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Title: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: Vasudev on December 07, 2016, 05:44 PM
This thread is regarding how to disable or remove telemetry from Windows 10.
Hopefully other members can post their views and softwares to remove/disable telemetry.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: Vasudev on December 09, 2016, 05:40 PM
W10  telemetry remover:
List of other SW can be added by other members as well.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: humbert on December 10, 2016, 04:39 AM
Do Not Spy is also pretty good. A great deal of telemetry and spying can be eliminated in the settings and a few tweak using the Group Policy Editor, but with these apps you can do all this at once instead of spending an hour tweaking and tweaking. Even if you're on Windows Home and don't have a Group Policy Editor, making modifications in the registry will work the same way.

Destroy Windows Spying can also delete unwanted Metro programs, and can go as far as to delete all Metro apps except Cortana, which can be easily disabled.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: Vasudev on December 10, 2016, 09:18 AM
Quote from: humbert on December 10, 2016, 04:39 AM
Destroy Windows Spying can also delete unwanted Metro programs, and can go as far as to delete all Metro apps except Cortana, which can be easily disabled.
I use all Metro apps like Groove Music (Faster than iTunes ), MSN apps and others.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: Certvalue on August 20, 2017, 07:03 PM
i have some doubts on Windows 10 OS. Sometimes in my system it is supported showing some errors some time. Can you please let me know.

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Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: humbert on August 21, 2017, 04:54 AM
Quote from: Certvalue on August 20, 2017, 07:03 PM
i have some doubts on Windows 10 OS. Sometimes in my system it is supported showing some errors some time. Can you please let me know.

I was reading that Windows 10S can only run metro apps. If so then it's garbage, there are very few metro apps that are worth anything. Is your system strong enough to handle Windows Home or Pro? If so then I suggest wiping the drive and installing that.

Since 10S won't do 3rd party apps, the most you can do is go into your settings and disable as much telemetry-related stuff as you possibly can. There's probably many more things you can disable by using the registry editor. You'll find them on Google.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: Vasudev on November 01, 2017, 08:52 AM
Quote from: humbert on August 21, 2017, 04:54 AM
Quote from: Certvalue on August 20, 2017, 07:03 PM
i have some doubts on Windows 10 OS. Sometimes in my system it is supported showing some errors some time. Can you please let me know.

I was reading that Windows 10S can only run metro apps. If so then it's garbage, there are very few metro apps that are worth anything. Is your system strong enough to handle Windows Home or Pro? If so then I suggest wiping the drive and installing that.

Since 10S won't do 3rd party apps, the most you can do is go into your settings and disable as much telemetry-related stuff as you possibly can. There's probably many more things you can disable by using the registry editor. You'll find them on Google.
Try this ISO of W10 FCU from Phoenix http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/windows-10-bloatware-free-edition.804247/
Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: Sobhana123 on February 02, 2018, 07:38 AM
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Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: humbert on February 07, 2018, 06:33 AM
Vasu: On several occasions I believe you said you upgrade Windows 10 manually. How do you do that? On my lappie for some reason Windows update isn't working. Until I find a fix I want to keep it up to date.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: Vasudev on February 07, 2018, 07:09 AM
Quote from: humbert on February 07, 2018, 06:33 AM
Vasu: On several occasions I believe you said you upgrade Windows 10 manually. How do you do that? On my lappie for some reason Windows update isn't working. Until I find a fix I want to keep it up to date.
Grab the iso from techbench adguard https://tb.rg-adguard.net/public.php
Mount and run setup.exe
OR I found Dism++ (https://www.chuyu.me/en/index.html) to be very versatile tool to fix your issue in one go.
Just check WinSxs cleanup, windows update log, Windows update install history and cache and just reboot. Your issue will be fixed. Make sure you create a system restore point before proceeding or even Macrium reflect Image backup for safety reason if you're paranoid about losing imp. files. Its safe though I have tried it w/o any issues.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: humbert on February 08, 2018, 05:30 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on February 07, 2018, 07:09 AM
Grab the iso from techbench adguard https://tb.rg-adguard.net/public.php
Mount and run setup.exe
OR I found Dism++ (https://www.chuyu.me/en/index.html) to be very versatile tool to fix your issue in one go.
Just check WinSxs cleanup, windows update log, Windows update install history and cache and just reboot. Your issue will be fixed. Make sure you create a system restore point before proceeding or even Macrium reflect Image backup for safety reason if you're paranoid about losing imp. files. Its safe though I have tried it w/o any issues.

