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Started by scarface, October 11, 2015, 07:02 PM

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scarface

Tonight, I'm going to present another dish.
Maybe it is a common dish for Vasudev, harkaz, shadow.97 and humbert.
What is it? I will add comments later.






humbert

Quote from: scarface on November 13, 2024, 11:35 PMTonight, I'm going to present another dish.
Maybe it is a common dish for Vasudev, harkaz, shadow.97 and humbert.

You got me on this one. The peas and carrots at the bottom are obvious. The thing tied with strings looks like some sort of ham and cheese (confirm that please). Unless you're very hungry, I don't think you're going to untie the rope and eat the whole thing in one sitting. This especially after going thought the peas and carrots. So what is this and do you eat it in different meals?

scarface

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Quote from: humbert on November 14, 2024, 04:49 AMYou got me on this one. The peas and carrots at the bottom are obvious. The thing tied with strings looks like some sort of ham and cheese (confirm that please).
Humbert's answer is awesome: everything is right. Actually, this is a pork roast (rôti de porc in French), which was enhanced: some bacon and several slices of emmental were added to give it a nice flavor.
And if I ate all the peas and the carrots in one meal, I kept half of the "rôti" for the following meal.
I'm sure that such a dish would delight your guests.

A little note on spelling rules:
Note that the verb roast stems from the old French rostir, which became rôtir (as you see, the letter s disappeared, as in the words "hospital", which became hôpital or beste which became bête (beast)). However, for the adjectives or words derived from these nouns, normally the s comes back: take notice of the French words "hospitalisation" or "bestial".
Usually when there is a circumflex accent in a French word, it's signaling that a s disappeared.

humbert

Quote from: scarface on November 14, 2024, 10:04 PMAnd if I ate all the peas and the carrots in one meal, I kept half of the "rôti" for the following meal.
I'm sure that such a dish would delight your guests.

Does the rôti come tied with strings from the grocery store or did you tie all that yourself?

With respect to eating it, do you cut the strings then cut the rôti in half with a knife? I assume the other half is wrapped in tin foil and put in the fridge. Correct?

Quote from: scarface on November 14, 2024, 10:04 PMNote that the verb roast stems from the old French rostir, which became rôtir (as you see, the letter s disappeared, as in the words "hospital", which became hôpital or beste which became bête (beast)). However, for the adjectives or words derived from these nouns, normally the s comes back: take notice of the French words "hospitalisation" or "bestial". Usually when there is a circumflex accent in a French word, it's signaling that a s disappeared.

I'm confused about something. In today's French is it "hôpital" or "hospital"? The same question with all the other words. Also, let me be clear: any time there is a circumflex is it pronounced with a S that isn't there? For example, is "rôtir" pronounced "rostir"?

scarface

Quote from: humbert on November 17, 2024, 11:21 PMDoes the rôti come tied with strings from the grocery store or did you tie all that yourself?

With respect to eating it, do you cut the strings then cut the rôti in half with a knife? I assume the other half is wrapped in tin foil and put in the fridge. Correct?
To put it bluntly, I expected the users of the forum to believe that I did this rôti myself (and the results is amazing). And your question is evidence that some doubts may arise about the creator of this rôti. Actually, I bought it in a grocery store. When I stumbled upon this beautiful "rôti farci avec du bacon et de l'emmental" (pork roast stuffed with emmental and bacon), I decided to buy it and show it on the forum. As for the other half, I just put it in the fridge (without tin foil)


Quote from: humbert on November 17, 2024, 11:21 PMI'm confused about something. In today's French is it "hôpital" or "hospital"? The same question with all the other words. Also, let me be clear: any time there is a circumflex is it pronounced with a S that isn't there? For example, is "rôtir" pronounced "rostir"?
It is hôpital. There is no "s" in the word so it's not pronounced with a "s". The circumflex accent is useless (but reminiscent of the old French).
Take notice of the following words (Usually, in the English word that derived from the French word, the "s" is still present):
Ancêtre (Ancestor)
Apôtre (Apostle)
Château (castle)
Hôtel (hotel)
Maître (Master)
Île (Island)

scarface

During the previous conference, the users of the forum discovered the recipe of the "rôti de porc".
Tomorrow, I'll show you how to prepare a raclette (without a raclette device since it's unlikely for Humbert, Maher or Vasudev to find a raclette apparatus in their appliance store). For those who want to be ready to make a raclette, you can already buy some potatoes, some raclette cheese - any type of cheese that melts well (ideally some raclette cheese, but you can also choose some Reblochon or some Morbier), and a plate of cold cuts (smoked ham, coppa or beef jerky).

