What kind of meat (or cheese) is it?

Started by scarface, October 11, 2015, 05:02 PM

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Vasudev

Quote from: humbert on November 01, 2015, 11:32 PM
Quote from: Vasudev on October 30, 2015, 03:43 PM
I eat 2 chicken eggs every 2 days and also fish meat in small amounts. I was bored of eating meat frequently, so I stopped eating it.

Do you live with a family where a common meal is prepared for everyone? If so then how do you deal with others not sharing your views when it comes to meat, or anything else for that matter? This is my situation.
Common meal is served and its not that they want meat frequently as I did in the past, meat serving for other members of the family use a minimal amount. At first, they were shocked and accepted it later.

scarface

Well, I stumbled upon an article about eggs and it made me think about the message posted by Vasudev on the forum. This article is in French, but you can translate it with google, currently I don't have the courage to translate it, but if someone does, I will put the translation. I guess the proficiency in French of certain users, like humbert or little iih might be sufficient to understand this article, even though it's using technical terms.


Manger des Å"ufs tue. Peut-être verra-t-on bientôt cette inscription sur les boîtes d’Å"ufs: selon une étude canadienne publiée le 13 août, consommer du jaune d’Å"uf serait presque aussi nocif pour la santé que fumer. Le Dr David Spence, de la Western University, a étudié les effets du jaune d’Å"uf sur 1.200 patients et en a conclu que manger cette partie grasse de l’Å"uf augmenterait le risque d’athéro-sclérose, qui se caractérise par le dépôt d’une plaque de lipides sur la paroi des artères, pouvant entraîner leur obstruction.

Selon les scientifiques, le risque de développer une athéro-sclérose pour les mangeurs de jaune d’Å"uf serait seulement inférieure d’un tiers à celui des fumeurs. Les 1.231 personnes étudiées, hommes et femmes âgés de 61,5 ans en moyenne, sont des patients d’une clinique de prévention des maladies cardio-vasculaires à Londres. Les médecins ont observé une corrélation entre l’épaisseur de la plaque de lipides présente dans leurs artères et leur consommation de jaunes d’Å"ufs et de cigarettes.
Le cholestérol en cause

Au-dessus de trois Å"ufs par semaine, les risques augmentent significativement: «Nous savons depuis longtemps qu’un taux élevé de cholestérol augmente les risques de maladies cardiovasculaires, explique le Dr David Spence. Les jaunes d’Å"ufs sont riches en cholestérol et pour les diabétiques un Å"uf par jour peut multiplier par deux, et même parfois par cinq, les risques coronariens.» D’autres recherches seront menées pour prendre en compte de nouveaux éléments comme le poids des patients ou leur activité physique, mais les médecins recommandent d’ores et déjà aux personnes à risque de ne pas consommer de jaunes d’Å"ufs.

Selon l’Institut national de la santé et de la recherche médicale (Inserm), les facteurs les plus importants d’arthéro-sclérose sont les excès de cholestérol et de triglycérides, l’hypertension artérielle, l’obésité, le diabète mais aussi le tabac, le stress et la sédentarité. Des prédispositions génétiques peuvent aussi favoriser son apparition. En 2007, une équipe de chercheurs français avait démontré que l'exposition à la pollution atmosphérique parisienne affectait également la paroi des vaisseaux sanguins

Vasudev

Quote from: scarface on November 02, 2015, 10:59 PM
Well, I stumbled upon an article about eggs and it made me think about the message posted by Vasudev on the forum. This article is in French, but you can translate it with google, currently I don't have the courage to translate it, but if someone does, I will put the translation. I guess the proficiency in French of certain users, like humbert or little iih might be sufficient to understand this article, even though it's using technical terms.


Manger des Å"ufs tue. Peut-être verra-t-on bientôt cette inscription sur les boîtes d’Å"ufs: selon une étude canadienne publiée le 13 août, consommer du jaune d’Å"uf serait presque aussi nocif pour la santé que fumer. Le Dr David Spence, de la Western University, a étudié les effets du jaune d’Å"uf sur 1.200 patients et en a conclu que manger cette partie grasse de l’Å"uf augmenterait le risque d’athéro-sclérose, qui se caractérise par le dépôt d’une plaque de lipides sur la paroi des artères, pouvant entraîner leur obstruction.

Selon les scientifiques, le risque de développer une athéro-sclérose pour les mangeurs de jaune d’Å"uf serait seulement inférieure d’un tiers à celui des fumeurs. Les 1.231 personnes étudiées, hommes et femmes âgés de 61,5 ans en moyenne, sont des patients d’une clinique de prévention des maladies cardio-vasculaires à Londres. Les médecins ont observé une corrélation entre l’épaisseur de la plaque de lipides présente dans leurs artères et leur consommation de jaunes d’Å"ufs et de cigarettes.
Le cholestérol en cause

Au-dessus de trois Å"ufs par semaine, les risques augmentent significativement: «Nous savons depuis longtemps qu’un taux élevé de cholestérol augmente les risques de maladies cardiovasculaires, explique le Dr David Spence. Les jaunes d’Å"ufs sont riches en cholestérol et pour les diabétiques un Å"uf par jour peut multiplier par deux, et même parfois par cinq, les risques coronariens.» D’autres recherches seront menées pour prendre en compte de nouveaux éléments comme le poids des patients ou leur activité physique, mais les médecins recommandent d’ores et déjà aux personnes à risque de ne pas consommer de jaunes d’Å"ufs.

