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humbert

Quote from: Shadow.97 on April 30, 2012, 01:14 AM
My thought when reading your text. "Canada?!" uhh i have no relatives there :/, Europe, UK. Amsterdam = drugs. No cops = thats to be honest **** in my opinion, i dont always feel safe walking on a road. Speak english when in NL, GER, SWE, NOR, DK, BEL they will often understand you perfectly if you speak calmly. but in sweden the GOV sees it like this(In my opinion); Work hard for your cash, we take it and give to the poor that doesnt even search for a job. Everyone MUST have equally amount of money.

Trust me, you are gravely mistaken when it comes to Amsterdam. Unlike here in America, in Holland you'll find no drug dealers or pushers on the street who can truly make a place dangerous. Over there, only marijuana is tolerated, and they sell it in "brown cafe's" of which there are many. In those places nobody messes with you and everybody peacefully does their own thing. There are even hi-def TV's on the wall, very often showing football games. It's a known fact that the vast majority of those who patronize the brown cafe's are foreigners, Dutch people hardly go there. Also, believe me, there is NO need for a heavy police presence. In fact, on thing I loved about Amsterdam is how safe it is. You can walk around at all hours and nobody will even dream of bothering you. What American city can make that claim, other than maybe a small town in the Midwest?

As for languages, in Paris (for example) it's more difficult to find someone that speaks English, although clearly not impossible. I also noticed that, unlike what many people have said, I found French people to be very nice and helpful. As for English, I'm not familiar with the other countries you mentioned, but in Amsterdam everybody speaks it -- and speaks it well.

Based on what you've told me, I'm under the impression that the Swedish system discourages people from working hard to make money and encourages laziness. If I were in a situation where most of my money went to support those who don't work, believe me I'll invent a reason not to work and simply live off those who do. Did I misunderstand what you've said about the Swedish system or do I have it right?

Shadow.97

humbert that seems to be their goal in sweden. But for the things with cops and such, to be honest im almost pissed off at them in sweden, they dont do a **** to help, as they are not allowed to use/show guns if they are basicly treatend to death(Noone really obey the laws). I cant say i feel safe walking to town at night (i dont live that far away, just a little lake in the way) Oh, and last time i saw a cop was over 1 year ago, and that was when someone set fire on my school, before then well i have no clue. Oh and something ive noticed.. Today i was walking to the dentist, i saw 2 people painting with spraycans on the wall(which is illigal) i called the police, and asked them to come, an hour later they came, looked at it and went away again, made me really dissapointed wait an hour to watch someone doing nothing...btw we are off topic XD

humbert

Quote from: Shadow.97 on May 01, 2012, 02:13 AM
humbert that seems to be their goal in sweden. But for the things with cops and such, to be honest im almost pissed off at them in sweden, they dont do a **** to help, as they are not allowed to use/show guns if they are basicly treatend to death(Noone really obey the laws). I cant say i feel safe walking to town at night (i dont live that far away, just a little lake in the way) Oh, and last time i saw a cop was over 1 year ago, and that was when someone set fire on my school, before then well i have no clue. Oh and something ive noticed.. Today i was walking to the dentist, i saw 2 people painting with spraycans on the wall(which is illigal) i called the police, and asked them to come, an hour later they came, looked at it and went away again, made me really dissapointed wait an hour to watch someone doing nothing...btw we are off topic XD

First of all, please give me the name of your city once again. I've memorized Qalqilya, Al Mahalla Al Kubra, and Puna, but not yours ;). I know Topdog lives close to Auckland, but I need to has him for his city too.

What you're saying about the police in your city (if not he rest of Sweden) seems like a case of "I pretend to work, they pretend to pay me". Why would any policeman put his life at risk if he's not allowed to defend himself by carrying a gun, while at the same time having most of his salary taxed away by the government?

What exactly are you afraid of if you go out? Is it that you'll be attacked and robbed or something like that? Is your city that badly crime infested?

Shadow.97

Quote from: humbert on May 03, 2012, 06:34 AM
Quote from: Shadow.97 on May 01, 2012, 02:13 AM
humbert that seems to be their goal in sweden. But for the things with cops and such, to be honest im almost pissed off at them in sweden, they dont do a **** to help, as they are not allowed to use/show guns if they are basicly treatend to death(Noone really obey the laws). I cant say i feel safe walking to town at night (i dont live that far away, just a little lake in the way) Oh, and last time i saw a cop was over 1 year ago, and that was when someone set fire on my school, before then well i have no clue. Oh and something ive noticed.. Today i was walking to the dentist, i saw 2 people painting with spraycans on the wall(which is illigal) i called the police, and asked them to come, an hour later they came, looked at it and went away again, made me really dissapointed wait an hour to watch someone doing nothing...btw we are off topic XD

First of all, please give me the name of your city once again. I've memorized Qalqilya, Al Mahalla Al Kubra, and Puna, but not yours ;). I know Topdog lives close to Auckland, but I need to has him for his city too.