Thanks for the tip. I had no idea you could simply mount the ISO and reinstall without erasing your files. Is this how you update Windows? In any event it solved the problem. And thanks for DISM although I never had to use it.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: Vasudev on February 12, 2018, 10:13 AM
Quote from: humbert on February 08, 2018, 05:30 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on February 07, 2018, 07:09 AM
Grab the iso from techbench adguard https://tb.rg-adguard.net/public.php
Mount and run setup.exe
OR I found Dism++ (https://www.chuyu.me/en/index.html) to be very versatile tool to fix your issue in one go.
Just check WinSxs cleanup, windows update log, Windows update install history and cache and just reboot. Your issue will be fixed. Make sure you create a system restore point before proceeding or even Macrium reflect Image backup for safety reason if you're paranoid about losing imp. files. Its safe though I have tried it w/o any issues.

Thanks for the tip. I had no idea you could simply mount the ISO and reinstall without erasing your files. Is this how you update Windows? In any event it solved the problem. And thanks for DISM although I never had to use it.
Dism++ or Dism is a housekeeping utility for Win 10 to clean older files and Trim W10 Size after every update. After removing everything W10 is just faster and less bloated.
I never upgrade W10, just Clean install everything. I did upgrade only once to get W10 using W7/8.1 license.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: humbert on February 16, 2018, 06:54 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on February 12, 2018, 10:13 AM
Dism++ or Dism is a housekeeping utility for Win 10 to clean older files and Trim W10 Size after every update. After removing everything W10 is just faster and less bloated.

Is it any better than simply using Ccleaner updated with the lastest winapp2.ini file? That's what I use (plus a registry cleaner) and my system runs great. I don't care what anybody says, Windows is notorious at leaving behind garbage and tons of useless registry keys. This is why I believe cleaning is an absolute necesity.

Quote from: Vasudev on February 12, 2018, 10:13 AM
I never upgrade W10, just Clean install everything. I did upgrade only once to get W10 using W7/8.1 license.

You're going to have to make the jump to W10 sooner or later, and especially if you have a relatively new system. I don't procrastinate - I went with 10 and ironed out most of the annoyances.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: Vasudev on February 16, 2018, 05:05 PM
Quote from: humbert on February 16, 2018, 06:54 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on February 12, 2018, 10:13 AM
Dism++ or Dism is a housekeeping utility for Win 10 to clean older files and Trim W10 Size after every update. After removing everything W10 is just faster and less bloated.

Is it any better than simply using Ccleaner updated with the lastest winapp2.ini file? That's what I use (plus a registry cleaner) and my system runs great. I don't care what anybody says, Windows is notorious at leaving behind garbage and tons of useless registry keys. This is why I believe cleaning is an absolute necesity.

Quote from: Vasudev on February 12, 2018, 10:13 AM
I never upgrade W10, just Clean install everything. I did upgrade only once to get W10 using W7/8.1 license.

You're going to have to make the jump to W10 sooner or later, and especially if you have a relatively new system. I don't procrastinate - I went with 10 and ironed out most of the annoyances.
I use CCleaner Slim(Trimmed Winapp2.ini), Bleachbit(w/ Winapp2.ini), Dism++, Storage sense to clean out the junk.
Yeah most PCs I have are on W10 Creators and newer version really needs SSD to get acceptable performance from Windows 10.  I have some older lappies with HDD and W10 FCU works like Horse crap.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: humbert on June 21, 2019, 05:34 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on February 16, 2018, 05:05 PM
I use CCleaner Slim(Trimmed Winapp2.ini), Bleachbit(w/ Winapp2.ini), Dism++, Storage sense to clean out the junk.
Yeah most PCs I have are on W10 Creators and newer version really needs SSD to get acceptable performance from Windows 10.  I have some older lappies with HDD and W10 FCU works like Horse crap.

Does Dism++ clean out garbage that Ccleaner misses even with the lastest winapp2.ini file? Also, in Dism++ there's an orange line covering some items. What does that mean?
Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: Vasudev on June 21, 2019, 07:57 PM
Quote from: humbert on June 21, 2019, 05:34 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on February 16, 2018, 05:05 PM
I use CCleaner Slim(Trimmed Winapp2.ini), Bleachbit(w/ Winapp2.ini), Dism++, Storage sense to clean out the junk.
Yeah most PCs I have are on W10 Creators and newer version really needs SSD to get acceptable performance from Windows 10.  I have some older lappies with HDD and W10 FCU works like Horse crap.

Does Dism++ clean out garbage that Ccleaner misses even with the lastest winapp2.ini file? Also, in Dism++ there's an orange line covering some items. What does that mean?
It means those are Expert mode features which are unsafe for basic users. if you just select what I said earlier (Sxs temps,sxs backups, etc..) which are pretty safe which your OS getting borked.
You can simply go to settings to uncheck Expert mode to revert to default state of Dism++.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: humbert on June 26, 2019, 05:43 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on June 21, 2019, 07:57 PM
It means those are Expert mode features which are unsafe for basic users. if you just select what I said earlier (Sxs temps,sxs backups, etc..) which are pretty safe which your OS getting borked.
You can simply go to settings to uncheck Expert mode to revert to default state of Dism++.

