I meant' was is you manage to get a license key for their free version of the program.   ::)
NO the Internet Security :o
But I think its too much bloated :(
I think I should try Antivirus Pro :)
Which do you prefer to ME? :P
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: Bubster on May 30, 2012, 02:01 AM
Well, if we talk about Internet Security...and having a paid version (no matter how yo got it)  ;) Then I'm not
so sure anymore. I was for the longest time a big fan of F-Secure, but as time went by, it just got bigger and
bigger, and took too much resources from the machine. So that was the point I went over to Avast instead.
(If I were to get a total package today, it would probably still be F-Secure, simply because of familiarity!)  ;D
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: Ronsin-ok on May 30, 2012, 02:23 AM
@bubster

Do they still have the sandbox mode in the new free version?

Sounds good just for that.
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: Ronsin-ok on May 30, 2012, 02:51 AM
I was just there, Sandbox mode is not included in the free version.

http://www.avast.com/en-us/free-antivirus-download (http://www.avast.com/en-us/free-antivirus-download)

If anyone wants a direct link link to the file.

http://files.avast.com/iavs5x/avast_free_antivirus_setup.exe (http://files.avast.com/iavs5x/avast_free_antivirus_setup.exe)
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: katana on May 30, 2012, 04:37 AM
Hey, guys! Glad I found this forum...

I've been using avast for a couple of years now though I used nod32 before. Avast is a really good one but I think I'll give Avira a try. Some of my buddies said that it doesn't take much from the system so it'll be good for older PCs...
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: Ahmad on May 30, 2012, 06:11 AM
Hello everybody. :)

I'll speak only about taking much from system resources, but with PAID one :

My favorite AntiVirus is ESET NOD32 which I've been using for about 7 years.. with no one problem.. and just for information, I think the oldest PC among us is MINE  ;D ;D. Yet, I don't feel any slowness on my PC.
I really like it very much specially, the Smart Security version which includes a firewall to be a complete internet security program.

BTW, it has very advanced features and a lot of options for advanced users to adjust it as they like.

This is just my opinion and I respect others  :).. I don't say that other AntiVirus programs are bad, but this is what I'm familiar and satisfied with.

Wish you all the best.  ;)
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: katana on May 30, 2012, 06:27 AM
Can you recommend a good torrent for nod32? I use different AV's for each of our family members' desktops, laptop & netbook.  :)
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: Bubster on May 30, 2012, 02:48 PM
Quote from: Ronsin-ok on May 30, 2012, 02:51 AM
I was just there, Sandbox mode is not included in the free version.

http://www.avast.com/en-us/free-antivirus-download (http://www.avast.com/en-us/free-antivirus-download)

If anyone wants a direct link link to the file.

http://files.avast.com/iavs5x/avast_free_antivirus_setup.exe (http://files.avast.com/iavs5x/avast_free_antivirus_setup.exe)

Doesn't surprise me a bit. They are hungry for money no, and do everything they can to get people to pay for their stuff instead. So
happy that I changed to Avira.  :)
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: humbert on May 31, 2012, 05:00 AM
Quote from: Ahmad on May 30, 2012, 06:11 AM
I'll speak only about taking much from system resources, but with PAID one :
My favorite AntiVirus is ESET NOD32 which I've been using for about 7 years.. with no one problem.. and just for information, I think the oldest PC among us is MINE  ;D ;D. Yet, I don't feel any slowness on my PC.
I really like it very much specially, the Smart Security version which includes a firewall to be a complete internet security program.
BTW, it has very advanced features and a lot of options for advanced users to adjust it as they like.

May I ask, how much do you pay a year (or a month) for updates to NOD32? As you're aware, the initial price is one thing, but if they don't update your definitions, you've done nothing. I guess it shouldn't be too much. Also, can you pay them in Egyptian pounds or do you have to run out and buy foreign currency?
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: katana on May 31, 2012, 08:49 AM
By now, I'm pretty much familiar with AVAST features but I want to try Avira on my sis' netbook. Does Avira also have Site Blocking & Browser Protection?
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: Shadow.97 on May 31, 2012, 01:22 PM
Quote from: katana on May 31, 2012, 08:49 AM
By now, I'm pretty much familiar with AVAST features but I want to try Avira on my sis' netbook. Does Avira also have Site Blocking & Browser Protection?
Tip, get WoT(Web Of Trust) in my opinion its great, but siteblocking, do you really want to controll people that much. In my opinion the internet should be.... Free!
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: Ahmad on May 31, 2012, 02:07 PM
Quote from: humbert on May 31, 2012, 05:00 AM
May I ask, how much do you pay a year (or a month) for updates to NOD32? As you're aware, the initial price is one thing, but if they don't update your definitions, you've done nothing. I guess it shouldn't be too much. Also, can you pay them in Egyptian pounds or do you have to run out and buy foreign currency?