Selon l’Institut national de la santé et de la recherche médicale (Inserm), les facteurs les plus importants d’arthéro-sclérose sont les excès de cholestérol et de triglycérides, l’hypertension artérielle, l’obésité, le diabète mais aussi le tabac, le stress et la sédentarité. Des prédispositions génétiques peuvent aussi favoriser son apparition. En 2007, une équipe de chercheurs français avait démontré que l'exposition à la pollution atmosphérique parisienne affectait également la paroi des vaisseaux sanguins
@scarface:How do you type french w/o any errors? Yes I get it, eat more eggs is bad for health in the long run.

humbert

@Vasu - I was under the impression you stopped eating meat because you're a Hindu. As far as I know Hindus aren't allowed to eat meat. Pls correct me if I'm wrong.

You asked Scarface how he typed French with no errors. I realize the question is for him, but I don't know what you mean.

Vasudev

Quote from: humbert on November 04, 2015, 04:17 AM
@Vasu - I was under the impression you stopped eating meat because you're a Hindu. As far as I know Hindus aren't allowed to eat meat. Pls correct me if I'm wrong.

You asked Scarface how he typed French with no errors. I realize the question is for him, but I don't know what you mean.
Nah, if you belong to brahmin(which comes under Hindu religion) in simple words: Those who offer pujas to Gods aren't allowed to eat meat,onion & garlic. I don't belong to that sect. Normally my daily routine was to have 4-5 meat pieces each day.

humbert

Quote from: Vasudev on November 05, 2015, 01:21 PM
Nah, if you belong to brahmin(which comes under Hindu religion) in simple words: Those who offer pujas to Gods aren't allowed to eat meat,onion & garlic. I don't belong to that sect. Normally my daily routine was to have 4-5 meat pieces each day.

First, if you feel these questions should be moved to another topic, please go ahead and move them.

Then only Brahmins offer pujas to gods? Other castes don't and can therefore eat meat? You told me what your caste was. I looked it up and you were way up there, maybe not as high as a Brahmin.

I keep seeing on National Geographic countless pictures of sacred cows walking the streets. If indeed this is true and if eating meat is OK for non-Brahmins, then how is it those cows haven't been eaten?

Meat 4-5 times a day is a lot! Unhealthy at those quantities.

Vasudev

Quote from: humbert on November 05, 2015, 11:26 PM
Quote from: Vasudev on November 05, 2015, 01:21 PM
Nah, if you belong to brahmin(which comes under Hindu religion) in simple words: Those who offer pujas to Gods aren't allowed to eat meat,onion & garlic. I don't belong to that sect. Normally my daily routine was to have 4-5 meat pieces each day.

Then only Brahmins offer pujas to gods? Other castes don't and can therefore eat meat? You told me what your caste was. I looked it up and you were way up there, maybe not as high as a Brahmin.

I keep seeing on National Geographic countless pictures of sacred cows walking the streets. If indeed this is true and if eating meat is OK for non-Brahmins, then how is it those cows haven't been eaten?

Meat 4-5 times a day is a lot! Unhealthy at those quantities.
Those who Offer pujas inside a temple aren't allowed to eat said things.
At my place, people eat beaf, according to holy scriptures, cow shouldn't be killed because its seen as a  deity.
Its Unhealthly I know, but when you walk around 1-2km everyday you need that quantity. Mind you, even after eating so much, I am slim as ever bo fat deposit whatsoever(pun intended).

scarface

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Quote@scarface:How do you type french w/o any errors?
It's just a question of habit.
The article in French was a copied/pasted of a report found in a newspaper. Generally speaking, French is a complex language and it's particularly difficult to master the accents and the gender/number agreements. In English as well as French, a letter s is added in the plural (une orange, des oranges), but there are many exceptions (un cheval, des chevaux)
The spelling checker can distinguish misspelled words, but not the grammar errors.

We have seen that eating eggs regularly was dangerous. Vasudev did not precise it, but of course we assumed he was talking about chicken eggs and not about lumpfish roe (the word "oeufs" is used in both cases in French)


While egg yolks and liver contain large amounts of cholesterol, many foods like fruit, vegetables, and fish are quite low in cholesterol.

Vasudev

#18
Quote from: scarface on November 07, 2015, 11:14 AM
Quote@scarface:How do you type french w/o any errors?
It's just a question of habit.
The article in French was a copied/pasted of a report found in a newspaper. Generally speaking, French is a complex language and it's particularly difficult to master the accents and the gender/number agreements. In English as well as French, a letter s is added in the plural (une orange, des oranges), but there are many exceptions (un cheval, des chevaux)
The spelling checker can distinguish misspelled words, but not the grammar errors.

We have seen that eating eggs regularly was dangerous. Vasudev did not precise it, but of course we assumed he was talking about chicken eggs and not about lumpfish roe (the word "oeufs" is used in both cases in French)


While egg yolks and liver contain large amounts of cholesterol, many foods like fruit, vegetables, and fish are quite low in cholesterol.
of course, only chicken eggs btw i also eat fish and green leafy veggies.

humbert

Quote from: Vasudev on November 06, 2015, 02:31 PM
At my place, people eat beaf, according to holy scriptures, cow shouldn't be killed because its seen as a  deity.
Its Unhealthly I know, but when you walk around 1-2km everyday you need that quantity.

Then it is that the bovine specie that is slaughtered for food is not the same than the one that walks around in the street, and scriptures identify that specie as the diety?

Walking 1-2 km a day is not very much. I walk 3-4 km every morning for exercise, not to mention my movements the rest of the day.