Is this what you do when you use Dism++ for cleaning?
Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: Vasudev on June 26, 2019, 02:25 PM
Quote from: humbert on June 26, 2019, 05:43 AM
Quote from: Vasudev on June 21, 2019, 07:57 PM
It means those are Expert mode features which are unsafe for basic users. if you just select what I said earlier (Sxs temps,sxs backups, etc..) which are pretty safe which your OS getting borked.
You can simply go to settings to uncheck Expert mode to revert to default state of Dism++.

Is this what you do when you use Dism++ for cleaning?
Yes, same as always. The steps are same when you had W10 upgrade issues.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: Daniil on May 08, 2021, 04:26 PM
Hello, friends. Can anybody tell, what kind of private data Win10 sends outside, and to where it sends it?
Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: humbert on May 10, 2021, 04:42 AM
Quote from: Daniil on May 08, 2021, 04:26 PM
Hello, friends. Can anybody tell, what kind of private data Win10 sends outside, and to where it sends it?

DANIIL!! So glad to see you back! Hope you can continue to enlighten us with your wisdom and knowledge.

With respect to Win10, I guess the best answer I can give you is to download and install a prog called Windows 10 privacy (https://www.w10privacy.de (https://www.w10privacy.de)). Not only does it disable telemetry, it tells you exactly in detail what it's disabling. It's what I use, I recommend it.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: Daniil on May 13, 2021, 10:40 AM
Yep, at last, I'm back. That was a hard time, filled with adventures, successes and failures.)) Anyway, I'm here again.

Thank you very much, humbert! W10Privacy is a great util. BTW, it's interesting, where is going all the telemetry and other private data from Win10, what organization receives it? Is that a main headquarter of Microsoft, or it's regional offices, or what? Does they share this info with special services?
Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: humbert on May 14, 2021, 05:12 AM
Daliil: Like I said I'm glad you're back and the issues you've been having are under control.

I'm not too sure who receives telemetry information and what they do with it. I'm thinking they use that to send you targeted advertizements. One thing is for sure: it's a big money maker. If you check the torrents you'll see that permanently Windows ISO's and activators are everywhere. Clearly M$ has no interest in selling copies of Windows. They make far more money by making sure Windows is on as many computers as possible and selling ads or using that information to their advantage.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: Daniil on May 16, 2021, 05:54 PM
Quote from: humbert on May 14, 2021, 05:12 AM
I'm thinking they use that to send you targeted advertizements. One thing is for sure: it's a big money maker. If you check the torrents you'll see that permanently Windows ISO's and activators are everywhere. Clearly M$ has no interest in selling copies of Windows. They make far more money by making sure Windows is on as many computers as possible and selling ads or using that information to their advantage.
Your thoughts about a true goals of windows telemetry looks plausible (more plausible than most explanations that I heared). Thank your for explanation, comrade.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: humbert on May 17, 2021, 06:36 AM
Quote from: Daniil on May 16, 2021, 05:54 PM
Your thoughts about a true goals of windows telemetry looks plausible (more plausible than most explanations that I heared). Thank your for explanation, comrade.

You're welcome, Ñ,оварищ (correct my spelling if wrong). Come to think of it, there is nothing hard about the cyrillic alphabet. I'm noticing that Russian is a very phonetic language, i.e., you write it the same way you say it. Sadly the same cannot be said about English and French.

The only time M$ might complain about payment is when there's a big company with plenty of money and a ton of computers. But small companies or individuals like you and me? No! Trust me, M$ knows all about those permanently activated copies and activators, in fact that's exactly how they want it. They want people like you and me to run Windows instead of [for example] a distro of Linux. I'm thinking this is exactly why so many more computers run Windows than the Mac OS despite the fact that Mac OS came first and is clearly a better OS. Steve Jobs demanded payment from everybody. Bill Gates is a smarter. He realized the thing to do was put Windows on as many computers as possible and everything else would fall into place. This can't be done if you constantly demand payment, nobody likes to pay.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: Vasudev on May 17, 2021, 09:26 PM
Quote from: humbert on May 10, 2021, 04:42 AM
Quote from: Daniil on May 08, 2021, 04:26 PM
Hello, friends. Can anybody tell, what kind of private data Win10 sends outside, and to where it sends it?

DANIIL!! So glad to see you back! Hope you can continue to enlighten us with your wisdom and knowledge.

