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scarface

his age in the profile is matching this...
shadow97 is probably the youngest specialist here while topdog has said he's without doubt the oldest in the forum

Shadow.97

Quote from: scarface on August 28, 2013, 10:33 PM
his age in the profile is matching this...
shadow97 is probably the youngest specialist here while topdog has said he's without doubt the oldest in the forum
Yes, I'm 16, born April 1997. Thanks for the idéa to check on their drivers license, never would've thought of it! Anyways, my parents bought a new car today. Skoda superb I think it was, they'll ruin it with smoke on the first day..
And no, it's not a secret here (birthdates)

humbert

Shadow - some of my wife's family members smoke too, but they've imposed a strict policy on themselves prohibiting smoking in cars or their bedroom precisely to keep out the horrendous stench. Your mom and dad have just smoke anywhere and have no such policy?

BTW, I looked at the car. It looks very nice and the fuel economy is superb. Does it have air conditioning? Also - how necessary is a car in Vaxjö? I'm asking because one thing I noticed in Europe is that very often you can get around using public transport. Sadly here in America that's impossible unless you live in New York.

When it comes to chronological antiquity on the forum, I have that dubious title. I remind everyone this is chronological and by no means mental - my mind is much younger.  :). And speaking of chronological age, let me ask Shadow this: if and when you find out your parents' DOB, kindly post them here - I'm curious.  ;D :D

scarface

#13
About the transport in Europe, I'm going to answer in place of shadow.97...
I think you have prejudice. I know you have been to Paris but have you been elsewhere?
If you come to Paris, you can effectively have the impression that the public transports are well developed in Europe, as its one of the best in the world...(the RER A is the busiest commuter line in the world). Now try to go out of the region ile de France and go on a journey in Creuse, a rural department which is almost desert (80 000 persons for 6000km²) crowded with dodderers, farmers, and cows. On certain roads, I'm sure you won't see more than a car per hour if you are hitchhiking, and maybe a few tractors. In Europe, besides Paris, London, and big towns, if you have no car you are crippled.

Shadow.97

Quote from: humbert on August 29, 2013, 08:37 PM
Shadow - some of my wife's family members smoke too, but they've imposed a strict policy on themselves prohibiting smoking in cars or their bedroom precisely to keep out the horrendous stench. Your mom and dad have just smoke anywhere and have no such policy?

BTW, I looked at the car. It looks very nice and the fuel economy is superb. Does it have air conditioning? Also - how necessary is a car in Vaxjö? I'm asking because one thing I noticed in Europe is that very often you can get around using public transport. Sadly here in America that's impossible unless you live in New York.

When it comes to chronological antiquity on the forum, I have that dubious title. I remind everyone this is chronological and by no means mental - my mind is much younger.  :). And speaking of chronological age, let me ask Shadow this: if and when you find out your parents' DOB, kindly post them here - I'm curious.  ;D :D
Haha. Well, a car is necessary because well, my mom can take the bus to work. Dad can't he works on far the other side on the town and have very odd working times.
Also it should have AC, but we use our car to drag our caravan and to drive to and from our summer house.
Almost everyone around our area has atleast 1 car.
We could travel over almost the whole sweden with public transport but the timing on bustops would be a pain because if we were to go to our summer house we'd have to take like 5 different buses and it would probably take about 10hours to get there, mainly because of waiting for the buses and it only goes 1 bus each day to our summerhouse.
"In Europe, except paris, london, and big towns in Europe if you have no car you are crippled." Is very true, but even if you're crippled you'd get a car here :P!

Daniil

Hi, comrades, I'm back.  :)
As about topic subject - I stopped smoking when I was at third class at school.   ;D  In fact I smoked with my playmates when I was on summer vacation at Ukraine (they said that smoking is cool, and I, at my 8 y.o., thought that they're right.) I smoked about a month, later I thought that it's not interesting, and stoped this.
And hate to be in same room with smokers. That's because of when I worked at factory, near my server room was exit to stairway, and there was a place for smoking. Workers who worked at processing hall regulary went to stairway (to take a smoke-break), but... the trouble was that my room had ventilation intake from stairway.  :-\
Of course after I wrote a terricones of papers with requests, factory management gave order to re-built ventilation and fix that problem, but that all took about a year. I made a temporary filters on a vent exit, but a part of smoke anyway had go through. That was absolutly terrible, filters was covered with dark-yellow fallouts. Also, that was another problem with dust (factory produced a ceramic and carbon parts and that ceramic-carbon dust was everywhere)... But that's another story.  :)
As for electronic cigarettes - they're very popular between "cool machos" and posers here in Russia, like an IPhones. They think that it's symbol of status, but all other (normal) peoples thinks that they're dumb posers.
Also, nichrome wire from e-cigarettes is very good for make an ignitors for rockets and explosives.

humbert

Quote from: scarface on August 29, 2013, 10:06 PM
about the transport in Europe Im going to answer in place of shadow.97...
I think you have prejudice. I know you have been in paris but have you been elsewhere?
If you come in Paris you can effectively have the impression that the public transports are very developped in Europe, as its one of the best in the world...(the rer A is the busiest commuter line in the world). Now try to go out of the region ile de France and go on a journey in Creuse, a rural department almost desert (80 000 persons for 6000km²) crowded with dodderers, farmers, and cows. On certain roads Im sure if you are hitchhiking you wont see more than a car per hour, and perhaps a few tractors. In Europe, except paris, london, and big towns in Europe if you have no car you are crippled. By the way I had put a picture of the town of shadow.97 in the topic survive the economic collapse.