I pay nothing.  ;D
There is a tool called TNOD which brings serials for NOD32 [Pirated].
;)
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: BLADESHARK on May 31, 2012, 07:04 PM
Quote from: Bubster on May 30, 2012, 02:48 PM
Doesn't surprise me a bit. They are hungry for money no, and do everything they can to get people to pay for their stuff instead. So
happy that I changed to Avira.  :)
What do you think ???
Avira is no less than Avast :(
The free version always pops up for purchasing Avira (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-angry002.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: BLADESHARK on May 31, 2012, 07:08 PM
Quote from: katana on May 31, 2012, 08:49 AM
Does Avira also have Site Blocking & Browser Protection?
NO

Quote from: Ahmad on May 31, 2012, 04:12 PM
Here (http://tukero.blogspot.com/2012/05/tnod-user-password-finder-142-final.html).
I guess I will have to use Google translator. :P
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: Shadow.97 on May 31, 2012, 10:26 PM
Quote from: BLADESHARK on May 31, 2012, 07:08 PM
Quote from: katana on May 31, 2012, 08:49 AM
Does Avira also have Site Blocking & Browser Protection?
NO

Quote from: Ahmad on May 31, 2012, 04:12 PM
Here (http://tukero.blogspot.com/2012/05/tnod-user-password-finder-142-final.html).
I guess I will have to use Google translator. :P
ahmad's link is weird.. Nod32 Smart Security blocks it when i enter it.. and spams about blocking an ip and an icon :s.
"ESET Smart Security Access denied Details: Web page: http://tukero.blogspot.com/2012/05/tnod-user-password-finder-142-final.html Comment:Access to the web page was blocked by ESET Smart Security. The web page is on the list of websites with potentially dangerous content."
Are you 100% sure it is safe??  :o
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: Ronsin-ok on May 31, 2012, 10:51 PM
ahmad's link is weird.. Nod32 Smart Security blocks it when i enter it.. and spams about blocking an ip and an icon :s.
"ESET Smart Security Access denied Details: Web page: http://tukero.blogspot.com/2012/05/tnod-user-password-finder-142-final.html (http://tukero.blogspot.com/2012/05/tnod-user-password-finder-142-final.html) Comment:Access to the web page was blocked by ESET Smart Security. The web page is on the list of websites with potentially dangerous content."
Are you 100% sure it is safe??
===========================================================================
Nod32 does that.
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: Bubster on June 01, 2012, 12:16 AM
Quote from: BLADESHARK on May 31, 2012, 07:04 PM
Quote from: Bubster on May 30, 2012, 02:48 PM
Doesn't surprise me a bit. They are hungry for money no, and do everything they can to get people to pay for their stuff instead. So
happy that I changed to Avira.  :)
What do you think ???
Avira is no less than Avast :(
The free version always pops up for purchasing Avira (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-angry002.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

Well, my bad!  :-[
I haven't been using it enough to get the complete feel of it. The reason why I went to Avira was other reviews free anti-virus programs.
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: Ahmad on June 01, 2012, 02:00 AM
Quote from: Shadow.97 on May 31, 2012, 10:26 PM
Are you 100% sure it is safe??  :o

Quote from: Ronsin-ok on May 31, 2012, 10:51 PM
Are you 100% sure it is safe??
Nod32 does that.

YES, it's 100% safe for one enough reason..
This is the site of the key finder's maker, and for that NOD32 blocks it, and for that I mentioned for NOD32 newbies to open it before NOD32 setup, or you can temporarily disable NOD32 AntiVirus protection to open it.

BTW, you can use Google Translate (http://translate.google.com/) to translate the page.

Good luck. ;)
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: Ronsin-ok on June 01, 2012, 05:46 AM
Quote from: Ahmad on June 01, 2012, 02:00 AM
Quote from: Shadow.97 on May 31, 2012, 10:26 PM
Are you 100% sure it is safe??  :o

Quote from: Ronsin-ok on May 31, 2012, 10:51 PM
Are you 100% sure it is safe??
Nod32 does that.

YES, it's 100% safe for one enough reason..
This is the site of the key finder's maker, and for that NOD32 blocks it, and for that I mentioned for NOD32 newbies to open it before NOD32 setup, or you can temporarily disable NOD32 AntiVirus protection to open it.

BTW, you can use Google Translate (http://translate.google.com/) to translate the page.

Good luck. ;)
=========================================================

It's safe, it's just that NOD32 protects itself -first- then protect you.