With respect to Win10, I guess the best answer I can give you is to download and install a prog called Windows 10 privacy (https://www.w10privacy.de (https://www.w10privacy.de)). Not only does it disable telemetry, it tells you exactly in detail what it's disabling. It's what I use, I recommend it.
You can add Privatezilla as well. Straight forward app with less confusion. https://github.com/builtbybel
Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: scarface on May 17, 2021, 09:30 PM
Quote from: humbert on May 17, 2021, 06:36 AM
Russian is a very phonetic language, i.e., you write it the same way you say it. Sadly the same cannot be said about English and French.
That's true. I can give you an example with 4 French words that have different spellings and the same pronunciation, and 4 different meanings, of course: verre (glass), ver (worm), vert (green), vers (towards).
Therefore the meaning depends on the context.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: humbert on May 18, 2021, 05:17 AM
Quote from: scarface on May 17, 2021, 09:30 PM
That's true. I can give you an example with 4 French words that have different spellings and the same pronunciation, and 4 different meanings, of course: verre (glass), ver (worm), vert (green), vers (towards).
Therefore the meaning depends on the context.

English is worse. At least in French there are accented vowels and carets (é è ê) that at least give you an idea of how to pronounce it. English has nothing like this. Vowels can have 4 different pronunciations and there's nothing to indicate anything. Also English, just like French, has many silent letters. For example, in the car maker Renault the last 3 letters are silent which makes you wonder why even put them there. BTW, I drove one of their cars in Colombia once. I love them, they're almost indestructible. Too bad they're not available here.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: Shadow.97 on May 18, 2021, 04:50 PM
Quote from: humbert on May 18, 2021, 05:17 AM
Quote from: scarface on May 17, 2021, 09:30 PM
That's true. I can give you an example with 4 French words that have different spellings and the same pronunciation, and 4 different meanings, of course: verre (glass), ver (worm), vert (green), vers (towards).
Therefore the meaning depends on the context.

English is worse. At least in French there are accented vowels and carets (é è ê) that at least give you an idea of how to pronounce it. English has nothing like this. Vowels can have 4 different pronunciations and there's nothing to indicate anything. Also English, just like French, has many silent letters. For example, in the car maker Renault the last 3 letters are silent which makes you wonder why even put them there. BTW, I drove one of their cars in Colombia once. I love them, they're almost indestructible. Too bad they're not available here.

I put 'renault' into google translate to listen to how it would sound in different langauges.
Swedish was spot on based on how we say it.
French sounded like someone said 'Bruno' with a swedish accent, but skipped the b.


Also, that made me think. I wonder why there isnt UK/US voice for google translate.


https://youtu.be/S1oa9yYWo9s
On the subject of french


Edit:
We had to read this during class once:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jtiw721RAg
Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: humbert on May 19, 2021, 04:38 AM
Quote from: Shadow.97 on May 18, 2021, 04:50 PM
Also, that made me think. I wonder why there isnt UK/US voice for google translate.

I'm thinking it might be regional. I just checked and it's giving me English words with an American accent. Is that what you guys are hearing?


Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: Daniil on May 19, 2021, 06:39 PM
Quote from: Vasudev on May 17, 2021, 09:26 PM
You can add Privatezilla as well. Straight forward app with less confusion. https://github.com/builtbybel

Thank you, friend, I'll check it also.

Quote from: humbert on May 14, 2021, 05:12 AM
I'm thinking they use that to send you targeted advertizements. One thing is for sure: it's a big money maker. If you check the torrents you'll see that permanently Windows ISO's and activators are everywhere. Clearly M$ has no interest in selling copies of Windows. They make far more money by making sure Windows is on as many computers as possible and selling ads or using that information to their advantage.

Again, thank you for explanation, mr. Humbert. In case of Windows and M$, looks like that's absolutely correct.

Also, is somebody is interested about recepients of Windows telemetry - I checked some IPs where Win10 sending its data. Most of servers are in USA (Redmond, Washington), and some are in Europe (especially in England and Netherlands).
Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: Vasudev on May 21, 2021, 04:13 PM
Quote from: Daniil on May 19, 2021, 06:39 PM
Quote from: Vasudev on May 17, 2021, 09:26 PM
You can add Privatezilla as well. Straight forward app with less confusion. https://github.com/builtbybel

Thank you, friend, I'll check it also.

Quote from: humbert on May 14, 2021, 05:12 AM
I'm thinking they use that to send you targeted advertizements. One thing is for sure: it's a big money maker. If you check the torrents you'll see that permanently Windows ISO's and activators are everywhere. Clearly M$ has no interest in selling copies of Windows. They make far more money by making sure Windows is on as many computers as possible and selling ads or using that information to their advantage.

Again, thank you for explanation, mr. Humbert. In case of Windows and M$, looks like that's absolutely correct.

