Author Topic: False positives that aren't so false?  (Read 5350 times)

April 02, 2013, 06:43 PM
Many of the supposed false positives are not false. After a lot of experimenting, a number of the false positives I've come across were real threats that these
release ppls keep telling others to ignore & to turn of real-time protection or other non-sense to fool them into buying the bs. Yes, not all are real threats but it's a fact imo that
some seek through this scheme to gain profits by unethically installing ad-ware & other malware on downloaders' machines to steal financial & personal info of these unsuspecting masses.


How do the experts around here differentiate between positives & false positives when it comes to downloading software
Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) said “Surah (chapter of) Hud and its sisters turned my hair gray"

Hud (11)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiqxo4UDVfU

April 03, 2013, 09:54 AM
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Many of the supposed false positives are not false. After a lot of experimenting, a number of the false positives I've come across were real threats that these
release ppls keep telling others to ignore & to turn of real-time protection or other non-sense to fool them into buying the bs. Yes, not all are real threats but it's a fact imo that
some seek through this scheme to gain profits by unethically installing ad-ware & other malware on downloaders' machines to steal financial & personal info of these unsuspecting masses.


How do the experts around here differentiate between positives & false positives when it comes to downloading software
Cheats for games, any game injection basically is detected. (Except the big/famous ones)

April 03, 2013, 05:36 PM
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I use a rule of thumb that so far has never failed.  I know everyone has a favorite antivirus, and mine is Windows Defender, previously MS Security Essentials. I have it set to tell me what to do if it ever catches something out of the ordinary. When that happens I always click for details. It then tells me the file with the problem and the nature of the problem. If it says something like "keygen" or "hacktool", I leave it alone. I delete it when it gives you the name of a known virus with all the info and warns of severe damage.

As I see it, you can't simply delete or permit anything unless you first see what it's about. I do the same thing regardless of where the file came from.

April 05, 2013, 05:13 AM
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I'm very ascetic with software, and most of soft, used by me, is freeware/GNU. If I need to download and start strange program, never used by me before - I start it on Virtual Machine. If it's a virus - not a problem, delete the VM virtual disc, and copy new from backup dir.
Also, on my workstation I have well-tuned antivirus. So, on my workstation lives only viruses which is written by me. :)

April 05, 2013, 06:00 AM
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Cheats for games, any game injection basically is detected. (Except the big/famous ones)
Can u explain? I didn't get what u meant.

I use a rule of thumb that so far has never failed.  I know everyone has a favorite antivirus, and mine is Windows Defender, previously MS Security Essentials. I have it set to tell me what to do if it ever catches something out of the ordinary. When that happens I always click for details. It then tells me the file with the problem and the nature of the problem. If it says something like "keygen" or "hacktool", I leave it alone. I delete it when it gives you the name of a known virus with all the info and warns of severe damage.

As I see it, you can't simply delete or permit anything unless you first see what it's about. I do the same thing regardless of where the file came from.

Awesome!

I'm very ascetic with software, and most of soft, used by me, is freeware/GNU. If I need to download and start strange program, never used by me before - I start it on Virtual Machine. If it's a virus - not a problem, delete the VM virtual disc, and copy new from backup dir.
Also, on my workstation I have well-tuned antivirus. So, on my workstation lives only viruses which is written by me. :)
Great..
Is there simple tutorial to the latest or best version of Virtual Machine & do I create the image files or are they also downloadable?

Thank you all for the posts.
Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) said “Surah (chapter of) Hud and its sisters turned my hair gray"

Hud (11)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiqxo4UDVfU

April 05, 2013, 06:24 AM
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Any VM have a good tutorials on their sites or in documentations.
Try to use Sun(Oracle) VirtualBox.
To make an image, you should just create a virtual machine, install a Windows in it, and copy VM's virtual HDD (which is a file in fact) somewhere. Copied file will be your backup image. "Restore" operation length is about a minute. :)

April 05, 2013, 02:04 PM
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Any VM have a good tutorials on their sites or in documentations.
Try to use Sun(Oracle) VirtualBox.
To make an image, you should just create a virtual machine, install a Windows in it, and copy VM's virtual HDD (which is a file in fact) somewhere. Copied file will be your backup image. "Restore" operation length is about a minute. :)

In your opinion would you say Oracle's VirtualBox is better than VMware for simply testing stuff in an environment that can't harm your setup? I asking because I've never used a virtual machine and I think I should at least how to.