What you're saying about the police in your city (if not he rest of Sweden) seems like a case of "I pretend to work, they pretend to pay me". Why would any policeman put his life at risk if he's not allowed to defend himself by carrying a gun, while at the same time having most of his salary taxed away by the government?

What exactly are you afraid of if you go out? Is it that you'll be attacked and robbed or something like that? Is your city that badly crime infested?
I live in "Växjö", the thing that im most afraid of tbh is robbers and thieves, as i know people who have been robbed nearby, and the "gangs" are just well violent. Oh and, if your going to sweden, go to Malmö or Stockholm, they have "real" cops or how you would say it, they actually work. Yesterday a man got killed in my town, well that got to the media and nothing more seems to happen.

humbert

Quote from: Shadow.97 on May 03, 2012, 12:13 PM
I live in "Växjö", the thing that im most afraid of tbh is robbers and thieves, as i know people who have been robbed nearby, and the "gangs" are just well violent. Oh and, if your going to sweden, go to Malmö or Stockholm, they have "real" cops or how you would say it, they actually work. Yesterday a man got killed in my town, well that got to the media and nothing more seems to happen.

You know, I was looking at pictures of Växjö on Google Images. The place is beautiful! It's like a typical small town but, from what I'm seeing, it's got everything. There's even a university in the area, plus the nice lake that's also shown on the map. I imagine the crime you're telling me about is most located in a bad part of town, one that normally wouldn't appear anywhere on Google images.

At least this business of the police not caring doesn't happen in bigger Swedish cities.

Let me ask you 2 things. First, other than Swedish and English, what other languages do you speak? I recall you said you had to learn a 3rd language by 6th grade. I assume you've traveled to other countries in Europe. If so, do you use English to get by or what?

The 2nd thing I've heard and I'd like for you to confirm (or deny) is the existence of very strict rules in Swedish culture. I've heard that if [for example] you were invited to dinner at 19:00 at a friends house, arriving at any other time is considered very bad manners -- to the extreme that if you arrived at 18:50, you'd have to stand outside and be careful not to knock on their door until precisely 19:00. I've also heard that it's common practice for, say, 2 sisters who haven't seen each other in a while, to shake hands as opposed to hugging each other. True or false?

Shadow.97

Quote from: humbert on May 05, 2012, 01:36 AM
Quote from: Shadow.97 on May 03, 2012, 12:13 PM
I live in "Växjö", the thing that im most afraid of tbh is robbers and thieves, as i know people who have been robbed nearby, and the "gangs" are just well violent. Oh and, if your going to sweden, go to Malmö or Stockholm, they have "real" cops or how you would say it, they actually work. Yesterday a man got killed in my town, well that got to the media and nothing more seems to happen.

You know, I was looking at pictures of Växjö on Google Images. The place is beautiful! It's like a typical small town but, from what I'm seeing, it's got everything. There's even a university in the area, plus the nice lake that's also shown on the map. I imagine the crime you're telling me about is most located in a bad part of town, one that normally wouldn't appear anywhere on Google images.

At least this business of the police not caring doesn't happen in bigger Swedish cities.

Let me ask you 2 things. First, other than Swedish and English, what other languages do you speak? I recall you said you had to learn a 3rd language by 6th grade. I assume you've traveled to other countries in Europe. If so, do you use English to get by or what?

The 2nd thing I've heard and I'd like for you to confirm (or deny) is the existence of very strict rules in Swedish culture. I've heard that if [for example] you were invited to dinner at 19:00 at a friends house, arriving at any other time is considered very bad manners -- to the extreme that if you arrived at 18:50, you'd have to stand outside and be careful not to knock on their door until precisely 19:00. I've also heard that it's common practice for, say, 2 sisters who haven't seen each other in a while, to shake hands as opposed to hugging each other. True or false?
I lern german, but i am really bad at it :)
Oh, and ive been to Norway, Denmark, Spain, Germany, and Cyrus(the Europeen part). Its mostly my parents that decide where to go, as myself i would like to go to Åland(Oland, finnish island) and Iceland(Those hot water sources!!). Btw i have not been outside europe in my life, except flying to the Canary islands.
The thing about arriving to a party or so. It is called "Vätt och Ettickett"(<- I cant spell it). If a party starts at 19:00 you may NOT come before if you havnt spoken with the host about it. As it may cause stress for the host. You are allowed to come up to 15 minutes after it "began" so for example 19:15 its okay, but after that its seen as being rude. As we say in sweden, "Fine people always arrive a little late"(5-15 minutes in my opinion). Well in sweden girls run around hugging and everything they are kind of wild XD. but with sisters, i have no idea as i have 7 cousins and none of them are girls, and i got no sister.= Im not sure.
The most important when you eat a meal is how you put your fork/knife, like when you are done you put them on one side at 5' oclock(if the plate is a clock) and like an X if your not done(maybe taking a refill). then its just common sence like dont speak with your mouth filled with food.
But strict, i wouldnt say its not like you need to obey every single rule when you are at home eating a normal meal.

humbert

Quote from: Shadow.97 on May 05, 2012, 02:53 PM
I lern german, but i am really bad at it :)

Oh, I'm not too sure about that. You also said you got an F in English, and yet you write it perfectly with few, if any, grammatical or spelling errors. Believe me, there are plenty of Americans who don't write it as well as you do. Because of this, I tend to believe your German might not be as bad as you think it is. When you visited that country, were you able to talk to the locals in their language?