Also, is somebody is interested about recepients of Windows telemetry - I checked some IPs where Win10 sending its data. Most of servers are in USA (Redmond, Washington), and some are in Europe (especially in England and Netherlands).
Maybe FIB and M5I/M7I (spelling mistake intentional!) are behind you. Haha..
Check if your VPN is checking/pinging every time for choosing best server for less latency.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: Daniil on June 15, 2021, 01:44 PM
Quote from: Vasudev on May 21, 2021, 04:13 PM
Maybe FIB and M5I/M7I (spelling mistake intentional!) are behind you. Haha..
;D ;D ;D

Quote from: Vasudev on May 21, 2021, 04:13 PM
Check if your VPN is checking/pinging every time for choosing best server for less latency.
I'm not using VPN at most everyday cases, btw. Why you all thought that it's so important?
Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: humbert on June 16, 2021, 04:45 AM
Quote from: Daniil on June 15, 2021, 01:44 PM
I'm not using VPN at most everyday cases, btw. Why you all thought that it's so important?

That's a good question. Are you facing some sort of internet censorship that requires you to have one? Here in America I don't really need one, there is no internet censorship as of today. If I spent all day downloading movies through the torrents I'd probably get a VPN to mask my IP address from prying eyes. But for 1 or 2 movies every few days? Not really needed.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: Shadow.97 on June 17, 2021, 03:24 AM
Quote from: humbert on June 16, 2021, 04:45 AM
Quote from: Daniil on June 15, 2021, 01:44 PM
I'm not using VPN at most everyday cases, btw. Why you all thought that it's so important?

That's a good question. Are you facing some sort of internet censorship that requires you to have one? Here in America I don't really need one, there is no internet censorship as of today. If I spent all day downloading movies through the torrents I'd probably get a VPN to mask my IP address from prying eyes. But for 1 or 2 movies every few days? Not really needed.

Here in Ireland my ISPs have all blocked all potentially illegal torrent sites. And it's sadly not at DNS level.

I very, very rarely download anything from torrents anymore. I just dont see it as worth it.
The few things that I do consider downloading are software that is extremely expensive, or recurring cost that to me is out of line with what I feel is reasonable.
Vmware, photoshop, and movies/software that are abandoned/can not be found.

My brother is sharing is disney+ subscription with me, and we have a spotify duo plan&office365 yearly family plan.
In total it is around â,¬350 per year. Divided by 2 (â,¬175), as me and my brother pay for it all, but let our family join in. â,¬15 per month.
All this provides enough legal content for me to be happy. I'm a bit unsure about the office package, but it's nice for the 1tb storage, and actually have software used by companies. It's always better to be proficient in software you use both at work and at home, instead of using one at home and one at work.

Torrenting in EU has been getting worse, I know multiple people in both Ireland and Sweden who's been threatened to go to court over pirated video.
Most commonly is pirated XXX, as people dont want their relatives to know what they download/watch.

Everyone who has downloaded and refused to pay ransom has walked away freely. But it is unsettling getting physical mails threatening legal action.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: humbert on June 17, 2021, 04:37 AM
Quote from: Shadow.97 on June 17, 2021, 03:24 AM
Here in Ireland my ISPs have all blocked all potentially illegal torrent sites. And it's sadly not at DNS level.

You said that at this time you wouldn't be interested in torrenting. This restriction is draconian and, frankly, I have a hard time believing there's no way to circumvent it. I can think of several off the top my head.

Quote from: Shadow.97 on June 17, 2021, 03:24 AM
My brother is sharing is disney+ subscription with me, and we have a spotify duo plan&office365 yearly family plan.
In total it is around â,¬350 per year. Divided by 2 (â,¬175), as me and my brother pay for it all, but let our family join in. â,¬15 per month.

You spend quite a bit of time at work and not all your free time in front of the TV or computer, so it makes perfect sense that 1 streaming service is all you need. Pardon my ignorance but what exactly is Office 365? and why do you believe a paid subscription is necessary? Is it using M$ Office programs in your browser? You use it only because it's what you use at work, i.e., a freeware office suite won't do?

Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: Shadow.97 on June 17, 2021, 07:52 AM
Quote from: humbert on June 17, 2021, 04:37 AM
Quote from: Shadow.97 on June 17, 2021, 03:24 AM
Here in Ireland my ISPs have all blocked all potentially illegal torrent sites. And it's sadly not at DNS level.

You said that at this time you wouldn't be interested in torrenting. This restriction is draconian and, frankly, I have a hard time believing there's no way to circumvent it. I can think of several off the top my head.

Quote from: Shadow.97 on June 17, 2021, 03:24 AM
My brother is sharing is disney+ subscription with me, and we have a spotify duo plan&office365 yearly family plan.
In total it is around â,¬350 per year. Divided by 2 (â,¬175), as me and my brother pay for it all, but let our family join in. â,¬15 per month.

You spend quite a bit of time at work and not all your free time in front of the TV or computer, so it makes perfect sense that 1 streaming service is all you need. Pardon my ignorance but what exactly is Office 365? and why do you believe a paid subscription is necessary? Is it using M$ Office programs in your browser? You use it only because it's what you use at work, i.e., a freeware office suite won't do?