Here are some links to get NOD32 offline updates.

http://foreclip.blogspot.co.at/2012/05/eset-nod32-update-offline-7173-20120527.html (http://foreclip.blogspot.co.at/2012/05/eset-nod32-update-offline-7173-20120527.html)

http://yourfreeware.com/downloads/info/download_nod32/ (http://yourfreeware.com/downloads/info/download_nod32/)

http://nod32offlineupdate.blogspot.co.at/2010/07/got-nod32-antivirus-or-smart-security.html (http://nod32offlineupdate.blogspot.co.at/2010/07/got-nod32-antivirus-or-smart-security.html)

BTW, Been using NOD32 for years. In version 2.7, I used "Nod32fix" which gave me "64,000   trial days". Now I  use ESET Smart Security 4.2.71.2 with  (PureFix crack)  (by PurplebeanZ).
Been working for almost 2 years.
The only problem I had with ver. 4.2, is on my older computer. If I didn't turn it on in every few weeks, It woulnd't update. That' why I used the offline updates. The links above will give you instructions on how to use it.
Any problems, PM me.
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: Ronsin-ok on June 01, 2012, 06:15 AM
About Microsoft Essentials. It's good, but it spies on you. I use windows defender in XP. Here is part of the log file it makes  Every time you turn on your computer.
=================================================================
Mpcmdrun.log

MpCmdRun: Command Line: "C:\Program Files\Windows Defender\MpCmdRun.exe" -VerifyOSGenuine -RestrictPrivileges -Reinvoke
Start Time: Fri Feb 10 2012 13:09:47
MpIsWindowsGenuine returned trueVerifyOSGenuine returned 0
MpCmdRun: End Time: Fri Feb 10 2012 13:09:48
MpCmdRun: Command Line: "C:\Program Files\Windows Defender\MpCmdRun.exe" -VerifyOSGenuine -RestrictPrivileges -Reinvoke
Start Time: Thu May 31 2012 17:00:43

MpIsWindowsGenuine returned true
VerifyOSGenuine returned 0
MpCmdRun: End Time: Thu May 31 2012 17:00:44

the value 0 means I am genuine.
( I'm have a genuine XP) My Win 7 is not so genuine so I disabled defender there.)

Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: Ahmad on June 01, 2012, 07:00 AM
Quote from: Ronsin-ok on June 01, 2012, 05:46 AM
Here are some links to get NOD32 offline updates.

http://foreclip.blogspot.co.at/2012/05/eset-nod32-update-offline-7173-20120527.html (http://foreclip.blogspot.co.at/2012/05/eset-nod32-update-offline-7173-20120527.html)

http://yourfreeware.com/downloads/info/download_nod32/ (http://yourfreeware.com/downloads/info/download_nod32/)

http://nod32offlineupdate.blogspot.co.at/2010/07/got-nod32-antivirus-or-smart-security.html (http://nod32offlineupdate.blogspot.co.at/2010/07/got-nod32-antivirus-or-smart-security.html)

Thanks for the links. :D

Quote from: Ronsin-ok on June 01, 2012, 05:46 AM
BTW, Been using NOD32 for years. In version 2.7, I used "Nod32fix" which gave me "64,000   trial days". Now I  use ESET Smart Security 4.2.71.2 with  (PureFix crack)  (by PurplebeanZ).
Been working for almost 2 years.
The only problem I had with ver. 4.2, is on my older computer. If I didn't turn it on in every few weeks, It woulnd't update. That' why I used the offline updates. The links above will give you instructions on how to use it.
Any problems, PM me.

Now, I've returned to version 3.0.695 because I hate the "Self Defense" feature in version 4 & 5. Any way, I was disabling it when installing version 4 or 5. Regarding version 4, I didn't like it because it made my computer reboot when disabling ESET Service.. This issue didn't happen with version 3 or 5.

So, the best versions I've used is 3.0.695 & 5.0.95.

Take care. :)
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: Ronsin-ok on June 01, 2012, 07:45 AM
@Ahamd,  I tried Version 5 for a few months, I also did not like it. Version 3 was good, but had problems getting it to automaticaly update. Version 4 just keeps updating itself, so I can spend more time doing on other things.
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: Ahmad on June 02, 2012, 12:14 AM
Quote from: Ronsin-ok on June 01, 2012, 07:45 AM
Version 3 was good, but had problems getting it to automaticaly update.

Strange !!  :o
It works with me very well with no one problem... It updates itself automatically as long as it has valid Username & Password. I like it very much because it's simple.

Version 5 is more advanced and sophisticated with many options, and it's better for more advanced users.

