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Started by humbert, December 12, 2023, 05:20 AM
Quote from: humbert on December 12, 2023, 05:20 AMI thought I'd ask you guys your opinion on this issue because, honestly, I don't know what to think.As of today's date the world press is full of news concerning what is going on in Gaza. Just about all news agencies deliver editorialized reports. That makes it harder to form an opinion. So here we go.As I've mentioned many times on here, I am no fan of Israel. The Israelis are parasites in how they use the United States to their advantage. They also build illegal settlements in the West Bank and are quick to abuse Palestinians. Despite all this and despite what's being reported in the world press, I'm thinking this time with Gaza they just might be right.This crisis began when Israel was rocket-attacked on Oct 7th. Any country will immediately react militarily when such a thing happens. Gaza is tiny. Hamas has nowhere to hide. They have no choice but to hide among the civilian population and put civilians in harms way. Even if Gaza were bigger it makes no sense to separate their bases from the civilian population. Doing so would make them targets and Israel would promptly obliterate them. If all this is correct, then who exactly is responsible for the killing of innocents in Gaza?
Quote from: scarface on December 13, 2023, 04:59 PMThis problem is not new. The book « A qui la palestine ? » (who owns Paestine?) written jean pierre migeon in 1970, explains that Palestine had a tumultuous history as a crossroads for religion, culture, commerce. This territory is unique due to its historical significance.
Quote from: humbert on December 14, 2023, 05:54 AMQuote from: scarface on December 13, 2023, 04:59 PMThis problem is not new. The book « A qui la palestine ? » (who owns Paestine?) written jean pierre migeon in 1970, explains that Palestine had a tumultuous history as a crossroads for religion, culture, commerce. This territory is unique due to its historical significance.I'm aware of long history that area has had for well over 2,000 years. But that's not what my post was about. As you know, I don't exactly like Israel. Yet from what I'm seeing and despite the endless criticism in the world press, I can't help but believe that this time they're right. Hamas must blend with the civilian population because there is nowhere else to hide. They knew this perfectly when they started their rocket attacks on October 7th. Who then is responsible for the endless killing of innocent civilians? Or did the leaders of Hamas believe they could launch all their rockets without provoking a military response?Is there anyone on the forum who disagrees or believes my facts are wrong? If so, please speak up.
Quote from: scarface on December 14, 2023, 08:14 PMFor the Hamas leaders, Israel is not legitimate, and it is a territory to be reconquered. They don't accept the 1949 armistice lines between Israel and its Arab neighbors, which for the first time divided Jerusalem into eastern and western sectors and created the West Bank and Gaza as geopolitical entities. In this context, it's difficult to solve that problem. Strangely enough, the Hamas leaders are not present in the Gaza strip to elaborate a solution. Some live in luxury hotel suites in Qatar. Those who are still in Gaza are either civilians of fighters.