Office365 gives full access to excel, word, outlook, powerpoint, access, onenote, and 1tb cloud storage and removes the adverts on outlook.com.
The free tier only has 15gb total storage, and only permits web applications for office. Which is very limiting.

I'm not really limited by the free software, it's more that it is daunting having to learn freeware when I already know the paidware.
Best paid feature is the sync that it offers, as it allows you to keep going where you left off on documents, on phone, pc, and web.
Cloud storage is good for storing critical documents etc, and encrypting them before uploading.

I could pay up for the 2018 edition, but that would only be the 2018 edition, and then I'd any to penny up for the next versions anyway.


Most my time at work is spent with some show on, or sometimes even idle-style games or in calls with friends. If it isnt busy, ofcourse :)

I was never a big fan of story driven games, or movies/shows. The only thing I've really watched lately is futurama. I won a tablet at work at an internal competition, so I've propped it up in the bathroom and stream on it when I'm taking my eco-breaks.
https://www.harveynorman.ie/computing/tablets/lenovo-smart-tab-m8-8-2gb-32gb-iron-grey.html

Suprisingly good tablet, especially given the cost.
Processor is a bit sluggish and screen leaves some to be desired in terms of light bleed on the edges, but the speakers are the best i've had on a tablet. The little charging stand is also really nice. I think this tablet will do me good until apps wont be able to run anymore due to old android version. It's using android 10 for now. It will only be used for video and googling. Which it does well.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: Daniil on June 17, 2021, 09:52 PM
Quote from: humbert on June 16, 2021, 04:45 AM
Are you facing some sort of internet censorship that requires you to have one? Here in America I don't really need one, there is no internet censorship as of today. If I spent all day downloading movies through the torrents I'd probably get a VPN to mask my IP address from prying eyes. But for 1 or 2 movies every few days? Not really needed.

Yes, we have a some censorship today in russian segment of internet. Some say that censorship is too heavy, but I think that it's only looks like heavy in comparison of total anarchy of russian segment in 2000-th. Officially any torrents are blocked, but officials can't block a transaction protocol - they only block torrent sites and a part of trackers. But, there is always a lot of ways to get around this blocks - TOR, web proxy, etc.

VPN isn't the best way in our case, because when you use a VPN, you should to pay a money for it, i.e., you should show your bank transaction, your tax identity, your name or something like this. If you do this and then do something wrong, officials will have a questions to you - why you are using VPN? And you must give an answer, you can't say "It's not of your business!". Because if you didn't answer, then you definetly downloading a child pornography through it, and sending to evil US military and personally Elon Musk blueprints of our rusty innovative rockets! ;D

So in our case the best ways are those which didn't leave any trail of official documents. Yes, you can get a problems when you are downloading or uploading a lot of data - since 2020 officials have a system to check what torrents were downloaded or seeded from selected IP address, and if you every day download a lot of torrents, cops will find you. But, there is a lot of torrent users here, and most of ISP end-user's IP adresses are dynamic. So, if you don't become too much impudment, your torrent traffic will be lost in other people traffic. But officials can't drop all of us to prison.

Quote from: Shadow.97 on June 17, 2021, 03:24 AM
Here in Ireland my ISPs have all blocked all potentially illegal torrent sites. And it's sadly not at DNS level.

I very, very rarely download anything from torrents anymore. I just dont see it as worth it.
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My brother is sharing is disney+ subscription with me, and we have a spotify duo plan&office365 yearly family plan.
In total it is around â,¬350 per year. Divided by 2 (â,¬175), as me and my brother pay for it all, but let our family join in. â,¬15 per month.
All this provides enough legal content for me to be happy.
Yep, I heared about this rude anty-piracy laws in EU. That's have no sense sometimes, and sometimes violates rights and freedoms (as for my understanding that concepts). For example, I know some english translations of classic anime - it's official translation, published on official DVD, etc. But this official translation is incorrect, so incorrect that this changes a plot. And I know unofficial translations of that anime, posted on torrents, and they are much better. So, the question is why users must eat a sh*t made by big companies? Why they restricted in their choice?

BTW, as for me, I partly agreed with Shadow, but partly disagree. When it comes to games of software, torrents today isn't required. In most cases it's easier to pay for a game (I'm torrenting games only when I doesn't shure in it's quality or plot, and, if I like the game, I'll buy it - developers also wants to eat). For my job for most cases I can find a free software, and sometimes it's better than payware. The trouble is movies and shows. I don't like subscriptable movie or music services, because all content on them isn't interesting for me. Also, most of russian services of that kind have a very low quality content - all that dumb shows and stupid comedy, more stupid than a parody to stupid american shows.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: Shadow.97 on June 18, 2021, 03:04 AM
Quote from: Daniil on June 17, 2021, 09:52 PM
Also, most of russian services of that kind have a very low quality content - all that dumb shows and stupid comedy, more stupid than a parody to stupid american shows.

