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Started by scarface, March 01, 2013, 12:21 AM

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Scarface: Thanks for taking the time to explain the difference between the different types of accents used in French. It's a little hard to understand. Later when I'm less tired I'm going to read it more carefully.

French has umlats (ë)? That's news to me. I don't recall seeing one in any French text I've tried to read.

Spanish, Italian, and even Russian are very phonetic languages. You write it the very same way you say it. English isn't phonetic at all and there are no accents to help. French isn't very phonetic either and is full of silent letters. I heard all words that end in a consonant, the consonant is silent. I also heard that the letter (e) at the end of a word is always silent unless it has an acute accent (é). Is all this true?

At least there are different types of accents that help you pronounce.


Quote from: humbert on October 16, 2022, 06:19 AMFrench has umlats (ë)? That's news to me. I don't recall seeing one in any French text I've tried to read.
You can find it on a few words: Noël,canoë,Israël...
Actually you could probably replace the ë with è, it wouldn't change the pronunciation of these words (Basically you pronounce them like this : Noèl, canoé, Israèl).
However you can find it on the "i" of many words, meaning that you have to pronounce a or o and i separately, as in celluloïd, haïr, laïque, païen, coïncidence, maïs, baïonnette, coïnculpé, hébraïque, mosaïque, paranoïa, héroïne, naïade, polaroïd, égoïne, héroïque, naïf, stoïcisme, camaïeu, faïence, inouï, troïka, Caraïbes, glaïeul, laïque, ouïe, Zaïre.
The 2 letters "ai" are normally pronounced "é" or è, and the rule is roughly the same in English (liaison, aimless). In fact, the French language is more logical than English because Zaïre, which is spellt Zaire in English (with the same pronunciation), is not pronounced "Zère".

Quote from: humbert on October 16, 2022, 06:19 AMI heard all words that end in a consonant, the consonant is silent.
It's probably true. However it can change the pronunciation of the word.
For example let's take the verb "accepter". If you say "humbert et Maher doivent accepter de jouer au tennis avec scarface" (humbert and Maher must accept to play tennis with scarface), you use the verb in the infinitive and you pronouce it "accepté". Now if you use the sentence "humbert accepte de jouer au tennis" (humbert accepts to play tennis), you would just pronouce it "accept"

Quote from: humbert on October 16, 2022, 06:19 AMI also heard that the letter (e) at the end of a word is always silent unless it has an acute accent (é). Is all this true?
This is also true. But this is also the case for many words in English.
In fact the letter e in French is spelled out phonetically as ə. If you want to get trained, think of it as the "meuh" of the cow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5fSWknQFQM
This sound can appear in English with the letters "a" or "e", for example in the sentence "a trip to the North Pole" but the a is then pronounced differently between 2 consonants, which is not logical (the a of "Japan and "take" is pronounced differently whereas it appears both times on the first syllable and between two consonants).


Note that I encoded the bluray of the movie "the cow and I", known as "la vache et le prisonnier", in x265 with burned-in subtitles, but after looking at the results, the picture is sometimes "noisy". Maybe it's due to the fact the the movie was released in 1959. However, I think it wasn't the case with the DVD edition. I'm trying to encode it a second time with strong denoise settings. If the result is conclusive, I will post it, Vasudev, aa1234779 and shadow.97 might be interested in this movie.


QuoteIn fact, the French language is more logical than English because Zaïre, which is spellt Zaire in English (with the same pronunciation), is not pronounced "Zère".

I'd go as far as to say ANY language is more logical than English. The spoken language is OK, the problem is how you write it. Even then, a campaign to make it more phonetic is bound to fail. Why? As you know, in Spanish there is the Real Academia de la Lengua Española in Madrid. They write the dictionaries and keep the language updated. All this is then forwarded to the 20+ countries where Spanish predominates. English has nothing like that. British English and American English have different spellings. Not even in England is English the official language! The USA has no official language either, at least not federally. You can pretty much write it any way you want. BTW and before you mention it, I believe there is an equivalent of the Academia in Paris, for French obviously.

Just curious: have you been to Spain? If so, did you communicate OK?

Finally: I'm sure you read my post about my concerns for Daniil? What do you think?


Tonight, another movie, titled the cow and I and known in French as "la vache et le prisonnier" is available on the forum.
This movie, released in 1959, is based on Jacques Antoine's 1945 novel, Une histoire vraie (A True Story).
Encoded in x265 with English subtitles. The movie was "denoised".

