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[Ahmad]

As I recall, you said the router was your neighbor's and he was sharing the connection with you and a few other guys. Does that mean he gave you the login and password, assuming he knows enough not to use the router's default? Don't get me wrong, the problem isn't lack of trust but rather he may think you'll somehow accidentally misconfigure it. Or is it that he know you're knowledgeable enough about all this and accordingly gave you carte blanche to do all the configuration?

The router is ours [All of us share in everything that the network requires], and all of us know the login & password. We just have to put the router at one of us.

I understand perfectly µTorrent's situation regarding firewalls. I use MSE and Windows own firewall, and upon installation µTorrent always asks for permission to make the proper modifications. What I don't understand is this business of having to open a port on the router. Since I first ran into µTorrent a while back, I've had 3 ISP's, all using routers. Not once have I ever have to change anything in the router for µTorrent to work properly. However, since in all that time I was the only one on the LAN using it, I wonder is there a situation where if you have more than 1 person on the same LAN running µTorrent, if maybe this creates a situation where a different port must be assigned for each user.

Really I don't understand much about ports, but I managed to know how to open it on my router. Yet, with uTorrent, I found that it works great without opening ports, specially for Downloading. But regarding Uploading [Seeding] function, I think opening port makes uploading faster [with full uploading speed].

That's because I tried seeding in both cases... with port opened >>> Faster.
Regarding download >>> the same in both cases.

[humbert]

The router is ours [All of us share in everything that the network requires], and all of us know the login & password. We just have to put the router at one of us.

Hey night owl  -- almost midnight and your eyes are wide open -- as for the router, I was under the impression your neighbor signed up with the ISP under his name and then simply ran LAN cables from the router to all those on it. If it's as you say, then I assume all of you guys chip in equal amounts of money to pay for the service, and that way it won't be a major financial burden for anyone.

Really I don't understand much about ports, but I managed to know how to open it on my router. Yet, with uTorrent, I found that it works great without opening ports, specially for Downloading. But regarding Uploading [Seeding] function, I think opening port makes uploading faster [with full uploading speed].
That's because I tried seeding in both cases... with port opened >>> Faster.
Regarding download >>> the same in both cases.

When it comes to computer-related matters, I've gotten to a point where I believe just about anything. If someone told me he had a computer that could fly like a bird, I probably believe him as well - While certainly I'll never dispute your findings, what I wonder is why is this not documented anywhere? Anyway, what I'm assuming you did was to go into µTorrent's configuration and told it to use a fixed port number as opposed to one that changes. Then you turned around and configured your computer and the router to work under a static IP address instead of DHCP, which is usually the default. Then you went to port forwarding and opened the port in µTorrent's configuration and redirected it to your IP address. It goes without saying all the other guys on the system did the same thing. 

Is this more or less it?

[Ahmad]

@ humbert

- Yes, My neighbor signed up with ISP under his name [They need only one to sign up] , but everyone pays the same money like anyone else [Equally].

- Regarding uTorrent ;
First, I use a static IP, write a specific number for port in uTorrent's configuration, go to router's configuration and write the same number and redirect it to my IP address.
This is what I do to open port, but I want to clarify something..

# Nobody other than me does such things on my network.
# Another thing is that if anyone else wants to open port, he can write another number for port knowing that the router can handle up to 15 ports opened.
# Another thing [but I didn't try this] in my router configuration, a single port can be redirected to all IP addresses not only mine, so all users can share the same port by writing the same number in uTorrent's configuration.

[Maher]

Even though the topic is about free anti virus programs, but I had to say Avira Internet Security 2012 is the best program I've ever used.
It's name was Avira Premium Security Suite, now Avira Internet Security.

I've never bought it. And there is always a key that works from months without being black-listed!
I really recommend it!

[humbert]

Ahmad: Did you mention once that you had a Zytel router and bought another one, or did I misunderstand something? I'm curious because here, it is the ISP who gives you the router as part of the package. Naturally it belongs to them, so if you go with their competitor you either return it in good working order or pay for it. Even if you went out and bought one yourself (which they allow), it makes no sense because you won't be saving any money. How is it over there when it comes to getting a router?

Chief: Concerning Avira, how is it on system resources? Also, if it's that good, how much do they charge yearly for being able to download their virus definitions? It might even be worth while if the proggie is good enough and the price is reasonable, as opposed to this headache of chasing down keys.

[Ahmad]

@ humbert.

Sorry, I don't understand "Zytel".. Is it some brand or what?  If it's so, then our router is TPLink.
Anyway, When my neighbor signed up with ISP , we brought a new router on our own.
Sometimes, the ISP makes offers to present a router for free when signing up, and it'll be yours even if you left them after a few months, but this is from time to time.

[humbert]

Sorry, I don't understand "Zytel".. Is it some brand or what?  If it's so, then our router is TPLink.
Anyway, When my neighbor signed up with ISP , we brought a new router on our own.
Sometimes, the ISP makes offers to present a router for free when signing up, and it'll be yours even if you left them after a few months, but this is from time to time.

Zytel is a brand name. I could have sworn I heard you say it. Apparently I was mistaken.

So over there, if they don't offer a router, you have to run out and buy it? To put it another way, is this a situation where all they do is pretty much give you a wire which has a live internet connection, and you take it from there?

[Ahmad]

So over there, if they don't offer a router, you have to run out and buy it?

Yes, I must buy it if they don't offer ... Like we did.

To put it another way, is this a situation where all they do is pretty much give you a wire which has a live internet connection, and you take it from there?

They give me the connection through the telephone line wire..
They set up some splitter on the telephone wire to give 2 new wires.. one for the telephone and the other for the router. Then they enter some data on the router to adjust to receive their internet signals.
Of course, this is done by co-operating with telephone lines company.

This is the way that we all here are connected to the internet.. through telephone lines as they are the only media here to connect all of us. WiFi is not common, yet. Also, we don't have fiber.

[humbert]

They give me the connection through the telephone line wire..
They set up some splitter on the telephone wire to give 2 new wires.. one for the telephone and the other for the router. Then they enter some data on the router to adjust to receive their internet signals.
Of course, this is done by co-operating with telephone lines company.
This is the way that we all here are connected to the internet.. through telephone lines as they are the only media here to connect all of us. WiFi is not common, yet. Also, we don't have fiber.

Now I understand perfectly what is going on. I suppose my remaining question is if they give you a list of what routers are compatible with their system, or will just about anything do? I'm asking this because, with my ISP, customers also have the option of buying it, BUT it MUST be one on their list. This is even more true for me because of the speed I'm paying for. Mine has to support the DOCSIS 3.0 protocol, which permits the use of various channels coming down and just one going up. Without this setup, my speed is simply not possible.

As for fiber, I remember years ago as a very young man in Miami, they were tearing up the street to install the copper coaxial cables you have in order to put cable TV (no internet at that time). 20 years later they dug up the same streets to install fiber. I even asked the guys what would happen to the old cables. He said they would just leave them there, to be found by achaelolgists in the far distant future.   Naturally, both there and in SA, fiber is only to the company's pedestal in the street, from there to my house is a regular coax cable.

[Ahmad]

I suppose my remaining question is if they give you a list of what routers are compatible with their system, or will just about anything do?

Sorry, I didn't notice that.
Actually, I don't know if they require specific types or what because it's my neighbor who took care of such things.
Anyway, our router is the most common brand here, and we have only 2 ISP , so without asking anyone.. as long as this router is common, then it's valid.