On this note.. The content is so different in ireland, sweden and other countries as well. And sadly you often dont know what you sign up for when you subscribe for a service.
Content often arrives months later, or not at all. Or with weird changes, or forced dub/subs.

One of the main things I hate about disney+ is not being able to pick video quality myself.
The quality sometimes change to something that I'm assuming is 480p, and it looks horrendous.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: humbert on June 18, 2021, 04:51 AM
Shadow -> Is Office 365 used inside your browser or a client? For example, do you get a copy of MS Office as part of your paid subscription? With respect to Disney+, are you sure the 480p is their fault or could it be that your landlord's ISP doesn't want to give you more bandwidth? Have you checked with speedtest or some other way?

Daniil -> Based on what you're telling me the GRU would find out about your using a VPN because of how you paid for it. What if you paid in Bitcoin or some other cryptocurrency assuming there's a VPN that accepts it?

Daniil again -> I'm curious about something, How much more or less of a dictatorship is today's Russia when compared to the Soviet Union before Gorbachev? I realize you probably were not alive at the time, but certainly you know people who were.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: Daniil on June 20, 2021, 12:03 PM
Quote from: Shadow.97 on June 18, 2021, 03:04 AM
On this note.. The content is so different in ireland, sweden and other countries as well. And sadly you often dont know what you sign up for when you subscribe for a service.
Content often arrives months later, or not at all. Or with weird changes, or forced dub/subs.

One of the main things I hate about disney+ is not being able to pick video quality myself.
The quality sometimes change to something that I'm assuming is 480p, and it looks horrendous.
Yes, absolutely correct. That's why I don't subscribe any of this services. BTW, it looks like that all technical component of this services are mostly same worldwide - on ivi.ru, as I heared from my colleagues at work, they faced same problems with variable pixel rate.

Quote from: humbert on June 18, 2021, 04:51 AM
Based on what you're telling me the GRU would find out about your using a VPN because of how you paid for it. What if you paid in Bitcoin or some other cryptocurrency assuming there's a VPN that accepts it?

Not GRU. GRU are on recon and spying in foreign countries. With inner troubles work FSB (ex-KGB). But, anyway, you offered a VERY good idea! We can use cryptocurrency here (they aren't wide-spreaded, but are legal). And buy a VPN traffic with a cryptocurrency is a good solution. But, we should use VPNs from third countries, because at friday (June, 18) I read in news that officials banned and blocked a bunch of russian and european VPN services.

Quote from: humbert on June 18, 2021, 04:51 AM
I'm curious about something, How much more or less of a dictatorship is today's Russia when compared to the Soviet Union before Gorbachev? I realize you probably were not alive at the time, but certainly you know people who were.
As old people says, dictatorship is lesser, but it'd be better if it'd be much harder. And sometimes I think they are right. I know, it sounds very strange for you, but you never lived here, and can't watch to life in Russia from inside. Communists sometimes wasn't wise, their methods sometimes was rude and barbaric, but they tried to build a society with equal rights to each man. Yes, that became a dictatorship, but the rights was "equal". I.e., if you really wanted, you could became a part of communist party, and raise to power and wealth after all. Party, science, hard work at factory, career in army could gave you wealth and became a social elevator. Today, dictatorship isn't so hard - but at the same time putinism doesn't have any social elevators. I.e., if you don't born in a family close to "Ozero" cooperative (it's an unofficial name of near circle of Putin's friends), than you can't reach any wealth and power. At all. Your hard work, your knowledge, your business abilities means nothing. Modern russian elite actively deny any attempts to join it.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: Shadow.97 on June 20, 2021, 03:48 PM
Quote from: Daniil on June 20, 2021, 12:03 PM
Quote from: Shadow.97 on June 18, 2021, 03:04 AM
On this note.. The content is so different in ireland, sweden and other countries as well. And sadly you often dont know what you sign up for when you subscribe for a service.
Content often arrives months later, or not at all. Or with weird changes, or forced dub/subs.

One of the main things I hate about disney+ is not being able to pick video quality myself.
The quality sometimes change to something that I'm assuming is 480p, and it looks horrendous.
Yes, absolutely correct. That's why I don't subscribe any of this services. BTW, it looks like that all technical component of this services are mostly same worldwide - on ivi.ru, as I heared from my colleagues at work, they faced same problems with variable pixel rate.

Quote from: humbert on June 18, 2021, 04:51 AM
Based on what you're telling me the GRU would find out about your using a VPN because of how you paid for it. What if you paid in Bitcoin or some other cryptocurrency assuming there's a VPN that accepts it?

Not GRU. GRU are on recon and spying in foreign countries. With inner troubles work FSB (ex-KGB). But, anyway, you offered a VERY good idea! We can use cryptocurrency here (they aren't wide-spreaded, but are legal). And buy a VPN traffic with a cryptocurrency is a good solution. But, we should use VPNs from third countries, because at friday (June, 18) I read in news that officials banned and blocked a bunch of russian and european VPN services.