humbert

#436
Quote from: scarface on November 18, 2024, 09:32 PMTo put it bluntly, I expected the users of the forum to believe that I did this rôti myself (and the results is amazing). And your question is evidence that some doubts may arise about the creator of this rôti. Actually, I bought it in a grocery store. When I stumbled upon this beautiful "rôti farci avec du bacon et de l'emmental" (pork roast stuffed with emmental and bacon), I decided to buy it and show it on the forum.

So you did NOT tie it yourself. It was pre-tied at the store. Is this so that you can cook the whole thing all at once without taking it apart?

Quote from: scarface on November 18, 2024, 09:32 PMAs for the other half, I just put it in the fridge (without tin foil)

It doesn't taste different after a night in the fridge, unwrapped and unprotected? I'd think you'd put it in at least some sort of plastic tupperware.

Quote from: scarface on November 18, 2024, 09:32 PMIt is hôpital. There is no "s" in the word so it's not pronounced with a "s". The circumflex accent is useless (but reminiscent of the old French).
Take notice of the following words (Usually, in the English word that derived from the French word, the "s" is still present):
Ancêtre (Ancestor)
Apôtre (Apostle)
Château (castle)
Hôtel (hotel)
Maître (Master)
Île (Island)

The confusing thing about French is that sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. English is like that too, if not worse. Spanish and Italian don't have that problem. They are very phonetic languages, as you know.

So the words on your list ARE pronounced with an S., e.g., hôtel is hostel, château is chasteau, etc.  The circumflex and S applies to all vowels, not just O. Right?

scarface

#437
Quote from: humbert on November 20, 2024, 05:32 AMSo you did NOT tie it yourself. It was pre-tied at the store. Is this so that you can cook the whole thing all at once without taking it apart?
When the rôti is not stuffed, it is pre-tied and I don't know why. In the current case, it is tied to keep the various layers in place indeed.


Quote from: humbert on November 20, 2024, 05:32 AMIt doesn't taste different after a night in the fridge, unwrapped and unprotected? I'd think you'd put it in at least some sort of plastic tupperware.
No, it doesn't taste different, it's just cold...If kept for only one day in the fridge, I'm not certain it needs to be wrapped.


Quote from: humbert on November 20, 2024, 05:32 AMSo the words on your list ARE pronounced with an S., e.g., hôtel is hostel, château is chasteau, etc.  The circumflex and S applies to all vowels, not just O. Right?
The explanations were probably not clear enough since it is quite the contrary. The French words hôtel, château, or apôtre are pronounced "hotel, chateau (eau = o), apotre", without "s". The circumflex accent doesn't affect the pronunciation of these words.

scarface

#438
Tonight, I'm going to show you how to prepare a raclette recipe.
Some comments will be added later.

The ingredients needed

In this photo you can see some ham, some "rosette", and the raclette cheese.


Here are the potatoes. Potatoes and cheese are mandatory for a raclette. In a standard raclette, cold cuts (usually pork products) are needed, but if you are not into pork meat, you can choose a different kind of meat or no meat at all.


Here is the most crucial step of the raclette: we have to melt the cheese.

The final outcome

The aroma of melted cheese must fill the room. If it's not the case it means that something is amiss with the raclette.

humbert

Quote from: scarface on November 20, 2024, 10:54 PMTonight, I'm going to show you how to prepare a raclette recipe.
Some comments will be added later.

You prepared all those meals yourself? Do you live alone? You keep moving around France. Where are you now?