Take care. :)
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: Shadow.97 on June 02, 2012, 03:50 PM
Quote from: Ronsin-ok on June 01, 2012, 07:45 AM
@Ahamd,  I tried Version 5 for a few months, I also did not like it. Version 3 was good, but had problems getting it to automaticaly update. Version 4 just keeps updating itself, so I can spend more time doing on other things.
The things i dont like about my ESET verision is that the firewall can be kind of tricky to portforward, and i cant shut it of permanently :(
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: BLADESHARK on June 02, 2012, 04:01 PM
Quote from: Shadow.97 on June 02, 2012, 03:50 PM
The things i dont like about my ESET verision is that the firewall can be kind of tricky to portforward, and i cant shut it of permanently :(
Is there no option in ESET to allow exceptions? ???
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: Ahmad on June 02, 2012, 04:38 PM
Quote from: BLADESHARK on June 02, 2012, 04:01 PM
Quote from: Shadow.97 on June 02, 2012, 03:50 PM
The things i dont like about my ESET verision is that the firewall can be kind of tricky to portforward, and i cant shut it of permanently :(
Is there no option in ESET to allow exceptions? ???
YES, there is an option to allow exceptions in ESET Smart Security version 4 & 5.
I use uTorrent and I add it in the exception list in the firewall so as to let the port opened permanently.
Just like windows firewall.. when you install uTorrent, it add an exception for itself in windows firewall, and so you must add an exception for it in ESET firewall.
:) :D
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: Shadow.97 on June 02, 2012, 05:06 PM
Quote from: Ahmad on June 02, 2012, 04:38 PM
Quote from: BLADESHARK on June 02, 2012, 04:01 PM
Quote from: Shadow.97 on June 02, 2012, 03:50 PM
The things i dont like about my ESET verision is that the firewall can be kind of tricky to portforward, and i cant shut it of permanently :(
Is there no option in ESET to allow exceptions? ???
YES, there is an option to allow exceptions in ESET Smart Security version 4 & 5.
I use uTorrent and I add it in the exception list in the firewall so as to let the port opened permanently.
Just like windows firewall.. when you install uTorrent, it add an exception for itself in windows firewall, and so you must add an exception for it in ESET firewall.
:) :D
I want to have All ports open in it, as it gets annoying to open 2-3 ports each day
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: Ahmad on June 02, 2012, 08:23 PM
What I used to do with version 5 regarding uTorrent as example is this:
I open port in my router & write the same number of the port in uTorrent.
Then the port should be opened now.... NOT YET.

The last step is to make an exception for uTorrent in ESET Smart Security firewall. Since you add this exception for uTorrent, all connections are allowed for it including the port you have opened for it.

Be sure to choose the type of ESET firewall "Automatic Mode with Exceptions", then add uTorrent in the application exception list and after that its ports will be permanently allowed without doing anything.
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: humbert on June 02, 2012, 11:52 PM
Quote from: Ahmad on June 02, 2012, 08:23 PM
What I used to do with version 5 regarding uTorrent as example is this:
I open port in my router & write the same number of the port in uTorrent.
Then the port should be opened now.... NOT YET

As I recall, you said the router was your neighbor's and he was sharing the connection with you and a few other guys. Does that mean he gave you the login and password, assuming he knows enough not to use the router's default? Don't get me wrong, the problem isn't lack of trust but rather he may think you'll somehow accidentally misconfigure it. Or is it that he know you're knowledgeable enough about all this and accordingly gave you carte blanche to do all the configuration?

Quote from: Ahmad on June 02, 2012, 08:23 PM
The last step is to make an exception for uTorrent in ESET Smart Security firewall. Since you add this exception for uTorrent, all connections are allowed for it including the port you have opened for it.
Be sure to choose the type of ESET firewall "Automatic Mode with Exceptions", then add uTorrent in the application exception list and after that its ports will be permanently allowed without doing anything.

I understand perfectly µTorrent's situation regarding firewalls. I use MSE and Windows own firewall, and upon installation µTorrent always asks for permission to make the proper modifications. What I don't understand is this business of having to open a port on the router. Since I first ran into µTorrent a while back, I've had 3 ISP's, all using routers. Not once have I ever have to change anything in the router for µTorrent to work properly. However, since in all that time I was the only one on the LAN using it, I wonder is there a situation where if you have more than 1 person on the same LAN running µTorrent, if maybe this creates a situation where a different port must be assigned for each user.
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: Shadow.97 on June 03, 2012, 12:36 AM
Quote from: humbert on June 02, 2012, 11:52 PM
Quote from: Ahmad on June 02, 2012, 08:23 PM
What I used to do with version 5 regarding uTorrent as example is this:
I open port in my router & write the same number of the port in uTorrent.
Then the port should be opened now.... NOT YET

As I recall, you said the router was your neighbor's and he was sharing the connection with you and a few other guys. Does that mean he gave you the login and password, assuming he knows enough not to use the router's default? Don't get me wrong, the problem isn't lack of trust but rather he may think you'll somehow accidentally misconfigure it. Or is it that he know you're knowledgeable enough about all this and accordingly gave you carte blanche to do all the configuration?

Quote from: Ahmad on June 02, 2012, 08:23 PM
The last step is to make an exception for uTorrent in ESET Smart Security firewall. Since you add this exception for uTorrent, all connections are allowed for it including the port you have opened for it.
Be sure to choose the type of ESET firewall "Automatic Mode with Exceptions", then add uTorrent in the application exception list and after that its ports will be permanently allowed without doing anything.

