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Started by aa1234779, December 20, 2018, 04:40 AM
Quote from: scarface on December 22, 2018, 01:32 AM1st point: Does Saudi Arabia want to oppress Muslims, or more likely, Is it not oppressing Muslims by imposing the strict rules of Islam â€" to gain the consent of a small minority of hard liners? You probably know the Kaaba, the big cube at the center of the grand mosque of Mecca. And even more likely, you remember the Grand Mosque seizure that occurred during November and December 1979 when insurgents calling for the overthrow of the House of Saud took over Masjid al-Haram in Mecca.Itâ€™s only the then that the Saudi King Khaled implemented a stricter enforcement of Shariah and gave the ulama and religious conservatives more power over the next decade, and religious police became more assertive.
Quote2nd point: Saudi Arabia is highly dependent on oil. And its citizens benefit from grants. For instance, King Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud has ordered the government to pay out 1,000 riyals (about $266) to state employees each month in 2018. And itâ€™s true that the KSA has enjoyed friendly relations with the West, especially the United States, and the wave of arrests in 2017 demonstrates ruthlessness of crown prince.But chances are all this wonâ€™t last: oil resources are dwindling.
Quote3d point: So you think itâ€™s not possible to practice a â€œtrue Islamâ€ in Saudi Arabia?But is it possible to practice a religion that is 1500 years old? Concerning Islam, the answer is no according to the scholar and author Majid oukacha: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNnBuwIiv-MBy the way, if we read the old testament or the Koran, we can see that eating pork is not allowed.But there is nothing about processed food, because at that time, there was neither Mc Chicken, nor Pepsi. And if they are unhealthy, are they â€œhalalâ€?
QuoteOther quotes: â€œThen came the second massacre which occurred close to the Raba'a sit-in.The number of protesters killed was around a hundred.â€ Allegedly, the number of casualties was close to 600.
Quoteâ€œI lived in Egypt after the revolution.â€ I'm now living in safety where I can practice my rightsâ€ So you donâ€™t live in Saudi Arabia, nor in Egypt. You are probably living in a country with a properly functioning democracy, where Muslims are free to criticize the religion. Maybe you chose another â€œdeclared Islamic Stateâ€, like Mauritania, Yemen, Iran, Pakistan or Afganistan. If you chose a country where Islam is only a State religion, you had a wide choice too, Morocco, Iraq, Somalia, the UAE...
Quote from: humbert on December 22, 2018, 06:28 AMaa1234779 -> Can you tell us where you're living now, or must you keep that a secret for your safety and that of your family? Also, you stated you still have Saudi citizenship. If you needed to [for example] renew your passport, do you believe they might cut you into little pieces once you walk into their consulate. This is a serious question, not a joke.
QuoteHow strong was Mohamed Mursi's relationship with the Islamic Brotherhood? I ask because these people, from what I've been hearing, were militant Islamists who forcibly wanted to impose their version of Islam, going so far as to harass Egypt's Coptic Christian minority. If indeed this is true then they are no different than the Saudi royal family.
QuotePlease clarify what you mean by "secular extremism". Before I say I agree or disagree, I want to be sure we're on the same page. As I recall last time we had a misunderstanding on this issue and I'd like to prevent another one.
Quote from: aa1234779 on December 23, 2018, 10:15 PMQuote from: humbert on December 22, 2018, 06:28 AMaa1234779 -> Can you tell us where you're living now, or must you keep that a secret for your safety and that of your family? Also, you stated you still have Saudi citizenship. If you needed to [for example] renew your passport, do you believe they might cut you into little pieces once you walk into their consulate. This is a serious question, not a joke. I'd rather not say for now, for my safety mainly. As to going to consulates, that is suicide. Any government property owned by the Saudis should be off-limits for anyone who is known to oppose the monarchy.I receive many death threats on a daily basis. Today, I reported a troll inciting people to break my ribs and twitter replied that there wasn't any inciting of violence! Even though the words of the troll were very blunt. I don't care. Threats to my family hurt me and makes me fear for their safety, may Allah preserve them and us all.