General Talk!!

[humbert]

It's certainly true that history is generally the subject that has most misinformation and all sorts of different versions written by different people. Despite that, this is how I see it.

"Mismanagement" isn't the proper word. Use of bad military tactics is more appropriate. On one occasion the documentary showed that the Red Army was using the same failed tactics used by the British during the Battle of the Somme in 1915. They were rushing waves of soldiers at the enemy and being mowed down by machine gun fire, only to continue the same failed tactic. Also, the Finns wore white camouflage which made them hard to see, but the Russian soldiers wore dark uniforms which made them very visible. Finns destroyed Russian tanks by simply jamming the tread with a log and then using a Molotov cocktail. Also, during the attack on Vyborg in 1940, Russian troops used the frozen Gulf of Finland as a road and it never occurred to any of the generals that the Finns would use their artillery to blast holes in the ice. According to Nikita Krushchev, all these failed strategies may have cost Russia as many as 1 million dead. Of course Krushchev may have exaggerated the number to attack Stalin, they didn't say.

As for what is rightfully Finnish territory, let's look at something. Finland was invaded an captured by Sweden in 1581. This lasted until 1809 when it was taken over by Russia. The Tsar established the Grand Dutch of Finland whose territory included that peninsula between Lake Ladoga and the Gulf of Finland (don't remember the name). In 1917 when the Tsar fell, Finland became independent and it's national territory was the same as had been established first by Sweden then by Russia. In 1939 Stalin decides this is perilously close to Leningrad and goes to war when Finland refuses to surrender that area. If all these historical facts are correct, quite honestly I see no reason that land should not be returned, especially now that the Finns are no longer enemies. What do you think? Where do you believe I'm mistaken?

Also I clarify that the documentary stated it was the NKVD itself that reported directly to Stalin with no intermediaries, certainly not the guys in the field. Of course those guys reported to their superiors, and from there up the chain of command.

Another interesting thing it said was that Mannerheim was once an officer in the Tsar's army and, in fact, did not even speak Finnish when named Marshal of the Finland's armed forces, so much so that he always spoke it very broken. I guess I'm not surprised - from what I've heard that language is so difficult I don't think the Finns themselves speak it. 

[Daniil]

What other tactics you can offer? 
Mannergeim Line was one of most powerfull in Europe, three times more powerfull then Verden defence line (which was at WW1). Also, it's shorter - you understand, that if the defence line shorter, it's more poverfull. Terrain is very difficult, that's in fact pinetree forests over frosen swamps, almost impassable if you don't know the paths between minefields and swamps. There is (even today) only 2 good roads (good by russian standarts  ). There was also another 3 roads, but they was bad even by russian standarts. 
So, in front of you 80 kilometers of swamps, covered with minefields, defence bunkers with machineguns and cannons, and so on. And that's a first, support line. After this 80 kilometers you facing a reinforced concrete of a main defence line, which is about a 40 km deep.

Also, "meat wave" attack is typical feature for eastern european and asian countries armies. Russia, China, Japah, Hungary, Poland, North Korea, Finns themself, even Germany (but during WW1), Middle-Eastern guys today  - all of them had used that tactics. In fact casualities isn't so big, but enemy loosing their mind, when they see a unending waves of attacking troops. Don't try to crush enemy body - crush their mind.

Also - to a question about unequipped russian troops. Grey and black uniform was used mostly by mechanised regiments - tank crews, drivers, and backup, support troops like engineering squads. Infantry troops was looking like this:

Of course, that white covers isn't a part of uniform, this is "maskhalat", it wears over the uniform. Sometimes, mostly at earlier period of war, our troops hadn't this covers. But - as well as Finns.

And don't read the Khrushchev, his first target was destroy Stalin's advantages and show that Khrushchev himself is much better leader than Stalin was.

Peninsula name is Karelia. Finland wasn't taked over by the Russia at 1809, finns themself asks for support in war with Sweden. And then they pledging allegiance to russian crown. So their independence is a bit unlawful - Finns, (and, btw, Soviet leaders headed by Lenin) in fact, broke old pacts and that all isn't follow international laws. Because of this, modern leaders made a decision not to change anything - that's cheaper and easier than anything else.

As for finnish language - yes, it's very difficult! Do you know how finns fights against migrant workers? In any job offers they mark as most important "knowledge of finnish language"!

