Windows 11

Started by Shadow.97, June 17, 2021, 01:13 AM

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Shadow.97

I love how manufacturers list devices as shipping with both windows 10 and 11, seems like even they can't tell the difference.. :')

humbert

Quote from: Shadow.97 on May 04, 2022, 06:09 AMI love how manufacturers list devices as shipping with both windows 10 and 11, seems like even they can't tell the difference.. :')

I'm thinking they mean W10 preinstalled with am available free upgrade to W11. Then again, I haven't heard that M$ is charging W10 users to upgrade to W11.

scarface

Note that new versions of windows 10 & 7 will be available on the forum soon. Since windows 11 has bugs, there will be no more new versions for the moment.

Vasudev

Quote from: scarface on May 13, 2022, 09:42 AMNote that new versions of windows 10 & 7 will be available on the forum soon. Since windows 11 has bugs, there will be no more new versions for the moment.
Also 20HX Win10 is EOL and users need 21H1 or hiher to get updates. Damn, two more years and Win 10 will be dead. I don't think people will miss W10 unlike XP and 7.

scarface

Note that new versions of windows 7 and windows 10 are available here:
https://www.nomaher.com/forum/index.php?topic=14153.msg37204#msg37204

humbert

Quote from: scarface on May 14, 2022, 10:23 PMNote that new versions of windows 7 and windows 10 are available here:

Who's still using Windows 7? M$ stopped supporting it long ago.  It's not like XP. By this I mean that those who were still using XP had old systems and it was financially impossible for them to upgrade. M$ made it very clear that any computer than ran W7 could run W8 and subsequently W10. It was with W11 that they drew the line, and even then you could alter W11 to get around this limitation.

scarface

Quote from: humbert on May 15, 2022, 02:45 AMWho's still using Windows 7? M$ stopped supporting it long ago.  It's not like XP. By this I mean that those who were still using XP had old systems and it was financially impossible for them to upgrade. M$ made it very clear that any computer than ran W7 could run W8 and subsequently W10. It was with W11 that they drew the line, and even then you could alter W11 to get around this limitation.
Actually, Windows 7 is still receiving updates every month. But it's true that it's probably advisable to use a newer version. As for windows 11, I have problems with it (memory leaks, audio lags) and the new mspaint is quite cumbersome to use (the exe can't be replaced).

Vasudev

Quote from: scarface on May 15, 2022, 06:03 AM
Quote from: humbert on May 15, 2022, 02:45 AMWho's still using Windows 7? M$ stopped supporting it long ago.  It's not like XP. By this I mean that those who were still using XP had old systems and it was financially impossible for them to upgrade. M$ made it very clear that any computer than ran W7 could run W8 and subsequently W10. It was with W11 that they drew the line, and even then you could alter W11 to get around this limitation.
Actually, Windows 7 is still receiving updates every month. But it's true that it's probably advisable to use a newer version. As for windows 11, I have problems with it (memory leaks, audio lags) and the new mspaint is quite cumbersome to use (the exe can't be replaced).
Yes as an ESR for some EU/US with higher fees. Actually unsupported for consumer or public users but W7 gets the job done

humbert

You're saying M$ is still updating Windows 7? I Googled that and it says that as of Jan 14, 2020 there are no more security updates. What's going on?

I have no doubt Win7 gets the job done. The problem here is lack of support, and I don't mean just M$. There are probably hardware manufacturers who don't bother to write driver for it any more. As more time passes, more manufacturers will add themselves to the list.

Did you test W11 on a "real" computer or on a virtual machine? I'm asking because in my tests on Virtualbox it performs quite well. It's just the typical M$ annoyances people have to deal with. I found a very clean bare-bones ISO on the torrents with a great many "features" removed. It doesn't even have Edge. This is no problem, if I wanted Edge it's available on the M$ store app. Despite all this, I believe it's still too early to go full on with W11. Let them improve it and let guys write more hacks for it.

If this were a perfect world, those who write operating systems should always provide us with a very clean copy. You download what you need from their store or repositories. Better this than having to spend all day removing unwanted garbage.

Vasudev

Quote from: humbert on May 16, 2022, 02:57 AMYou're saying M$ is still updating Windows 7? I Googled that and it says that as of Jan 14, 2020 there are no more security updates. What's going on?

I have no doubt Win7 gets the job done. The problem here is lack of support, and I don't mean just M$. There are probably hardware manufacturers who don't bother to write driver for it any more. As more time passes, more manufacturers will add themselves to the list.

Did you test W11 on a "real" computer or on a virtual machine? I'm asking because in my tests on Virtualbox it performs quite well. It's just the typical M$ annoyances people have to deal with. I found a very clean bare-bones ISO on the torrents with a great many "features" removed. It doesn't even have Edge. This is no problem, if I wanted Edge it's available on the M$ store app. Despite all this, I believe it's still too early to go full on with W11. Let them improve it and let guys write more hacks for it.

If this were a perfect world, those who write operating systems should always provide us with a very clean copy. You download what you need from their store or repositories. Better this than having to spend all day removing unwanted garbage.
W7 ESR release Win 7 ESR docs
I haven't tested win 11 on physical machines since I don't have any devices compatible with W11. In Vbox it works. In my ISO I use msi installer of Edge Enterprise. You can safely delete folder EdgeCore from Program Files x86\Microsoft\ and keep only Edge, EdgeUpdate and Temp and save 600MB of bloat since desktop version points to Edge folder.