Quote from: Shadow.97 on May 05, 2012, 02:53 PM
Oh, and ive been to Norway, Denmark, Spain, Germany, and Cyrus(the Europeen part). Its mostly my parents that decide where to go, as myself i would like to go to Åland(Oland, finnish island) and Iceland(Those hot water sources!!). Btw i have not been outside europe in my life, except flying to the Canary islands.

I imagine you used English when traveling to these countries, except maybe Germany, right? Also, mentioning Cyprus, do you mean the Greek part (the south)? I think the green line cuts across Nicosia, but I'm not too sure. Also, what's so special about the Åland Islands?

Quote from: Shadow.97 on May 05, 2012, 02:53 PM
The thing about arriving to a party or so. It is called "Vätt och Ettickett"(<- I cant spell it). If a party starts at 19:00 you may NOT come before if you havnt spoken with the host about it. As it may cause stress for the host. You are allowed to come up to 15 minutes after it "began" so for example 19:15 its okay, but after that its seen as being rude. As we say in sweden, "Fine people always arrive a little late"(5-15 minutes in my opinion).

That's interesting! In the Latin culture, then they say (for example) 16:00, that mostly means get ready about that hour, the festivities might start anywhere from 17:15 to 17:45.

Quote from: Shadow.97 on May 05, 2012, 02:53 PM
Well in sweden girls run around hugging and everything they are kind of wild XD. but with sisters, i have no idea as i have 7 cousins and none of them are girls, and i got no sister.= Im not sure.
The most important when you eat a meal is how you put your fork/knife, like when you are done you put them on one side at 5' oclock(if the plate is a clock) and like an X if your not done(maybe taking a refill). then its just common sence like dont speak with your mouth filled with food.
But strict, i wouldnt say its not like you need to obey every single rule when you are at home eating a normal meal.

The thing with Swedish sisters shaking hands is probably an exaggeration, especially based on what you told me regarding girls. And yes, you right -- cultural rules aren't as strict in a home environment as they'd normally be during a visit to someone's house.

Shadow.97

To be somewhat short, No i let my parents speak (im a bit shy when it comes to speaking with people(All languages)) And we use swedish and sometimes English, swedish because many of the hotel workers understand it, and people at the shops and resturaunts too.(<- mainly spain) As for cyprus im not sure where we were, we were next to the border i remember(i was like 7) and we stood in a tower(?) and looked across to the other side. (we most probably were in greece). Forgot to type greece before ;P.
and that with shaking hands, i do it when i dont know the person well, like my mothers sisters man, but as for my cousins i often just nod and smile, or with one that i spend more time with(LAN's and such) i say things on joke like "wassup nigguh"(not anything racist or anything, mainly because its funny, and we know we just fool around).
Though there is one thing, as in sweden, if someone say "nigger" to someone black in a conversation its concidered being racist, but when a latino/black/other says it its completly fine.. Is it the same in your country??

humbert

Quote from: Shadow.97 on May 07, 2012, 02:58 AM
To be somewhat short, No i let my parents speak (im a bit shy when it comes to speaking with people(All languages)) And we use swedish and sometimes English, swedish because many of the hotel workers understand it, and people at the shops and resturaunts too.(<- mainly spain)

This might be a typo -- isn't it English the language you find that hotel workers and other can understand, as opposed to Swedish?

Quote from: Shadow.97 on May 07, 2012, 02:58 AM
time with(LAN's and such) i say things on joke like "wassup nigguh"(not anything racist or anything, mainly because its funny, and we know we just fool around).
Though there is one thing, as in sweden, if someone say "nigger" to someone black in a conversation its concidered being racist, but when a latino/black/other says it its completly fine.. Is it the same in your country??

Pretty much the same. While the term "nigger" has always been derogatory, the blacks have now reclaimed it and are using it in the same context you say, only changing the pronunciation to "nigguh". The only thing I find wrong with all is is that people who are (for example) "latino" come in all varieties - they are white with blond hair and blue eyes, they are black, Asian and, of course, descended from the indigenous people that were here first (incorrectly referred to as "Indians") - yet they are often lumped into the same category. I'm not saying that being called or labeled "latino" is derogatory, but simply that the word is basically meaningless -- kind of like saying that a Swede from Växjö is exactly the same thing is one from Malmö or Stockholm.