I understand perfectly µTorrent's situation regarding firewalls. I use MSE and Windows own firewall, and upon installation µTorrent always asks for permission to make the proper modifications. What I don't understand is this business of having to open a port on the router. Since I first ran into µTorrent a while back, I've had 3 ISP's, all using routers. Not once have I ever have to change anything in the router for µTorrent to work properly. However, since in all that time I was the only one on the LAN using it, I wonder is there a situation where if you have more than 1 person on the same LAN running µTorrent, if maybe this creates a situation where a different port must be assigned for each user.
Hi humbert! If i try downloading without a router port open i get speeds about 1-25 kb/sec, but when it is open i get speeds over 1100 kb/sec, as with my old ZyXEL router i only managed to get speeds at 500 KB/sec
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: Ahmad on June 03, 2012, 12:43 AM
Quote from: humbert on June 02, 2012, 11:52 PM
As I recall, you said the router was your neighbor's and he was sharing the connection with you and a few other guys. Does that mean he gave you the login and password, assuming he knows enough not to use the router's default? Don't get me wrong, the problem isn't lack of trust but rather he may think you'll somehow accidentally misconfigure it. Or is it that he know you're knowledgeable enough about all this and accordingly gave you carte blanche to do all the configuration?
The router is ours [All of us share in everything that the network requires], and all of us know the login & password. We just have to put the router at one of us.

Quote from: humbert on June 02, 2012, 11:52 PM
I understand perfectly µTorrent's situation regarding firewalls. I use MSE and Windows own firewall, and upon installation µTorrent always asks for permission to make the proper modifications. What I don't understand is this business of having to open a port on the router. Since I first ran into µTorrent a while back, I've had 3 ISP's, all using routers. Not once have I ever have to change anything in the router for µTorrent to work properly. However, since in all that time I was the only one on the LAN using it, I wonder is there a situation where if you have more than 1 person on the same LAN running µTorrent, if maybe this creates a situation where a different port must be assigned for each user.

Really I don't understand much about ports, but I managed to know how to open it on my router. Yet, with uTorrent, I found that it works great without opening ports, specially for Downloading. But regarding Uploading [Seeding] function, I think opening port makes uploading faster [with full uploading speed].

That's because I tried seeding in both cases... with port opened >>> Faster.
Regarding download >>> the same in both cases.
:) :D
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: humbert on June 03, 2012, 01:08 AM
Quote from: Ahmad on June 03, 2012, 12:43 AM
The router is ours [All of us share in everything that the network requires], and all of us know the login & password. We just have to put the router at one of us.

Hey night owl  :) -- almost midnight and your eyes are wide open ;) -- as for the router, I was under the impression your neighbor signed up with the ISP under his name and then simply ran LAN cables from the router to all those on it. If it's as you say, then I assume all of you guys chip in equal amounts of money to pay for the service, and that way it won't be a major financial burden for anyone.

Quote from: Ahmad on June 03, 2012, 12:43 AM
Really I don't understand much about ports, but I managed to know how to open it on my router. Yet, with uTorrent, I found that it works great without opening ports, specially for Downloading. But regarding Uploading [Seeding] function, I think opening port makes uploading faster [with full uploading speed].
That's because I tried seeding in both cases... with port opened >>> Faster.
Regarding download >>> the same in both cases.
:) :D

When it comes to computer-related matters, I've gotten to a point where I believe just about anything. If someone told me he had a computer that could fly like a bird, I probably believe him as well :) - While certainly I'll never dispute your findings, what I wonder is why is this not documented anywhere? Anyway, what I'm assuming you did was to go into µTorrent's configuration and told it to use a fixed port number as opposed to one that changes. Then you turned around and configured your computer and the router to work under a static IP address instead of DHCP, which is usually the default. Then you went to port forwarding and opened the port in µTorrent's configuration and redirected it to your IP address. It goes without saying all the other guys on the system did the same thing. 

Is this more or less it?
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: Ahmad on June 03, 2012, 01:56 AM
@ humbert

- Yes, My neighbor signed up with ISP under his name [They need only one to sign up] , but everyone pays the same money like anyone else [Equally].

- Regarding uTorrent ;
First, I use a static IP, write a specific number for port in uTorrent's configuration, go to router's configuration and write the same number and redirect it to my IP address.
This is what I do to open port, but I want to clarify something..

# Nobody other than me does such things on my network.
# Another thing is that if anyone else wants to open port, he can write another number for port knowing that the router can handle up to 15 ports opened.
# Another thing [but I didn't try this] in my router configuration, a single port can be redirected to all IP addresses not only mine, so all users can share the same port by writing the same number in uTorrent's configuration.
:) :D
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: Maher on June 05, 2012, 08:23 AM
Even though the topic is about free anti virus programs, but I had to say Avira Internet Security 2012 is the best program I've ever used.
It's name was Avira Premium Security Suite, now Avira Internet Security.

