Muslims fasting of Ramadan 1435 H

[cha]

interested,, but i think it will be deleted or closed.

That'll happen only if a viscious debate comes about. All we're doing is discussing and expressing each other's convictions so we can learn about each other. Nobody's trying to impose their beliefs on anyone.
A debate and a discussion are very different things.

Me agreed ...Nobody's trying to impose their beliefs on anyone.
sorry just active again, due my study....anyway Happy Ramadan to all muslims people,
may ALLAH bless you All. love and peace.
♥ Mozcha ♥

[scarface]

I've just seen that Maher has released an updated xp. He is probably fine.
I hope that my audience enjoyed the conference yesterday, you were quite numerous on the forum.
I've exposed a point of view, and maybe you can understand it. I think there is no truth to look for as I told Gujjar anyway. Well, this is perhaps a modern point of view, and some people around you might not understand what I say, no need to talk to them about divinities with crocodile's heads...
You know, what can be shocking in a society, can be normal in another one. For example, Ive got a colleague (woman) who has a young child and who is living with a woman (the other woman is not the biological father I imagine). Im not sure this would be accepted in Ahmad's country.
Im currently at work, but it's cold today here. Weird weather for july.

[aa1234779]

Allah's mercy & blessings to all for the coming of the Holy Month.. (a bit late)..

[humbert]

cha -> glad to have you back. May I ask - are you a Muslim? Also, what does '♥ Mozcha ♥' mean? Naturally the questions are based only on curiosity. Also, your avatar is gorgeous. Is that you or did you download it somewhere?

aa1234779 -> what part of this planet are you from?

[Ahmad]

scarface:

In short, everyone has his own beliefs and I can't make others able to see what I see, or think in the same way I think because everyone has a huge database in his brain from which his thoughts come.

As for me,
Allah created us, put some clues in his creation and gave us mind to use it to follow these clues and think. If we do this, we'll reach the fact that he is the creator, without need to any sacred texts.

Let me ask you..
I f I told you that a plane or even a chair appeared by coincidence (without man intervention), would you believe me ?!
Since we can't deny that every plane has a maker (man), why do we deny the fact that man also does have a maker (God) ?!

So, finally.. my advice is to watch documentaries about different life forms and their very different structures in detail, and think how this might begin by coincidence, or how one form might come from another.. (Birds from reptiles, for example), and try to prove it scientifically.

Decide by yourself.
Good luck

[scarface]

I f I told you that a plane or even a chair appeared by coincidence (without man intervention), would you believe me ?!
Since we can't deny that every plane has a maker (man), why do we deny the fact that man also does have a maker (God) ?!

For the first question I wouldn't believe you. For the second question, I have no answer to give. I don't deny that something may have created the live on earth. I'm just skeptical about the creation of man who is for me a product of evolution.
But I don't know if your example is good, because it's a kind of sophism, in the sense that you're talking about an obvious invention of Man, to deduce that the creation of Man was obviously made by God.
A plane is a product made by man out of materials. Perhaps God created these materials too. But Man created the plane. It's only a recent product though, which was due to progress and the need for travel or transport of merchandise (but as I already said we can wonder if progress is a good thing or not when we study our societies, which have become individualist, based on money, and the environmental and social costs linked to that).
As for the creation of Man I have no idea. If I knew of if I could talk to God and whether it would be positive or not, I would be a prophet, but I'm not claiming that.

[humbert]

Ahmad -> question for you: As you know, Maher is also a devout sunni Muslim. He has a beard and told me he can't cut it for religious reasons, in fact he can't even trim it. Why don't you have a beard? Do you know why so many other Muslim men have beards?

[aa1234779]

aa1234779 -> what part of this planet are you from?

I remember we're past that question friend.. 

[Ahmad]

Ahmad -> question for you: As you know, Maher is also a devout sunni Muslim. He has a beard and told me he can't cut it for religious reasons, in fact he can't even trim it. Why don't you have a beard? Do you know why so many other Muslim men have beards?

Many Muslims have beards because We know that our prophet (pbuh) had one, so they love to do like him.

As for me, I'm not used to it.

[humbert]

aa1234779 -> You're saying I inquired about your location before and probably forgot about it? Be that as it may, are you Egyptian?

Ahmad -> So the reason many Muslim guys have beards is for no other reason that to copy Mohammed? There is no religious obligation or other benefit?