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Started by scarface, February 26, 2015, 08:28 PM
Quote from: humbert on November 22, 2022, 05:53 AMI'm looking at the map and unfortunately Сaнкт Петербург is very far north. To drive from there to Georgia or Khazakstan will take forever assuming it's even possible. Ukraine itself is closer.
Quote from: humbert on November 22, 2022, 05:53 AMDo you have access to news agencies in the UK. If so, check out https://metro.co.uk/2022/09/16/ukrainians-giving-russians-secret-surrender-cards-to-help-them-escape-17388513. This article is dated 06/09/2022. If you can't access it then try Google Images and type "Ukrainian surrender card". There are surrender instructions and even a phone number to call. Ukrainians are mad only at pro-Putin militants who pillage their country and harm their people. They have compassion for Russian soldiers who are against the war and want to give themselves up. They are seen as victims, not perpetrators. Naturally doing this will not be easy and is the very last resort. Try to hide or get out so you won't even need to try to call Zelensky.
Quote from: Daniil on November 22, 2022, 02:03 PMThank you very much. That may be useful thing. By the way, it's very interesting way how they "restrict" information now. Sites for news agencies from UK are totally not restricted if you get there directly. But in russian news we only hearing about how LGBTQ+ humiliating europeans and how many times Biden lost consciousness at last briefing. Looks like this is on what modern propaganda basing - common people can not imagine something which is not in news.
Quote from: humbert on November 23, 2022, 06:05 AMWere you able to see a picture of the surrender card on Google Images? If not, let me know and I will post a copy here on the forum so you can see what Putin doesn't want you to know.
Quote from: Daniil on November 24, 2022, 12:26 PMQuote from: humbert on November 23, 2022, 06:05 AMWere you able to see a picture of the surrender card on Google Images? If not, let me know and I will post a copy here on the forum so you can see what Putin doesn't want you to know.Yes, I found it, and already copied it. Thank you very much for the information, it could be useful.
Quote from: Shadow.97 on November 25, 2022, 01:31 PMPlease ensure you have a way to contact people without your own phone as well a little paper of most important friends/family numbers.Be aware that they might be searching your phone and papers, so if you have the 'give up' number they might get on bad terms with you. For your own safety, please practice the number in before hand so you do not need a paper or your own phone for it. If you plan on needing to use it.
Quote from: Shadow.97 on November 25, 2022, 01:31 PMThe last few days I've been texting with a penpal in China, and even if she has a lot of outside news from screenshots etc she does not have the full picture due to network/news blockages.As I understand it, she is under the influence that Ukraine attacked russia, provoking the war. She was very surprised when I told the story that last weekend I had ukrainians in Ireland come up to me and ask for help. This was as I was doing my laundry, because they hadnt found a place to live and wanted help searching. She didnt think that much people at all had fled Ukraine.
Quote from: Daniil on November 25, 2022, 02:58 PMThey just take all and any phones and papers from enlisted. So if you are enlisted you have no good way to contact anybody. Only way to get communication is if your relatives could give you a phone after you departured to the training camp (if the camp is near your city and guards are bribed). So best way to keep any info is your memory.
Quote from: Daniil on February 25, 2023, 10:25 AMAs far as I understand, they want to make from Russia something like Iran.
Quote from: Daniil on February 25, 2023, 10:25 AMNow I'm ashamed to be russian.
Quote from: Daniil on February 25, 2023, 10:25 AMI'm working hard on getting out of here.
Quote from: scarface on February 25, 2023, 11:55 AMThe Russian and Iranian regimes are getting closer in the war they are waging indeed, one against Ukraine, the other against its own people, where cruelty and violence are adorned with identity and religious alibis. But they also differ from each other since Iran is a theocracy and Russia seems to be something between a republic and a dictatorship (due to its propaganda notably).
Quote from: scarface on February 25, 2023, 11:55 AMI have several books about Russia and its history. you probably know some of them
Quote from: scarface on February 25, 2023, 11:55 AMMaybe the problem is not to get out but the right question is: is there a better place for you. ... If you can have a normal life in Russia, despite inflation and political risk (which is not unique to Russia) then I would advise you to stay where you are.