Quote from: humbert on June 18, 2021, 04:51 AM
I'm curious about something, How much more or less of a dictatorship is today's Russia when compared to the Soviet Union before Gorbachev? I realize you probably were not alive at the time, but certainly you know people who were.
As old people says, dictatorship is lesser, but it'd be better if it'd be much harder. And sometimes I think they are right. I know, it sounds very strange for you, but you never lived here, and can't watch to life in Russia from inside. Communists sometimes wasn't wise, their methods sometimes was rude and barbaric, but they tried to build a society with equal rights to each man. Yes, that became a dictatorship, but the rights was "equal". I.e., if you really wanted, you could became a part of communist party, and raise to power and wealth after all. Party, science, hard work at factory, career in army could gave you wealth and became a social elevator. Today, dictatorship isn't so hard - but at the same time putinism doesn't have any social elevators. I.e., if you don't born in a family close to "Ozero" cooperative (it's an unofficial name of near circle of Putin's friends), than you can't reach any wealth and power. At all. Your hard work, your knowledge, your business abilities means nothing. Modern russian elite actively deny any attempts to join it.

Mullvad accepts payment by physical post. :P It's a nice touch. You send in your auto-generated user id in the envelope with the appropriate amount of money and they top it up as they receive it.
Quote from: humbert on June 18, 2021, 04:51 AM
Shadow -> Is Office 365 used inside your browser or a client? For example, do you get a copy of MS Office as part of your paid subscription? With respect to Disney+, are you sure the 480p is their fault or could it be that your landlord's ISP doesn't want to give you more bandwidth? Have you checked with speedtest or some other way?

Daniil -> Based on what you're telling me the GRU would find out about your using a VPN because of how you paid for it. What if you paid in Bitcoin or some other cryptocurrency assuming there's a VPN that accepts it?

Daniil again -> I'm curious about something, How much more or less of a dictatorship is today's Russia when compared to the Soviet Union before Gorbachev? I realize you probably were not alive at the time, but certainly you know people who were.
Office365 is both in browser and as a client.
To my understanding office365 is what is commonly referred to as 'microsoft office', it's the same version we use at work.

And relating to the internet speed; it shouldnt be an issue as I can stream 4k etc on youtube.
Server: Vodafone IE - Dublin (id = 1756)
ISP: Vodafone Ireland
Latency:     3.92 ms   (2.10 ms jitter)
Download:   156.56 Mbps (data used: 208.5 MB)
Upload:    48.48 Mbps (data used: 57.9 MB)
Packet Loss:     0.0%
Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/0f999c49-77f2-4295-9b1b-5c07136af7fb

I'm much happier with my current internet than what I've had in previous houses here in Ireland. I actually have proper fiber here.
Sadly I'm limited to using a power line ethernet adapter, which messes with the ping times and gives random hiccups. But still. Good average ping, and decent speed :D
Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: humbert on June 21, 2021, 05:42 AM
Daniil -> I'm confused about something. You explained that in Russia there's the FSB for internal law enforcement and the GRU for external espionage. As you said, it's similar to the FBI and CIA in America. What I don't understand is that, as far as I know, neither the NKVD nor the KGB was subdivided into an internal police force and a spy agency. If this is true then now did the KGB become both FSB and GRU?

Your comments about Russia are sad. What is the point of having more freedom if the country is ruled by a Putin-led mafia that doesn't care about the people?

Shadow -> Your new ISP is not bad at all. However, I was under the impression your internet access at home came from your drunk landlord sharing his [slow] access with this tenants. Did you move out or is he allowing you to pay for your own internet separately?

Speaking of ISP's, mine raised the price so I'm getting Google Fiber as of 28/6. They advertize 1000Mbps both up and down. The old one is 400Mpbs down and 20Mpbs up. We shall see.
Title: Re: Windows 10 Privacy Issues
Post by: Shadow.97 on June 22, 2021, 10:23 PM
Quote from: humbert on June 21, 2021, 05:42 AM
Shadow -> Your new ISP is not bad at all. However, I was under the impression your internet access at home came from your drunk landlord sharing his [slow] access with this tenants. Did you move out or is he allowing you to pay for your own internet separately?
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I moved in march to my current place, it's just a street away.
I'm allowed to get my own Cable(coaxial) internet where I am right now, but it would be less than optimal, as I currently have fiber.
I'm using  "TL-PA9020P KIT AV2000 2-Port Gigabit Passthrough Powerline Starter Kit", one in the house owners side of the house, and one in my part of the house.
The different parts of the house is walled off, so there is no physical acess to the different sides, but it still shares the same power etc. So works okay.
Power line adapters have come a long way since they were released many years ago.