Story: Charles Bailly, a French prisoner of war in Germany in the summer of 1943, decides to escape from the farm where he is forced to work and go home to France. Observing that a man with a cow and a milk pail passes unnoticed in the Bavarian countryside, his plan is to take one (whom he names Marguerite) and to walk with her to Stuttgart, where he will leave her and hide aboard a train for France.
Their epic journey takes weeks, during which the two meet many people, some sympathetic and some not. They get into many situations, some dangerous and some hilarious. For example, on a narrow pontoon bridge over the Danube, Marguerite will not budge when a company of German soldiers tries to cross.
Reaching Stuttgart, Bailly has to part from Marguerite and jumps on a train. At its first stop in France, he gets off but is challenged by French police. To escape them he jumps on another train, which viewers can see is heading for Stuttgart.

Link: https://mega.nz/file/EZ9lCYYY#nIigPSd1yZr8gb9My5wg26GNApjPHjweIn7bmg2u-LA


Tonight, another movie is available on the forum.
This is the movie "les 3 frères", released in 1995. If you don't speak French perfectly it's not a problem: this movie has English subtitles.
If you want to watch an excellent and funny movie, I recommend this one.
Encoded in x265.

Three half-brothers are reunited at their mother's funeral. After being told of their inheritance they quickly spend the money, only to find out that they will not receive it after all. The men grow closer while deciding how to proceed.

It's the "Inconnus"'s first movie for the screen and they made a funny and entertaining comedy. Three men who are very different are discovering that they are brothers. They 're also discovering that they're going to inherit a fortune that used to belong to their mother. But the inheritance is cancelled and they must escape from the police, the notaries, the bailiffs. Now that they are in the street, they've got to beg for but at the same time, they're learning to know each other better.... The film won the Oscar for the First Best film in 1996.

Link: https://mega.nz/file/LJZD2YYJ#WIKvHNzQMUj6YqJgxbsH_SAm_1VnlAc6vhR4FtCXbZM


Note that a new version of the movie "d'amour et d'eau fraîche" is available in this message: https://www.nomaher.com/forum/index.php?topic=1023.msg29243#msg29243
It was encoded with the x265 codec and the English subtitles were improved.

Note that I'm looking for the bluray version (720p or 1080p) of the movie "Derrière les murs" (behind the walls) released in 2011. If you have this movie, please send me a private message to share it.


Tonight, a new movie, titled les misérables and released in 2012, is available on the forum.
In 19th-century France, Jean Valjean, who for decades has been hunted by the ruthless policeman Javert after breaking parole, agrees to care for a factory worker's daughter, known as Cosette. The decision changes their lives forever.
link: https://ok.ru/video/31608670750

Here you can see a 1951 edition of the book (it contains 1805 pages). On the left, you can see dried edelweiss. I assume humbert and Vasudev have read this book (the French edition).


Tonight, another movie, titled Germinal and released in 1993 is available on the forum.

Story: In mid-nineteenth-century northern France, a coal mining town's workers are exploited by the mine's owner. One day, they decide to go on strike, and the authorities repress them.

In French with English subtitles
link: https://ok.ru/video/6176092785223

Gulliver and maher are certain wondering why the book is titled Germinal. In fact, it's because something is germinating. And you can read it in the following passage, taken from the book : "But now, deep in the earth, the miner was waking from his slumber and germinating in the soil like a real seed; and one fine day people would see what was growing in the middle of these fields: yes, men, a whole army of men, would spring up from the earth, and justice would be restored."


Tonight, another movie, titled Delusions of grandeur, is available on the forum.

Story: Power-hungry tax collector Don Salluste de Bazan (Louis De Funès) is banished from the Spanish Court and decides to use his valet, Blaze (Yves Montand), to take his revenge. In disguise, Blaze fills Don Salluste's vacant position and plans to have an affair with the queen (Karin Schubert), which the vengeful ex-collector will then reveal to the king (Alberto de Mendoza). Instead, Blaze and the queen fall in love, and the valet uses his newfound power to help end mistreatment of the poor.

In French with English subtitles.
Link: https://ok.ru/video/6076380154439

For the anecdote, Karin Schubert, the queen in the movie, came out of nowhere and sailed high into an international career opposite Richard Burton, Yves Montand and another tragic blonde star, Dalida. She gave fine performances in everything. After these successes, Schubert shocked audiences when she abruptly moved into hardcore sex films in 1985 before vanishing from the public eye without a trace a decade later. What the public didn't know was that Karin Schubert's segue into hardcore wasn't a capricious choice on her part. Her son, who was desperately addicted to drugs, had become so out of control that his mother became the target of his violent outbursts. Schubert left her career behind and fled to Spain initially before agreeing to pose for the hardcore pictorials to earn the money needed to get her son treatment. In 1994 she was placed under the care of a psychiatric hospital.