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Dear friends! (кomяadeз!...  ;D)
What is (in your opinion) is the best free e-mail client for SO/HO applications?
I had used russian origin "The Bat" (it's very good but too old and not free), also for corporate application M$ Outlook is very good (easy to make backups and restore mail databases, but also not free).
What other options you can offer? (and please describe why you choose this specific mail client?)

Are those clients like Mozilla Thunderbird ?

If so, and if I choose to try one, I'll try Thunderbird first.
But for now, I haven't used any E-Mail clients. I rarely need to see my E-Mails except for registering in a site.  ???

I'll try Thunderbird just because I trust Mozilla exactly like I love Firefox.

Quote from: Ahmad on November 20, 2012, 01:17 PM
Are those clients like Mozilla Thunderbird ?

If so, and if I choose to try one, I'll try Thunderbird first.

Yes they are.  :D Bat is more fancy and "overtuned", Outlook is more... well... "microsofty".  ;D

Quote from: Ahmad on November 20, 2012, 01:17 PM
But for now, I haven't used any E-Mail clients. I rarely need to see my E-Mails except for registering in a site.  ???

Well, in this project I need precisely a mail client - some software/hardware systems will report financional info by a emails, and that info must not be at public mailservice mailbox for long. A client will download it fast and will keep it safe.

Quote from: Ahmad on November 20, 2012, 01:17 PM
I'll try Thunderbird just because I trust Mozilla exactly like I love Firefox.

Me too. I think that the Mozilla is the best browser today.
Thanks, dear friend. I'm downloading Thunderbird.
Any other ideas? (Btw, it's very quiet on forum at last month. Are all fall down to winter sleeping?..  ???)

Quote from: Daniil on November 20, 2012, 01:39 PM
(Btw, it's very quiet on forum at last month. Are all fall down to winter sleeping?..  ???)

May be.  ;D
For me, It's the college and monthly exams that made me busier than before.
:)

As much as I may love Firefox, I don't like Thunderbird at all. Just for starters I've had all kinds of problems with it when it comes to saving attachments. Also, I'm not all that sure why this thing keeps asking us to browse an install attachments. An e-mail client is not a browser, and as I see it a good client should simply have no use for them.

The e-mail client that came with Windows 8 is good if you don't save your messages locally in msg format, as I do. I've also noticed it's a little buggy and does things it shouldn't be doing. I use it only because it's easy to get in and out of. Fortunately, since all my e-mail is set up as IMAP, if for whatever reason some situation arises that the Windows 8 client can't handle, then I go to Microsoft Outlook and do what needs to be done.

There are gazillions of e-mail programs out there, many of them freeware. If anyone knows of one that supports IMAP, has no problems with attachments or HTML and allows you to save e-mails locally as opposed to this garbage of saving them in the cloud , I'm open to recommendations.

I've been using TrulyMail for years. I used to use Thunderbird but didn't like that I needed add-ons to do what I wanted. TrulyMail is free and is really feature rich. Only downside is that it only runs on Windows (but I only use Windows so that's fine for me).

Thanks for sharing, Samantha.
:) :D

Yes, I absolutely agree - thanks so much for sharing the information.  :) ;)  I had no idea an e-mail client such as this one even existed, and freeware!

It's hard to imagine how much good stuff is available for free. Sumatra is a classic example. Someone else here on the forum suggested it, and in all honesty I have yet to see a better PDF reader. Not only that, it can also read other formats such as epub, djvu, mobi, xps and chm seamlessly. Before the tip about Sumatra was posted, not only was I was using the far more bloated Foxit Reader, but I also had to have another reader for the other formats. If only Sumatra's developers could get the thing to do basic editing also!

OK, friends.
Back to e-mail clients. I compare many of them (Outlook, Bat, Thunderbird, FoxMail and some others) and... At the end I selected Thunderbird.
Why so?
Well, before start of comparing I had a prepossession against Thunderbird. That was because some years ago I tried to set up Thunderbird (one of the very first versions) to work on my PC on Win Vista 64 (yeah, that was a times!). At that time Thunderbird gives me a bunch of glitches and don't want to work. Also I was scared by it interface, looking like a hand-made table (made with bare and rough wood and a nuts and bolts from truck) at my grandfather's house!
So, now I installing Thunderbird with some hidden fears. But modern Thunderbird is very different from old one and at this time setted up well! Interface of it looks very similar to my favorite "The Bat", it saves messages in its own database which is not need any special tweaks (not like in "The Bat" and that's good in fact!). It can easy make a filters for incoming mail, and have an included antispam already. I can say that now Thunderbird is a good mail client.

But - some "contra":
I set it up on x86 system. Don't know how it's going on x64. On Vista x64 some years ago it throws feeria of glitches...
Can't say anything about antispam - at this my project I set up mail system to get ONLY mails from one address and with special code in the text, so mail manager just throw other mails to scratch.

@ humbert
Comrade, may I ask? Why you save your messages as .msg-files? I think it's non-technologic. A database with all mails (like in Outlook) is much more efficient.

@ Ahmad
Yeah, yeah, I also starting to prepare to winter session at my Institute. This, and work around my projects is cause of my rare coming to our forum. And what you mean "monthly exams"? Are you examinating every month in your colledge?

@ Samantha
Thanks for sharing, friend, and welcome to us.  :) Where are you from, how long you worknig with computers?