I've never bought it. And there is always a key that works from months without being black-listed!
I really recommend it!
Title: Antivirus, etc.
Post by: humbert on June 06, 2012, 07:34 AM
Ahmad: Did you mention once that you had a Zytel router and bought another one, or did I misunderstand something? I'm curious because here, it is the ISP who gives you the router as part of the package. Naturally it belongs to them, so if you go with their competitor you either return it in good working order or pay for it. Even if you went out and bought one yourself (which they allow), it makes no sense because you won't be saving any money. How is it over there when it comes to getting a router?

Chief: Concerning Avira, how is it on system resources? Also, if it's that good, how much do they charge yearly for being able to download their virus definitions? It might even be worth while if the proggie is good enough and the price is reasonable, as opposed to this headache of chasing down keys.
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: Ahmad on June 06, 2012, 02:05 PM
@ humbert. :)

Sorry, I don't understand "Zytel".. Is it some brand or what?  If it's so, then our router is TPLink.
Anyway, When my neighbor signed up with ISP , we brought a new router on our own.
Sometimes, the ISP makes offers to present a router for free when signing up, and it'll be yours even if you left them after a few months, but this is from time to time.
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: humbert on June 07, 2012, 07:24 AM
Quote from: Ahmad on June 06, 2012, 02:05 PM
Sorry, I don't understand "Zytel".. Is it some brand or what?  If it's so, then our router is TPLink.
Anyway, When my neighbor signed up with ISP , we brought a new router on our own.
Sometimes, the ISP makes offers to present a router for free when signing up, and it'll be yours even if you left them after a few months, but this is from time to time.

Zytel is a brand name. I could have sworn I heard you say it. Apparently I was mistaken.

So over there, if they don't offer a router, you have to run out and buy it? To put it another way, is this a situation where all they do is pretty much give you a wire which has a live internet connection, and you take it from there?
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: Ahmad on June 07, 2012, 08:23 PM
Quote from: humbert on June 07, 2012, 07:24 AM
So over there, if they don't offer a router, you have to run out and buy it?
Yes, I must buy it if they don't offer ... Like we did.

Quote from: humbert on June 07, 2012, 07:24 AM
To put it another way, is this a situation where all they do is pretty much give you a wire which has a live internet connection, and you take it from there?
They give me the connection through the telephone line wire..
They set up some splitter on the telephone wire to give 2 new wires.. one for the telephone and the other for the router. Then they enter some data on the router to adjust to receive their internet signals.
Of course, this is done by co-operating with telephone lines company.

This is the way that we all here are connected to the internet.. through telephone lines as they are the only media here to connect all of us. WiFi is not common, yet. Also, we don't have fiber.
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: humbert on June 08, 2012, 01:43 AM
Quote from: Ahmad on June 07, 2012, 08:23 PM
They give me the connection through the telephone line wire..
They set up some splitter on the telephone wire to give 2 new wires.. one for the telephone and the other for the router. Then they enter some data on the router to adjust to receive their internet signals.
Of course, this is done by co-operating with telephone lines company.
This is the way that we all here are connected to the internet.. through telephone lines as they are the only media here to connect all of us. WiFi is not common, yet. Also, we don't have fiber.

Now I understand perfectly what is going on. I suppose my remaining question is if they give you a list of what routers are compatible with their system, or will just about anything do? I'm asking this because, with my ISP, customers also have the option of buying it, BUT it MUST be one on their list. This is even more true for me because of the speed I'm paying for. Mine has to support the DOCSIS 3.0 protocol, which permits the use of various channels coming down and just one going up. Without this setup, my speed is simply not possible.

As for fiber, I remember years ago as a very young man in Miami, they were tearing up the street to install the copper coaxial cables you have in order to put cable TV (no internet at that time). 20 years later they dug up the same streets to install fiber. I even asked the guys what would happen to the old cables. He said they would just leave them there, to be found by achaelolgists in the far distant future. :)  Naturally, both there and in SA, fiber is only to the company's pedestal in the street, from there to my house is a regular coax cable.
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: Ahmad on June 08, 2012, 03:28 AM
Quote from: humbert on June 08, 2012, 01:43 AM
I suppose my remaining question is if they give you a list of what routers are compatible with their system, or will just about anything do?