Let me begin by saying that nowhere on this planet do small towns have any kind of rapid transit system. They make sense only in large metropolitan areas. In the small towns I've visited outside the USA you can either walk, catch a taxi or maybe a bus. Regarding large European cities, I've been to Madrid, Paris and Amsterdam. In none of these 3 cities do you really need a car. Traveling by underground subway is easy in both Madrid and Paris. Since Amsterdam is underwater, an underground system is impossible, but they have an excellent network or rail cars. By comparison, here in the USA without a car you're dead. Rapid transit is terrible and all you see is a vast road network. It hard to find a place to walk or ride a bicycle, and even if you did the distances are incredible. For example, when I lived in Miami to visit my mother I had to drive 35 km, and then another 35 km to get back home. I would love nothing more than to live in a place where a car is more a luxury than a real necesity.

@Daniil - regarding your comments about people smoking a polluting the ventilation systems, I don't know how things are over there, but here the mindset of those who still smoke is to go outside or to a designated area where their pollution harms nobody. This wasn't the case many years ago, back then they'd smoke anywhere regardless of whether it was bothering anyone else.

@Shadow - assuming your new car has A/C, do you really need to use it? Does your house have A/C? Does the temperature in Vaxjö reach or exceed 30°C for very long? I'm asking because everywhere I've lived, without A/C you're dead. In Miami you've got 32°C and 75% humidity, in San Antonio 38°-40°C and 40% humidity. I estimate my electric bill this month will be around $250, and easily 75% of that is to run the A/C.

scarface

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I have no A/C, no car, and Im still alive. I dont have the climate of miami though. I even thought I should send mr bozo (the bonzai), because it wont stand the frost this winter.
Its not surprising that in the US you cant live without a car, this country has been built with the assumption that the supplies of oil will be always plentiful, the densities of the town are too weak to build efficient public transports.
For me with the economic collapse (you know that for me only the date is unknown), the US will have big difficulties. I dont see a bright future for a town like Las Vegas, which is in the desert for example.
To give you a few numbers found on wikipedia,
San antonio: 1 327 407h   1067km²
paris+close suburbs: 6 599 000h   752km²
you understand why in a town like san antonio you cant have an efficient subway or other things, it would be too costly. Its not the case for NY which is densely populated.

To change the subject, I was thinking of the people having difficulties in English on the forum. For me and Humbert its not really difficult since humbert lives in the US and since Ive studied it for a long time. For someone like Ahmad Im pretty sure its difficult to understand everything on this forum. As a cultivated person he's probably fluent in both classic and modern Arabic, but probably its not of any use for him on the forum. For example an angel would tell a prince arriving in the paradise "kuntu fi intizarika" in classic Arabic (I was waiting for you), the prescience wouldn't use an Egyptian jargon . Also note the difference between paradise in english, paradis in French and al Jannah in arabic. Clearly some people are deserving in here.

Daniil

#18
@humbert  That's correct here as well. At factory was a dedicated place outside the building, where smokers could smoke "for their health". :) And at summer all was fine. But at winter it's a bit cold and snowy here, so smokers jammed at stairway. By the factory rules they "must smoke only in dedicated places", but management sat far from stairway and workers, of course, didn't follow rules. Well, as always and everywhere, you know. :) At the end of winter I said them that if they continue this, I'll start to beat their faces. That's took effect, but workers was very angry. :)
Also, as we speak about electricity prices. 250$? Why so many? Here we use a lot of electricity, esp. at winter. At december lights is on almost always, also my computers eats a lot. But we pay 450-500R (about 15$) per month. Or you use electricity for cook and heat also?

@scarface  You rise very interesting subject, comrade. It's very interesting and usefull to find and understanding differences in languages and, throu it, in menthality. Language is a mirror of a "way of thinking", and it's very tight linked with social and culthural differences and history.
While I talks with you here and with other foreigners in offline, I understanding, that peoples from any country is very close to each other. We use same programs, faces the same problems, all love our womens and respecting our ancestors. And cultivated peoples from any nations (it's strange to me, but it's a fact!) have close ideals, ideas and way of thinking. Small differences based on our history and culthure, our religion and our training. Understanding that differences helps us to understand each other, and work and communicate much better.

scarface

to daniil: in Russia electricity is particularly cheap (because Russia has some gas, for the moment...) compared to the rest of Europe at least.