[Ahmad]

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@ Ahmad-
if you know GHAREEB HANY(compiller of Windos Gladiator XP), than mut tell me about him.
18month ago, i have seen a windows (Windos Gladiator XP) on my friend's pc,i installed this windows on my pc, this is not good, but i liked most is in installation screens GHAREEB HANY explain about Islam, Quran and Holy Prophet Muhammad(PBUH). then i cantacted via hotmail to the GHAREEB HANY, he is Egyptian.
he became my friend, he often mail me. but after 3moths of friendship, he never reply   .IF YOU KNOW ABOUT HIM. PLEASE MUST INFORM ME.

Unfortunately, I don't know about him, nor about this XP.. Sorry.

[Daniil]

@Daniil-
i hear every time that Russia is very cold,there is no summer, yo can give me some detail?

So, let me explain, comrade. It's not every time is very cold here, we just have very long winter. Also, it isn't so cold - typical winter temperature here in St'Petersburg is -10 ... -15 C. It's very nice if it's no blizzard. But such nice weather is rare, here is very wet, Finsky gulf and Neva river is here, and so, strong winds, with snow and blizzards is typical at winter.
Sometimes temp falls to -25, but it's rare.
In the forests around the city at the end of january may be -45, but the city has it's own microclimate, a lot of factories, electric stations, railways and cars warms the air and ground inside the city. Because of this winter inside city starts much later, sometimes at New Year Eve (because all transport and factories stops, and temperature, before this stucked at 0 ... -2 C in two-three hours falls to -10C and a very beautifull snowfall begins).
Also we have almost no sun at winter, day is very short (at December 22 from dawn till dusk is only 3 hour and 45 minutes), and sky is closed with clouds almost all time. But in summer we have so called "white nights" - sun never goes down over the Emperor City.
Summer is short here, typical temp is about +23C, two or three days it can rise to +30, but it's also are. Spring is wet (WET!) with a lot of dirt, and autumn is very beautifull. Like today - it was pink sunfall, with long lines of blue clouds and golden leafs. Now it's dark, +5, looks like it'd be slight frost next morning.

[Daniil]

lot of thanks sir,

You're welcome, brother. Also, maybe you can told me about Pakistan? All that I know, that there is only dry mountains under hot sun, and towns inside the deep valleys...

[Daniil]

Thanks, comrade. I took a look over a wiki and a google. Islamabad is very beautifull city - clean and brighty dry. It's bit exotic for me.
Also, you working, or you're learning somewhere?

[Daniil]

2Gb of 400MHz DDR2 RAM isn't the same as 2GB of 1333 MHz DDR3. Same is with RAM on videocard. Same with processor cores and frequency. Also, there is a lot of differences in main board bus speed, chipset design and many-many other things.
So, two computers with same "volumes" of RAM, same processor speed and same videocard size (and even the graphics chip!) can be different in compute power in 5-6 times.

[jastreb]

Probably more open tabs on forum.

[Daniil]

when i have much money & time, i will try to visit some areas, i will must visit Russia, which month is best for me? i don't like winter much.

Well, it's difficult to say. As you understand, Russia is very big, so it's depend on what area you'll visit.
If you want to get the "classic" tour, and visit Moscow, Petersburg, the Golden Ring and other classic tourist places, you should come at the end of summer, it's best time to make a long trips around the cities and watch a culture monuments and beautyfull nature.

If you want to come here to raise your cultural level, it'd be better to come here at the end of spring. It's not a best time for tourist trip (it's wet, and infrastructure isn't ready after a previous season), but it's goot time to went to museums, excursions to different interesting places are also cheaper, at the end of spring you can join student and school selebrations, and at the beginning of May you can join the selebration of May 9 - The Victory Day.

If you want to come directly in St.Petersburg, you should come at end of september - beginning of october. It's the best time - the golden autumn. But in fact it all depends on weather. In this year autumn is absolutely nice, but last year autumn was wet and cloudy. And, of course, it's cold here - today, for example, it was +3. Also - good weather means cold, when temp raises, it becomes rainy.

If you want "klyukva" - i.e., funny and a bit stupid view of Russia, like it is in old american films - then it's better to come here at winter. You could walk at frosen gardens, watch New Year fireworks, eat pirojki, caviar and drink vodka (or you can't do that last. Sorry, I don't know how it's with this in Pakistan culture and religion). Snow and cold it's a "required part of show".

[humbert]

Daniil - how do you import those movable smileys into your posts? Where do you get the individual files? I'm asking because usually smiley programs have library files with many in there.