Sorry, I didn't notice that.
Actually, I don't know if they require specific types or what because it's my neighbor who took care of such things.
Anyway, our router is the most common brand here, and we have only 2 ISP , so without asking anyone.. as long as this router is common, then it's valid.
Title: Re: Antivirus, etc.
Post by: Maher on June 13, 2012, 03:25 PM
Quote from: humbert on June 06, 2012, 07:34 AM
Chief: Concerning Avira, how is it on system resources? Also, if it's that good, how much do they charge yearly for being able to download their virus definitions? It might even be worth while if the proggie is good enough and the price is reasonable, as opposed to this headache of chasing down keys.
I've never bought it :) I told you, I use keys from the net and they last so so long that I change it only two or three time every year!
Anyway, I just checked their website, it says $51.99 http://www.avira.com/en/for-home-avira-internet-security

Regarding system resources: just awesome! Nothing compared to Kaspersky or NOD ;)
Title: Re: Antivirus, etc.
Post by: humbert on June 14, 2012, 02:00 AM
Quote from: Maher on June 13, 2012, 03:25 PM
Quote from: humbert on June 06, 2012, 07:34 AM
Chief: Concerning Avira, how is it on system resources? Also, if it's that good, how much do they charge yearly for being able to download their virus definitions? It might even be worth while if the proggie is good enough and the price is reasonable, as opposed to this headache of chasing down keys.
I've never bought it :) I told you, I use keys from the net and they last so so long that I change it only two or three time every year!
Anyway, I just checked their website, it says $51.99 http://www.avira.com/en/for-home-avira-internet-security
Regarding system resources: just awesome! Nothing compared to Kaspersky or NOD ;)

I thought the yearly price for updates was a little more reasonable than just this. If you're not having that much of a headache getting keys, then certainly it makes no sense to buy it.
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: Ahmad on June 15, 2012, 05:46 PM
@ humbert.
Hey buddy. :)

Finally, I gave Microsoft Security Essentials a try ..
Really, I liked it because it's as you told me:
- Very light on my slow PC, same as NOD32.
- Very simple, yet has the most important option of exclusion.
- Plus, free with offline updates.

But I'm still worried about its efficiency, because I noticed that I can stop its service manually and so can the virus !!   i.e.  It can't fully protect itself.

Regarding Avira, I tried it.. It's good and has many options to control it as you want, but it's not for me because it's heavy on MY SLOW PC.

So, I'll try MSE for a while and then decide, but I think I'll return to ESET NOD32 AntiVirus because I'm very satisfied with it.. It's light and does everything I want without any issues. The only disadvantage of it is that it's not free, but this is very easy.. It's being done without annoyance.

I'm just telling my opinion and findings on MY SLOW PC, so may others differ with me.
Thanks and take care.  :D
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: humbert on June 16, 2012, 01:35 AM
Quote from: Ahmad on June 15, 2012, 05:46 PM
@ humbert.
Hey buddy. :)
Finally, I gave Microsoft Security Essentials a try ..
Really, I liked it because it's as you told me:
- Very light on my slow PC, same as NOD32.
- Very simple, yet has the most important option of exclusion.
- Plus, free with offline updates.
But I'm still worried about its efficiency, because I noticed that I can stop its service manually and so can the virus !!   i.e.  It can't fully protect itself.

As you already know by now, there is no "best antivirus" or best anything, for that matter. Everything out there has it's advantages and disadvantages, and in that ocean of choices we all have to decide what's best for us. I'm thinking the reason I like MSE is simply because I haven't run into any major viruses and because, although it's now not the default, you can still set it to alert you before taking action. This prevents it from killing off false positives such as cracks and patches. I'd have to have a major problem with it before I install something else.
Title: Re: Antivirus, etc.
Post by: Maher on June 19, 2012, 09:25 PM
Quote from: humbert on June 14, 2012, 02:00 AM
I thought the yearly price for updates was a little more reasonable than just this. If you're not having that much of a headache getting keys, then certainly it makes no sense to buy it.
I told you, I don't mind the price because I never had to buy it :)
So easy to have a key that works for at least 6 months :)
Let me know if you wanna try it, I'll send you a working key.
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: BLADESHARK on June 21, 2012, 03:30 PM
Hey Maher
I am also using Avira internet security.
Can you please forward the key ;) ;D
Thanks in advance for the key and the Torrent of your great Windows 7 :)
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: katana on June 24, 2012, 09:36 AM
Quote from: Shadow.97 on May 31, 2012, 01:22 PM
Tip, get WoT(Web Of Trust) in my opinion its great, but siteblocking, do you really want to controll people that much. In my opinion the internet should be.... Free!

No.  ::) It's only so she won't inadvertently open infected sites. Less hassle for me makes me happy.  ;) Besides, she's 13 years older than me, I'm sure she wouldn't appreciate it if I go on blocking sites for her!
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: katana on June 24, 2012, 09:43 AM
Quote from: BLADESHARK on June 21, 2012, 03:30 PM
Hey Maher
I am also using Avira internet security.
Can you please forward the key ;) ;D

Yup, pls! Can you send me the key, too? Thanx!
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: humbert on June 25, 2012, 05:50 AM
Quote from: katana on June 24, 2012, 09:36 AM
Quote from: Shadow.97 on May 31, 2012, 01:22 PM
Tip, get WoT(Web Of Trust) in my opinion its great, but siteblocking, do you really want to controll people that much. In my opinion the internet should be.... Free!
No.  ::) It's only so she won't inadvertently open infected sites. Less hassle for me makes me happy.  ;) Besides, she's 13 years older than me, I'm sure she wouldn't appreciate it if I go on blocking sites for her!