Quote from: Daniil on November 28, 2012, 09:34 AM
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@ Ahmad
Yeah, yeah, I also starting to prepare to winter session at my Institute. This, and work around my projects is cause of my rare coming to our forum. And what you mean "monthly exams"? Are you examinating every month in your colledge?
...

Something like that.
When finishing a chapter or a part, they examine us in this part. At the end of the year, the exam will be on the whole book.

@Danill - one thing I never liked about Thunderbird is the "need" to look for and install add-ons. As I see it, they make perfect sense in a browser, but not in an e-mail program. Another problem I had with Thunderbird is saving attachments. One time when I was testing it, someone sent me some photos. In any other program you could simply save these as jpg files to a directory. For some reason I couldn't do this with Thunderbird. Fortunately it was set up for IMAP, that way I simply brought up Outlook and retrieved the photos with no problem.

The reason I like saving important messages in msg format is simply because that way I can put them in the correct directories. Messages from vendors about recent purchases are saved in my purchases directory. Important messages from friends are saved in friends directory, and so on. Also, with a very lightweight Total Commander add-on I can easily read the messages by going to the file and pressing F3. If I were to save them in Outlook - or worse, on the cloud - I would go absolutely bonkers.

@ humbert
Well, after installation of modern Thunderbird I had no need to install any add-on. All important things are already included. About attachments can't say anything.

Well,it's your choice, and I understand your commitment to organizing mail, but... On any message you execute next steps: open -> select "Save" command -> select where to save -> saving, then for open you must open Total, open folder, press F3... That's too long (as for me). Modern mail clients allow to save mails in folder inside their database, this method is faster and simpler. You have folders inside a client.
Or you trying to avoid problems with database crash by saving mails in .msg format?

Quote from: Daniil on November 29, 2012, 09:58 AM
@ humbert
Well, after installation of modern Thunderbird I had no need to install any add-on. All important things are already included. About attachments can't say anything.

I had a problem saving attachments in Thunderbird. Maybe it was an old version or I didn't have it properly configured. How do you do it>

Quote from: Daniil on November 29, 2012, 09:58 AM
Well,it's your choice, and I understand your commitment to organizing mail, but... On any message you execute next steps: open -> select "Save" command -> select where to save -> saving, then for open you must open Total, open folder, press F3... That's too long (as for me). Modern mail clients allow to save mails in folder inside their database, this method is faster and simpler. You have folders inside a client.
Or you trying to avoid problems with database crash by saving mails in .msg format?

I'm familiar with the way you're telling me about saving important e-mails because I've seen many people do it. I like saving e-mails specifically outside the e-mail client simply because in a folder I create for a specific situation, not only do I insert e-mails, but also pics, documents and all other important stuff - all in one place. This makes it a lot easier for me in the sense that all the necessary information is in one place and not scattered all over. Also, I have the option of either using a viewer for the msg's or double clicking and opening them in Outlook or whatever program they're from. Saving them inside the e-mail client would drive me crazy, and add to this that maybe I might have been using something other than Outlook, so I'd have to go one by one.

BTW, does Thunderbird also offer the option of saving e-mails externally?

Quote from: humbert on November 30, 2012, 09:04 PM
I had a problem saving attachments in Thunderbird. Maybe it was an old version or I didn't have it properly configured. How do you do it>

I getting only a .txt or .csv attachments, and they are only one per message. It's very easy to save it, just right click and select "Save as...". But I don't know how it'll be done with a multiple attachments.

Quote from: humbert on November 30, 2012, 09:04 PM
I'm familiar with the way you're telling me about saving important e-mails because I've seen many people do it. I like saving e-mails specifically outside the e-mail client simply because in a folder I create for a specific situation, not only do I insert e-mails, but also pics, documents and all other important stuff - all in one place. This makes it a lot easier for me in the sense that all the necessary information is in one place and not scattered all over. Also, I have the option of either using a viewer for the msg's or double clicking and opening them in Outlook or whatever program they're from. Saving them inside the e-mail client would drive me crazy, and add to this that maybe I might have been using something other than Outlook, so I'd have to go one by one.

BTW, does Thunderbird also offer the option of saving e-mails externally?

O-oh, yes, yes, I understand you. That's also a good way to deal with mails.

No, I didn't see such option, at least in the main menus. Maybe it exists somewhere deep in Thunderbird, but I haven't find it.

Unless I didn't do something right, even saving a jpg in Thunderbird was impossible. Fortunately it was IMAP so the message wasn't deleted. I had to go back into it using Outlook in order to save the jpgs.

I have a problem in my Thunderbird, the mails that arrive as Spam in Hotmail.com dont reach my Thunderbird, really annoying when registrating on a website.
Also, you can easily have more than one email account set up with Thunderbird i use 7 mail accounts on my Thunderbird, and one master password to access Thunderbird.

Quote from: Shadow.97 on January 03, 2013, 01:01 PM
I have a problem in my Thunderbird, the mails that arrive as Spam in Hotmail.com dont reach my Thunderbird, really annoying when registrating on a website.
Also, you can easily have more than one email account set up with Thunderbird i use 7 mail accounts on my Thunderbird, and one master password to access Thunderbird.

I've used Microsoft Outlook forever because I haven't found anything better. Sadly, Outlook 2013 is buggier than a roach-infested house.

I think my dad uses the one from 1996-98  ::)

I'm beginning to think that finding an e-mail program that does only e-mail and nothing else, supports IMAP and downloading attachments, and will allow you to save the e-mails to your hard drive is about as easy as finding an answer to inflation.

Maybe I should give Incredimail a look. I used it years ago but haven't done so in a while.