For anyone who's interested in simply defending themselves from bad sites, check Firefox's add-ons. Out of curiosity I opened their page and did a search under "Web of Trust" I found oodles of add-ons specifically for this purpose.

Nothing beats Firefox and that's the bottom line.
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: humbert on June 25, 2012, 06:59 AM
Quote from: Tovagulet on June 25, 2012, 06:35 AM
In my old computer I liked to use Microsoft Security Essentials. It was good... Did his job.
But now im currently using McAffee

Isn't McAfee taxing on resources and intrusive? I can't stand programs that are like that.
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: Daniil on July 06, 2012, 07:01 PM
Well, comrades, I read whole tread... Why nobody said about Comodo Antivirus? It`s free, it`s effective, it`s reliable, works great on any platforms, from Win2000 to W2k8 Server. Three years ago it helped me defeat Conflicker(Kido) on Win2k3 big corporate server - and it`s only one of free antiviruses, wich works well on server platforms and can kill Kido.

For home usage, in my opinion, AVG is the best. For a time, I used Kaspersky Antivirus (with license it is very effective), but since 2012 use AVG. Kaspersky 2012 works very slow even on very powerful PCs.
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: fankoosh on July 08, 2012, 11:54 AM
i would recommend for all windows 7 & Xp a light easy & crackable antivirus & best one on the internet wish is ESET NOD32 antivirus 5 version 5.2.9.1 & its crack TNOD 1.4.2.1final works best & grab keys & check their expiery always & keeps your pc cleaend from any threats & all types of viruses , worms , trojans ..etc , this is not an advertisment :) , but it is a recommendation & advice for helping only , thanx for support windows OS
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: Daniil on July 08, 2012, 04:46 PM
Quotelight easy & crackable antivirus & best one on the internet wish is ESET NOD32 antivirus 5 version 5.2.9.1 & its crack TNOD 1.4.2.1final
I think that NOD32 is just another typical antivirus. It's fast, but with its own weaknesses. And, btw, here we talking about free AV, and NOD32, in fact, is not so freeware.  ;)
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: fankoosh on July 08, 2012, 05:03 PM
Quote from: Daniil on July 08, 2012, 04:46 PM
Quotelight easy & crackable antivirus & best one on the internet wish is ESET NOD32 antivirus 5 version 5.2.9.1 & its crack TNOD 1.4.2.1final
I think that NOD32 is just another typical antivirus. It's fast, but with its own weaknesses. And, btw, here we talking about free AV, and NOD32, in fact, is not so freeware.  ;)

free antivirus will not provide any type of any protection against real harmful threats that spoil ur pc & screw it , & other thing as long as any software or any prog is crackable or has a serial that works continiosly so i would recommend it & u will not spend any money for that , personally i am using it , i am stating this , coz nowdays real threats & viruses & many kinds of threats r roaming & floating over internet & poor free antivirus will be uneffective to protect & fight against those threats , finally it is up to everyone & it is ur choise , it was just a help , thanx
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: Daniil on July 08, 2012, 05:18 PM
Yes, you are right that it`s personal choise. But I think that free antiviruses may protect as well as shareware. And, with some type of viruses and rootkits, none of AV can helps you. Sometimes, i heared a phrase that main antivirus is in user's head.
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: Ahmad on July 09, 2012, 12:32 AM
I was using ESET for more than 6 years. I like it very much.

But recently, I tried Microsoft Security Essentials (Recommended by humbert and BLADESHARK) , Avira (Recommended by Maher) and AVG (Recommended by Daniil).

Avira is very good but my PC is slow and can't run it well.
MSE is light on my PC but with no many options.
AVG is also light on my PC and it worked well.

But I'm not sure about any program's strength. I think all do the required job. The important thing is what you like.

I like the Lightness and so much advanced options of ESET NOD32 version 5.2.9.1 specially the HIPS option, so I returned back to it as I was.
Anyway, I never complained of it.

I respect any other opinion because everyone sees other things I can't see.
Thanks for all of you, guys.  :)
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: humbert on July 10, 2012, 01:53 AM
Quote from: Ahmad on July 09, 2012, 12:32 AM
MSE is light on my PC but with no many options.

I'm curious about something - what options would you like MSE to have that it doesn't have now?
Title: Re: Free Antivirus
Post by: Ahmad on July 10, 2012, 11:45 PM
Quote from: humbert on July 10, 2012, 01:53 AM
I'm curious about something - what options would you like MSE to have that it doesn't have now?

MSE is very good, but it lacks the options I used to use with ESET NOD32.
If you use ESET NOD32, you'll see the huge difference of allowed options.
You can control every bit of appearance and work of the program and I love that.

Some may see that as bloated, but I like the full control on the program.
You may say that I can't change ESET NOD32 any more.